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Vire Amarr
Amarr Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.30 11:25:00 -
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Many people must have seen that in the last patch note changes have been made on the skill required for using covert ops cloaking device tech 2 Before lvl 5 now lvl 4 This is abnormal to change skills required to use such a module. Some bad effect will follow this changes for exemple : 1m sp character able to stay cloaked for ages in a system. Unfare change as usual by CCP !! People have skilled to lvl 5 only to use the cloaking device tech2 and know have a lvl 5 skil that is not worth it , not usefull if people only intend to use the covert ops cloak. I suggest that CCP changes the skill concerning the COCD as follows:
Lvl 1 > allows cloaking device , cloaking time of 5 min Lvl 2 > allows cloaking device , cloaking time of 10min Lvl 3 > allows cloaking device, cloaking time of 15 min Lvl 4 > allows covert ops cloaking device with 20 min cloaking time Lvl 5 > allows covert ops cloaking device with unlimited cloaking time.
Like this people that had skilled to lvl 5 do not ôloose skillsö and it prevents low sp character from having the possibility of staying cloaked for ages in system. So to resume: -No permanent cloak except lvl 5 -Cannot fit covert ops cloak if under lvl 4 This will add a good thing ingame rather than being unfare and help more people to AFK cloak in system, thing that is totally stupid for PVP and PVE. No more HAS/BS à cloaked for ever when chased by gang No more AFKcloak with ships other then black ops or covert ops/ recon/ tech 3 More fun for pvpers
Thanks for reading :)
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Traidor Disloyal
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.11.30 16:04:00 -
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I am not going to read the patch notes because if you are going to complain about something I am going to trust you to place the correct information in your complaint post. Has far has I know, and I have three characters that can use cov ops ships with the Cov Ops Cloaking Device II on them (one for over a year now), you have always only needed cloaking IV to use the device.
Did I misunderstand your post? Or are you really only complaining about afk cloakers? ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |

Captain Mastiff
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Posted - 2009.11.30 16:30:00 -
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He means Electronics level V, Though I think along with Engineering that is the most useful skill in the whole game. I do believe we should be "compensated" for specific trains, my alt had no need to train for electronics V other than for T2 Cloak.
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Traidor Disloyal
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.11.30 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Mastiff He means Electronics level V
Thank you, now I understand. And, yes, it is still very much worth it to train that skill up to level V.
I got over being mad (irritated?) and wanting compensation for skill training when CCP changed the remote sensor damps the day before I finished training for the Gallente Recon ships. ************************************************* I have three characters. One has Cov Ops V along with all the bells and whistles that goes with it. |

darius mclever
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Posted - 2009.11.30 18:55:00 -
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TCF if you want more pvp, how about you undock if people roam through your area and dont just sit in your outposts?
this seems to be another 0.0 carebear want cloak nerf post.
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Vire Amarr
Amarr Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2009.11.30 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: darius mclever TCF if you want more pvp, how about you undock if people roam through your area and dont just sit in your outposts?
this seems to be another 0.0 carebear want cloak nerf post.
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Hello darius,
this is a proposal post not a political or what so even post
I'm saying that ccp will know allow very low sp charactere to have covert ops cloaking device
and that people spent time to train lvl5 and so on.
CCP originally said that it was lvl 5 to limite expension of covert ops cloaking especially concerning very low sp characteres.
I'm not speaking for or about TCF but just bringing a point concerning covert ops
Best regards
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Jonathan Dawnchaser
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.12.01 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vire Amarr I'm saying that ccp will know allow very low sp charactere to have covert ops cloaking device
Cloaking IV (6) requires 271,530 skill points. Electronics V (1) requires 256,000.
Electronics IV vs V is about 210,000 sp.
But that just lets you fit a Covert Ops Cloak. To the proper ship to fit it to requires Covert Ops (Electronics Upgrades V, 512K sp). And all covert ops ships require a racial ship skill at V (for Frigates it is another 512K sp).
Even without factoring Electronics IV (about 48K?), I am still seeing 10 ranks worth of level V. Or about 2.56 million sp. But that is just prereqs (doesn't count Covert Ops I). Not the missile skills to get to Torpedoes and Bomb launchers (or the additional fitting skills to be able to cram that stuff in). Not REQUIRING Electronics V saves about 210,000 sp (or less than 10%).
Now I understand not wanting more stealth bombers drifting through 0.0, but this change isn't going to cause them to sprout out of nowhere either. _____________ JD for CSM4 |
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