1.1 bringing the space barbie back when you have more than enough client faults and bugs to go around. Tuesday the 19'th is also the day Founder packs go on sale.

Nobody ever said that we got the UI because it stop bots. We got the UI because it needed an update, and honestly the new UI is great. I've managed to make it work pretty much like the old one and still maintain the nice bells and whistles of the new one.

If you try merging Items and Ships with Station Services in the options you'll see that.

CCP stopped the small UI updates in favour of bundling them together in this patch.

Well, it is still a load of crap, missing so much of the functionality of the old UI.

They have been told so many times what needs to be done to fix it, but they completely refuse to listen.

What a way to run a Company.

SO basically you're being an advocate for bots while having a suspicious name.

Nobody ever said that we got the UI because it stop bots. We got the UI because it needed an update, and honestly the new UI is great. I've managed to make it work pretty much like the old one and still maintain the nice bells and whistles of the new one.

If you try merging Items and Ships with Station Services in the options you'll see that.

great get the bots out

You are a 6 month noob who hardly knew the old UI your opinion on the matter means nothing. Come back after playing for 6 years.

While in space, is the inventory button supposed to do any thing different then the cargohold button?

if the secondary windows are only accessible through shift clicking what is the point of having them remember their settings if the only way to access them after closing is through another window or tree?

IE, in space, i have my freighter,

to open the cargo hold, i can either click the neocom button, or click the cargo button next to my capacitor, both those buttons operate on the same window.

If i shift click on my ship in the tree menu of that window i can separate out another cargo hold window. however, if i close that window, there is no way to get back to it except through shift clicking the tree again. both the neocom button and the cargohold button on the left side of the capacitor operate on the main window. I would prefer if those two buttons, the cargo and the inventory worked on separate windows. is that a feature request or bug?

Clicking on a towers stront bay and fuel bay do not bring up their open widows respectively, but open them in the main window.
ex-> I have shift clicked both the stront and the fuel bays into separate windows, focus has been brought to any other window. clicking on the fuel bay button in the selected item window, brings the fuel bay into the main window, and does not bring the separated fuel bay window into focus. the same goes with the stron bay window/button

even if i have closed the main window and am left with only the separated out secondary windows of cargo/stront/ tower fuel clicking on any of the three respective buttons opens a new window and does not bring any of the secondary windows into focus. Is this a bug or feature?

The active ship now has a green background both in the tree view and window view

Apologies for ruining your bittervet pity party but just because you cant adapt to a new system doesnt mean everybody cant. And before you start throwing 'you're just a CCP fanboi' around I acknowledge there are still issues with the new UI but oh look, it seems that CCp have demonstrated theyre perfectly willing to keep at it as long as it takes to make all of it work.

Except a lot of it still doesn't work, or at least not to expectations of some of the player base. My expectations are that it will cover the functionality and ease of use as the last one. the way windows work now, and the way that buttons interact with widows, and the way that the first iteration came onto tranquility were not polished to useability ingame.

Already they have said that they are wanting to move away from their heavy cycle of fixing the UI to be Game useable. Many of the patch things that you see were first brought up while this was on the test server. So what you see now, all this UI fixing, is back-peddling from their previous stand point of "you are simply too stupid to use this" when the issues were originally brought up. Back on Sisi.

This is one of the bigger problems with a lot of the people that wonder why there is such bitter vet syndrome going on, and why others posts like yours get flames. The people who tested this on Sisi, asked about these same issues, were told they are .... , and everyone else would love them, then pushed it onto tranquility, where people simply did not love it, are now bittervet-ing all over the place.
and then you come out of the woodwork to prop-up a sorta finished product because you weren't there for the betas- beta.

It is interesting to me all the people that do come out and say they like this new UI, always have another issue to add to the list of UI tweaks. and have a really hard time defining what exactly they do like about it (the new UI). If you have something then please by all means explain it. I already know the list of things i dont like about it.

and thats not even sarcastic or anything, i really am curious about it.

Hakaru Ishiwara ->
I was asking if it was a bug or a feature, or if i was not using it in its intended function. I have no idea which parts of useability CCP devs have decided are bugs or features. And at this point im not really sure they do either. A lot of it seems to be seat of the pants flying.

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I would not flame anyone in the forums it's not my style. However I would like to ask Darek Castigatus how do you feel about having to adapt when it, in my opinion, was not needed or required. Also does adapting mean looking for ways to resolve problems with the current UI which is at best a beta. Would you have been content with the previous system or did you post and pertition CCP in the forums for a much improved UI?

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I would not flame anyone in the forums it's not my style. However I would like to ask Darek Castigatus how do you feel about having to adapt when it, in my opinion, was not needed or required. Also does adapting mean looking for ways to resolve problems with the current UI which is at best a beta. Would you have been content with the previous system or did you post and pertition CCP in the forums for a much improved UI?

Removed the deprecated GÇ£Open CargoholdGÇ¥ option from the radial menu of your own ship.

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Hakaru Ishiwara ->
I was asking if it was a bug or a feature, or if i was not using it in its intended function. I have no idea which parts of useability CCP devs have decided are bugs or features. And at this point im not really sure they do either. A lot of it seems to be seat of the pants flying.

That's fine if you want to get rid of bots. Right now though, as an anti-bot measure

So, going by the delay notice ingame you prepared a patch, you found an issue with it, and you pulled the patch to fix it first?

Who are you and what have you done with CCP?

So the wardec changes will go on despite the rather... vocal criticism?

The way to fix most of the issues is REALLY REALLY simple:


1. Bring back the buttons for Ships, Items, Corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position.

2. Bring back the right click options on ships for opening drone bay, cargo bay, ore hold, ship maintenance bay, fuel bay, corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. It is REALLY not a bad thing to have right click options that improve functionality. Remove the redundant ones, like undock etc.

3. When in space, make the cargo icon open the cargo bay only (Cargo icon = cargo bay << simple). Make this open in a separate window with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. If we want the inventory, we can use the icon in the Neocom, thatGÇÖs what it is for (Inventory icon = inventory << again simple)

4. Give the option to hide the ISK value. It takes up space and is a gimmick that is only used rarely.

5. Reduce the size of the volume bar in containers back to what it used to be, it is too big and takes up space.


These are very simple fixes, which would go a long way to reducing the disgust and contempt people have for CCP at the moment, I cannot believe that they would be difficult to implement. So, please put your egoGÇÖs away and just do it.



Who the hell came up with this primary and secondary window idea ? For the love of God please wise up and just do what is necessary to make this somewhere near useable and not come up with these half assed ideas.

Next time please take the two minutes that it takes to inform yourself on this GÇ£issueGÇ¥. What they will introduce with this patch are clothes which theyGÇÖve had already designed in 2011 so there is absolutely no developer time that gets GÇ£wastedGÇ¥ as a result of this change. They only waited so long to release them because crybabies like you would have screamed bloody murder had they introduced them back then. Apparently the wait was futile though because it seems like there are still some persistent specimen of your unpleasant kind left.