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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.13 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Isil Rahsen on 13/11/2009 16:55:46
Another stealth nerf. So ruining the Moros wasn't good enough but you had to nerf the **** out of the Nag too? http://i36.tinypic.com/2ymjga9.jpg
So the (not) so great CCP Nozh, what is the reason behind this?
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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.13 16:54:00 -
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 Originally by: Mashashige
I have no experience with the nag - but how (other than capital missiles being pretty bad as mentioned by someone on the "dont nerf the pheonix weapon systems" thread) is the nag being nerfed? I thought it had 5% ROF to guns + 5% ROF to missiles since it was made?
It's current bonuses are 7.5% Damage on Proj and 7.5% Rof on Projectiles. Check TQ.
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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.13 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Isil Rahsen on 13/11/2009 17:03:08
As the posters above have pointed out the current changes to XL Projectiles are a buff to ammo while nerfing the tracking of both Autos and Artys. They've also nerfed the base optimal of the 3500mm Quad Arties from 80km down to 72km, while the XL Autos gain a 20km optimal and 19km falloff. These changes in no way make up for the loss of the ROF bonus on the guns. I could almost stomach the nerf to outright gun damage since the ammo is boosted but this is ridiculous. Nag will be the worst dread yet again.
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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.13 20:25:00 -
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We probably need to threadnought before we'll see any replies from CCP.
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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.14 02:01:00 -
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Here's a novel thought. How about they leave it the **** alone since it was just boosted to being useful this year for christs sake.
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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.14 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Faol'gus
They are boosting projectiles. The increase in performance for capital projectile guns requires a comparable nerf in ship bonuses to compensate.
The removal of the ROF bonus in no way is comparable to the damage mod buff even taking the new ammo damage into account. It's a considerable nerf to damage from the guns and as evidenced by the post above Citadel Torps are going to be pretty useless. Split weapons systems are bad mmmkay? We just went through this bull**** to get the Nag buffed to being useful. A more acceptable nerf would be 5% Damage and 5% ROF on projectiles in light of the current changes, not this split weapon bull**** yet again.
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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.16 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: Seriously Bored
Someone has made a massive, massive mistake. Look at the numbers, and if 7.5% ROF/Damage is too much, make it 7.5% Damage/5% ROF. If the changes are so effing ridiculous at the XL level that even that is too much, make it 5% Damage/5% ROF.
Do not make the Nag a split system ship again.
^This oh ****ing god this. 
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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.18 20:01:00 -
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Back to the top.
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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.19 22:28:00 -
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Good luck getting anything other than "Working as intended.".
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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.20 06:35:00 -
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Originally by: Seriously Bored
Edited by: Seriously Bored on 20/11/2009 03:34:14
Originally by: Walker Bulldog
This is simply insulting. A new devblog entry is out concerning capitals, and the massive Naglfar nerf isn't mentioned at all - not even in passing. It's like the ship already doesn't exist.
See the image below your post. That's exactly what CCP Nozh said about it.
ED: Any optimism I had was lost once the line "Capital Torps will need Target Painters for full effectiveness" was uttered.
Sweet ****ing jesus. I'm so glad that we clearly have an idiot who doesn't even understand how a simple module works rebalancing our ships into useless piles of ****. If ever there was a facepalm moment this is it.
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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.20 23:08:00 -
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I'm simply loving how this thread and every question being posted about the Nag in the devblog feedback thread is conveniently ignored en masse by CCP. Sure sign that these ****ty changes are going live methinks. Nag and Phoenix worst dreads 4 life.
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Isil Rahsen
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Posted - 2009.11.21 00:48:00 -
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Just copying this here incase anyone missed it in the devblog thread.
Originally by: Isil Rahsen
Edited by: Isil Rahsen on 21/11/2009 00:43:44
Originally by: Mioelnir
Originally by: CCP Hammer
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We could have tried to put out ôsomethingö just because we have been talking about it, but then we would be in a situation where players are getting into ships that might very well change again in a coming patch.
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That's a funny thing to say when there are Naglfar pilots in the audience. Exactly how many patches now was the Naglfar worthwhile before you smacked it down again and brought back the worst possible bonus type eve has to offer (the split weapon bonus)?
Hahaha nice catch. I completely overlooked that comment. Lets see how long before both these posts get deleted.
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