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Hexlander
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:13:00 -
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Heya, kinda new to this forum :P
Just got an Armageddon:
High- 1 Heavy Nosferatu I (dont't have skillz for large energy turrets yet)
Med - 1 Large Shield booster I, Heavy Cap booster I, Stasus webifier I
Lows- 2x Nanofiber Is, 2x Power diags Is, 1 co-CPU I, 1 Warp stabilizer I, 1 Energized Reactive Membrain I, Medium Armor Repairer I.
Built this geddon for speed and durability. The speed i can live with (198 m/s), But haven't tested it in a fight. Just wondering if I need to change or add anything new.
Cheers
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Hexlander
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:13:00 -
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Heya, kinda new to this forum :P
Just got an Armageddon:
High- 1 Heavy Nosferatu I (dont't have skillz for large energy turrets yet)
Med - 1 Large Shield booster I, Heavy Cap booster I, Stasus webifier I
Lows- 2x Nanofiber Is, 2x Power diags Is, 1 co-CPU I, 1 Warp stabilizer I, 1 Energized Reactive Membrain I, Medium Armor Repairer I.
Built this geddon for speed and durability. The speed i can live with (198 m/s), But haven't tested it in a fight. Just wondering if I need to change or add anything new.
Cheers
--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--
Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely!(\_/) 00B
(0.0) License to kill
(> r) Banging the Universe 1 by 1
"OH... BUNNY!" |
ZelRox
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Hexlander
Heya, kinda new to this forum :P
Just got an Armageddon:
High- 1 Heavy Nosferatu I (dont't have skillz for large energy turrets yet)
Med - 1 Large Shield booster I, Heavy Cap booster I, Stasus webifier I
Lows- 2x Nanofiber Is, 2x Power diags Is, 1 co-CPU I, 1 Warp stabilizer I, 1 Energized Reactive Membrain I, Medium Armor Repairer I.
Built this geddon for speed and durability. The speed i can live with (198 m/s), But haven't tested it in a fight. Just wondering if I need to change or add anything new.
Cheers
Drop the med stuff, put some cap rechargers on.
60m\s extra in a fight wont help you much. Id rather go slower and be able to survive more. Use damage specific armor hardeners, and 2 armor repairers. 1 large 1 medium work fine on an arma. And if you really really want more speed, use overdrive.
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hexlander
Heya, kinda new to this forum :P
Just got an Armageddon:
High- 1 Heavy Nosferatu I (dont't have skillz for large energy turrets yet)
Med - 1 Large Shield booster I, Heavy Cap booster I, Stasus webifier I
Lows- 2x Nanofiber Is, 2x Power diags Is, 1 co-CPU I, 1 Warp stabilizer I, 1 Energized Reactive Membrain I, Medium Armor Repairer I.
Built this geddon for speed and durability. The speed i can live with (198 m/s), But haven't tested it in a fight. Just wondering if I need to change or add anything new.
Cheers
Drop the med stuff, put some cap rechargers on.
60m\s extra in a fight wont help you much. Id rather go slower and be able to survive more. Use damage specific armor hardeners, and 2 armor repairers. 1 large 1 medium work fine on an arma. And if you really really want more speed, use overdrive.
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Hexlander
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:28:00 -
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replace all 3 meds with cap rechargers?! The webifier help in close range to trap and kill, shield booster for shields... so replace the heavy cap booster with a cap recharger?
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Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely!(\_/) 00B
(0.0) License to kill
(> r) Banging the Universe 1 by 1
"OH... BUNNY!" |
Hexlander
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:28:00 -
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replace all 3 meds with cap rechargers?! The webifier help in close range to trap and kill, shield booster for shields... so replace the heavy cap booster with a cap recharger?
--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--
Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely!(\_/) 00B
(0.0) License to kill
(> r) Banging the Universe 1 by 1
"OH... BUNNY!" |
Vance Valorium
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hexlander
replace all 3 meds with cap rechargers?! The webifier help in close range to trap and kill, shield booster for shields... so replace the heavy cap booster with a cap recharger?
Yes, drop the shield booster. You're trying to shield-tank a ship that should really be armor-tanked.
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Vance Valorium
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Hexlander
replace all 3 meds with cap rechargers?! The webifier help in close range to trap and kill, shield booster for shields... so replace the heavy cap booster with a cap recharger?
Yes, drop the shield booster. You're trying to shield-tank a ship that should really be armor-tanked.
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Hexlander
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: Hexlander on 05/11/2004 11:51:35
ok, Cap/Shield boosters replaced by cap rechargers. Kinda dreading getting that 200 Cap booster bpo i got  and change the nanofibers to overs? The nanos help in ship agility.
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Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely!(\_/) 00B
(0.0) License to kill
(> r) Banging the Universe 1 by 1
"OH... BUNNY!" |
Hexlander
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:40:00 -
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Edited by: Hexlander on 05/11/2004 11:51:35
ok, Cap/Shield boosters replaced by cap rechargers. Kinda dreading getting that 200 Cap booster bpo i got and change the nanofibers to overs? The nanos help in ship agility.
--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--
Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely!(\_/) 00B
(0.0) License to kill
(> r) Banging the Universe 1 by 1
"OH... BUNNY!" |
ZelRox
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:56:00 -
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Agility in BS matters not, id rather slap a 1600mm plate instead of agility  Its not like you are going to orbit anything at high speeds ;)
Use drones \ smarbomb for small things you cant hit with your guns. Arma has a nice drone bay.
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ZelRox
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Posted - 2004.11.05 11:56:00 -
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Agility in BS matters not, id rather slap a 1600mm plate instead of agility Its not like you are going to orbit anything at high speeds ;)
Use drones \ smarbomb for small things you cant hit with your guns. Arma has a nice drone bay.
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Hexlander
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:02:00 -
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ya, big enough to slap 10 orges in, so need to armor it not shield it... so just change the Shield/Cap boosts to cap rechargers andarmor it... anything else?
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Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely!(\_/) 00B
(0.0) License to kill
(> r) Banging the Universe 1 by 1
"OH... BUNNY!" |
Hexlander
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:02:00 -
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ya, big enough to slap 10 orges in, so need to armor it not shield it... so just change the Shield/Cap boosts to cap rechargers andarmor it... anything else?
--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--
Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely!(\_/) 00B
(0.0) License to kill
(> r) Banging the Universe 1 by 1
"OH... BUNNY!" |
Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:24:00 -
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You know, it would be really useful if you said what you're going to be using this great ship for. Using a 0.0 hunting setup for lvl 3 missions is almost as bad as trying to shield tank.
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.11.05 12:24:00 -
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You know, it would be really useful if you said what you're going to be using this great ship for. Using a 0.0 hunting setup for lvl 3 missions is almost as bad as trying to shield tank.
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DarthVador
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Posted - 2004.11.05 13:31:00 -
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Could try the folloing for Armour tanking
Hi 8 Large Mega pulse
Med 3 Cap rech II
Low 2 Xlarge Armour repairers, 3 hardners, 3 Cap relays
Although you not have the skill yet.. You aim for these or less the ship is pretty useless i think.
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DarthVador
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Posted - 2004.11.05 13:31:00 -
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Could try the folloing for Armour tanking
Hi 8 Large Mega pulse
Med 3 Cap rech II
Low 2 Xlarge Armour repairers, 3 hardners, 3 Cap relays
Although you not have the skill yet.. You aim for these or less the ship is pretty useless i think.
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Cuebick
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Posted - 2004.11.05 13:37:00 -
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Shield tanking is best on Caldari ships :) All other you armor tank. Here's a setup I used on my Arma;
 Hi Slots: 7Mega Pulse Lasers 1Heavy Nosferatu
Mid Slots: 3 Cap Rechargers (Best you can afford/get)
Lo Slots: 4 Capacitor Power Relay 2 Armor Hardeners 1 Medium Armor repairer II and one named Large Armor repairer.
If you can't fit this you must train Engineering lvl5 and Electronics lvl5 Gunnery lvl5 any energy systems operation lvl5 =)
It works good, but not infinite unless you use Cap rechargers 2's 
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Cuebick
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Posted - 2004.11.05 13:37:00 -
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Shield tanking is best on Caldari ships :) All other you armor tank. Here's a setup I used on my Arma;
Hi Slots: 7Mega Pulse Lasers 1Heavy Nosferatu
Mid Slots: 3 Cap Rechargers (Best you can afford/get)
Lo Slots: 4 Capacitor Power Relay 2 Armor Hardeners 1 Medium Armor repairer II and one named Large Armor repairer.
If you can't fit this you must train Engineering lvl5 and Electronics lvl5 Gunnery lvl5 any energy systems operation lvl5 =)
It works good, but not infinite unless you use Cap rechargers 2's
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.11.05 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: DarthVador
Could try the folloing for Armour tanking
Hi 8 Large Mega pulse
Med 3 Cap rech II
Low 2 Xlarge Armour repairers, 3 hardners, 3 Cap relays
Although you not have the skill yet.. You aim for these or less the ship is pretty useless i think.
could do cept the geddon only has 7 turret slots and no where near enuf grid to fit 7xmegapulse with 2 large (xlarge repers? omgwtfbbq?) repers.
If u dont have large energy turret skill yet im guessing u dont have engineering 5 and electronics 5 either? if u havent then its gonna be a problem fitting a geddon out. My geddon setup for 0.0 hunting is:
6xnamed megapulse
1xnamed dual hvy pulse
1xYF-12a Thermal Smartbomb#
2xcap rechargers
1xwebber
1xlarge reper (named if u can get it)
1xmedium tech2 reper
2xhardners
3xCap power relays
1xtech2 heatsink
Tanks forever and does good dmg, specially if u get into the 25km range and can use multifrequency crystals. Webber is there for intys cos some of them decide they dont wanna orbit in smart bomb range so drones are my only option. Nice mixture of medium and hvys soon deals with them thou.
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.11.05 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: DarthVador
Could try the folloing for Armour tanking
Hi 8 Large Mega pulse
Med 3 Cap rech II
Low 2 Xlarge Armour repairers, 3 hardners, 3 Cap relays
Although you not have the skill yet.. You aim for these or less the ship is pretty useless i think.
could do cept the geddon only has 7 turret slots and no where near enuf grid to fit 7xmegapulse with 2 large (xlarge repers? omgwtfbbq?) repers.
If u dont have large energy turret skill yet im guessing u dont have engineering 5 and electronics 5 either? if u havent then its gonna be a problem fitting a geddon out. My geddon setup for 0.0 hunting is:
6xnamed megapulse
1xnamed dual hvy pulse
1xYF-12a Thermal Smartbomb#
2xcap rechargers
1xwebber
1xlarge reper (named if u can get it)
1xmedium tech2 reper
2xhardners
3xCap power relays
1xtech2 heatsink
Tanks forever and does good dmg, specially if u get into the 25km range and can use multifrequency crystals. Webber is there for intys cos some of them decide they dont wanna orbit in smart bomb range so drones are my only option. Nice mixture of medium and hvys soon deals with them thou.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2004.11.05 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: mahhy on 05/11/2004 13:46:45
Originally by: Hexlander
Heya, kinda new to this forum :P
Just got an Armageddon:
High- 1 Heavy Nosferatu I (dont't have skillz for large energy turrets yet)
Med - 1 Large Shield booster I, Heavy Cap booster I, Stasus webifier I
Lows- 2x Nanofiber Is, 2x Power diags Is, 1 co-CPU I, 1 Warp stabilizer I, 1 Energized Reactive Membrain I, Medium Armor Repairer I.
Built this geddon for speed and durability. The speed i can live with (198 m/s), But haven't tested it in a fight. Just wondering if I need to change or add anything new.
Cheers
Are you looking for PvP or PvE?
Basically use your mids for cap recharge in PvE and depend on drones and smartbombs to kill NPC inty's. Fit a named Large Armor Rep and a Med T2 Armor rep, plus at least 2 hardners in the lows (active hardners, not membranes), fill the rest with cap relays. Highs load out with probably Mega Pulse (and a smartbomb) depending on your style I suppose.
PvP can be lots different. Mega Pulse and all T2 Heatsinks for the now-classic Gank'A'Geddon, or go for tanking with 2x large reps (or the large T1 and med T2 combo) 3 hardners, etc, etc. Warp core stab if you're not willing to risk a BS without them. You may want to consider warp scramblers / webbers in PvP, maybe not. Personally I wouldn't bother with Tachyons on an Arma, although maybe Mega Beams might be useful for extra range.
Always carry lots of drones and train to be able to use them effectively. The Arma carries 10 heavies, thats a decent extra amount of firepower.
Never mix shield boosting/shield tanking with armor rep/armor tanking. You'll only end up doing them both badly. Pick one and do it well. On the Arma that means armor tanking cause of its 8 low slots and decent armor.
Edit: oh and get your Amarr BS skill up to level 4 and Large Energy skill to level 4 as well. The ship bonus and the turret bonuses are nice.
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mahhy
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Posted - 2004.11.05 13:43:00 -
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Edited by: mahhy on 05/11/2004 13:46:45
Originally by: Hexlander
Heya, kinda new to this forum :P
Just got an Armageddon:
High- 1 Heavy Nosferatu I (dont't have skillz for large energy turrets yet)
Med - 1 Large Shield booster I, Heavy Cap booster I, Stasus webifier I
Lows- 2x Nanofiber Is, 2x Power diags Is, 1 co-CPU I, 1 Warp stabilizer I, 1 Energized Reactive Membrain I, Medium Armor Repairer I.
Built this geddon for speed and durability. The speed i can live with (198 m/s), But haven't tested it in a fight. Just wondering if I need to change or add anything new.
Cheers
Are you looking for PvP or PvE?
Basically use your mids for cap recharge in PvE and depend on drones and smartbombs to kill NPC inty's. Fit a named Large Armor Rep and a Med T2 Armor rep, plus at least 2 hardners in the lows (active hardners, not membranes), fill the rest with cap relays. Highs load out with probably Mega Pulse (and a smartbomb) depending on your style I suppose.
PvP can be lots different. Mega Pulse and all T2 Heatsinks for the now-classic Gank'A'Geddon, or go for tanking with 2x large reps (or the large T1 and med T2 combo) 3 hardners, etc, etc. Warp core stab if you're not willing to risk a BS without them. You may want to consider warp scramblers / webbers in PvP, maybe not. Personally I wouldn't bother with Tachyons on an Arma, although maybe Mega Beams might be useful for extra range.
Always carry lots of drones and train to be able to use them effectively. The Arma carries 10 heavies, thats a decent extra amount of firepower.
Never mix shield boosting/shield tanking with armor rep/armor tanking. You'll only end up doing them both badly. Pick one and do it well. On the Arma that means armor tanking cause of its 8 low slots and decent armor.
Edit: oh and get your Amarr BS skill up to level 4 and Large Energy skill to level 4 as well. The ship bonus and the turret bonuses are nice.
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.11.05 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: DarthVador
Could try the folloing for Armour tanking
Hi 8 Large Mega pulse
Med 3 Cap rech II
Low 2 Xlarge Armour repairers, 3 hardners, 3 Cap relays
Although you not have the skill yet.. You aim for these or less the ship is pretty useless i think.
/me would love to know what skills would allow this setup.
High Slot Modification lvl 5 ?
Module Invention lvl 5 ?
Uber Ultra Mega Advanced Engineering lvl 5 ?
I love it when people write absolute ****
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Toran Mehtar
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Posted - 2004.11.05 13:56:00 -
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Originally by: DarthVador
Could try the folloing for Armour tanking
Hi 8 Large Mega pulse
Med 3 Cap rech II
Low 2 Xlarge Armour repairers, 3 hardners, 3 Cap relays
Although you not have the skill yet.. You aim for these or less the ship is pretty useless i think.
/me would love to know what skills would allow this setup.
High Slot Modification lvl 5 ?
Module Invention lvl 5 ?
Uber Ultra Mega Advanced Engineering lvl 5 ?
I love it when people write absolute ****
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KompleX
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Posted - 2004.11.05 14:08:00 -
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could do cept the geddon only has 7 turret slots and no where near enuf grid to fit 7xmegapulse with 2 large (xlarge repers? omgwtfbbq?) repers.
If u dont have large energy turret skill yet im guessing u dont have engineering 5 and electronics 5 either? if u havent then its gonna be a problem fitting a geddon out. My geddon setup for 0.0 hunting is:
6xnamed megapulse
1xnamed dual hvy pulse
1xYF-12a Thermal Smartbomb#
2xcap rechargers
1xwebber
1xlarge reper (named if u can get it)
1xmedium tech2 reper
2xhardners
3xCap power relays
1xtech2 heatsink
Tanks forever and does good dmg, specially if u get into the 25km range and can use multifrequency crystals. Webber is there for intys cos some of them decide they dont wanna orbit in smart bomb range so drones are my only option. Nice mixture of medium and hvys soon deals with them thou.
Well, I use 7 Mega Pulses and 2 Large Repairers...So don't come here telling that won't fit!
HIGH:
7x Mega Pulses
MED:
3x Cap Recharger (named or TechII)
LOW:
2x Large Armor repairers
3x Hardeners (Got 2 thermal and 1 EM for Sansah or Blood's)
1x TechII Power Diagnostic
2x Cap Relay
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KompleX
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Posted - 2004.11.05 14:08:00 -
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could do cept the geddon only has 7 turret slots and no where near enuf grid to fit 7xmegapulse with 2 large (xlarge repers? omgwtfbbq?) repers.
If u dont have large energy turret skill yet im guessing u dont have engineering 5 and electronics 5 either? if u havent then its gonna be a problem fitting a geddon out. My geddon setup for 0.0 hunting is:
6xnamed megapulse
1xnamed dual hvy pulse
1xYF-12a Thermal Smartbomb#
2xcap rechargers
1xwebber
1xlarge reper (named if u can get it)
1xmedium tech2 reper
2xhardners
3xCap power relays
1xtech2 heatsink
Tanks forever and does good dmg, specially if u get into the 25km range and can use multifrequency crystals. Webber is there for intys cos some of them decide they dont wanna orbit in smart bomb range so drones are my only option. Nice mixture of medium and hvys soon deals with them thou.
Well, I use 7 Mega Pulses and 2 Large Repairers...So don't come here telling that won't fit!
HIGH:
7x Mega Pulses
MED:
3x Cap Recharger (named or TechII)
LOW:
2x Large Armor repairers
3x Hardeners (Got 2 thermal and 1 EM for Sansah or Blood's)
1x TechII Power Diagnostic
2x Cap Relay
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.11.05 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Eyeshadow on 05/11/2004 15:20:51
7xmegapulse and 2xlarge repers wont fit on a geddon
if u wanna use a PDU or RCU as in ur setup then yes of course it does as does 7xtachs with a shed load of RCU/PDU but i dont think thats worth suggesting do you?
try reading the post i was quoting b4 u try and shoot me down. If ur gonna use PDU/RCU/CPU in a setup then just about anything is possible. I posted a setup that IS possible without any grid/CPU enhancing mods that is all
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Eyeshadow
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Posted - 2004.11.05 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Eyeshadow on 05/11/2004 15:20:51
7xmegapulse and 2xlarge repers wont fit on a geddon
if u wanna use a PDU or RCU as in ur setup then yes of course it does as does 7xtachs with a shed load of RCU/PDU but i dont think thats worth suggesting do you?
try reading the post i was quoting b4 u try and shoot me down. If ur gonna use PDU/RCU/CPU in a setup then just about anything is possible. I posted a setup that IS possible without any grid/CPU enhancing mods that is all
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