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Ralus
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Posted - 2004.11.10 15:16:00 -
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I'm a relavive noob to eve, having got in with a good corp i'm now flying a ospray, but am bored of mining and looking for something a bit more exiting, so am saving for a caracal.
I'm wondering whats best to fit it with, and what skills (i've got the basics, missle launcher shield operation etc... but nothing fancy) should I be learning for some big rat hunting, maybe a little pvp too.
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Ralus
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Posted - 2004.11.10 15:16:00 -
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I'm a relavive noob to eve, having got in with a good corp i'm now flying a ospray, but am bored of mining and looking for something a bit more exiting, so am saving for a caracal.
I'm wondering whats best to fit it with, and what skills (i've got the basics, missle launcher shield operation etc... but nothing fancy) should I be learning for some big rat hunting, maybe a little pvp too.
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Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.11.10 15:32:00 -
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This is the setup i run for lvl3 agents and it works pretty good, very fast.
High:5xHeavy Launchers
Medium:1xLarge Capacitor Battery
1xMedium c5-l(medium tech2 would be better)
1x10mn MWD
1xCap Recharger
Low:2xCo-Processor I
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Nash Winters
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Posted - 2004.11.10 15:32:00 -
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This is the setup i run for lvl3 agents and it works pretty good, very fast.
High:5xHeavy Launchers
Medium:1xLarge Capacitor Battery
1xMedium c5-l(medium tech2 would be better)
1x10mn MWD
1xCap Recharger
Low:2xCo-Processor I
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DrXpBlondie
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Posted - 2004.11.10 15:54:00 -
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My setup for lvl 3 mission running is -
Hi slots
5 * malkuth heavy launchers (low cpu usage)
Med Slots
1 * med sheild booster II
1 * 10 MN ab II
2 * med sheild extender II
Lo Slots
1 * ballistic control
1 * CPU enhancer II
This is pretty CPU entensive (leaves only 2 free CPU points), so you will need high CPU usage skills (I have weapons upgrade lvl 5 for example) or swap something.
It makes missions very easy, you just need to be a bit more careful in multiple spawn levels.
As for pvp setup, it really depends on what type of ship you are going after, what support you have etc. there is no right answer there.
If you are going to stick with caracal for a while (and I would recommend it), I would train missile launcher operations high, and heavy missiles high, plus anything that helps with shields and speed.
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DrXpBlondie
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Posted - 2004.11.10 15:54:00 -
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My setup for lvl 3 mission running is -
Hi slots
5 * malkuth heavy launchers (low cpu usage)
Med Slots
1 * med sheild booster II
1 * 10 MN ab II
2 * med sheild extender II
Lo Slots
1 * ballistic control
1 * CPU enhancer II
This is pretty CPU entensive (leaves only 2 free CPU points), so you will need high CPU usage skills (I have weapons upgrade lvl 5 for example) or swap something.
It makes missions very easy, you just need to be a bit more careful in multiple spawn levels.
As for pvp setup, it really depends on what type of ship you are going after, what support you have etc. there is no right answer there.
If you are going to stick with caracal for a while (and I would recommend it), I would train missile launcher operations high, and heavy missiles high, plus anything that helps with shields and speed.
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.11.10 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Steele on 10/11/2004 16:49:16
My agenting setup was something like
Highs
3x Limos heavy launchers (fast refire rate)
2x Arbalest heavys (very fast refire rate waiting to find more heavy launchers)
+lots of scourge missiles
Meds
1xMed Shield Rep
1xMed Cap Booster (the ones that use charges)
1xMWD
1xShield Hardner (EM)
lows
Balistic Mod
CPU unit II
The cap charges means you can run out of range or tank for a bit longer if under heavy fire and your cap gets drained.
Death to the Galante |
Jim Steele
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Posted - 2004.11.10 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Steele on 10/11/2004 16:49:16
My agenting setup was something like
Highs
3x Limos heavy launchers (fast refire rate)
2x Arbalest heavys (very fast refire rate waiting to find more heavy launchers)
+lots of scourge missiles
Meds
1xMed Shield Rep
1xMed Cap Booster (the ones that use charges)
1xMWD
1xShield Hardner (EM)
lows
Balistic Mod
CPU unit II
The cap charges means you can run out of range or tank for a bit longer if under heavy fire and your cap gets drained.
Death to the Galante |
David Goodwill
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Posted - 2004.11.10 16:54:00 -
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Caracals are easy, heavy launchers in high with kinetic missiles, shield booster and hardners in med (maybe a MWD or afterburner if you cant stand the *chug* *chug*), Ballistic in low. 
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Mating call of a pirate...
"rarrggghhh, omg r0x0r, ph34r meeeee"
Average age: 12..  |
David Goodwill
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Posted - 2004.11.10 16:54:00 -
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Caracals are easy, heavy launchers in high with kinetic missiles, shield booster and hardners in med (maybe a MWD or afterburner if you cant stand the *chug* *chug*), Ballistic in low.
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Mating call of a pirate...
"rarrggghhh, omg r0x0r, ph34r meeeee"
Average age: 12.. |
Attiladehun
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Posted - 2004.11.10 17:18:00 -
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high: 5x arbalest
med: 1hardener, 1T2 medium shield booster, 1 mwd, 1 cap recharger
low: cpu, psu
Not that high needed skills, use this for lvl3 too.
And i am only playing 2 months so it should fit easy, only the low can be adapted.
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Attiladehun
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Posted - 2004.11.10 17:18:00 -
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high: 5x arbalest
med: 1hardener, 1T2 medium shield booster, 1 mwd, 1 cap recharger
low: cpu, psu
Not that high needed skills, use this for lvl3 too.
And i am only playing 2 months so it should fit easy, only the low can be adapted.
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Krulla
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Posted - 2004.11.10 17:24:00 -
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Easy on the tech II stuff and arbalests. The guy said he was new to eve. No way he has access to named or can afford or use the TII stuff.
Here's a pretty basic caracal setup.
5x heavy missile launchers with scourges (you get a damage bonus to scourges)
1x 10mn MWD
1x Medium shield booster.
2x Medium shield extender
I'm not sure about lows, you probably need 1 or 2 co pros.
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Krulla
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Posted - 2004.11.10 17:24:00 -
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Easy on the tech II stuff and arbalests. The guy said he was new to eve. No way he has access to named or can afford or use the TII stuff.
Here's a pretty basic caracal setup.
5x heavy missile launchers with scourges (you get a damage bonus to scourges)
1x 10mn MWD
1x Medium shield booster.
2x Medium shield extender
I'm not sure about lows, you probably need 1 or 2 co pros.
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Otwo Ihe
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Posted - 2004.11.10 17:51:00 -
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whats wrong with you people? you dont need any of that crap to do lvl 3 missions...
and you hardly need anys skillpoints either
heres what i use
high: 5 heavies of your choice
med: 10mn mwd and cap recharges
low: cap relays
warp in at 60km, orbit at 50-55km and just start spamming your scourge missiles...
at that range no npc will ever hit you (well, it do happends sometimes, like one in a milion) and missiles cant catch up with you either... yea yea, i know that its hard to get the caracal up to good speed, but at that range that wont matter =p
anyways, just keep your distance
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Otwo Ihe
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Posted - 2004.11.10 17:51:00 -
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whats wrong with you people? you dont need any of that crap to do lvl 3 missions...
and you hardly need anys skillpoints either
heres what i use
high: 5 heavies of your choice
med: 10mn mwd and cap recharges
low: cap relays
warp in at 60km, orbit at 50-55km and just start spamming your scourge missiles...
at that range no npc will ever hit you (well, it do happends sometimes, like one in a milion) and missiles cant catch up with you either... yea yea, i know that its hard to get the caracal up to good speed, but at that range that wont matter =p
anyways, just keep your distance
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Ralus
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Posted - 2004.11.10 19:10:00 -
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lol i'll remember that one,
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Ralus
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Posted - 2004.11.10 19:10:00 -
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lol i'll remember that one,
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DrXpBlondie
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Posted - 2004.11.10 19:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Otwo Ihe
whats wrong with you people? you dont need any of that crap to do lvl 3 missions...
and you hardly need anys skillpoints either
heres what i use
Certainly, you don't need any particular setup. In fact, you could do most, if not all, lvl 3 missions in a kestrel if you wanted, but that wasn't the question, it was what is a good setup. I like my setup because with the sheilds it gives you a nice buffer zone - I virtually never need to warp out (and only when I am not paying attention. It also means that I can start loot collecting before I take out all the ship, knowing my sheilds will last longer than the npc ships.
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DrXpBlondie
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Posted - 2004.11.10 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Otwo Ihe
whats wrong with you people? you dont need any of that crap to do lvl 3 missions...
and you hardly need anys skillpoints either
heres what i use
Certainly, you don't need any particular setup. In fact, you could do most, if not all, lvl 3 missions in a kestrel if you wanted, but that wasn't the question, it was what is a good setup. I like my setup because with the sheilds it gives you a nice buffer zone - I virtually never need to warp out (and only when I am not paying attention. It also means that I can start loot collecting before I take out all the ship, knowing my sheilds will last longer than the npc ships.
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Destin Tyr
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Posted - 2004.11.10 20:09:00 -
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The only things I would add are run 1 standard launcher with defenders if you are going after missile using rats like Guristas. That would make 4xheavy launchers with Scourge missiles, and 1 standard with defenders. Train up that Caldari cruiser skill, as you get 5% damage boost per level to kinetic (scourge) missiles.
Also, if you have the skills and can fit it, a ballistic mod (improves ROF) in a low slot is good on the Caracal.
I use my Caracal for level 3 agent missions, and havn't lost it to NPC pirates yet.
-In space, no one can hear you whine |
Destin Tyr
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Posted - 2004.11.10 20:09:00 -
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The only things I would add are run 1 standard launcher with defenders if you are going after missile using rats like Guristas. That would make 4xheavy launchers with Scourge missiles, and 1 standard with defenders. Train up that Caldari cruiser skill, as you get 5% damage boost per level to kinetic (scourge) missiles.
Also, if you have the skills and can fit it, a ballistic mod (improves ROF) in a low slot is good on the Caracal.
I use my Caracal for level 3 agent missions, and havn't lost it to NPC pirates yet.
-In space, no one can hear you whine |
Otwo Ihe
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Posted - 2004.11.10 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: DrXpBlondie
Originally by: Otwo Ihe
whats wrong with you people? you dont need any of that crap to do lvl 3 missions...
and you hardly need anys skillpoints either
heres what i use
Certainly, you don't need any particular setup. In fact, you could do most, if not all, lvl 3 missions in a kestrel if you wanted, but that wasn't the question, it was what is a good setup. I like my setup because with the sheilds it gives you a nice buffer zone - I virtually never need to warp out (and only when I am not paying attention. It also means that I can start loot collecting before I take out all the ship, knowing my sheilds will last longer than the npc ships.
yea im sorry about that, didnt mean to sound like a smartass... im having a ****y day. 
what i really ment to say was,
this is a really cheap and very effective setup for a caracal doing lvl 3 missions and its very easy to use.
warp in, orbit, fire, repeat. but as you say, with this setup you have to kill all the rats to collect the loot so its probably not a setup that lets you do lvl 3 as fast as possible. But i like it because it lets me stay way out of range of the rats while doing a really good damage.
anyways, thats my 2isk 
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Otwo Ihe
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Posted - 2004.11.10 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: DrXpBlondie
Originally by: Otwo Ihe
whats wrong with you people? you dont need any of that crap to do lvl 3 missions...
and you hardly need anys skillpoints either
heres what i use
Certainly, you don't need any particular setup. In fact, you could do most, if not all, lvl 3 missions in a kestrel if you wanted, but that wasn't the question, it was what is a good setup. I like my setup because with the sheilds it gives you a nice buffer zone - I virtually never need to warp out (and only when I am not paying attention. It also means that I can start loot collecting before I take out all the ship, knowing my sheilds will last longer than the npc ships.
yea im sorry about that, didnt mean to sound like a smartass... im having a ****y day.
what i really ment to say was,
this is a really cheap and very effective setup for a caracal doing lvl 3 missions and its very easy to use.
warp in, orbit, fire, repeat. but as you say, with this setup you have to kill all the rats to collect the loot so its probably not a setup that lets you do lvl 3 as fast as possible. But i like it because it lets me stay way out of range of the rats while doing a really good damage.
anyways, thats my 2isk
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DrXpBlondie
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Otwo Ihe
yea im sorry about that, didnt mean to sound like a smartass... im having a ****y day.
Damn, and I thought we where going to have a good old fashioned flame war ;)
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DrXpBlondie
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Otwo Ihe
yea im sorry about that, didnt mean to sound like a smartass... im having a ****y day.
Damn, and I thought we where going to have a good old fashioned flame war ;)
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DrXpBlondie
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Posted - 2004.11.11 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: DrXpBlondie on 11/11/2004 21:46:32
removing dup post (damn silly browser)
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DrXpBlondie
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Posted - 2004.11.11 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: DrXpBlondie on 11/11/2004 21:46:32
removing dup post (damn silly browser)
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Gairon Fay
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Posted - 2004.11.12 00:07:00 -
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I prefer a more Cap charging outfit.
Heavy:
3*XR Launchers
2* Limos
Med:
1*10 MWD
1* Med Neutron Saturation Booster
2* Industrial Cap rechargers
Low:
2* BCS
This allows me to run the shield charger almost continuosly, and still enough to use the MWD should the need arise.
Works like a charm on lvl 3.
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From the Shadows, he watches...
It¦s safer there.
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Gairon Fay
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Posted - 2004.11.12 00:07:00 -
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I prefer a more Cap charging outfit.
Heavy:
3*XR Launchers
2* Limos
Med:
1*10 MWD
1* Med Neutron Saturation Booster
2* Industrial Cap rechargers
Low:
2* BCS
This allows me to run the shield charger almost continuosly, and still enough to use the MWD should the need arise.
Works like a charm on lvl 3.
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From the Shadows, he watches...
It¦s safer there.
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