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Lashnar Caldari New Eden Recon Force	Posted - 2009.11.27 14:39:00 - [1] Okay, so I've always wanted a middle of the line fihgter that was really powerful and wasn't as slow or large as a batleship. So I'm getting a battlecruiser. I want to do some PVP, PVE (I think that means fighting an NPC.) and maybe some pirating. So I'm looking for a fitting that you guys think would be good for all three of those. Preferably one that doesn't require three months of training. I need to train my learning after all. Just assume I have little skills and that all the fnacy modules: Electronic warfare stuff ect. I can't use. Thank you for your replies.. I hope I manage to find something that works. ________________________________________________ If you can see me, no I pose no threat to you. Unless your in an ibis or bantam.
tehSiner Abnormal Experience	Posted - 2009.11.27 14:48:00 - [2] pvp - blasters & shield buffer pve - probably rails & active tank abnormal behavior of abnormal brain makes me normal
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.27 15:04:00 - [3] Something like this for PVP: [Ferox, Blox] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Warrior II x5 Its all T2, but replace with what you can use :). Tho, I suggest getting the hang of PVP in smaller ships first as they are cheaper to loose. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Duchess Starbuckington	Posted - 2009.11.27 16:31:00 - [4] Just get a Drake for missions. That extra 10mil is worth it on so many levels.
Lashnar Caldari New Eden Recon Force	Posted - 2009.11.27 16:38:00 - [5] Edited by: Lashnar on 27/11/2009 16:40:35 Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Something like this for PVP: [Ferox, Blox] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Warrior II x5 Its all T2, but replace with what you can use :). Tho, I suggest getting the hang of PVP in smaller ships first as they are cheaper to loose. I didn't think about the price.. 20 mil is rather difficult to make in a couple of days.. Any Ideas as to PVE? @Duch: Well, thing about the drake is I've already bought the skills. And I believe it is electronic warfare oriented? ________________________________________________ If you can see me, no I pose no threat to you. Unless your in an ibis or bantam.
Cavazos Caldari BlackWater Mercenary's	Posted - 2009.11.27 16:38:00 - [6] [Ferox, Ferox] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 5W Infectious Power System Malfunction Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Hobgoblin II x5 EHP is around 77.6k i use this fit a bit but i prefer drake :)
James Tritanius	Posted - 2009.11.27 17:09:00 - [7] Edited by: James Tritanius on 27/11/2009 17:10:16 Originally by: Lashnar Edited by: Lashnar on 27/11/2009 16:40:35 Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Something like this for PVP: [Ferox, Blox] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Warrior II x5 Its all T2, but replace with what you can use :). Tho, I suggest getting the hang of PVP in smaller ships first as they are cheaper to loose. I didn't think about the price.. 20 mil is rather difficult to make in a couple of days.. Any Ideas as to PVE? @Duch: Well, thing about the drake is I've already bought the skills. And I believe it is electronic warfare oriented? Drakes are not electronic warfare oriented, I don't know what you got that information from. By skills, I'm assuming that you meant you already bought gunnery skills for the Ferox. They should be really cheap anyway (less than 500k for the set?), so that shouldn't be much of a set back if you choose to go for the Drake instead. The Drake is much better than the Ferox in both PvE and PvP, provided that your missile skills is comparable to your gunnery skills. The only reason people use Ferox for pvp purposes is that... well, people underestimate them because they are more frequently fail-fit than Drakes (and also for gunnery-specced players). Since it seems that you are relatively poor and sp deficient, I would keep the battlecruiser for pve only and stick to Merlins and Griffins for pvp.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.27 17:11:00 - [8] Originally by: Lashnar Edited by: Lashnar on 27/11/2009 16:40:35 Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Something like this for PVP: [Ferox, Blox] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Warrior II x5 Its all T2, but replace with what you can use :). Tho, I suggest getting the hang of PVP in smaller ships first as they are cheaper to loose. I didn't think about the price.. 20 mil is rather difficult to make in a couple of days.. Any Ideas as to PVE? @Duch: Well, thing about the drake is I've already bought the skills. And I believe it is electronic warfare oriented? Actually, a Drake is much the same as my Ferox build. But it has more dps and more tank. :) Its 10 mill more pricy, but thats not a whole lot when you take insurance into account. Drake however needs lots of missile skills to really shine. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
James Tritanius	Posted - 2009.11.27 17:15:00 - [9] Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Drake however needs lots of missile skills to really shine. Drake is not special. It needs as much missile skills as other ships with their own primary weapon systems.
Lashnar Caldari New Eden Recon Force	Posted - 2009.11.27 18:03:00 - [10] Originally by: James Tritanius Edited by: James Tritanius on 27/11/2009 17:10:16 Originally by: Lashnar Edited by: Lashnar on 27/11/2009 16:40:35 Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Something like this for PVP: [Ferox, Blox] Damage Control II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Stasis Webifier II Warp Scrambler II Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Heavy Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M Small Energy Neutralizer II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Warrior II x5 Its all T2, but replace with what you can use :). Tho, I suggest getting the hang of PVP in smaller ships first as they are cheaper to loose. I didn't think about the price.. 20 mil is rather difficult to make in a couple of days.. Any Ideas as to PVE? @Duch: Well, thing about the drake is I've already bought the skills. And I believe it is electronic warfare oriented? Drakes are not electronic warfare oriented, I don't know what you got that information from. By skills, I'm assuming that you meant you already bought gunnery skills for the Ferox. They should be really cheap anyway (less than 500k for the set?), so that shouldn't be much of a set back if you choose to go for the Drake instead. The Drake is much better than the Ferox in both PvE and PvP, provided that your missile skills is comparable to your gunnery skills. The only reason people use Ferox for pvp purposes is that... well, people underestimate them because they are more frequently fail-fit than Drakes (and also for gunnery-specced players). Since it seems that you are relatively poor and sp deficient, I would keep the battlecruiser for pve only and stick to Merlins and Griffins for pvp. Maybe I should have been more clear... PVP doesn't happen often in my corp. I more or less want it for PVE. Since drakes are missle oriented.. My missle skills suck. ________________________________________________ If you can see me, no I pose no threat to you. Unless your in an ibis or bantam.
Brent riper Caldari Night Wolves Deprived of Existence by Mercenaries of the Night	Posted - 2009.11.27 18:13:00 - [11] the drake is not EW orientated its pure missile and tank orientated, check outa few of the otehr forum posts about drakes that are in this ships and moduels forum you will find alot of good ideas. if your hell bent on the ferox then yes the above fitting is a good idea. and try to pvp a lil in a moa first if you wanna use guns and a caracal if you want to try missiles they will be cheaper and give you a good basis to learn from. the only ew orientated ships are blackbird and its t2 variants and the scorpion (for caldari that is) AND further more, Carthage must be destroyed!!
Gloria Stitz	Posted - 2009.11.27 18:17:00 - [12] Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington Just get a Drake for missions. That extra 10mil is worth it on so many levels. Quoted for truth. If you are choosing between a ferox and a drake - get a drake. ------------- 'Don't try to learn Eve all at once, otherwise your brain will explode' - Albert Einstein ------------
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.27 18:59:00 - [13] Originally by: James Tritanius Originally by: Sidus Isaacs Drake however needs lots of missile skills to really shine. Drake is not special. It needs as much missile skills as other ships with their own primary weapon systems. Did I say it was special -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Lashnar Caldari New Eden Recon Force	Posted - 2009.11.27 19:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Brent riper Edited by: Brent riper on 27/11/2009 18:24:29 the drake is not EW orientated its pure missile and tank orientated, check outa few of the otehr forum posts about drakes that are in this ships and moduels forum you will find alot of good ideas. if your hell bent on the ferox then yes the above fitting is a good idea. and try to pvp a lil in a moa first if you wanna use guns and a caracal if you want to try missiles they will be cheaper and give you a good basis to learn from. the only ew orientated ships are blackbird and its t2 variants and the scorpion (for caldari that is) EDIT: dam you guys post fast. on another note half of what i said has already been said, but getting the extra isk shouldn't be a problem one u start pve you can rake it in so to speak. give the ferox a shot see what you think and then if you are gonna go pvp try a moa or caraccal first. For PVP I was going to stick with a destroyer. When I ment PVP in a ferox I meant with my corp members in other ships and I'll tank a little. Destroy the big stuff... But mainly PVE. ________________________________________________ If you can see me, no I pose no threat to you. Unless your in an ibis or bantam.
Amalinze Tehkat Out of Order Cult of War	Posted - 2009.11.27 19:22:00 - [15] Edited by: Amalinze Tehkat on 27/11/2009 19:25:12 The Drake is hands down the best BC in the game, bar none, for PVE or PVP. The Ferox is almost never used, because it is worse than all the other T1 BC's (Prophecy doesn't count, it isn't flown.) Train for a drake. You're already caldari, and there's no good reason to be training hybrid skills anyway. *Edit Drake vs. Ferox Drake does more damage, and has selectable damage types (essential for pve) Drake has better tank, and requires absolutely 0 thought to fit. Drake costs 10 mil more Drake is one of the most hideous ship models in the game. Any moron can fly a drake with a minimum of SP and be a PVE machine. Doooo it.
Karl Luckner	Posted - 2009.11.27 19:58:00 - [16] You should really reconsider your skillpath. Skilling hybrid turrets and caldari ships will lead you to a dead end. No Marauder, no dread, no faction ship, nothing. And the ships you get are usually outperformed by their amarrian counterparts. At least, Falcon is now a turret ship \o/.
Sidus Isaacs Gallente	Posted - 2009.11.27 20:57:00 - [17] Originally by: Karl Luckner You should really reconsider your skillpath. Skilling hybrid turrets and caldari ships will lead you to a dead end. No Marauder, no dread, no faction ship, nothing. And the ships you get are usually outperformed by their amarrian counterparts. At least, Falcon is now a turret ship \o/. Well, for fleet action Rokh owns. but thats a whole different PVP aspect :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Duchess Starbuckington	Posted - 2009.11.27 21:15:00 - [18] Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 27/11/2009 21:16:46 Originally by: Karl Luckner You should really reconsider your skillpath. Skilling hybrid turrets and caldari ships will lead you to a dead end. No Marauder, no dread, no faction ship, nothing. And the ships you get are usually outperformed by their amarrian counterparts. At least, Falcon is now a turret ship \o/. This. Hate to say it but you picked the wrong race. The Rokh is a great ship but a huge time investment to really shine as well as a nichT role, while in the meantime you're left for the most part with mediocre Gallente wannabe ships. A Drake with even modest skills will outperform a Ferox to a huge degree. When I got my first Drake my missiles were iffy and the less said about my fit the better, but it steamrollered every level 3 effortlessly. Really, just train missiles or train another race. If you're going heavy on gunnery you could do so much better with Amarr.
Zhilia Mann	Posted - 2009.11.28 01:04:00 - [19] The Ferox really isn't the best ship out there; the Drake is a better platform for almost all uses. But hey, it can still do stuff. The real problem is that it falls into the class of ships that just doesn't perform as well as the alternatives. But if you want to use it, more power to you. I still think it's one of the best-looking hulls in the game. For PvP (requires good fitting and cap skills and absolutely requires T2 guns): [Ferox, blerox 2] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Null M [empty high slot] Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Core Defence Field Extender I For PvE (less intensive but the cap skills are still highly relevant; T2 guns not strictly required): [Ferox, mishin] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Power Diagnostic System II Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M 200mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M [empty high slot] Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Medium Core Defence Field Purger I Hobgoblin II x5 For better or for worse, I still think this is a better PvP fit despite not taking advantage of one of the ship bonuses (and absolutely requires T2 pulses): [Ferox, fmp] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Invulnerability Field II Large Shield Extender II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Large S95a Partial Shield Transporter Medium Core Defence Field Extender I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I (Oh, and put Warrior IIs on either PvP fit. I was just apparently too lazy to do so in EFT. And don't feel bad about dropping the shield transfer on the last one.) Bottom line still remains: get a Drake for easy mode. Ferox really does require quite a bit of investment in order to make it work well. Get those gunnery supports up regardless, though. It will help in the long run.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.11.28 01:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Lashnar I'm getting a ferox. I'm sorry. Originally by: CCP Casqade The forum does not represent anywhere close to 90% of the users. In fact it represents a clear minority of them.
Lashnar Caldari New Eden Recon Force	Posted - 2009.11.28 13:51:00 - [21] Okay, so, I ripped out my EVE fitting tool and selected the Harbinger.. Amarr. It has bonus to lasers. I have the high slots figured out.. Only 85 DPS though.. I've used up one low slot and now I don't know what I should do with the rest of the low slots... It will only take me a couple of skills to train so if you guys have any suggestions on the guns.. I'd like to hear those too. ________________________________________________
Andrea Skye Caldari The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2009.11.28 14:15:00 - [22] Edited by: Andrea Skye on 28/11/2009 14:15:03 Yeh just a small note. You said you thought the drake was a ECM platform. Well i assume you got that from the ship description. Heres a word of advice, never ever ever, listen to the Ship discription. It's hardly accurate, the thing to pay attention to is its bonus's (and even then, sometimes thier wrong :P)
Pax Empyrean	Posted - 2009.11.28 16:17:00 - [23] If you're getting 85 DPS out of a Harbinger, you're doing something really, really wrong.
Duchess Starbuckington	Posted - 2009.11.28 16:29:00 - [24] [Harbinger, PVP FMP] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I Valkyrie II x5 Something like that. I don't fly Harbies but I think that's along the right lines. Would you mind posting the one you had which does a bewildering 85 dps?
Lashnar Caldari New Eden Recon Force	Posted - 2009.11.28 17:01:00 - [25] Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington [Harbinger, PVP FMP] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Damage Control II Adaptive Nano Plating II 10MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Medium 'Gremlin' Power Core Disruptor I Valkyrie II x5 Something like that. I don't fly Harbies but I think that's along the right lines. Would you mind posting the one you had which does a bewildering 85 dps? I got it up to 90 DPS. But here it is. Medium armor repairer. Nothing in the rest of the low slots. 10MN afterburner Medium shield booster Warp disrupter Langour drive salvager the rest of high was filled up with Quad anode particle stream 1 multifrequency I'll outfit your suggestion and see what I get. ________________________________________________
Duchess Starbuckington	Posted - 2009.11.28 17:04:00 - [26] Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 28/11/2009 17:05:47 I'll break this down for you so you can see where it's going wrong: Medium armor repairer. - No. Buffer tank it. Nothing in the rest of the low slots. - Why? 10MN afterburner - No. Use a MWD. Afterburners are worthless Medium shield booster - NO. NEVER try to armour and shield tank at once. Warp disrupter Langour drive salvager Quad anode particle stream 1 multifrequency - Quad lights are horrible. Focused medium pulse IIs at the very least. (And the II part is non negotiable, it's scorch that makes lasers so good.) Seriously, don't even try flying battlecruisers until you know the basics of how to fit a ship. I'd stick to cruisers and frigates for now.
Lashnar Caldari New Eden Recon Force	Posted - 2009.11.28 17:14:00 - [27] Originally by: Duchess Starbuckington Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 28/11/2009 17:05:47 I'll break this down for you so you can see where it's going wrong: Medium armor repairer. - No. Buffer tank it. Nothing in the rest of the low slots. - Why? Answer: That was what I was asking. What I should put there. 10MN afterburner - No. Use a MWD. Afterburners are worthless Medium shield booster - NO. NEVER try to armour and shield tank at once. Warp disrupter Langour drive salvager Quad anode particle stream 1 multifrequency - Quad lights are horrible. Focused medium pulse IIs at the very least. (And the II part is non negotiable, it's scorch that makes lasers so good.) Seriously, don't even try flying battlecruisers until you know the basics of how to fit a ship. I'd stick to cruisers and frigates for now. Yeah, I'm not to good at the fitting thing. I'm trying to learn and thats why I'm here. And not already fitting my ship. ________________________________________________
Drazin DawnTreader Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.11.28 17:42:00 - [28] focus more on training up your fitting skills. You need to be capable of fitting a ship properly before you fly it, otherwise your shiny Battlecruiser is less effective than a rookie ship. Too many times I see people trying to fly bigger ships as fast as they can because they think it automatically makes them better. This is false. Maximize your performance in frigates/cruisers through training and then move up to bigger ships. Also, stick with your caldari training, Engineering/Missiles and fly a Caracal, then drake, then raven as your training progresses. Its better to be awesome in a frigate, than pathetic in a Battleship.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge Important Internet Spaceship League	Posted - 2009.11.28 19:25:00 - [29] Since you need small gun skills before you roll with medium guns... Magnetic field stabilizer II x3 Damage control II 10 mn mwd Scram Web Invulnerability field II 2x large shield extender II 6x light neutron blaster II Medium energy neut (If you're a team player you can train up siege warfare links down the road and put a shield harmonizing link here). 3x core defence field extender 5x warrior II Get your gun support skills all up to at least IV - t2 smalls take less than a week to train up. Very forgiving tank and you will slaughter overconfident af pilots orbiting you at 500m. Then you laugh at killing ships worth more than your ferox. When you max out your skills you'll be surprised to see this setup easily outputs over 400 dps and out tanks many other buffer tank bc! I'm Terrible:) BDEAL Wants YOU
Lashnar Caldari New Eden Recon Force	Posted - 2009.11.28 20:21:00 - [30] Well, I've looked at prices and a battlecruiser is too expensive. So I've out fitted a destroyer. Here it is. Low slots: Damager control II NO MORE LOW SLOTS. Medium slots: Warp disrupter II 1MN Micro warp drive II Small capacitor booster II 200 charges X5 prototype Engine enverator NO MORE MEDIUM SLOTS. High slots: 7 X small gataling pulse laser II Scorch. Salvager. NO MORE HIGH SLOTS. Rigs: 2 X Small ancillary current router I Small energy boost Aerator I So what do you guys think? Is 72 DPS good for a destroyer? ________________________________________________

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