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Nasty Thug
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Posted - 2009.12.04 12:35:00 -
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On Behalf of Mothership Owners and Pilots.
Following the disasterous rollback of proposed changes to the mothership class whilst giving the Titan its EHP boost and instajib DD of death, titans can now roam nullsec AND lowsec and basically instajib a mothership at will, even with the best deadspace buffer tank only 3 titans are needed to kill a 25BN ship including fittings, unlike carriers which can at least be insured Motherships no longer fit into the catagory of "supercapital" since they can be so easily be killed and have no defence against titans.
As with titans motherships force their pilots to commit to either floating in safespots or being locked up in POS's, both of which require additional resource constraints on the owners, since the omni-present risk of a hictor/titan hotdrop (and already titan pilots have been using their griefing tool de jour of rorquals et al) means MS pilots are skulking about nervous and wary of being preyed on.
This is grossly inbalanced in favour of titans, since the MS serves NO effective purpose in its current stats for any given combat situation pilots should be given a open option by CCP for GM's to allow them to be docked for the duration of this nerf, until they are suitably rebalanced to be combat effective again.
It is grossly unfair of CCP to expect players to continue to pay a monthly subscription fee to simply keep a ship that serves no current purpose or to cover the cost/time sink of running a POS simply to protect a ship that they have made so vunerable due to their hurried and ill-thought out unbalanced changes to supercapitals.
Therefore I petition that all Mothership pilots who wish to, be allowed to request a GM to dock their Mothership in a station so they can leave them safely mothballed and free up their pilots to use more useful ships on behalf of their fleet.
This is not a long term request that motherships be dockable, only a temporary measure that will allow Motherships to be stored out of harms way while the development team produce and implement a solution that revalidates the mothership to supercapital status.
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Sakar Vahn
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Posted - 2009.12.04 12:42:00 -
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Agreed!
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Ra'Kalin
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Posted - 2009.12.04 12:44:00 -
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Stella's Rage
Stella Rage
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:14:00 -
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Supported. please release us :(
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Odda
Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:20:00 -
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I'm guesing about 80% of all mom pilots got baned from posting 2 weeks ago. so wait about 1 week and this post wil have more suport.
I suport it tho! Moterships sucks monkey balls now.. Knowing what you Abrathur made, then seeing Nozh **** it all upp has ****ed off most supercap pilots in game..
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Rewt ed
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:29:00 -
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I agree motherships are a huge liability. They also have very little benefit over other options. Their current state leaves them vulnerable and this needs to be looked into.
I don't think they need to be force docked though. If it's such a huge inconvenience to have a character tied up to hold it, or have a pos to protect it then sell it. No sense in having 20b tied up in a liability you're seeing no benefits from.
If someone wants to drop 240b in assets to kill 20b I'd expect to be killed relatively quickly.
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CWevers
Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:34:00 -
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Nasty Thug
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Rewt ed I agree motherships are a huge liability. They also have very little benefit over other options. Their current state leaves them vulnerable and this needs to be looked into.
I don't think they need to be force docked though. If it's such a huge inconvenience to have a character tied up to hold it, or have a pos to protect it then sell it. No sense in having 20b tied up in a liability you're seeing no benefits from.
If someone wants to drop 240b in assets to kill 20b I'd expect to be killed relatively quickly.
My request is not to make MS invunerable to Titans, this is not a request for a XYZ changes - but to give MS pilots affected by the lack of MS changes and effective nerf CHOICE in what they do in the interim.
Because they rebalanced titans and did nothing to MS we all accept in a 60 page threadnaught that MS were effectively nerfed, and the risk to using them far outweighs any benefit they offer a fleet compared to fielding carriers, therefore for those that don't want to sell them (assuming you could even get buyers) there should be a one time option to petition a GM to dock them while CCP sorts this mess out.
All i am asking is i and other MS pilots are given a choice to leave our MS hangered without the expense while CCP rebalances them, sell them or use them.
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Nyxster
Gatecrashers
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:55:00 -
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Supported.
I don't want to see many good friends leave the game over this, because we know how much work it is to skill for, keep and run a MS and its grossly unfair that CCP did absoloutly nothing for anyone after all the hours of testing we did for them. the least they can do is let MS alts be free to fly carriers and other ships in the interim and not feel like we are just paying CCP to babysit ships that are hopelessly outclassed for their role now.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:59:00 -
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Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 04/12/2009 13:59:17 Let them dock! ------------------ Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |
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Dah' Khanid
Arcana Imperii Ltd. Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:07:00 -
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Thumbs up.
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Tukangas
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:09:00 -
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signed
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Douglas Pearce
Music Martinis and Misanthropy
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:14:00 -
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:21:00 -
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I supprt this. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Ranko
Fusion Enterprises Ltd C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:30:00 -
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/signed ---
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LordInvisible
GK inc. Panda Team
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:35:00 -
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altough i am not mom pilot i support petitons against stupid CCPs decision.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- empty space - HALP |
Maxsim Goratiev
Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:41:00 -
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I honestly feel that this is reasonable ultill CCP does adjust and balance supercarriers, to their role. Once CCP does it, Super carrier pilots can undock in their new shiny solopwnmobiles. Sound reasonable to me.
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Kel Arkir
Biotronics Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: Kel Arkir on 04/12/2009 14:58:25 Me want
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Axebreaker Jones
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Posted - 2009.12.04 15:09:00 -
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supported
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LoveKebab
Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2009.12.04 15:13:00 -
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aye, atm they are broken :(
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Talor Vet
Urban Decay.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 15:45:00 -
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agreed with the OP
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Domania
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2009.12.04 15:56:00 -
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Mothership? More like Failship, amirite?
I 100% agree! I was very shocked CCP didn't at least add the HP boost for the "supercarriers"(allowed to call them that right now?). Who is Developing this game and what did they do to the real Dev team!
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Ammath
Burning Technologies Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:00:00 -
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CCP Does not like Mom People.
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Felax Thurin
Interstellar eXodus
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:25:00 -
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Signed
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Sokratesz on 04/12/2009 16:29:36
Yes to hp buff, no to docking.
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McFly
C0LDFIRE
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:34:00 -
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HP Buff or Temporary Dock until the ships are fixed
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Severion Atarkos
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:45:00 -
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Edited by: Severion Atarkos on 04/12/2009 16:47:06 Edited by: Severion Atarkos on 04/12/2009 16:46:15 signed hp buff and docking if we can't get it. If we must resort to docking them then we should be able to petition and have CCP move us to a lowsec or 0.0 station of choice.
We worked hard for the things we should be able to use them.
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jnb
Black Ash State Services
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:48:00 -
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Erin Davis
Dark. Dawn
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:49:00 -
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mmhmm...read it preacher |
mentalmackem
Point Blank. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 17:08:00 -
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i support this /signed
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