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Mag's the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2009.12.01 22:30:00 - [31] I personally thank CCP for making it easier, to decide which ships to fly. Best boost patch ever
Ezekiel Sulastin Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.12.01 22:35:00 - [32] Given that CCP also silently removed the time reduction of Triage Mode, I think we can safely say that the only combat capital that hasn't been shafted by Dominion in some way is, in fact, the Revelation. Amarr Victor? (And while we're talking about it, did capital railguns get the promised 15% boost in the end?)
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.12.01 23:25:00 - [33] Originally by: BIZZAROSTORMY Originally by: Obsidian Hawk To the op and the rest of you complaining about the moros. DID NONE OF YOU READ THE FANFEST NOTES OR WATCH THE VIDEOS???? They announced this 2 months ago. Sorry you were not paying attention to the forums and missed the memo. I mean hey ccp even had a 10 min seg on why they nerfed the moros. Yeah man right on! Personally Ill be looking forward to my fighter bombers and increased turret tracking on dreads in siege that were mentioned in that dev blog that time. and the mothership HP buff! don't forget that! --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
hall vinal	Posted - 2009.12.01 23:29:00 - [34] good, may be you station-camping capital monkeys will fly something else in game for a change
Chris Liath Gallente Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.01 23:33:00 - [35] We Moros pilots did get a railgun and blaster boost, though. But still, it hurts. Badly. "Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
Vadimik Gallente	Posted - 2009.12.01 23:35:00 - [36] Edited by: Vadimik on 01/12/2009 23:35:57 Originally by: hall vinal good, may be you station-camping capital monkeys will fly something else in game for a change Gee, have you been abused by a moros pilot or something? The purpose of this thread is to clarify the change, but somehow you just have to come and tell everyone how evil moros'es can't do that to you anymore.
Serenthris Landry	Posted - 2009.12.01 23:42:00 - [37] 2 pages, Goons poasting 9/10. Pr0!
hall vinal	Posted - 2009.12.02 01:12:00 - [38] try camping a station in a domi ... oh wait, you might just die in that ... you need to be in your insanely tanked fortress a 50% drone damage bonus to gank from safety, how could i forget that
Aylara	Posted - 2009.12.02 10:20:00 - [39] Ah, so you aggroed a Moros on a low-sec station and expected to kill it? Why didn't you just fly away? You tried it in a frig? But sentries would have popped you anyway! PS: next time bump and hotdrop. If you have a blob use it god dammit, don't whine!
Bomberlocks Minmatar Tribal Liberation Force	Posted - 2009.12.02 10:29:00 - [40] Originally by: Graugaard CCP mega nerfed the nagl nerfed the phenx/moros leave the rev Sigh CCP PLAY AMARR! \| \| v - Amarr-online: The game that CCP really wants you to play.

Kateryne Minmatar Nisaba Syndicate New Eden Retail Federation	Posted - 2009.12.02 10:35:00 - [41] To be honest, i've tested the new Nag against the new Moros and Nag wins. The new bonuses and the changed slot layout we got a while back means if you skimp on tank you can get some of the sickets DPS of any dread. And we all know minmatar are glass-cannon scrapheaps, so that's fine by me!
Silver Tongues	Posted - 2009.12.02 11:12:00 - [42] Originally by: Vadimik Edited by: Vadimik on 01/12/2009 23:35:57 Originally by: hall vinal good, may be you station-camping capital monkeys will fly something else in game for a change Gee, have you been abused by a moros pilot or something? The purpose of this thread is to clarify the change, but somehow you just have to come and tell everyone how evil moros'es can't do that to you anymore. Actually, from what I can see from replies here, that this thread is not, in fact, about clarifying a change. People are mad that Moros got changed. Period. If in fact CCP releases a statement saying that it was intentional, people won't stop crying about it. If CCP says that it was a mistake, then said people will freak out until it gets reverted. This thread never has been and most likely never will be about worrying about undocumented changes, only that their stuff got nerfed. /Why yes, I do fly amarr, why do you ask?
Zanaraxtarus	Posted - 2009.12.02 13:57:00 - [43] So, didn't have the fortitude to read through the ENTIRE 2 pages of complaining, but can this thread be summed up as follows: "CCP, stop trying to balance the game!! And for gods sakes, DON'T try to make this a living world with storylines which can be reflected in the ships (and to a certain exetent, in the ships people choose to fly)!!" Deal.. There's a reason for it all... If it turns out to truly be bad for the game (and/or the story), it'll be changed back (or at the least, changed in some other way)... EVE is a game of patience.. If you don't like something, wait...it'll change --Zan--
Brugar	Posted - 2009.12.02 14:03:00 - [44] Why even nerf the Nag? Didn't it already suck in the first place?
Karanth Gallente Independent Fleet	Posted - 2009.12.02 17:07:00 - [45] Originally by: Zanaraxtarus So, didn't have the fortitude to read through the ENTIRE 2 pages of complaining, but can this thread be summed up as follows: "CCP, stop trying to balance the game!! And for gods sakes, DON'T try to make this a living world with storylines which can be reflected in the ships (and to a certain exetent, in the ships people choose to fly)!!" Deal.. There's a reason for it all... If it turns out to truly be bad for the game (and/or the story), it'll be changed back (or at the least, changed in some other way)... EVE is a game of patience.. If you don't like something, wait...it'll change Gonna need a citation here on how a nerf to Moros that isn't in patch notes constitutes balance or something "good for the story" (wtf does this even mean). Grats for not bothering to read the OP either though bro. Originally by: CCP t0rfifrans Sorry, no. You have to go into wormholes and get farmed by the new AI NPCs like everyone else...
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.12.02 17:20:00 - [46] Originally by: Silver Tongues Originally by: Vadimik Edited by: Vadimik on 01/12/2009 23:35:57 Originally by: hall vinal good, may be you station-camping capital monkeys will fly something else in game for a change Gee, have you been abused by a moros pilot or something? The purpose of this thread is to clarify the change, but somehow you just have to come and tell everyone how evil moros'es can't do that to you anymore. Actually, from what I can see from replies here, that this thread is not, in fact, about clarifying a change. People are mad that Moros got changed. Period. If in fact CCP releases a statement saying that it was intentional, people won't stop crying about it. If CCP says that it was a mistake, then said people will freak out until it gets reverted. This thread never has been and most likely never will be about worrying about undocumented changes, only that their stuff got nerfed. /Why yes, I do fly amarr, why do you ask? This pretty much sums up this thread. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
mentalmackem Point Blank. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.12.02 17:22:00 - [47] its only nerfed u intend to sit and play station games with it
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.12.02 17:26:00 - [48] Originally by: Brugar Why even nerf the Nag? Didn't it already suck in the first place? it's kind of like picking on the special kid at school. it's funny because it's wrong
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.02 17:26:00 - [49] Originally by: mentalmackem its only nerfed u intend to sit and play station games with it I agree with the funny looking one.
Vadimik Gallente	Posted - 2009.12.02 17:30:00 - [50] Edited by: Vadimik on 02/12/2009 17:32:11 Edited by: Vadimik on 02/12/2009 17:31:05 Originally by: Silver Tongues Actually, from what I can see from replies here, that this thread is not, in fact, about clarifying a change. People are mad that Moros got changed. Period. If in fact CCP releases a statement saying that it was intentional, people won't stop crying about it. If CCP says that it was a mistake, then said people will freak out until it gets reverted. This thread never has been and most likely never will be about worrying about undocumented changes, only that their stuff got nerfed. Look, whatever this thread seems to be to you, I can assure you that it was intended exactly to clarify, not for whines, feedback or whatever else. And I still want to hear a word for devs on this issue. Really, that's all I want from this thread - a dev response on the status of this change.

DigitalCommunist November Corporation	Posted - 2009.12.02 17:32:00 - [51] Tbh Revelation should always remain the best dreadnaught. I will lament the day Moros becomes good enough to use in any large numbers, the thing is uglier than a grouper fish. DUAL GIGA BEAMS OF ARPING, COOLED BY CAREBEAR TEARS AND CRYSTALIZED MEGALOMANIA FTWTWTW
Obsidian Hawk Free Galactic Enterprises FREGE	Posted - 2009.12.02 17:34:00 - [52] Moros nerf video here, this was mentioned at fan fest, and was seen coming a mile away. Now if you dont like your moros, feel free to contract it to me and emorage quit. Oh and i wont pay for it either since you are quitting eve.
Misaki Yuuko	Posted - 2009.12.02 17:43:00 - [53] Tbh, after some analysis of capital changes: - short range guns still suck balls - all types of large range have been nerfed too - citadel torpedos suck bigtime The days of dreads fighting support fleets are finished,a s it should, they have a bad time shooting anything BS or below, it's still a bit stoopid how you can speedtank torpedos/cruises by doing an "awesome" speed of 88 m/s. But overall don't think the rev is so over.
Megan Maynard Minmatar Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2009.12.02 17:45:00 - [54] Rev is the easiest to cap out or does that not matter? Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Stareatthesun No no no ... Polaris is where CCP keeps the death star that will destroy eve when the servers shut down. Thankfully I've got Interceptors trained to V. S
Trent Nichols Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.02 20:16:00 - [55] Originally by: I SoStoned Ahhhh, your tears are Epic. Epic! No more station camping Moros in lowsec attacking you with Ogre IIs dealing fighter damage. So after all the forum rage people still haven't noticed that the problem was never Moros's drone bonus, it was docking games. I guess removing what made the Moros unique was easier than implementing a reasonably long docking timer for aggroed capitals. Colonies and Capitals
fuze Gallente Quam Singulari	Posted - 2009.12.02 20:25:00 - [56] Originally by: Trent Nichols So after all the forum rage people still haven't noticed that the problem was never Moros's drone bonus, it was docking games. I guess removing what made the Moros unique was easier than implementing a reasonably long docking timer for aggroed capitals. Shhhhs.... CCP want's you to forget about it and in their upcoming update they will have implemented it and announce that they came up with that idea themselves. Just like the bulk of the other changes.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2009.12.02 20:41:00 - [57] Originally by: Brugar Why even nerf the Nag? Didn't it already suck in the first place? because it would become OP with the proj changes. and it must be true, afteral it was nohz who said it. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Von Stickypants	Posted - 2009.12.02 20:48:00 - [58] I remember reading about the change in devblogs and people *****ing about the nerf then. It was mentioned, it happened, get over it.
Windjammer Gallente	Posted - 2009.12.02 21:39:00 - [59] No explanation has been given. You won't find it because it does not exist. Even when they get around to explaining it, and they might not, it'll just be a spin doctoring which will amount to one thing. "We (CCP) can do it. We did it and there's nothing you can say that will convince us to undo it. Deal with it. We just don't care." Having followed this on the test server I can tell you the following. The Moros was showing as having a 50% boost to drones only when in siege mode. On Tranquility, pre-Dominion release, it was a bonus that applied in any mode. A couple days before the Dominion release, the Moros suddenly showed a 20% bonus to drones. It's assumed that this bonus will apply in either siege or non-siege modes. No explanation, no notes, no warning, no nothing = no chance for CCP to run through the flames of objection prior to gutting another ship with the nerf knife.
Vadimik Gallente	Posted - 2009.12.03 10:35:00 - [60] Edited by: Vadimik on 03/12/2009 10:36:43 Originally by: Von Stickypants I remember reading about the change in devblogs and people ****ing about the nerf then. It was mentioned, it happened, get over it. If that is indeed the case, why haven't the changes been mentioned in patch notes, why no answer was given when this very question was asked, repeatedly (after they published patch notes but before TQ itself was patched)? Why hasn't it been added to pacth notes after* it hit TQ in dominion and why no answer is still given (in this very thread, among other places)? Sure if everything is that simple, it's a matter of several minutes to alter the patch notes and post a short reply here that everything was "patched as intended".



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