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Nocts
Minmatar
Vanguard Wing
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Posted - 2009.12.02 17:53:00 -
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I've considered deploying a small or medium PoS in high-sec but I can't for the life of me provide a valid reason since stations are going to provide me with everything needed.
Why do people put PoSes in high-sec, what should I expect while keeping one there, and what are the unseen benefits?
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Zifrian
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Posted - 2009.12.02 17:54:00 -
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Research stations mainly. Some use them in systems without stations for staging mining ops and such.
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Taelech
Caldari
Caldari Design and Cryogenics
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Posted - 2009.12.02 18:04:00 -
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Slots. Research on demand is the prime reason.
Taelech - Professor emeritus - Caldari Business Tribunal School of Law
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Nocts
Minmatar
Vanguard Wing
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Posted - 2009.12.02 18:14:00 -
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Excellent. Is there a time/efficiency difference between PoS researching and station researching (assuming free slots on both)? Also, how can I make the PoS just as efficient as a station regarding reprocessing?
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Wyehr
Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2009.12.02 18:24:00 -
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I think that POS labs are faster, but the real benefit is that they aren't public. All public labs slots have had multiweek queues for years.
POS refineries aren't as good as station refineries, and never will be. They are intended for those times when station refining isn't available.
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LHA Tarawa
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Posted - 2009.12.02 23:15:00 -
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 Originally by: Nocts
Excellent. Is there a time/efficiency difference between PoS researching and station researching (assuming free slots on both)? Also, how can I make the PoS just as efficient as a station regarding reprocessing?
The availability IS the difference. The shortest queue I could find high-sec at a public lab was 50+ days. Low-sec I couldn't find anything under 2 weeks, and I really don't want to drag many, many millions ISk worth of BPOs out to low-sec.
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Fearr Dorchaa
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Posted - 2009.12.03 01:05:00 -
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want a high sec pos? - come talk to me, best prices in game :)
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1215326
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Letrange
Minmatar
Chaosstorm Corporation
Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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Posted - 2009.12.03 18:50:00 -
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Edited by: Letrange on 03/12/2009 18:52:54
research (availability and speed)
manufacturing (speed)
bait (to get greifers to wardec the pos corp then bring it into the alliance and get a war on the cheap :P)
Also on a fully used POS the costs can actually be lower than those slow occupied high sec slots. The big issue is making sure it's slots are used 24/24 (not necessarily the invention slots but all 7 other per standard lab)
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SetrakDark
Caldari
DarkCorp Technology and Finance
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Posted - 2009.12.03 20:37:00 -
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Chicks.
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Lockefox
Caldari
LEGION OF PROFESSOR CHAOS
Darkmatter Initiative
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Posted - 2009.12.03 22:53:00 -
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POS's in high sec are basically private industry platforms. In my corp we almost all of our jobs through POS labs.
Why get your own POS?
-No research lines. Don't have to wait for a free slot, they are private
-Better research/build times. Most POS mods provide a .75 time modifier for building and researching. Big jobs take that much less to do*
-A base you don't have to dock at. You can drop mining loads at the POS and not have to dock/undock
Drawbacks:
-Expensive. Fuel can cost upwards of 130m/month to keep everything online. Mods are also expensive
-Vulnerable. Where you're safe inside an NPC station, your POS can be attacked when at war.
*=t2 ship build arrays take longer to build at than NPC stations
That's the basics.
~Locke
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Mal Lokrano
Gallente
Delve Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.05 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Fearr Dorchaa
want a high sec pos? - come talk to me, best prices in game :)
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1215326
Yeah high sec POSs require very good factional standings (5.00 for 0.5, 6.00 for 0.6 etc) so you'll either need to have your own, grind your own, or use services like above.
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Posted - 2009.12.05 03:25:00 -
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bottom line: Look at what people are selling that makes money: if you can do it with a POS then YOU make the money.
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.05 04:15:00 -
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T2 & T3 Manufacuring, Research.
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Phoebus ApolloX
Reasonable People
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Posted - 2009.12.08 08:53:00 -
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Things to do:
Copy slots (most npc stations have a 2-3 day wait time on copying queues, that's bad for people serious about doing invention)
ME research (try waiting two weeks to a month at most npc stations for this service, very valuable for people serious about producing things)
Reverse engineering (only way to do it is via a POS module)
Subsystem construction (can't be done in a station to my understanding)
And maybe a type-specific assembly array to get a speed bonus on doing manufacturing if you have a lot of it to do. Remember you can anchor more than you need and just online arrays as you use them.
As for reverse engineering and subsystem construction, you could do that in the wormhole POS you likely set up to get the materials collected in the first place, but I'd suggest anyone doing t3 construction should do as much as they possibly can outside the wormhole to reduce the logistical demands on the in-wormhole operations.
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Charles Javeroux
Gallente
INTERSTELLAR CREDIT
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Phoebus ApolloX
Things to do:
Copy slots (most npc stations have a 2-3 day wait time on copying queues, that's bad for people serious about doing invention)
ME research (try waiting two weeks to a month at most npc stations for this service, very valuable for people serious about producing things)
Reverse engineering (only way to do it is via a POS module)
Subsystem construction (can't be done in a station to my understanding)
And maybe a type-specific assembly array to get a speed bonus on doing manufacturing if you have a lot of it to do. Remember you can anchor more than you need and just online arrays as you use them.
As for reverse engineering and subsystem construction, you could do that in the wormhole POS you likely set up to get the materials collected in the first place, but I'd suggest anyone doing t3 construction should do as much as they possibly can outside the wormhole to reduce the logistical demands on the in-wormhole operations.
In addition, the POS copy labs are able to produce more copies on blueprints than their NPC counterparts. At the T3 construction, besides the subsystem, also the T3 hulls come from the same array.
Originally by: Orek Fear
I guess the ultimate solution to inflation in EVE turned out to be an NPC stripper...
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