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Acix
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Posted - 2003.06.25 23:06:00 -
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Ok you elitist group TTI. Just like all elitist groups you say one thing and then do another. The hero in all of you is really a scared little worm. I am really glad that I didn't get accepted into your corp. I for one would not have stood by and allowed a NAP with m0o. You really live in a fantasy world if you think that all the little corps will band together to take out m0o without the support of the larger corps. This is something that has been played out in history time and time again. You at TTI think that you know better and your Socialist Ideals are the best way to do things. TTI says they will only take the best and brightest. Where are your history majors? Or have you all lost sight of the history classes you had since you were 6 years old. The rest of the smaller corps understand that they will be at a disadvantage going into a full scale war with a larger formidable force. Without the help of the larger corps this will never take place. Some people in EVE may not be able to help in the form of fighting but could donate isk for clone replacement and ship replacement. For TTI to sit by and watch others be killed while they have free travel is disgusting. I think that I just spotted their new product line: "TTI Blinders", get them and you too will not have to see what m0o is doing to others. You at TTI have now seen the backlash that you can create. Where are your business majors? Do you think that they should have told you that a corp's reputation can alter business profits. Just look to the real world Martha Stewart for your answer. Where did her stock go?
Anyway this all started with someone not agreeing with a NAP between m0o and TTI. If TTI wants to be the spineless worm in this, then so be it. But TTI don't turn a blind eye and say it was just good for business.............
Also understand that your unescorted Indy's may not be so safe just because you have a NAP with m0o. There are a lot of other pirate groups that will be nipping your heals now that everyone knows you go unescorted through m0o areas.
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Acix
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Posted - 2003.06.26 18:25:00 -
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For those that posted and did not understand what I was trying to state, let me make it a little more basic. I did not say that TTI had to get involved, what I was trying to get accross was that if a larger corp (TTI or whomever) does not take a stand and gather the press about that stand, the smaller corps will not join together to fight m0o. The samller corps could do that but without the beacon of a larger corp leading the cause it most likely will not happen any time soon. The history leason for all of you that don't think it means anything is very important. This is how we base how groups will interact with each other, not just here but in real life also. So take the leason from history and learn from it. THe more you understand it the better your understanding of this game will be. As for TTI they can do whatever they want. But they must understand that their call to arms (in the future they will sooner or later) may not be met by many that would have earlier. Your diplomatic wing or your corp needs to review what history teaches. React too fast and you may not get the support you need. React too slow and the same will happen. TTI really could not take m0o out on their own right now anyway (no matter what boastful comments are made). I think that we can just put TTI in the wanna-be uber corp section of the game. They just want bragging rights. Do you really think that in history, if the Azores tried to band a coalition against the Germans anything would have really happened? It took the major powers joining together to garner all the smaller countries together. If you want to be a big corp you really need to understand that what you say and do is going to be put under a microscope. You may say that its unfair (wimper) and you shouldn't have too, its going to happen and you really need to understand that. A lot of smaller corps look to the larger ones (even if they don't realize it) for how things should be done. Its human nature to do so. So if you don't want to be involved in the multi player part of EVE then have CCP set-up a separate server for you to just run your corp away from the rest of us. The US used to be like that. Isolationist, you want people to buy your stuff but you want that to be the end of you involvement. Put that on your web page too. I'm not crying about you not taking the stand I just think that its funny that you don't understand the way that groups interact well enough to say that I am right. I don't even have any contact with your corp or m0o. I have never bought anything from one of your traders or even my ships (I didn't see the corp symbol TTI on any of the people's info that I purchased my ships from). I will leave you with this TTI; know that you are always going to be high profile in everything you do, and don't whine when you are the topic of a critical discusion. Damned if you and Dammed if you don't.................
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Acix
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Posted - 2003.06.27 01:13:00 -
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I guess you never read The Tick #1. Read it then laugh.........
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Acix
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Posted - 2003.06.27 20:15:00 -
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Prophex, regarding "atlas shrugged". I'm sorry but if your own convictions are not enough and you have to read a book like that to find your way in life you need some self help books too. The book is at its core totally contradictory to itself. You can't just pick and choose philosophy parts and combine them all together. The thing you loose is common sense when you do that. The technical aspects of piece working all of it together makes it more complex then anything else that exists. You start laying down fundamental rules that cannot contradict each other. As time goes on the additions to these guidelines end up reading like a lawyers journal. The complexity it forms in the end bypasses the whole reason it started to begin with. Then add in a little of different peoples understanding and biases and you end with a mound of nothing. The mound is where I see TTI hiding right now. The most primitive solution is more than likely the best in any given situation. Its just finding it that is hard. The common sense look at it would be the pros and con's and what weight they each have. The least bad effects from a decision is not always going to be your path of least resistance. You did right by trying to tell people that you are going to follow guidelines. You just chose the wrong book to follow. If you have ten people read that book you will have ten different takes on the reasoning in it. The author took the easy way of explaining by using a story format. But this in itself leaves it open ended and open to interpretation. Just like another popular book "the bible", and you see what horrors and atrocities have been done in the name of that book. What I really want you to know is that you should have enough confidence in yourself and you corp. mates to make good decisions and not have to do it in the name of some random book. A society that has based its core off of a book has never reached very far in the evolution of man. Some have gone pretty far, but still died out. The only reason that we are at the stage that we are right now is the diversity of independent thinking. Not one book can teach you this. Not even "atlas shrugged"..............................
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Acix
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Posted - 2003.06.27 21:25:00 -
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"""What has TTI pretended to be that we are not? Show me where TTI said "we will hunt all the galaxy's pirates for you". We never, ever promised to be the galaxy's police. TTI has not misled you. You have misled yourself.""""
Hiro, other than the few this wasn't about yelling at TTI. You can do as you please, just trying to let you know the consequenses for turning a blind eye.
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Acix
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2003.06.27 21:25:00 -
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"""What has TTI pretended to be that we are not? Show me where TTI said "we will hunt all the galaxy's pirates for you". We never, ever promised to be the galaxy's police. TTI has not misled you. You have misled yourself.""""
Hiro, other than the few this wasn't about yelling at TTI. You can do as you please, just trying to let you know the consequenses for turning a blind eye.
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Acix
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Posted - 2003.06.27 23:10:00 -
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I've been slowly trying to explain this to you TTI guys. One more time, I do not want you to be the police force for the universe. Your philosophy issues would get in your way too much. You need to understand your position in the game. You are one of the larger corps, correct? You will be under the microscope regardless of if you want to be or not. When you make a decision (like the NAP with m0o) you will be scrutinized at a certain level for it. You have no choice in this matter. You also need to understand that what you do and say carries a lot of weight with the other corps. If you decided to have a zero tolerance policy for pirates, you would have gathered a lot of support and gained a vast group of allies to help combat the problem. You chose not to do this, fine stand by your decision. But don't attack me for saying it was the wrong thing to do. I am but just an indy pilot. But I do know where I would fit into a war situation. Supply lines are one of the biggest needs of a military force. This has been proven all through history (once again pointing towards history as a teacher). The things I stated about you ideals was not meant to attack them but to offer another view point for you to take into consideration. I do and will in the future hold the right of free speach and I will state my opinion and let you know my feelings about what and how your decisions affect me. M0o just moved into my area as of last night. I am stuck where I am for the time being. I have no way to combat this problem myself. I still do not ask for your help. I would however like to start a coalition against pirates in general. If you stood by this it would add a huge vioce to the zero tolerance policy a coalition of this type would have. Later tonight I will lay out my plans on the forum in a straight forward well detailed and highly organized fashion. Seeing as how I cannot even leave my system as of now, I am wanting to do something to pass the time. Then when these plans are laid out on the table you can choose to be a part of them or not. Look for the post later tonight and you may join the debate if you so choose to (or the following day as I am in the pacific time zone and the posting will be later tonight my time).
It is about time for a call to arms to take the pirates down a few notches. If we leave them alone now they will only become a larger force. A few of them have battleships now, do we wait until all of them have battleships and we cannot even attempt a preemptive strike. We will only be hurting ourselves if we do not take this action.
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Acix
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2003.06.27 23:10:00 -
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I've been slowly trying to explain this to you TTI guys. One more time, I do not want you to be the police force for the universe. Your philosophy issues would get in your way too much. You need to understand your position in the game. You are one of the larger corps, correct? You will be under the microscope regardless of if you want to be or not. When you make a decision (like the NAP with m0o) you will be scrutinized at a certain level for it. You have no choice in this matter. You also need to understand that what you do and say carries a lot of weight with the other corps. If you decided to have a zero tolerance policy for pirates, you would have gathered a lot of support and gained a vast group of allies to help combat the problem. You chose not to do this, fine stand by your decision. But don't attack me for saying it was the wrong thing to do. I am but just an indy pilot. But I do know where I would fit into a war situation. Supply lines are one of the biggest needs of a military force. This has been proven all through history (once again pointing towards history as a teacher). The things I stated about you ideals was not meant to attack them but to offer another view point for you to take into consideration. I do and will in the future hold the right of free speach and I will state my opinion and let you know my feelings about what and how your decisions affect me. M0o just moved into my area as of last night. I am stuck where I am for the time being. I have no way to combat this problem myself. I still do not ask for your help. I would however like to start a coalition against pirates in general. If you stood by this it would add a huge vioce to the zero tolerance policy a coalition of this type would have. Later tonight I will lay out my plans on the forum in a straight forward well detailed and highly organized fashion. Seeing as how I cannot even leave my system as of now, I am wanting to do something to pass the time. Then when these plans are laid out on the table you can choose to be a part of them or not. Look for the post later tonight and you may join the debate if you so choose to (or the following day as I am in the pacific time zone and the posting will be later tonight my time).
It is about time for a call to arms to take the pirates down a few notches. If we leave them alone now they will only become a larger force. A few of them have battleships now, do we wait until all of them have battleships and we cannot even attempt a preemptive strike. We will only be hurting ourselves if we do not take this action.
SNIGG is now officially open for business. We are a merc corp looking for contracts.
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Acix
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Posted - 2003.06.27 23:50:00 -
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your points are the same that my roomates and I banged our heads against for a couple of days before a stratagy emerged. I will lay this out later. The great thing about it is that any pirate can read about it. But won't know they are a part of it, until they are targeted by way too many people to even think about doing anything but being a floating frozen corpse. How many clones do you think they can buy before they run out of money to cover their huge battleship skill sets?
More on this later..................
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Acix
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2003.06.27 23:50:00 -
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your points are the same that my roomates and I banged our heads against for a couple of days before a stratagy emerged. I will lay this out later. The great thing about it is that any pirate can read about it. But won't know they are a part of it, until they are targeted by way too many people to even think about doing anything but being a floating frozen corpse. How many clones do you think they can buy before they run out of money to cover their huge battleship skill sets?
More on this later..................
SNIGG is now officially open for business. We are a merc corp looking for contracts.
For more info click below
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=68313 |
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