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arria Auscent
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:31:00 -
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they forget to deploy patch today? |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
916
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:35:00 -
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arria Auscent wrote:they forget to deploy patch today?
No, they just forgot to update the forums. Here's the news post announcing the delay:
EVE Online: Inferno 1.1 release delayed reported by CCP Navigator | 2012-06-18T02:40:00Z
Following testing work over the past weekend for EVE Online: Inferno 1.1, we became aware of issues which would have resulted in a less than optimal game experience for our players. These issues are mostly fallout from code cleanup work we've been working on for the past weeks and caused specific models not to render. We apologize for the lateness of this discovery, this is the unfortunate, but inevitable, cost of continuous development and our constant commitment to improving EVE.
As a result our teams will continue working to resolve these issues so that we can bring you all the features, fixes and changes listed in our patch notes at the earliest possible opportunity. Here's your sign... |

Lumi Leena
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:36:00 -
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May O'Neez wrote: Could you confirm it is the hold-click and NOT the one displayed on the hud, please ?
Yeah, it's the radial menu. The icon has even been grayed out for a while now and picking it does nothing; they're just going to remove the non-working icon from there. |

Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
136
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Posted - 2012.06.19 11:38:00 -
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Frederick Sanger wrote:Apparently the new UI is driving the botters away. How absolutely terrible.
All of the botters i have flagged were up and running business as usual within 1-2 days. http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |

Balder Verdandi
Czerka. The Methodical Alliance
52
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:34:00 -
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The UI is a complete and utter failure.
The buttons for corp hangar, both in stations and on industrial ships like the Orca, need to be brought back.
The tabbed windows for Orca/station corp hangar need to be brought back.
The ISK value of items in a container is making for TONS of lag because when I open my inventory or a container, I have to wait until it tallies up the value. This needs so badly to be removed, or at least something we can uncheck and disable it.
I've already listed most of the issues with the link in my signature block below.
I don't stab people in the back. -áWhen you do, you miss the look on their face and that's priceless.
Long live the failure known as "Unified Inventory"! |

David Toviyah
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.06.19 12:46:00 -
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You people do realize that they kept these retarded, separate windows? You just have to open them via shortcuts.
On a side note, I find the UI so much, much better than the old, unwieldy crap inventory. So thanks for that, CCP! IGÇÖm sure you will make it even better in time. |

Reiisha
Splint Eye Probabilities Inc. Dawn of Transcendence
132
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:39:00 -
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David Toviyah wrote:Reiisha wrote:So the wardec changes will go on despite the rather... vocal criticism? Next time please take the two minutes that it takes to inform yourself on this GÇ£issueGÇ¥. What they will introduce with this patch are clothes which theyGÇÖve had already designed in 2011 so there is absolutely no developer time that gets GÇ£wastedGÇ¥ as a result of this change. They only waited so long to release them because crybabies like you would have screamed bloody murder had they introduced them back then. Apparently the wait was futile though because it seems like there are still some persistent specimen of your unpleasant kind left.
What do war declarations have to do with clothes? 0-o |

David Toviyah
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.06.19 13:48:00 -
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Nothing, IGÇÖm just an idiot who misread your sentence and thought that you wrote GÇ£wardrobeGÇ¥ instead of GÇ£wardecGÇ¥ :| |

Draygo Saul
The Sanity's Edge
0
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Posted - 2012.06.19 14:55:00 -
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Wow, so much rage in this thread. Gotta say, it's been a hilarious read. I especially enjoy these competitions over who has accrued the most internet spaceship game knowledge. |

Draygo Saul
The Sanity's Edge
0
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Posted - 2012.06.19 15:06:00 -
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I do agree that some of the UI features might inconvenience some, but there really is a correct way to make that argument and an easy-to-disregard/comical way. |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1064
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Posted - 2012.06.19 15:36:00 -
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Quote:Minor improvements were made to the Contact Management window, especially for adding pilots to the watchlist.
Does this address the issue that removes pilots from the watchlist when setting personal standings en masse? eh |

Thelron
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.06.19 16:21:00 -
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Lumi Leena wrote:May O'Neez wrote: Could you confirm it is the hold-click and NOT the one displayed on the hud, please ?
Yeah, it's the radial menu. The icon has even been grayed out for a while now and picking it does nothing; they're just going to remove the non-working icon from there.
Regarding this- is it possible for a new option to sneak in some future patch to let us completely disable the radial menu? I'm sure some folks get some use out of it, but for me it's just a really scary chance to tell my ship to do something I most definitely don't want it to do when I'm trying to pan the view around a little.
(or is there already an option hidden away somewhere? If so, feel free to barrage me with "it's under ___ you moron" messages/mails, but I haven't found such a thing yet) |

shado20
EXTERMINATUS. Nulli Secunda
30
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Posted - 2012.06.19 17:18:00 -
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still hate this UI, and I have meet no one in eve that likes is, everyone in my corp and fellow alliance members hate it as well. logistics takes twice as long now. pos work takes forever now. working with any pos is a complete joke. dealing with a carrier or rorqual in station is stupid and confusing, as me and everyone I talk to keeps mistaking there ships corp hangers with the station corp hangers. and when I click a ship, posmod, or anything I should be able to open that item, but you cant. its like having folders on your desktop that you cant open with out going to "my computer" and then navigating to the folder you want. no one uses windows this way, why is this UI making us use it that way! also with the old way i would opwn a ship hanger or something and have only a fue small windows open, now the UI takes up the entire screen and it verry bulky. improvements to EvE's UI should be natural and user friendly. what we have now is not! |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
916
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Posted - 2012.06.19 19:13:00 -
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Thelron wrote:Lumi Leena wrote:May O'Neez wrote: Could you confirm it is the hold-click and NOT the one displayed on the hud, please ?
Yeah, it's the radial menu. The icon has even been grayed out for a while now and picking it does nothing; they're just going to remove the non-working icon from there. Regarding this- is it possible for a new option to sneak in some future patch to let us completely disable the radial menu? I'm sure some folks get some use out of it, but for me it's just a really scary chance to tell my ship to do something I most definitely don't want it to do when I'm trying to pan the view around a little. (or is there already an option hidden away somewhere? If so, feel free to barrage me with "it's under ___ you moron" messages/mails, but I haven't found such a thing yet)
I'm with you - the whole radial menu thing could go away for all I care.
I have never liked them, and the one here in Eve just seems thrown in because other games at the time had one. There's little justification for it, nor does it seem to follow any sort of plan or theme in the UI. It's just there. Here's your sign... |

Adrodius
Old Ass Gamers
15
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Posted - 2012.06.20 02:03:00 -
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shado20 wrote:still hate this UI, and I have meet no one in eve that likes is, everyone in my corp and fellow alliance members hate it as well. logistics takes twice as long now. pos work takes forever now. working with any pos is a complete joke. dealing with a carrier or rorqual in station is stupid and confusing, as me and everyone I talk to keeps mistaking there ships corp hangers with the station corp hangers. and when I click a ship, posmod, or anything I should be able to open that item, but you cant. its like having folders on your desktop that you cant open with out going to "my computer" and then navigating to the folder you want. no one uses windows this way, why is this UI making us use it that way! also with the old way i would opwn a ship hanger or something and have only a fue small windows open, now the UI takes up the entire screen and it verry bulky. improvements to EvE's UI should be natural and user friendly. what we have now is not!
I love the new UI and I know many others who likes it to !!!!!
Thanks CCP for the new ui and keep up the good work |

Chokichi Ozuwara
Royal One Piece Corporation Deadly Unknown
320
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Posted - 2012.06.20 02:20:00 -
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Adrodius wrote:I love the new UI and I know many others who likes it to !!!!! Maybe you should learn to play the game mate.
Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round. |

Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
89
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Posted - 2012.06.20 04:45:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:Maybe you should learn to play the game mate.
You just have to l2use it. |

Balder Verdandi
Czerka. The Methodical Alliance
52
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Posted - 2012.06.20 06:17:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:You just have to l2use it.
Ahh yes .... like there is even a choice.
We've been forced to use it even though it's totally lacking in usability and functionality. I still have the YouTube buffering circle thing when loading up my assets in a station while it computes ISK values that quite frankly aren't accurate and are therefore completely useless. Features from the previous don't work (i.e., double clicking to board a ship) are now considered "flaws" and have been removed. Mining with Orca support is a bloody nightmare due to the sheer number of windows one must now have open all the time, or having to re-open/close them all while running a mining op because you can't stack the open windows and have tabs. The idea to integrate everything into a single window is now so cumbersome to use, you have to know the "Secret Squirrel Shortcut Keys" that aren't documented.
I don't stab people in the back. -áWhen you do, you miss the look on their face and that's priceless.
Long live the failure known as "Unified Inventory"! |

Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
470
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Posted - 2012.06.20 07:06:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote: You just have to l2use it.
Said the 3 month old player, who barely knows ALL features or advantages of the old non-unified UI. 
Doubleclick -> Two Windows -> Drag & Drop -> Job Done!
(Without any waiting for loading all items or this sh!tty useless estimated price, which is not a quarter usefull because it is horrible wrong)  I can't play EVE at present. Because of THIS: http://i50.tinypic.com/2ez1wz4.jpg |

Anoexia
Fr33 Banking and Trade
0
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Posted - 2012.06.20 09:02:00 -
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First of all people it may be rough at first ,but until the game goes to a multithreaded client and server model one of the best ways to save on system process time is to go to treed windows. While this may be cumbersome and a bit buggy it will help with server processing time. As for the whole botting thing I say just mark the accounts publicly as botters and confiscate all the goods and ISK. Botter gets no gold and customer gets no ore and you still get at least the sub fee from the botter til they realize what is happening. Scam the botters it will make them foam at the mouth. What is it they do to rabid dogs, I forget.  |

Anoexia
Fr33 Banking and Trade
0
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Posted - 2012.06.20 09:12:00 -
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I believe the prices listed are the mean price for the items listed, I think that a better solution would be to give the option to select the mean buy and sell as well as the hi and low sell and buy prices to give a meaningful index based on a player defined expectation. I personally haven't had very many of the hiccups with the inventory system, it took a bit of getting used to and needs tweaking but it seems to meet all of my needs. |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
916
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Posted - 2012.06.20 11:39:00 -
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Anoexia wrote:First of all people it may be rough at first ,but until the game goes to a multithreaded client and server model one of the best ways to save on system process time is to go to treed windows. While this may be cumbersome and a bit buggy it will help with server processing time.
Performance is slower now on the client. "Cumbersome and a bit buggy" sure helped out there.
Important functionality was lost.
Fresh bugs were introduced with the remaining functionality.
User experience is diminished.
How is it better again?
Here's your sign... |

Invisusira
The Rising Stars The Volition Cult
70
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Posted - 2012.06.20 11:52:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:You just have to l2use it. Man, screw the UI; the feature we really need is a "Dislike" button for forums posts. |

Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
338
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Posted - 2012.06.21 11:28:00 -
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The way to fix most of the issues is REALLY REALLY simple:
1. Bring back the buttons for Ships, Items, Corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position.
2. Bring back the right click options on ships for opening drone bay, cargo bay, ore hold, ship maintenance bay, fuel bay, corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. It is REALLY not a bad thing to have right click options that improve functionality. Remove the redundant ones, like undock etc.
3. When in space, make the cargo icon open the cargo bay only (Cargo icon = cargo bay << simple). Make this open in a separate window with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. If we want the inventory, we can use the icon in the Neocom, thatGÇÖs what it is for (Inventory icon = inventory << again simple)
4. Give the option to hide the ISK value. It takes up space and is a gimmick that is only used rarely. Better still provide a button that will calculate this amount if needed.
5. Reduce the size of the volume bar in containers back to what it used to be, it is too big and takes up space.
These are very simple fixes, which would go a long way to reducing the disgust and contempt people have for CCP at the moment, I cannot believe that they would be difficult to implement. So, please put your egoGÇÖs away and just do it.
Who the hell came up with this primary and secondary window idea ? For the love of God please wise up and just do what is necessary to make this somewhere near useable and not come up with these half assed ideas. |

Slap Chop
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.06.21 13:50:00 -
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Rommiee wrote:blahblahblah
Jesus you whine like a *****. |

David Toviyah
University of Caille Gallente Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.06.21 14:12:00 -
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Rommie, you do know that you already posted this (almost) exact same rant a mere two days ago, right? |

Freundliches Feuer
Comply Or Die Rolling Thunder.
11
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Posted - 2012.06.21 20:48:00 -
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So when is this delayed till ? |

Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
164
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Posted - 2012.06.22 01:15:00 -
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Rommiee wrote:The way to fix most of the issues is REALLY REALLY simple:
1. Bring back the buttons for Ships, Items, Corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position.
2. Bring back the right click options on ships for opening drone bay, cargo bay, ore hold, ship maintenance bay, fuel bay, corp hanger. Make these open in a separate windows with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. It is REALLY not a bad thing to have right click options that improve functionality. Remove the redundant ones, like undock etc.
3. When in space, make the cargo icon open the cargo bay only (Cargo icon = cargo bay << simple). Make this open in a separate window with tree view minimised as default, and remember the position. If we want the inventory, we can use the icon in the Neocom, thatGÇÖs what it is for (Inventory icon = inventory << again simple)
4. Give the option to hide the ISK value. It takes up space and is a gimmick that is only used rarely. Better still provide a button that will calculate this amount if needed.
5. Reduce the size of the volume bar in containers back to what it used to be, it is too big and takes up space.
These are very simple fixes, which would go a long way to reducing the disgust and contempt people have for CCP at the moment, I cannot believe that they would be difficult to implement. So, please put your egoGÇÖs away and just do it.
Who the hell came up with this primary and secondary window idea ? For the love of God please wise up and just do what is necessary to make this somewhere near useable and not come up with these half assed ideas.
Totally agree with this!
I realise that the above is not how we are 'supposed' to use our UI anymore, that we are being told to use the rotten tree instead to move stuff around - but its a buggy, laggy turd so give us back some of the functionality we had.
why the **** can I not simply right click on my carrier to access fuel bay? Instead if I want to check fuel level I have to access it through your ******** tree interface.
Since when did not having a specific button for corp hanger seem like a good idea? I realise that it's all supposed to be accessed through a single interface, I understand the concept - it's a stupid concept but I do get it.
Thanks for the lag
cheers for the reduced functionality
and golf clap to the group of retards that thought this one up. Just checked out the latest build on Sisi it's still a dried turd, maybe if you polish it enough it will shine - it's still **** though.
FFS roll it back.
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Twisted Chick
Adventurers
0
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Posted - 2012.06.22 08:20:00 -
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So is there any word on when this delay will be over? Title: She who hunts Pandas
I Heard there was Pandas around here? You have Pandas? Give me your Pandas. |

Hulasikali Walla
Sardaukar Rise
5
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Posted - 2012.06.22 10:02:00 -
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Twisted Chick wrote:So is there any word on when this delay will be over?
SOON Gäó |
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