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drunken cyno
Caldari Slackers Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.11.26 08:46:00 -
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Caod seems a little boring at this time so thought I would relay a Minor Threat forum post by the alliance leader regarding the space they lost in CR which was giving to them by MM/MH. Wall of text.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rydis: Since beginning my own corp and then this alliance, my personal priority has always been pvp. I love small roaming gangs, big support fleets, battleship fleets, capital fights and back to spec ops type stuff using cloaky ganky ships - small gang tactics. When the original MT corps moved back into this alliance, we did so with the realization that though small, we had some very rare qualities that very few alliances have. We have a leader who is active and communicative, FCs from roaming gangs to capitals and supercapitals and some major assets, though again, small in comparison to some bigger alliances who have taken time to carebear in their own space, whether they were able to do that by being pets or smaller allies to an even bigger powerhouse alliance.
If you want to have ship programs, the ability to replace capitals and get people into capitals, there is no way around it- an alliance needs ISK to get their people into more ships and more capitals for even more fights. How is an isk base achieved? Holding space and/or lots of moons. Post dominion is going to change how alliances make isk. Moons alone will no longer be a reason to hold space and moons alone will not be a viable way to support an alliance. Most of you are aware that with these coming changes, smaller alliances may have certain advantages and holding space will be the key to making isk in itself, not just moons - and space will no longer be managed by ONE alliance holding vast tracts of nullsec.
When the founding corps of MT reconvened into the alliance, we knew we wanted more and had people capable of more than roaming endlessly day in and out. NC wanted someone stuck into those stations in Cloud Ring and we said sure, we will see what happens - if it ends up that we can build something fast enough to hold a system post dominion, it would be cool to play with the mechanics firsthand, as I explained to you in my first alliance address. We were not the first alliance they asked - but everyone said "no" because they were AFRAID of risking losing something and looking bad. Well Minor Threat said **** THAT why the hell not? Who gives a **** what people SAY - because we don't. NC took those systems in our name but as you know, we never moved in - because we did not consider owning space as an end all goal so quickly. It was surely a risky business but it was being offered, and one of the stations we named "GOT THIS **** FO FREE" for a reason. Smiley
Evoke sure wanted that space - that ****ty space that is Cloud Ring. Hahha - enough to alarm clock ops around the clock for days just to kite and RF our towers. They wanted it THAT bad - well they can have it. MT is ONE FIFTH the size of Evoke, we had no losses and sure didn't put much effort into it. We lost the stations but we gained 9 billion isk for the alliance and did not blue up half of eve to do it. I say we did well.
On that note, every alliance around up here has been trying to blue us. I've held firm and refused them. We blued only MM and MH and before we entered this venture, MM agreed that we did not need to blue the entire NC. Rage alliance has cried relentlessly about this since the beginning - though Rage alliance lives 40 jumps from us and MT ran a 9 man gang into their space ONCE. Rage alliance cried over a 9 man gang. I really hope they don't advertise as a PVP alliance. Other alliances blue to MM and MH are up in arms against me because we won't perma- blue them. As you know, I have extended the laurel and given them temp blue standings when we all work together, but reset afterwards. They are now pressuring MH to reset us because we have refused to perma-blue the NC as a whole.
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Yana Pizdah
Minmatar THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY
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Posted - 2009.11.26 08:51:00 -
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\o/
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drunken cyno
Caldari Slackers Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.11.26 08:52:00 -
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We do not want to blue the entire north. We are a PVP alliance. Nothing is worth eliminating targets to shoot. I don't understand why they don't grasp the concept of "friendly neuts" - neutral for fun pvp but with the willingness to help each other out when necessary. MT would cease to exist if it was like one of these alliances who have a blue list a mile long so they can carebear day in and day out with a minimum risk of hostiles in the area. We hope things will never be that calm.
On the other hand, we do realize the value of having longstanding friends. We have reset people based upon two things - betrayal and bull**** behavior. Don't undermine me and don't treat me like dirt. It's pretty simple. Bobby Atlas did that and was reset. COW alliance betrayed my trust and was reset for it. Morsus Mihi has been very good to me and Mostly Harmless, though they did not do much, they have been having internal issues and even well intentioned, they really were unable to affect much. I do not plan to reset MM and MH. I don't play that way. However, Mostly Harmless is under a lot of pressure and crying on their forums from their blues to reset Minor Threat because we keep killing them. If Mostly Harmless decides they must relent and reset us, I am not going to hold that against them. They are just scared and don't want to alienate bigger alliances in their coalition. I understand that. But we will remember these people. Minor Threat is little right now. They are forgetting that sometimes little fish grow up to be big fish and when that happens, they will be remembered.
Minor Threat will continue to be a pvp alliance - we will have solid friends while some come and some may go. I don't give a **** what you think about Goonswarm, but Goonswarm were great friends and allies. TNT is still embittered against Minor Threat for the Goonswarm ally reset in the south we were a part of. Again, TNT just needs someone to point fingers at other than look at themselves and ask why they were reset by everyone in the south.
Minor Threat will NEVER be a helpless and useless ally. We are too proud for that. At this point in our growth yes, we aren't stunningly powerful. But the difference between us and the other guy is that we have COMPETENT and CAPABLE pvpers and FCs and LEADERS. As our numbers continue to grow, everyone knows we will have the power to affect the game. People know this. People fear and hate that which they cannot control and we are absolutely tenacious and refuse to dive into a sea of blues. People talk a mean game and **** posting and smacking is all a part of that. You think people aren't watching us? They are.
That being said, we are going to move into 0.0 and position ourselves smack in the middle of what will be utter CHAOS come dominion. Some alliances are beginning to drop stations in formerly stationless constellations all over eve. We are going to fight our asses off while watching and waiting. Like a black widow poised on an intricate web in the shadows while it nurtures its young and tends the nest, Minor Threat will be taking advantage of these hopeful pioneers of Dominion, as we continue to grow in numbers, collecting their corpses like little birds and lining them all up in a row, taking names.... while we watch and we wait...
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Dah' Khanid
Amarr Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.26 09:38:00 -
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Rydis - the emo Queen of EVE
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Lilly Tigress
Caldari PPN United Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.11.26 09:44:00 -
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failing horribly in stain, moves to scalding pass, failing horribly moves to period basis, failing horribly moves to cloud ring, failing horribly moves to...(insert random region here), failing horribly
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Sage Eveo
Gallente Trojan Trolls Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.11.26 09:50:00 -
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Edited by: Sage Eveo on 26/11/2009 09:50:56 You only fail horribly once you've given up. Much like the real world, things don't always pan out how we'd hope.
Nice post Rydis. Keep at it and best of luck.
// Sage.
Trojan Trolls [TROLL] // Controlled Chaos <TROLL> |
Loike
Caldari Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 09:51:00 -
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You could have chosen a cooler spider than a black widow. They're kinda lame. Nice insight into the NC mentality from within.
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Elaine Threepwood
Minmatar Point Blank. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 09:59:00 -
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9/10 would read again
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Fitz Chivalry
Gallente eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 10:22:00 -
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lo MT o/
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TimMc
Gallente Brutal Deliverance Extreme Prejudice.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Lilly Tigress failing horribly in stain, moves to scalding pass, failing horribly moves to period basis, failing horribly moves to cloud ring, failing horribly moves to...(insert random region here), failing horribly
Sounds like tri.
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Varg Tepes
Caldari Lonetrek trekkers
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Posted - 2009.11.26 10:29:00 -
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So.... Where do i apply to be a part of Minor Threat?
This is the kind of mentality i have been looking for all along. So again.. if someone in MT is recruiting, gimme a link or send this sexy forum-alt a message ingame
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Jebidus Skari
Amarr Comply Or Die Retribution.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lilly Tigress failing horribly in stain, moves to scalding pass, failing horribly moves to period basis, failing horribly moves to cloud ring, failing horribly moves to...(insert random region here), failing horribly
Well they were doing pretty well in Stain actually..But once you start getting political with the big alliances and try to broker deals then your making a rod of your own back.
And lets be honest here, most blues are almost always only temporary anyway! Trouble is you cant be all indepedent one day then be on the side of Atlas and Co and then switch over to NC and get anywhere.
But thought that was a good moral boosting speech! :) but if they make enemies on both sides..well you got nowhere to go..
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drunken cyno
Caldari Slackers Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.11.26 10:36:00 -
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Stay tuned ladies and gents! I will continue to search for lolz on Alliance forums/mails for the readers of CAOD. You might be next
-Mr Sekret
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Teck7
Gallente Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.11.26 10:43:00 -
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This proves that MT is clearly the only PvP alliance in eve.
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Minigin
Caldari Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2009.11.26 10:50:00 -
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rydis knows she loves me <3 . MINIGIN! The original colour poster - now surrounding you in limegreen.
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Young Dorothy
Caldari FoFoFo Monkeys 6oonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.26 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: drunken cyno We do not want to blue the entire north. We are a PVP alliance.
ofc
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Lira Reib
Caldari The 5th Freedom Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: drunken cyno
Like a black widow poised on an intricate web in the shadows while it nurtures its young and tends the nest, Minor Threat will be taking advantage of these hopeful pioneers of Dominion, as we continue to grow in numbers, collecting their corpses like little birds and lining them all up in a row, taking names.... while we watch and we wait...
Well at least it wasn't a chess analogy.
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Endeva
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Endeva on 26/11/2009 11:14:49
Originally by: TimMc
Originally by: Lilly Tigress failing horribly in stain, moves to scalding pass, failing horribly moves to period basis, failing horribly moves to cloud ring, failing horribly moves to...(insert random region here), failing horribly
Sounds like tri.
19.7% !!!!
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Chelou
Gallente Pure Annihilation R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.11.26 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Jebidus Skari
Originally by: Lilly Tigress failing horribly in stain, moves to scalding pass, failing horribly moves to period basis, failing horribly moves to cloud ring, failing horribly moves to...(insert random region here), failing horribly
Well they were doing pretty well in Stain actually..But once you start getting political with the big alliances and try to broker deals then your making a rod of your own back.
What did they done pretty well in stain ? losing caps and moms to SW and POS'es to the romulans ? and after they emo rage and split into Bricksquad , and guess what , Brick ownd them :( ______________
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Souvera Corvus
Gallente SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.11.26 11:23:00 -
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Quote: COW alliance betrayed my trust and was reset for it
Posting in a thread where someone in MT talks about betrayal.
They then go on to talk about Goons of course and what great friends they were.
Well you would wouldn't you?
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Young Dorothy
Caldari FoFoFo Monkeys 6oonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.11.26 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Young Dorothy on 26/11/2009 11:24:34
Originally by: Chelou
What did they done pretty well in stain ? losing caps and moms to SW and POS'es to the romulans ? and after they emo rage and split into Bricksquad , and guess what , Brick ownd them :(
netherless they are still better than 'rage'
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Chelou
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
Originally by: Lilly Tigress failing horribly in stain, moves to scalding pass, failing horribly moves to period basis, failing horribly moves to cloud ring, failing horribly moves to...(insert random region here), failing horribly
Well they were doing pretty well in Stain actually..But once you start getting political with the big alliances and try to broker deals then your making a rod of your own back.
What did they done pretty well in stain ? losing caps and moms to SW and POS'es to the romulans ? and after they emo rage and split into Bricksquad , and guess what , Brick ownd them :(
afaik all the caps lost in stain were havoc.
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Engad Tanon
Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.11.26 11:51:00 -
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ohh lol rydis, get your facts straight and stop lieing.
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Boppi
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2009.11.26 12:08:00 -
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Cool text bro, i totally read all of that.
So will your PROUD AND HONOURABLE PVP-Alliance next move to the east or are already negotiating with MH? They lost some Corps you know. ___________________________
1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr |
Zoon Muidac
Gallente eXceed Inc.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 12:39:00 -
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FFS you guys really have become the laughing stock of eve.
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TedJazuzKristGOD
Caldari R.E.C.O.N. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 12:43:00 -
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i suppose it could be worse. we could have become the laughing stocks of eve and care too.
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BuckStrider
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 12:47:00 -
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We must be doing something right if our tiny little alliance has a spy and a post in our alliance forums makes CAOD.
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BuckStrider
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.11.26 13:04:00 -
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Originally by: Zoon Muidac FFS you guys really have become the laughing stock of eve.
Really? I thought Maru Ka'ge was the laughing stock of eve.
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Achmed Achbar
Gallente The Jamaican Bobsled Team G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2009.11.26 13:34:00 -
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Well put together post - but utter tripe :)
Rydis is cute in RL though.
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XJennieX
Minmatar Children of Gjallarhorn
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Posted - 2009.11.26 14:13:00 -
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only thing Rage was upset was fact that cos MT is blue to MM they were not reported in intel till they were in rage doorstep. it was then asked to get blue standings from them, make them red or if nothing else keeping eye and posting them in intel so that would not happen again. so yea big crying there geez...
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