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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.11.08 07:24:00 -
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Edited by: Haratu on 08/11/2004 07:28:26
I am blasting this message out into the highways in the hope that a drone infestation might be listening in the communications.
Rather than threaten drone infestations with destruction I would like to trade with such artificial beings, after all - they have done nothing to me. I feel that we could learn so much from them, personally I am interested from a salvage point of view and as an avid droner.
Likewise I am sure they will also benefit from trade with people like me. i can easily provide equipment that would be beneficial for robotic organisms and are often in rare supply.
For any Sentient Drones out there... I am waiting for your reply
Haratu,
CEO, Shinie Stuff Salvagers
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Haratu
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Posted - 2004.11.08 07:24:00 -
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Edited by: Haratu on 08/11/2004 07:28:26
I am blasting this message out into the highways in the hope that a drone infestation might be listening in the communications.
Rather than threaten drone infestations with destruction I would like to trade with such artificial beings, after all - they have done nothing to me. I feel that we could learn so much from them, personally I am interested from a salvage point of view and as an avid droner.
Likewise I am sure they will also benefit from trade with people like me. i can easily provide equipment that would be beneficial for robotic organisms and are often in rare supply.
For any Sentient Drones out there... I am waiting for your reply
Haratu,
CEO, Shinie Stuff Salvagers
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.11.08 09:10:00 -
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To the Rogue Drones, you're a resource. No point in reasoning with things that will try to dismantle your ship from under you.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.11.08 09:10:00 -
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To the Rogue Drones, you're a resource. No point in reasoning with things that will try to dismantle your ship from under you.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Resdayn
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Posted - 2004.11.08 11:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Haratu
Edited by: Haratu on 08/11/2004 07:28:26
I am blasting this message out into the highways in the hope that a drone infestation might be listening in the communications.
Rather than threaten drone infestations with destruction I would like to trade with such artificial beings, after all - they have done nothing to me. I feel that we could learn so much from them, personally I am interested from a salvage point of view and as an avid droner.
Likewise I am sure they will also benefit from trade with people like me. i can easily provide equipment that would be beneficial for robotic organisms and are often in rare supply.
For any Sentient Drones out there... I am waiting for your reply
Haratu,
CEO, Shinie Stuff Salvagers
First you give away un enlightened slaves to become terrorist recruits now you try to strike a deal with hostile machines?
Mariah Lawsara:
do you ever get laid or do you have to rely on Gallente hookers to help you?
Resdayn:
I have never engulfed myself in the heretics of gallantean foundation of economy... |
Resdayn
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Posted - 2004.11.08 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Haratu
Edited by: Haratu on 08/11/2004 07:28:26
I am blasting this message out into the highways in the hope that a drone infestation might be listening in the communications.
Rather than threaten drone infestations with destruction I would like to trade with such artificial beings, after all - they have done nothing to me. I feel that we could learn so much from them, personally I am interested from a salvage point of view and as an avid droner.
Likewise I am sure they will also benefit from trade with people like me. i can easily provide equipment that would be beneficial for robotic organisms and are often in rare supply.
For any Sentient Drones out there... I am waiting for your reply
Haratu,
CEO, Shinie Stuff Salvagers
First you give away un enlightened slaves to become terrorist recruits now you try to strike a deal with hostile machines?
Mariah Lawsara:
do you ever get laid or do you have to rely on Gallente hookers to help you?
Resdayn:
I have never engulfed myself in the heretics of gallantean foundation of economy... |
Lamentress
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Posted - 2004.11.08 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Resdayn
First you give away un enlightened slaves to become terrorist recruits now you try to strike a deal with hostile machines?
I guess he is just trying to follow the Emperors example....
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Lamentress
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Posted - 2004.11.08 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Resdayn
First you give away un enlightened slaves to become terrorist recruits now you try to strike a deal with hostile machines?
I guess he is just trying to follow the Emperors example....
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.08 12:30:00 -
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These rogue drones are described by official reports as semi-sentient. If so it will be very hard to reason or bargain with them, as they will react in a primal/animalistic way. For all we know they may just see our vessels as strange moving asteroids.
The real question is how are these infestations able to spread? Unless they have somehow gotten hold of a jumpdrive (something unlikely) they must be spreading via the gate network. As CONCORD and the empires already do contraband scans, how come these drones have not been detected?
I would also urge all alliance's to scan all ships entering and leaving their space, so that the drones can be contained for study.
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theRaptor
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Posted - 2004.11.08 12:30:00 -
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These rogue drones are described by official reports as semi-sentient. If so it will be very hard to reason or bargain with them, as they will react in a primal/animalistic way. For all we know they may just see our vessels as strange moving asteroids.
The real question is how are these infestations able to spread? Unless they have somehow gotten hold of a jumpdrive (something unlikely) they must be spreading via the gate network. As CONCORD and the empires already do contraband scans, how come these drones have not been detected?
I would also urge all alliance's to scan all ships entering and leaving their space, so that the drones can be contained for study.
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.11.08 12:42:00 -
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Lad, we've had oft had word from spacers that the drones have been using canibalised ships as hives to move themselves. By using the hull and engines, those damned Gal-spawned creations can doubtless get anywhere they need to as long as they're moving through low policed zones. Now with the word of them using deadzones . . well, I think more than likely they'll be feeding more ships materials into their queens and spreading through out the cluster.
And haratu, good luck trying to speak with the drones, but i fancy they'll have the best of the bargain. Your ship, your cargo and possibly your life.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Trooper B99
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Posted - 2004.11.08 12:42:00 -
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Lad, we've had oft had word from spacers that the drones have been using canibalised ships as hives to move themselves. By using the hull and engines, those damned Gal-spawned creations can doubtless get anywhere they need to as long as they're moving through low policed zones. Now with the word of them using deadzones . . well, I think more than likely they'll be feeding more ships materials into their queens and spreading through out the cluster.
And haratu, good luck trying to speak with the drones, but i fancy they'll have the best of the bargain. Your ship, your cargo and possibly your life.
Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
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Resdayn
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Posted - 2004.11.08 12:53:00 -
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trying to making connections with mindless machines i hope they respond and ambush him these machines are a disgrace to god, machines are to serve the living.
Mariah Lawsara:
do you ever get laid or do you have to rely on Gallente hookers to help you?
Resdayn:
I have never engulfed myself in the heretics of gallantean foundation of economy... |
Resdayn
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Posted - 2004.11.08 12:53:00 -
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trying to making connections with mindless machines i hope they respond and ambush him these machines are a disgrace to god, machines are to serve the living.
Mariah Lawsara:
do you ever get laid or do you have to rely on Gallente hookers to help you?
Resdayn:
I have never engulfed myself in the heretics of gallantean foundation of economy... |
Majaraw Awalabas
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Posted - 2004.11.08 12:59:00 -
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A hive does not have a sentient mind.
It is an entity made for one goal, survival.
It does not reason with others, it takes what it can.
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Majaraw Awalabas
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Posted - 2004.11.08 12:59:00 -
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A hive does not have a sentient mind.
It is an entity made for one goal, survival.
It does not reason with others, it takes what it can.
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Resdayn
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Posted - 2004.11.08 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas
A hive does not have a sentient mind.
It is an entity made for one goal, survival.
It does not reason with others, it takes what it can.
the hive should be harnessed, dissected and executed before they come on us like a plague.
Mariah Lawsara:
do you ever get laid or do you have to rely on Gallente hookers to help you?
Resdayn:
I have never engulfed myself in the heretics of gallantean foundation of economy... |
Resdayn
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Posted - 2004.11.08 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Majaraw Awalabas
A hive does not have a sentient mind.
It is an entity made for one goal, survival.
It does not reason with others, it takes what it can.
the hive should be harnessed, dissected and executed before they come on us like a plague.
Mariah Lawsara:
do you ever get laid or do you have to rely on Gallente hookers to help you?
Resdayn:
I have never engulfed myself in the heretics of gallantean foundation of economy... |
Archbishop
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Posted - 2004.11.08 14:10:00 -
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Drones are non-living entities and thus have no soul. Thus they can not worship God. Their fate is already sealed. They must be destroyed for without God there is only darkness.
Archbishop
PIE CORPORATION
VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2004.11.08 14:10:00 -
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Drones are non-living entities and thus have no soul. Thus they can not worship God. Their fate is already sealed. They must be destroyed for without God there is only darkness.
Archbishop
PIE CORPORATION
VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS
PIE INFORMATION CENTER |
Haratu
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Haratu on 08/11/2004 16:22:34
You guys are not thinking logically... sure artificial entities have no soul... but that doe not make them evil, rather they need help and guidance to teach them the way those of us with should do things. If they follow a logical path then they would find that trade is far more beneficial for them rather than battling us in a war they will possibly loose. Likewise for us.
Peace is the answer to many of lifes problems and I am always shamed that more Amarrians do not read the Emperor's Pax Amarria and understand it.
PS: As for me releasing slaves into terrorism, I did not, they were loyal to God, everyone of them- otherwise I would not have released them. Resdayn, I thought you already knew that.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Haratu
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Haratu on 08/11/2004 16:22:34
You guys are not thinking logically... sure artificial entities have no soul... but that doe not make them evil, rather they need help and guidance to teach them the way those of us with should do things. If they follow a logical path then they would find that trade is far more beneficial for them rather than battling us in a war they will possibly loose. Likewise for us.
Peace is the answer to many of lifes problems and I am always shamed that more Amarrians do not read the Emperor's Pax Amarria and understand it.
PS: As for me releasing slaves into terrorism, I did not, they were loyal to God, everyone of them- otherwise I would not have released them. Resdayn, I thought you already knew that.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Tharrn
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:25:00 -
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Teach logic to a virus and you might also succeed in teaching these mechanical virii. I wish you good luck in your endeavour although I fear we'll find your dismantled ship somewhere.
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:25:00 -
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Teach logic to a virus and you might also succeed in teaching these mechanical virii. I wish you good luck in your endeavour although I fear we'll find your dismantled ship somewhere.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Scuro on 08/11/2004 16:42:14
Great idea, Harata! One question - can I have your ship when (sorry, if) you die?
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Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun! |
Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Scuro on 08/11/2004 16:42:14
Great idea, Harata! One question - can I have your ship when (sorry, if) you die?
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Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun! |
Dimebar
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Posted - 2004.11.08 17:05:00 -
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Erm, I think he'd lose his ship in the process of dying, Nero...
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Oi loikes...ARMADILLOES!! Smooth on the inside, crunchy on the outside, ARMADILLOES!!! |
Dimebar
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Posted - 2004.11.08 17:05:00 -
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Erm, I think he'd lose his ship in the process of dying, Nero...
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Oi loikes...ARMADILLOES!! Smooth on the inside, crunchy on the outside, ARMADILLOES!!! |
Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.11.09 05:15:00 -
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The Drone is the predator.
You are prey.
The prey doesnt trade with its predator.
It runs or it dies.
Its cries for help will bring the the predator more prey.
That is the cycle. Wait until those little bastards get thier cold little claws and cutting lasers on a few Battleships.
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Ly'sol
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Posted - 2004.11.09 05:15:00 -
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The Drone is the predator.
You are prey.
The prey doesnt trade with its predator.
It runs or it dies.
Its cries for help will bring the the predator more prey.
That is the cycle. Wait until those little bastards get thier cold little claws and cutting lasers on a few Battleships.
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Resdayn
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Posted - 2004.11.09 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Haratu
Edited by: Haratu on 08/11/2004 16:22:34
You guys are not thinking logically... sure artificial entities have no soul... but that doe not make them evil, rather they need help and guidance to teach them the way those of us with should do things. If they follow a logical path then they would find that trade is far more beneficial for them rather than battling us in a war they will possibly loose. Likewise for us.
Peace is the answer to many of lifes problems and I am always shamed that more Amarrians do not read the Emperor's Pax Amarria and understand it.
PS: As for me releasing slaves into terrorism, I did not, they were loyal to God, everyone of them- otherwise I would not have released them. Resdayn, I thought you already knew that.
Just as Tharrn said they are a virus, you cant communicate with something as a virus, they need to be cleansed before they spread and kill many an amarrian life. If they were loyal to god our laws and traditions state perfectly clear that they are to be taken care of by the Nefantar Government.
Mariah Lawsara:
do you ever get laid or do you have to rely on Gallente hookers to help you?
Resdayn:
I have never engulfed myself in the heretics of gallantean foundation of economy... |
Resdayn
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Posted - 2004.11.09 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Haratu
Edited by: Haratu on 08/11/2004 16:22:34
You guys are not thinking logically... sure artificial entities have no soul... but that doe not make them evil, rather they need help and guidance to teach them the way those of us with should do things. If they follow a logical path then they would find that trade is far more beneficial for them rather than battling us in a war they will possibly loose. Likewise for us.
Peace is the answer to many of lifes problems and I am always shamed that more Amarrians do not read the Emperor's Pax Amarria and understand it.
PS: As for me releasing slaves into terrorism, I did not, they were loyal to God, everyone of them- otherwise I would not have released them. Resdayn, I thought you already knew that.
Just as Tharrn said they are a virus, you cant communicate with something as a virus, they need to be cleansed before they spread and kill many an amarrian life. If they were loyal to god our laws and traditions state perfectly clear that they are to be taken care of by the Nefantar Government.
Mariah Lawsara:
do you ever get laid or do you have to rely on Gallente hookers to help you?
Resdayn:
I have never engulfed myself in the heretics of gallantean foundation of economy... |
Haratu
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Posted - 2004.11.09 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: Haratu on 09/11/2004 16:35:18
Originally by: Resdayn
Just as Tharrn said they are a virus, you cant communicate with something as a virus, they need to be cleansed before they spread and kill many an amarrian life.
Some viruses in biological sense have been known to be useful in combating other diseases. A virus is not necassarily a bad thing if used properly. Many viral infections actually live in the host symbiotically (in relationship with) both benefiting eachother.
So far I have not seen a single Amarrian life damaged by the drone infestations and so I believe you are jumping the gun quite a bit... in more ways than one.
Originally by: Resdayn
If they were loyal to god our laws and traditions state perfectly clear that they are to be taken care of by the Nefantar Government.
I presume you are talking about the slaves here, not the drones... Did it ever opccur to you that there can be God believers in Minmatar that in turn spread the word? sometimes we can peacefully do God's work through something as simple as releasing slaves.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Haratu
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Posted - 2004.11.09 16:27:00 -
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Edited by: Haratu on 09/11/2004 16:35:18
Originally by: Resdayn
Just as Tharrn said they are a virus, you cant communicate with something as a virus, they need to be cleansed before they spread and kill many an amarrian life.
Some viruses in biological sense have been known to be useful in combating other diseases. A virus is not necassarily a bad thing if used properly. Many viral infections actually live in the host symbiotically (in relationship with) both benefiting eachother.
So far I have not seen a single Amarrian life damaged by the drone infestations and so I believe you are jumping the gun quite a bit... in more ways than one.
Originally by: Resdayn
If they were loyal to god our laws and traditions state perfectly clear that they are to be taken care of by the Nefantar Government.
I presume you are talking about the slaves here, not the drones... Did it ever opccur to you that there can be God believers in Minmatar that in turn spread the word? sometimes we can peacefully do God's work through something as simple as releasing slaves.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Amarula
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Posted - 2004.11.09 16:38:00 -
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Mind you, I've no doubt that if the drones were fully sentient and made contact with the Amarr, they'd just end up slaves under the Amarr just like the Minmatar were when we made contact with them...
hey, maybe the drones might end up on our side against Amarr slavery, you never know...
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Amarula
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Posted - 2004.11.09 16:38:00 -
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Mind you, I've no doubt that if the drones were fully sentient and made contact with the Amarr, they'd just end up slaves under the Amarr just like the Minmatar were when we made contact with them...
hey, maybe the drones might end up on our side against Amarr slavery, you never know...
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2004.11.09 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Scuro on 09/11/2004 21:44:56
Quote:
hey, maybe the drones might end up on our side against Amarr slavery, you never know...
Not even drones are that mindless...
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Some viruses in biological sense have been known to be useful in combating other diseases.
Very true. Genetically engineered viruses have been used for centuries to cure genetic diseases.
But no virus has ever naturally been helpful. You're thinking of bacteria. By their very nature they have to kill cells to live (whether the cells be harmful to us or our very own cells, it doesn't matter to a virus).
This is similar with rogue drones. They may seem as being helpful, destroying things harmful to us all, such as Pirate or Minmatar 'Freedom' Fighter ships, but they'll just as quickly turn on you or me.
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Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun! |
Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2004.11.09 21:04:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Scuro on 09/11/2004 21:44:56
Quote:
hey, maybe the drones might end up on our side against Amarr slavery, you never know...
Not even drones are that mindless...
Quote:
Some viruses in biological sense have been known to be useful in combating other diseases.
Very true. Genetically engineered viruses have been used for centuries to cure genetic diseases.
But no virus has ever naturally been helpful. You're thinking of bacteria. By their very nature they have to kill cells to live (whether the cells be harmful to us or our very own cells, it doesn't matter to a virus).
This is similar with rogue drones. They may seem as being helpful, destroying things harmful to us all, such as Pirate or Minmatar 'Freedom' Fighter ships, but they'll just as quickly turn on you or me.
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Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun! |
Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.11.09 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Resdayn
Just as Tharrn said they are a virus, you cant communicate with something as a virus, they need to be cleansed before they spread and kill many an amarrian life. If they were loyal to god our laws and traditions state perfectly clear that they are to be taken care of by the Nefantar Government.
Yes, the Ammatar Federation offers full membership to enlightened slaves. Remember, membership is Imperial Citizenship! With their new jobs in AMFED they can lead productive and useful lives free from athiesm and heresy.
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Pulgor --- In service to Saram.
Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Pulgor
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Posted - 2004.11.09 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Resdayn
Just as Tharrn said they are a virus, you cant communicate with something as a virus, they need to be cleansed before they spread and kill many an amarrian life. If they were loyal to god our laws and traditions state perfectly clear that they are to be taken care of by the Nefantar Government.
Yes, the Ammatar Federation offers full membership to enlightened slaves. Remember, membership is Imperial Citizenship! With their new jobs in AMFED they can lead productive and useful lives free from athiesm and heresy.
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Pulgor --- In service to Saram.
Visit the Ammatar channel ingame!
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Haratu
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Posted - 2004.11.10 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
But no virus has ever naturally been helpful. You're thinking of bacteria. By their very nature they have to kill cells to live (whether the cells be harmful to us or our very own cells, it doesn't matter to a virus).
This is similar with rogue drones. They may seem as being helpful, destroying things harmful to us all, such as Pirate or Minmatar 'Freedom' Fighter ships, but they'll just as quickly turn on you or me.
There are some viruses that have been know to help prevent other bacterial and viral infections. THis is because viruses effect amino acid and therefore protein production. Although most viruses have negative effects, many have small positive effects too.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Haratu
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Posted - 2004.11.10 01:07:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
But no virus has ever naturally been helpful. You're thinking of bacteria. By their very nature they have to kill cells to live (whether the cells be harmful to us or our very own cells, it doesn't matter to a virus).
This is similar with rogue drones. They may seem as being helpful, destroying things harmful to us all, such as Pirate or Minmatar 'Freedom' Fighter ships, but they'll just as quickly turn on you or me.
There are some viruses that have been know to help prevent other bacterial and viral infections. THis is because viruses effect amino acid and therefore protein production. Although most viruses have negative effects, many have small positive effects too.
I roleplay... there is this computer game called "Earth - The First Genesis" where i play a character in the early 21st century. |
Sulyana Baiur
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Posted - 2004.11.10 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Sulyana Baiur on 10/11/2004 12:01:06
*folds her hands*
The only true questions as to the value of the drone hive are these;
If you take a machine, and you program it to love God, is it worthy of existance? If it possesses free will but you overrun that with coding then have you created a worshipper or simply a machine that recites scripture?
Which is of greater value to the empire? Another PIE fleet or free thinking drones that chose God as their lord and the Emperor as their master? Do they even possess that level of intellegence? Can a machine understand what it is to know God?
I for one believe if these rogue drones are sentient but rely upon a hive structure, they are no wiser than ants or wasps. And Haratu, can you honestly think that you would be able to make a deal with a hornet for it's honey?
I do not think so.
I think I will leave greater minds than my own to ponder the ramifications of the philosophical questions I have posed. As well I hope those members of PIE who come across this comment do take it as it was intended, as jest.
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Sulyana Baiur
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Posted - 2004.11.10 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Sulyana Baiur on 10/11/2004 12:01:06
*folds her hands*
The only true questions as to the value of the drone hive are these;
If you take a machine, and you program it to love God, is it worthy of existance? If it possesses free will but you overrun that with coding then have you created a worshipper or simply a machine that recites scripture?
Which is of greater value to the empire? Another PIE fleet or free thinking drones that chose God as their lord and the Emperor as their master? Do they even possess that level of intellegence? Can a machine understand what it is to know God?
I for one believe if these rogue drones are sentient but rely upon a hive structure, they are no wiser than ants or wasps. And Haratu, can you honestly think that you would be able to make a deal with a hornet for it's honey?
I do not think so.
I think I will leave greater minds than my own to ponder the ramifications of the philosophical questions I have posed. As well I hope those members of PIE who come across this comment do take it as it was intended, as jest.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.11.10 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
The real question is how are these infestations able to spread? Unless they have somehow gotten hold of a jumpdrive (something unlikely) they must be spreading via the gate network.
Who knows what kind of technology they have, they could easily infect a normal ship. Not to mention they got the accel gate Tech before us 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.11.10 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: theRaptor
The real question is how are these infestations able to spread? Unless they have somehow gotten hold of a jumpdrive (something unlikely) they must be spreading via the gate network.
Who knows what kind of technology they have, they could easily infect a normal ship. Not to mention they got the accel gate Tech before us
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Resdayn
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Posted - 2004.11.10 23:42:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritan
Originally by: theRaptor
The real question is how are these infestations able to spread? Unless they have somehow gotten hold of a jumpdrive (something unlikely) they must be spreading via the gate network.
Who knows what kind of technology they have, they could easily infect a normal ship. Not to mention they got the accel gate Tech before us
Before the pod pilots yes...before the governments and institutions? not likely..
Mariah Lawsara:
do you ever get laid or do you have to rely on Gallente hookers to help you?
Resdayn:
I have never engulfed myself in the heretics of gallantean foundation of economy... |
Resdayn
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Posted - 2004.11.10 23:42:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritan
Originally by: theRaptor
The real question is how are these infestations able to spread? Unless they have somehow gotten hold of a jumpdrive (something unlikely) they must be spreading via the gate network.
Who knows what kind of technology they have, they could easily infect a normal ship. Not to mention they got the accel gate Tech before us
Before the pod pilots yes...before the governments and institutions? not likely..
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Stedd Tallstagg
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Posted - 2004.11.16 10:22:00 -
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What litle I know of this infestation of drones, I have a theory about how it spreads.
If we asume that theese are truly 100% contructed, that they are not a biologic cyberenhanced, they could easily spread in the same way that "real" life have been spreading for countless eons. If they can seed self replicating nano-bots into an asteroid, push this out in deep space. If you push enough infected asteroids out, you will eventually hit another asteroid, or a planet thus alowing it to spread asteroid to asteroid. Now that it have managed to get a foothold in empire space, I fear that miners can mine an asteroid containing theese nano-bots, thus infecting it's ship, and the station it's refined. The question is only how long time it would take for the nano-bots to "build" itself into a full pledged hive.
On a second note, I belive this may be something that our ancestors left behind. But that it evolved to the semi-intelligent beeing that we have now encountered. It then raises a question; if robots manage to evolve, how can our priests claim that we are God's favoured?
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Stedd Tallstagg
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Posted - 2004.11.16 10:22:00 -
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What litle I know of this infestation of drones, I have a theory about how it spreads.
If we asume that theese are truly 100% contructed, that they are not a biologic cyberenhanced, they could easily spread in the same way that "real" life have been spreading for countless eons. If they can seed self replicating nano-bots into an asteroid, push this out in deep space. If you push enough infected asteroids out, you will eventually hit another asteroid, or a planet thus alowing it to spread asteroid to asteroid. Now that it have managed to get a foothold in empire space, I fear that miners can mine an asteroid containing theese nano-bots, thus infecting it's ship, and the station it's refined. The question is only how long time it would take for the nano-bots to "build" itself into a full pledged hive.
On a second note, I belive this may be something that our ancestors left behind. But that it evolved to the semi-intelligent beeing that we have now encountered. It then raises a question; if robots manage to evolve, how can our priests claim that we are God's favoured?
The Duke of Gebuladi |
Milton Smythe
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Posted - 2004.11.17 00:13:00 -
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That is an interesting theory.
But one made on the assumption that the 'lifeform' is nanosized.
As far as we know yet this is about self producing mildly intelligent drones, that has been formed in some manner.
Quite bad enough but far from the intelligent nanobot theory.
The smallest rogue drone is probably still weighing hundreds of kilograms and wil be unable to sneak past sensors and hitch a ride into the cargohold.
Of course I make assumptions too, I have not had the dubious honor of visually observe them.
But I am reasonably sure that it is far more likely that the advanced drones will start making its own decisions then a nanobot will. The processing power of the two are wildly different and the drone is programed to a much greater range of tasks and parameters , yes even to be aware of its enviroment to avoid being shot.
The nanobot have no such concerns and have only one task.
I accept that this one task could in the end become that of mindless self reproduction , but the visual data would look much different then. They would likely not have the capacity to wait for the oppurtune time , and it would not explain the presence of the Rogue drones
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Milton Smythe
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Posted - 2004.11.17 00:13:00 -
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That is an interesting theory.
But one made on the assumption that the 'lifeform' is nanosized.
As far as we know yet this is about self producing mildly intelligent drones, that has been formed in some manner.
Quite bad enough but far from the intelligent nanobot theory.
The smallest rogue drone is probably still weighing hundreds of kilograms and wil be unable to sneak past sensors and hitch a ride into the cargohold.
Of course I make assumptions too, I have not had the dubious honor of visually observe them.
But I am reasonably sure that it is far more likely that the advanced drones will start making its own decisions then a nanobot will. The processing power of the two are wildly different and the drone is programed to a much greater range of tasks and parameters , yes even to be aware of its enviroment to avoid being shot.
The nanobot have no such concerns and have only one task.
I accept that this one task could in the end become that of mindless self reproduction , but the visual data would look much different then. They would likely not have the capacity to wait for the oppurtune time , and it would not explain the presence of the Rogue drones
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FEDNET
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Posted - 2004.11.17 05:52:00 -
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Ammatar Federation scientists believe it works like this:
The seed drones are probably no bigger then 1 centimeter by 1 centimeter and they are deployed near gates and such by the dereclect ships that are piloted by the bigger drones. These small mini-drones attach themselves on to asteroids, planet surface, or ships. Once activated this little drone turns into a refinery reprocessing minerals off the ship, planet or asteroid it landed on and begins constructing tiny 1 milimeter by 1 milimeter drones. These tiny drones then begin the construction of more refinery drones that are 1 centimeter by 1 centimeter. Once there are thousands of tiny drones they begin combining the refinery drones into one big refinery drone and they start building bigger drones. This process continues and the refinery drones and construction drones get continously bigger. Once they are about the size of a pod they begin developing weapons and such to defend their new hive. This development continues onward and also the drones still keep increasing their size as they build the weapon drones.
Then once the minerals run dry, the situation varies. If it is a ship, then the remains of the ship are used to propel and seed new hives. Then the ship will head to an asteroid belt and the old hive will continue its mission to increase and expand. If it's an asteroid the drones will try to move out to other asteroids and form little mineral networks and such to expand. If it's a planet, then the drones wil make their subtle presence notiable and acquire more resources through any means necessary.
The drones adapt through trial and error mostly. They constantly better themselves so as to acquire more resources and expand. Ammatar Scientists have been unable to acquire a live drone yet to research it's workings and core programming. There is currently a reward out for the location of drone hives and an even higher reward for a live drone.
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FEDNET
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Posted - 2004.11.17 05:52:00 -
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Ammatar Federation scientists believe it works like this:
The seed drones are probably no bigger then 1 centimeter by 1 centimeter and they are deployed near gates and such by the dereclect ships that are piloted by the bigger drones. These small mini-drones attach themselves on to asteroids, planet surface, or ships. Once activated this little drone turns into a refinery reprocessing minerals off the ship, planet or asteroid it landed on and begins constructing tiny 1 milimeter by 1 milimeter drones. These tiny drones then begin the construction of more refinery drones that are 1 centimeter by 1 centimeter. Once there are thousands of tiny drones they begin combining the refinery drones into one big refinery drone and they start building bigger drones. This process continues and the refinery drones and construction drones get continously bigger. Once they are about the size of a pod they begin developing weapons and such to defend their new hive. This development continues onward and also the drones still keep increasing their size as they build the weapon drones.
Then once the minerals run dry, the situation varies. If it is a ship, then the remains of the ship are used to propel and seed new hives. Then the ship will head to an asteroid belt and the old hive will continue its mission to increase and expand. If it's an asteroid the drones will try to move out to other asteroids and form little mineral networks and such to expand. If it's a planet, then the drones wil make their subtle presence notiable and acquire more resources through any means necessary.
The drones adapt through trial and error mostly. They constantly better themselves so as to acquire more resources and expand. Ammatar Scientists have been unable to acquire a live drone yet to research it's workings and core programming. There is currently a reward out for the location of drone hives and an even higher reward for a live drone.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2004.11.18 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Scuro on 18/11/2004 11:48:14
So, the Ammatar now believe that there are millions of teeny little drones scurrying around? That nobody can see? Only them?
How quaint, but I suggest they leave the research to the real scientists (ie, Zainou), and go play something else. Military - you seem to play at that rather well...
And some advice for our hapless Haratu, assuming I am not too late and am now talking to a now wiser clone, but I have witnessed that Rogue Drones seem to follow a hive mentality. Hives usually have a queen, and given that the rogue drones themselves have something similar, a mother drone who starts new colonies off, it could be possible that this 'queen' acts as a central hub of information and intelligence, and any communications should be directed toward 'her', and not the mindless hordes we know the masses of rogue drones to be.
Of course, our potential 'queen' could still not be intelligent enough to understand english (remember, these drones have learnt everything they know themselves. There is no reason they would have learned English, and not their own language). And you would need to have something worth trading with. Other ships, maybe..?
Of course, this is all conjecture, and the best policy would still be shoot any rogue drones on sight, which is a policy I will be adhering to adamantly... 
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2004.11.18 11:42:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Scuro on 18/11/2004 11:48:14
So, the Ammatar now believe that there are millions of teeny little drones scurrying around? That nobody can see? Only them?
How quaint, but I suggest they leave the research to the real scientists (ie, Zainou), and go play something else. Military - you seem to play at that rather well...
And some advice for our hapless Haratu, assuming I am not too late and am now talking to a now wiser clone, but I have witnessed that Rogue Drones seem to follow a hive mentality. Hives usually have a queen, and given that the rogue drones themselves have something similar, a mother drone who starts new colonies off, it could be possible that this 'queen' acts as a central hub of information and intelligence, and any communications should be directed toward 'her', and not the mindless hordes we know the masses of rogue drones to be.
Of course, our potential 'queen' could still not be intelligent enough to understand english (remember, these drones have learnt everything they know themselves. There is no reason they would have learned English, and not their own language). And you would need to have something worth trading with. Other ships, maybe..?
Of course, this is all conjecture, and the best policy would still be shoot any rogue drones on sight, which is a policy I will be adhering to adamantly...
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Clericuzio
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Posted - 2004.11.18 22:59:00 -
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My parent company, CBD is very interested in these drones, I believe they'd be very profitable and think of the techology they must pocess!
This drones need to be captured and anaylised by our scientists, think of the drone interfacing possiabilties it would finally send CBD to the top where it belongs
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Clericuzio
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Posted - 2004.11.18 22:59:00 -
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My parent company, CBD is very interested in these drones, I believe they'd be very profitable and think of the techology they must pocess!
This drones need to be captured and anaylised by our scientists, think of the drone interfacing possiabilties it would finally send CBD to the top where it belongs
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2004.12.08 16:17:56 combat Your AFK at belt stupidity perfectly strikes your wallet wrecking for 10.43 million isk.
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2004.11.19 03:53:00 -
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You mean how it propelled the Gallentean company who invented them to the top? These 'things' are dangerous. Intelligent, yes, but very, very dangerous...
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2004.11.19 03:53:00 -
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You mean how it propelled the Gallentean company who invented them to the top? These 'things' are dangerous. Intelligent, yes, but very, very dangerous...
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