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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.11.08 15:47:00 -
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Im not here to try and 'DEMAND' people accept what i post, i want people to make options for us, i want people to try and solve this problem because we are the only people that will.
Hopefully CCP will listen to this thread and see how much of an issue it really is, but alas i think its a bleak thought.
No drones is a start, but there should be more options.
Now CCP is pretty much forcing people to edit game files to reduce lag because the client is pants and the servers dont help. So come on people, more guidelines would be good, and as i said, these arent demands or rules they are mutual 'guidlines' of how to operate a fleet battle that WORKS!
Aneu
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Aneu Angellus
Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.11.08 15:47:00 -
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Im not here to try and 'DEMAND' people accept what i post, i want people to make options for us, i want people to try and solve this problem because we are the only people that will.
Hopefully CCP will listen to this thread and see how much of an issue it really is, but alas i think its a bleak thought.
No drones is a start, but there should be more options.
Now CCP is pretty much forcing people to edit game files to reduce lag because the client is pants and the servers dont help. So come on people, more guidelines would be good, and as i said, these arent demands or rules they are mutual 'guidlines' of how to operate a fleet battle that WORKS!
Aneu
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Aneu Angellus
Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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GoldenCyborg
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Posted - 2004.11.08 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: GoldenCyborg on 08/11/2004 15:58:14
The lag isn't limited to 40vs40. There is far too much lag even in 10vs10 battles.
Perhaps it would be better to suggest that we get some formal statment from CCP as to what is causing the lag... At the very least they should know what is causing the lag. It should not be rendering. It is most likely net lag. Perhaps either the servers are trying to send too much data to each client, or there is some server/client synchronization that is taking place. It is obvious that the servers are doing a large amount of the computation, perhaps some of this could be off-loaded to the clients.
CCP, if need be I'm sure the lot of us will run tcpdump /w fraps while we are engaged in combat.
At the very least the alliances, should request some formal statement from CCP regarding the issue.
How is Eve different from the other online games where there may be multiple hundreds of players fighting over the same bases?
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GoldenCyborg
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Posted - 2004.11.08 15:53:00 -
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Edited by: GoldenCyborg on 08/11/2004 15:58:14
The lag isn't limited to 40vs40. There is far too much lag even in 10vs10 battles.
Perhaps it would be better to suggest that we get some formal statment from CCP as to what is causing the lag... At the very least they should know what is causing the lag. It should not be rendering. It is most likely net lag. Perhaps either the servers are trying to send too much data to each client, or there is some server/client synchronization that is taking place. It is obvious that the servers are doing a large amount of the computation, perhaps some of this could be off-loaded to the clients.
CCP, if need be I'm sure the lot of us will run tcpdump /w fraps while we are engaged in combat.
At the very least the alliances, should request some formal statement from CCP regarding the issue.
How is Eve different from the other online games where there may be multiple hundreds of players fighting over the same bases?
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.08 15:56:00 -
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What is this 'editting of game files' you speak of ??
Smells like sploits to me ......unless of course you share this ebil knowledge.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.08 15:56:00 -
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What is this 'editting of game files' you speak of ??
Smells like sploits to me ......unless of course you share this ebil knowledge.
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.11.08 15:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Estios
What is this 'editting of game files' you speak of ??
Smells like sploits to me ......unless of course you share this ebil knowledge.
Estios, you know of what i speak hehe... dont be evhul.
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Aneu Angellus
Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Aneu Angellus
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Posted - 2004.11.08 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: Estios
What is this 'editting of game files' you speak of ??
Smells like sploits to me ......unless of course you share this ebil knowledge.
Estios, you know of what i speak hehe... dont be evhul.
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Aneu Angellus
Vengeance Of The Fallen - WolfPack Military Captain
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Estios on 08/11/2004 16:05:01
No honestly I dont know, if I did dude I wouldnt be spending half the time in battles sitting alone at gates wondering where all these targets which are being called are ....
Do you mean the PA forum discussion/idea/exploit ?
If a few people start doing this **** whilst others arent then thats majorly wrong and they should be banned, if we ALL do it then tell me how
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:01:00 -
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Edited by: Estios on 08/11/2004 16:05:01
No honestly I dont know, if I did dude I wouldnt be spending half the time in battles sitting alone at gates wondering where all these targets which are being called are ....
Do you mean the PA forum discussion/idea/exploit ?
If a few people start doing this **** whilst others arent then thats majorly wrong and they should be banned, if we ALL do it then tell me how
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:04:00 -
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Putting self imposed limits on fleet numbers is not solving the problem, it's just overlooking it.
If you test you can solve.
/emote jumps up on his testing soapbox.
P.S. The devs are aware of the problem so don't make out like this thread might suddenly make them aware. At the fanfest Solaris said they had been testing them on TQ threads and that had been like eating their own dog**** but promised that Shiva was much better. So again go test.
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Iratus Caelestis
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:04:00 -
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Putting self imposed limits on fleet numbers is not solving the problem, it's just overlooking it.
If you test you can solve.
/emote jumps up on his testing soapbox.
P.S. The devs are aware of the problem so don't make out like this thread might suddenly make them aware. At the fanfest Solaris said they had been testing them on TQ threads and that had been like eating their own dog**** but promised that Shiva was much better. So again go test.
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Cobalt Digger
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Cobalt Digger on 08/11/2004 16:13:22
well I guess we have gone backwards from Castor
mining thread
300+ mining drones
could be diffrent for combat drones though I guess
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Cobalt Digger
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:06:00 -
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Edited by: Cobalt Digger on 08/11/2004 16:13:22
well I guess we have gone backwards from Castor
mining thread
300+ mining drones
could be diffrent for combat drones though I guess
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
wont work. Impossible to regulate, how do you 'stop' extra people coming along etc.
CA has more or less decided no more defensive fights (we will always be on the offence) after the HLW fiasco where 2/3 of our pilots couldnt target.
that was the same for everyone though dude :/ it sucked for us all im afraid.
Sass
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Lallante
wont work. Impossible to regulate, how do you 'stop' extra people coming along etc.
CA has more or less decided no more defensive fights (we will always be on the offence) after the HLW fiasco where 2/3 of our pilots couldnt target.
that was the same for everyone though dude :/ it sucked for us all im afraid.
Sass
Arcane Technologies |
Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cobalt Digger
well I guess we have gon backward from Castor
300+ mining drones
No **** , the lag experienced Tuesday, and to a slightly lesser degree last night was the WORST Ive ever seen in EVE. MUCH worse than the 200+ battles in HLW last year (or was that earlier this year ??)
Thats the only bizarre thing, its not that we think CCP dont know there is lag but most would agree its actually getting worse AFTER these server UPGRADES ....
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Estios
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Posted - 2004.11.08 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cobalt Digger
well I guess we have gon backward from Castor
300+ mining drones
No **** , the lag experienced Tuesday, and to a slightly lesser degree last night was the WORST Ive ever seen in EVE. MUCH worse than the 200+ battles in HLW last year (or was that earlier this year ??)
Thats the only bizarre thing, its not that we think CCP dont know there is lag but most would agree its actually getting worse AFTER these server UPGRADES ....
So HMV consider Andy Williams and Dean Martin to be "easy listening" do they? Tell that to my mate Dave, he's been deaf for 20 years.
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2004.11.08 17:27:00 -
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Funny thing is, CA never had a problem with blobs when they had the bigger blob and were ganking everyone at will. Now that an equal blob jumps in on them, now all of the sudden, blobs are a problem, because CA is taking losses.
So now everyone has to stop what they are doing and tell people, æNo, you canÆt come, log offÆ, because CA donÆt like it. Hey, spread out in that big CA space of yours and donÆt blob HLW and youÆll get the 40 gang fights you want, but donÆt pretend that you are asking for this out of the goodness of your hart and to help out everyone. I donÆt buy it for a second, Anue.
CCP needs to do something about it.
What I have noticed is that when you re-log, these loading of the screens problems disappear or are minimized. I have also noticed that after making bookmarks or adding someone to your buddy list, thatÆs where the loading of screens gets messed up. I try to re-log before a battle and then donÆt BM or add anybody to my buddy list before a fight and everything seams to work fine.
There are also problems with people logging in for like 10 minutes in to blank screen because thy/I have a lot of people in the buddy list. I bet thatÆs why we have these loading problems.
CCP needs to do something about it.
The truth will set you free
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2004.11.08 17:27:00 -
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Funny thing is, CA never had a problem with blobs when they had the bigger blob and were ganking everyone at will. Now that an equal blob jumps in on them, now all of the sudden, blobs are a problem, because CA is taking losses.
So now everyone has to stop what they are doing and tell people, æNo, you canÆt come, log offÆ, because CA donÆt like it. Hey, spread out in that big CA space of yours and donÆt blob HLW and youÆll get the 40 gang fights you want, but donÆt pretend that you are asking for this out of the goodness of your hart and to help out everyone. I donÆt buy it for a second, Anue.
CCP needs to do something about it.
What I have noticed is that when you re-log, these loading of the screens problems disappear or are minimized. I have also noticed that after making bookmarks or adding someone to your buddy list, thatÆs where the loading of screens gets messed up. I try to re-log before a battle and then donÆt BM or add anybody to my buddy list before a fight and everything seams to work fine.
There are also problems with people logging in for like 10 minutes in to blank screen because thy/I have a lot of people in the buddy list. I bet thatÆs why we have these loading problems.
CCP needs to do something about it.
The truth will set you free
* Proud to be ATUK * |
DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.11.08 18:20:00 -
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Aneu, i rather see you make a line at the bottom of your posts with:
This is my personal opinion, since it is.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.11.08 18:20:00 -
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Aneu, i rather see you make a line at the bottom of your posts with:
This is my personal opinion, since it is.
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Lowa
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Posted - 2004.11.08 18:54:00 -
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This is really blowing up lately! And thats good.
The issue is severe enough.
I'll try the relog-thing when I get the chance and
see if it helps me. I dont have that many BM's and
hardly any ppl in address book so that shouldnt effect
me that much but...I'll give it a shot. When I get
back from the UK...and work has slowed down some...
So sometime Q2 2005 I'll have a go. 
Regards,
LOWA
Oh! Yeah! Huh! MC - Going funky all over your clone baby! |
Lowa
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Posted - 2004.11.08 18:54:00 -
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This is really blowing up lately! And thats good.
The issue is severe enough.
I'll try the relog-thing when I get the chance and
see if it helps me. I dont have that many BM's and
hardly any ppl in address book so that shouldnt effect
me that much but...I'll give it a shot. When I get
back from the UK...and work has slowed down some...
So sometime Q2 2005 I'll have a go.
Regards,
LOWA
Oh! Yeah! Huh! MC - Going funky all over your clone baby! |
SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.11.08 19:55:00 -
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in all honesty that many clients making handshakes with all different clients of diff speeds is gonner lag...
u just cant connect 150 computers to each other and expect them to run smoothly can u?....
nor can u drop the lag compensation so that londeners get a faster lock time than australians..
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.11.08 19:55:00 -
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in all honesty that many clients making handshakes with all different clients of diff speeds is gonner lag...
u just cant connect 150 computers to each other and expect them to run smoothly can u?....
nor can u drop the lag compensation so that londeners get a faster lock time than australians..
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Jakal
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Posted - 2004.11.08 20:17:00 -
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lol, lag is in eve, no matter how big your goup is ive had bad lag in 6v6 battle. we'll see what exodus like when it gets here.
-Adapt and Overcome.
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Jakal
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Posted - 2004.11.08 20:17:00 -
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lol, lag is in eve, no matter how big your goup is ive had bad lag in 6v6 battle. we'll see what exodus like when it gets here.
-Adapt and Overcome.
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.11.08 21:28:00 -
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Erm... like.... We have no honour dude
nice idea tho
Sig Thief
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Woetra
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Posted - 2004.11.08 21:28:00 -
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Erm... like.... We have no honour dude
nice idea tho
Sig Thief
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