Seriously CCP,

We've got Freighters that are just big fat ass empire gank targets.
We've got Orca's which are considered a capital and thus still slow as ass, again.
And we've got the usual haulers that honestly are great, however carry far to little and you only have the choice to tank it or expand it, so...

EVE's almost 10 years old now (production) so isn't it about time that you make a ship that gives haulers some much needed love? A ship that's NOT a capital class which can haul something on the order of 100,000m3 without expanders that you can mod with a tank or whatever floats your ship.

The stuff producers make keeps EVE's market running and gives PvP'ers stuff to shoot at /shoot with. Isn't it about time, after 10 years, that all the EVE technology floating around allow you to give some love to the haulers without whom everything would reside in only a few systems?

It would also give gankers a new target, hey this is a no brainer, a win-win for everyone!

Go DEVS...

As a industry person, i'd expect you had done the math.

Carry >1b and the freighter isn't worth it to gank.

problem solved.

Now, you don't get to have your cake and eat it too.

Security, speed, cargo size. Pick two.

Jump freighters: Secure, fast and large cargo.

Nerf JFs.

Would an empty freighter really take as long align and warp as a full one? I would suggest dropping the base capacity of the t1 freighter, and adding a low slot or two to bring it up to its former cap /top speed /agility, or perhaps a low slot and a rig slot, both needing tech 2 items, or officer/deadspace equivalents to raise it to former levels.

I think they should reduce industrial ship mass and add mass amounts to all of the things that can be in cargo (they don't all have mass numbers) and then make mass of cargo apply to ship acceleration.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=123055&find=unread

Here is a recent thread on this issue. This topic has come up a few times recently. I hope we stand a better chance at it getting attention.

as to the post above this one: Older threads with more numerous posts will probably have more weight with the devs; more input, more response, more views. Quit splitting peoples attention if you REALLY want the issue looked at.

Zimmer, DEVs look at the older weighted posts, but they also look at the new ones too. Capturing eyeballs one eyeball at a time is attention to an issue no matter how you slice and dice it. Debating how to get their attention is a zero-sum game and frankly not worthwhile, however your concern over whether they act on what is seen is a valid point. Two years ago I'd say not, however with their scaling back of WiS and serious attention to FiS in the last two expansions, I'd say that CCP does act on what we do attempt to convey to them.

Here's a parting thought, how about a modular T3 Hauler...

Thanks for the link chaotic!

We (the EVE community) really need to get some traction on this with CCP DEVs. Pimped out T2 haulers and Iteron V's still do nothing to address the huge gap in m3 between Freighters and Industrial ships that are not Capital solutions; JF, Orca etc..

Two fundamental things drive EVE:

1) the destruction of things (PvP, PvE)
2) the creation of things (Industry)

With this in mind, all that stuff (fresh built or loot killed) needs hauling from hither and yon. There needs to exist a better solution in the 100-200K m3 range that is not a Capital ship and can fit mods.

Why? Why does this need to exist, and why does it need to not be a capital? Just fly a freighter, you're dead in hostile space regardless of what kind of hauler you fly.

Indeed, i support that idea as well. I probably would train for the new haulers proposed in the above posts, but if a t3 version came out, i'd drop everything in my skill plan and train that.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=7085

Not exactly a hauler, but the idea could be expanded upon. Somtthing that could carry a reasonable amount more than the transport ships, possibly with the option of certain fits to defeat bubbles and fit covert cloaks. Another fitting option ( possibly instead defeating interdiction bubbles) for a high enough "in warp" speed to outrun pursuers, cause i haven't had an "interesting, white knuckle hauling trip" since they gave the blockade runner the cov-ops cloak.

As you said, who knows what the devs will pay attention to, but they've shown that they want to keep the game interesting on as many levels as possible.

Somtthing [sic] that could carry a reasonable amount more than the transport ships

being capitals, they would likely have construction requirements similar to the Orca

Could you please tell us WHY you think it's so lacking, when you've repeatedly been told other ships do this just fine already?

Danika,

Have you spent any amount of time hauling materials and finished goods around EVE on either main or alts?

-Max

Rapid movement of large amounts of material is fundamentally bad for the game.