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Flawliss
Gallente
Pilots of True Potential
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Posted - 2009.12.03 02:36:00 -
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I searched and could not find a CSM post on this topic
I would like to Propose for further discussion the Battle recorder. I forward ninjaholic's thread in features thread as it contains all the information needed.
Battle recorder
A summary:
A battle recorder that retains info on ship actions, modules etc, that does not record audio and video itself, but reproduces it within an eve client or similar program (if eve client itself can not be rigged (pun) to do this. )
I request the CSM and all interested in such a recorder to throw their support behind this, and please encourage CCP to place this firmly on their develpment future
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T'Amber
ships of eve
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Posted - 2009.12.03 04:41:00 -
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This is a good idea and if it could be done without massive server overloading it would be a very useful tool, for newscasts or for movie making. The ability to view a battle from any view and full camera movements would be uber. It was on my agenga but as I haven't managed to make it into the CSM we will have to find someone to support this idea for us if it could be viable.
-T'amber
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:50:00 -
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Definitely.
That feature is pretty standard for the arena type FPS games. No additional server strain as it can be done entirely client side. The entire scene can be (re)constructed with the data sent from/to the server, so only this needs to be recorded to a file. The biggest effort would be the creation of a player for those files. Add controls for advanced camera movement + scripting, as well as the ability to render frames to file... that would be moviemakers dream :)
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Seth Ruin
Ominous Corp
Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.12.04 10:55:00 -
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Definitely like the idea. Less overhead than fraps or other screen-capture tools. Theoretically, it should be relatively easy to implement too.
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Neu Bastian
Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2009.12.04 15:26:00 -
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Suppoerted only IF it doesn't add to lag.
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Neu Bastian
Valklear Guard - CEO
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Alekseyev Karrde
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Posted - 2009.12.07 16:19:00 -
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Very intreguing feature. FRAPS adds lag to a degree which comprimises PVP performance on many people's machines. If this can be done in-client without a similar drawback, I think the benefits to the player base (especially us CEO types) and CCP's marketing efforts would be worthwhile.
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ceaon
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Posted - 2009.12.25 12:32:00 -
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Orb Vex
THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2009.12.25 14:11:00 -
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Elias Genvalo
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Posted - 2009.12.26 04:38:00 -
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Do want.
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Lord EPIon
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Posted - 2009.12.31 20:34:00 -
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bump
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Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.01.02 04:35:00 -
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As long as it's sufficiently lightweight/easy to code, this seems like a good plan.
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De'Veldrin
Special Projects Executive
The Obsidian Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.02 04:42:00 -
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Hell yes.
--Vel
In the world of emoticons, I was colon capital d. |
Aenemah
Nocturne Rouge
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Posted - 2010.01.02 18:50:00 -
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Supported,
It should be a local tool any player can choose to run while flying
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Veni, Vidi, Warpi.
I came, I saw, I warped the hell out... |
Pasus Nauran
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Posted - 2010.01.02 22:05:00 -
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A good suggestion. This is something that would be of great benefit to the community.
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elimuhn8v2
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Posted - 2010.01.02 23:21:00 -
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Support.
I like that function in halo3, and i would like it in eve |
Sepheir Sepheron
BAHRAM Military
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Posted - 2010.01.03 07:58:00 -
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So much win...
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Taudia
Sane Industries Inc.
Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.01.03 13:34:00 -
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Do you have any idea how awesome eve videos would become if this was implemented?
/support
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Nimits
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Posted - 2010.01.04 06:22:00 -
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I also believe that this would be in CCP's interrest in terms of getting more players, and more player satisfaction.
One of the things that make my hairs stand, is watching awesome EVE videos (wish evetube came back)
Videos for recruitment, videos to show how awesome our game really is, videos that make people feel as part of the eve community!
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Cearain
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Posted - 2010.01.04 21:49:00 -
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ninjaholic
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.02.22 04:04:00 -
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Well kick my cats I just found this thread. \o/
Support EVE's own IN-GAME fight record tool! or Do the 1 minute Eve Poll |
Cowardly Alt
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Posted - 2010.02.22 19:29:00 -
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Note to CCP: your customer base's e-peen flexing tendencies, combined with this proposed feature, will create more effective advertising in the form of glorified pewpew than any number of Butterfly Effect vids ever could. 
/supported
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Maxsim Goratiev
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.22 19:51:00 -
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yes
Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.StevieSG |
Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.02.22 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Bagehi on 22/02/2010 19:51:44
This doesn't kill fraps either. In fact, it would allow for even more interesting movies to be made (after the fact) of major battles. I would do a happy dance.
EDIT: support.
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Aion Morpheus
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Posted - 2010.02.22 21:06:00 -
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Jin Nib
Resplendent Knives
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Posted - 2010.02.22 21:12:00 -
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-Jin Nib
Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since:
2009.03.02 03:53:00
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Garr Anders
Thukk U
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Posted - 2010.02.23 11:49:00 -
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Supported.
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Garr Anders
"The only winning move is not to play" is about the best damn advice anyone can get regarding arguing over the internet.
- referring to the Movie WarGames 1983
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Zommari Jiruga
Security Status Negative
Cookie Nation
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Posted - 2010.02.23 13:23:00 -
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Lord Helghast
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Posted - 2010.02.25 13:08:00 -
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Please god this would be epic.
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Skanthra
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Posted - 2010.02.25 13:17:00 -
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110% yes!
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SupaKudoRio
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Posted - 2010.02.25 14:23:00 -
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Throw in camera tools and we have a winner.
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10/10: Where is your God now? |
Boomershoot
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.02.25 14:28:00 -
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Replays? in MY EVE?
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Kronsur Boon
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Posted - 2010.02.25 14:44:00 -
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When you're shooting people in the face, you don't have time to look at the nice explosions. This feature will would be great to watch, savour, and share those awesome eve moments. 
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Liol Wongsta
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.02.25 14:46:00 -
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oooh yeah.
Supporting this one for sure.
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Orogaldeo
Viziam
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Posted - 2010.02.25 14:48:00 -
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Oh noes, now everybody will clearly see i am going around without pants 
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Verys
Burning Technologies
Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.02.25 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Verys on 25/02/2010 16:17:18
Interesting, this would also allow people to render a movie in higher quality which would normally cause too much lag too run in a big pvp battle. I like it.
Add drone repair bays to carriers |
Gizan
Gods Killing Machines
Ihatalo Cartel Navy
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Posted - 2010.02.26 07:21:00 -
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+1 The game Tibia has a similar type of thing for the game, which records keystorkes, conversations and everything. its a good thing to look at, but it does cause some client side lag for the "recorder"
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ninjaholic
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.03.01 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gizan
+1 The game Tibia has a similar type of thing for the game, which records keystorkes, conversations and everything. its a good thing to look at, but it does cause some client side lag for the "recorder"
I'm sure that the recording tool would add 'some' extra load to a CPU but for most systems able to run EVE now, I believe it will be a barely noticeable feature. To be honest, it does depend entirely on how much information really needs to be processed. And isn't all this information already cached or loaded somewhere? Shouldn't be any major task to get this into a data file for later retrieval. But I could be biased, and seeing it from one angle. 
Only one way to know for sure. Get one of the developers to talk to the code monkeys about it, and give us that feedback! They would know more than anyone else how much extra strain on the client this would place, if any at all!
Support EVE's own IN-GAME fight record tool! or Do the 60 sec Eve Poll
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Dynamix Boon
Cold Steel Inc.
Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2010.03.01 09:41:00 -
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CCP recently posted a tweet asking if people recorded their eve battles. I'm sure I'm not the only person who would if they could.
Hopefully, a battle recorder would be far less demanding on CPU than running a capture utility like fraps. Additionally, I hope you would be able to play eve in low detail (important for fleet fights) and then later playback the battle, with the battleplayer, in awesome high detail. |
Wikis
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Posted - 2010.03.01 17:37:00 -
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yes
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Presidente Gallente
Dark-Rising
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Presidente Gallente on 02/03/2010 09:19:47
The basic Battle Recorder doesn't need much.
Just recording the script what allows to edit that with a camera tool and client playback.
Export to AVI uncompressed or as a pic sequence with a separate audio file. Period.
The top future feature could be a post-renderer for movies in breathtaking cinematics quality with advanced shader effects and visual effects, super-hi-res textures and incredible model details.
The usual CCP promo-videos show that there must still existing a recorder tool.
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.03.02 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: Presidente Gallente
usual CCP promo-videos show that there must still existing some kind of a recorder tool.
Yup, they have a similar dev tool already.
Read the CSM4 minutes for more infomation (This thread and others of the same/ similar topic were put forward recently for CCP to have a look at).
-T'amber
www.shipsofeve.com/soe5
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Ilik Tanikalot
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Posted - 2010.03.02 13:23:00 -
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Grwat idea.
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ninjaholic
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.03.02 14:12:00 -
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Edited by: ninjaholic on 02/03/2010 14:13:38
Quote:
The CSM inquired about the possibility of a battle recorder, a tool that stores the data stream from the
server which would enable re-rendering of events and therefore help with videos. CCP explained that
this is technically possible and actually exists as an in-house tool. However, quite a bit of development
time is needed in order to release it to players. Itęs therefore a question of prioritization.
From: http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_02_2010.pdf, page 14, paragraph 2.
Words fail me for how truely awesome this is! This implies that it is indeed planned to release this tool to the players!
Support EVE's own IN-GAME fight record tool! or Do the 60 sec Eve Poll
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T'Amber
www.shipsofeve.com
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Posted - 2010.03.02 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Verys
Edited by: Verys on 25/02/2010 16:17:18
Interesting, this would also allow people to render a movie in higher quality which would normally cause too much lag too run in a big pvp battle. I like it.
TBH, this would save me about a year worth + render time making the video I'm working on. I'd just need to figure out how to manually script the ships and battles :|
-T'amber
www.shipsofeve.com/soe5
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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.03.02 17:35:00 -
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On one hand I love watching EVE movies and a 'battle recorder' would allow much improved presentation.
On the other, I can't help thinking that this would have the potential to be seriously exploited in the same way that Bacon used the logserver information.
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Izkhanilov
Epsilon Manufacturing
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Posted - 2010.03.06 22:21:00 -
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Yes. Yes.
Everything about this: Yes.
Bumping for great justice.
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darius mclever
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Posted - 2010.03.06 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: T'Amber
Edited by: T''Amber on 02/03/2010 14:16:42
*EDIT- Already posted and supported :|
Originally by: Verys
Edited by: Verys on 25/02/2010 16:17:18
Interesting, this would also allow people to render a movie in higher quality which would normally cause too much lag too run in a big pvp battle. I like it.
TBH, this would save me about a year worth + render time making the video I'm working on. I'd just need to figure out how to manually script the ships and battles :|
-T'amber
IIRC for Day of Darkness II the guy was invited to CCP HQ and could use their inhouse tools.
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EvE Templar
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Posted - 2010.03.22 23:59:00 -
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@OFFTOP: AFAIK, guy started off in 3ds max, but it was a b* to make it, so he contacted CCP and they gave him their piece of software.
@ONTOP: +1
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S1lvia
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Posted - 2010.03.23 00:04:00 -
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+1
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Knight Lightning
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Posted - 2010.03.23 00:07:00 -
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+1
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LukaP
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Posted - 2010.03.23 00:11:00 -
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Edited by: LukaP on 23/03/2010 00:11:25
huh..nie znam polskiego a co dopiero angielski ;)
+1
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mystiq pwnzorg
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Posted - 2010.03.23 00:12:00 -
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+1
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ninjaholic
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2010.05.30 00:15:00 -
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OMG! Thanks guys for all the support! With this kind of attention, we'll totally get the Battle Recorder implemented! 
Support EVE's own IN-GAME fight record tool! or Do the 60 sec Eve Poll
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