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Nasty Thug
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Posted - 2009.12.04 12:35:00 -
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On Behalf of Mothership Owners and Pilots.
Following the disasterous rollback of proposed changes to the mothership class whilst giving the Titan its EHP boost and instajib DD of death, titans can now roam nullsec AND lowsec and basically instajib a mothership at will, even with the best deadspace buffer tank only 3 titans are needed to kill a 25BN ship including fittings, unlike carriers which can at least be insured Motherships no longer fit into the catagory of "supercapital" since they can be so easily be killed and have no defence against titans.
As with titans motherships force their pilots to commit to either floating in safespots or being locked up in POS's, both of which require additional resource constraints on the owners, since the omni-present risk of a hictor/titan hotdrop (and already titan pilots have been using their griefing tool de jour of rorquals et al) means MS pilots are skulking about nervous and wary of being preyed on.
This is grossly inbalanced in favour of titans, since the MS serves NO effective purpose in its current stats for any given combat situation pilots should be given a open option by CCP for GM's to allow them to be docked for the duration of this nerf, until they are suitably rebalanced to be combat effective again.
It is grossly unfair of CCP to expect players to continue to pay a monthly subscription fee to simply keep a ship that serves no current purpose or to cover the cost/time sink of running a POS simply to protect a ship that they have made so vunerable due to their hurried and ill-thought out unbalanced changes to supercapitals.
Therefore I petition that all Mothership pilots who wish to, be allowed to request a GM to dock their Mothership in a station so they can leave them safely mothballed and free up their pilots to use more useful ships on behalf of their fleet.
This is not a long term request that motherships be dockable, only a temporary measure that will allow Motherships to be stored out of harms way while the development team produce and implement a solution that revalidates the mothership to supercapital status.
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Sakar Vahn
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Posted - 2009.12.04 12:42:00 -
[2]
Agreed!
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Ra'Kalin
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Posted - 2009.12.04 12:44:00 -
[3]
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Stella's Rage
Stella Rage
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:14:00 -
[4]
Supported. please release us :(
Caution: Does Violence Against Spaceships due to strong lager intake. |
Odda
Phantom Squad
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:20:00 -
[5]
I'm guesing about 80% of all mom pilots got baned from posting 2 weeks ago. so wait about 1 week and this post wil have more suport.
I suport it tho! Moterships sucks monkey balls now..
Knowing what you Abrathur made, then seeing Nozh **** it all upp has ****ed off most supercap pilots in game..
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Rewt ed
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:29:00 -
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I agree motherships are a huge liability. They also have very little benefit over other options. Their current state leaves them vulnerable and this needs to be looked into.
I don't think they need to be force docked though. If it's such a huge inconvenience to have a character tied up to hold it, or have a pos to protect it then sell it. No sense in having 20b tied up in a liability you're seeing no benefits from.
If someone wants to drop 240b in assets to kill 20b I'd expect to be killed relatively quickly.
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CWevers
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:34:00 -
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Nasty Thug
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:51:00 -
[8]
 Originally by: Rewt ed
I agree motherships are a huge liability. They also have very little benefit over other options. Their current state leaves them vulnerable and this needs to be looked into.
I don't think they need to be force docked though. If it's such a huge inconvenience to have a character tied up to hold it, or have a pos to protect it then sell it. No sense in having 20b tied up in a liability you're seeing no benefits from.
If someone wants to drop 240b in assets to kill 20b I'd expect to be killed relatively quickly.
My request is not to make MS invunerable to Titans, this is not a request for a XYZ changes - but to give MS pilots affected by the lack of MS changes and effective nerf CHOICE in what they do in the interim.
Because they rebalanced titans and did nothing to MS we all accept in a 60 page threadnaught that MS were effectively nerfed, and the risk to using them far outweighs any benefit they offer a fleet compared to fielding carriers, therefore for those that don't want to sell them (assuming you could even get buyers) there should be a one time option to petition a GM to dock them while CCP sorts this mess out.
All i am asking is i and other MS pilots are given a choice to leave our MS hangered without the expense while CCP rebalances them, sell them or use them.
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Nyxster
Gatecrashers
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:55:00 -
[9]
Supported.
I don't want to see many good friends leave the game over this, because we know how much work it is to skill for, keep and run a MS and its grossly unfair that CCP did absoloutly nothing for anyone after all the hours of testing we did for them. the least they can do is let MS alts be free to fly carriers and other ships in the interim and not feel like we are just paying CCP to babysit ships that are hopelessly outclassed for their role now.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer
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Posted - 2009.12.04 13:59:00 -
[10]
Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 04/12/2009 13:59:17
Let them dock!
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Dah' Khanid
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:07:00 -
[11]
Thumbs up.
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Tukangas
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:09:00 -
[12]
signed
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Douglas Pearce
Music Martinis and Misanthropy
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:14:00 -
[13]
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Sidus Isaacs
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:21:00 -
[14]
I supprt this.
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Ranko
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:30:00 -
[15]
/signed
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LordInvisible
GK inc.
Panda Team
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:35:00 -
[16]
altough i am not mom pilot i support petitons against stupid CCPs decision..
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Maxsim Goratiev
Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:41:00 -
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I honestly feel that this is reasonable ultill CCP does adjust and balance supercarriers, to their role. Once CCP does it, Super carrier pilots can undock in their new shiny solopwnmobiles. Sound reasonable to me.
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Kel Arkir
Biotronics Inc.
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.04 14:57:00 -
[18]
Edited by: Kel Arkir on 04/12/2009 14:58:25
Me want 
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Axebreaker Jones
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Posted - 2009.12.04 15:09:00 -
[19]
supported
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LoveKebab
Shut Up And Play
WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2009.12.04 15:13:00 -
[20]
aye, atm they are broken :(
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Talor Vet
Urban Decay.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 15:45:00 -
[21]
agreed with the OP
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Domania
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2009.12.04 15:56:00 -
[22]
Mothership? More like Failship, amirite?
I 100% agree! I was very shocked CCP didn't at least add the HP boost for the "supercarriers"(allowed to call them that right now?). Who is Developing this game and what did they do to the real Dev team!
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Ammath
Burning Technologies
Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:00:00 -
[23]
CCP Does not like Mom People.
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Felax Thurin
Interstellar eXodus
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:25:00 -
[24]
Signed
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Sokratesz
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:25:00 -
[25]
Edited by: Sokratesz on 04/12/2009 16:29:36
Yes to hp buff, no to docking.
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McFly
C0LDFIRE
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:34:00 -
[26]
HP Buff or Temporary Dock until the ships are fixed
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Severion Atarkos
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:45:00 -
[27]
Edited by: Severion Atarkos on 04/12/2009 16:47:06
Edited by: Severion Atarkos on 04/12/2009 16:46:15
signed hp buff and docking if we can't get it. If we must resort to docking them then we should be able to petition and have CCP move us to a lowsec or 0.0 station of choice.
We worked hard for the things we should be able to use them.
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jnb
Black Ash State Services
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:48:00 -
[28]
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Hulk Combat - When Carebears Attack! |
Erin Davis
Dark. Dawn
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Posted - 2009.12.04 16:49:00 -
[29]
mmhmm...read it preacher |
mentalmackem
Point Blank.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 17:08:00 -
[30]
i support this /signed
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Murixo
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2009.12.04 17:13:00 -
[31]
/signed
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Susy Assulu
Atomic Mexicans
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Posted - 2009.12.04 17:22:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Susy Assulu on 04/12/2009 17:22:46
To not sign this would be lunacy...
Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. StevieSG |
Duchess Starbuckington
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Posted - 2009.12.04 17:23:00 -
[33]
Supported
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SickSeven
Nova Aquilae
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Posted - 2009.12.04 17:28:00 -
[34]
Another Dominion "WHAT THE F*CK?!?!?!?!?" moment.... next the Naglfail rollback.
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Azuse
Brotherhood of Suicidal Priests
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.12.04 17:40:00 -
[35]
Sad, but true..
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Tozmeister
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2009.12.04 17:41:00 -
[36]
Originally by: mentalmackem
i support this /signed
If you don't give it the 'Thumbs Up' then no you haven't.
+++????+++Out of Cheese Error. Redo From Start+++ |
Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.04 17:53:00 -
[37]
/signed
Ridiculous lack of mothership buff is ridiculous |
Sgt Prozcoe
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.04 18:23:00 -
[38]
/signed.
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.04 18:34:00 -
[39]
Give it an HP buff or give it docking while you try to figure out what to do with them, CCP.
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Balder Con
Caldari
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 18:34:00 -
[40]
/signed
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Enil Eromeno
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Posted - 2009.12.04 18:52:00 -
[41]
/s
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DG J
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Posted - 2009.12.04 19:05:00 -
[42]
Supported
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Mr Ignitious
Helljumpers
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Posted - 2009.12.04 19:17:00 -
[43]
doing my part.
I read the forums assuming there are no trolls, only really stupid people.
Originally by: CCP Zulupark
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?
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Carfex
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 19:20:00 -
[44]
/signed.
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Jak Sparra
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Posted - 2009.12.04 19:49:00 -
[45]
signed. I think:-
No change to anything else except a HP bonus, either resists to hull, or hull HP's. Enough time for them to run away before the second volley.
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Gunship 666
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Posted - 2009.12.04 20:04:00 -
[46]
I support this product / advertisement.
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Myfanwy Pisces
THORN Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.04 20:16:00 -
[47]
I support this.
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xXxDianaxXx
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Posted - 2009.12.04 20:45:00 -
[48]
/signed
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Trent Nichols
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 21:02:00 -
[49]
It could take a year for Nozh to stop pouting so, yes, let them dock so the pilots can be useful in the meantime.
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Gung Waio
Praetorian Black Guard
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Posted - 2009.12.04 21:10:00 -
[50]
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Avicenna Sarfaraz
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 21:59:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Avicenna Sarfaraz on 04/12/2009 21:59:31
Avi approves of this message.
-MVN- The Maverick Navy
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Brother Theos
Big Guns Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 22:19:00 -
[52]
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Mr Macawesome
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.04 22:30:00 -
[53]
Hp buff, fighter bombers that do more dps than a dread, leave everything else the same. Maybe remove the clone vat.
Ccp it appears to me that you wanted to turn the motherships into t2 carriers. STOP IT! Get off your lazy arses and create this new class instead of trying to mutate a already over nerfed and broken ship into something it's not.
If you can't seem to do your job then maybe you should harden the **** up.
There are some goons.
-dastommy79
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boeses frettchen
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.12.04 23:10:00 -
[54]
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Letifer Deus
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.12.04 23:18:00 -
[55]
/signed
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Golden Hands
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Posted - 2009.12.05 00:10:00 -
[56]
/signed
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Darriele
THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY
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Posted - 2009.12.05 00:17:00 -
[57]
obviously
Inappropriate signature removed.Applebabe |
Lith Erivi
Caldari
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.12.05 00:45:00 -
[58]
Supported.
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Caldreean
Dawnwalkers
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Posted - 2009.12.05 00:49:00 -
[59]
HP buff or one time dock, either works.
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Mathhew Kane
Gradient
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.12.05 00:55:00 -
[60]
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Loyalty is simply slavery of ones own choosing. If ever you have the choice, Choose your master well."
My Step Father, Isikile Kane.
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John MacCoy
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.05 00:57:00 -
[61]
I was planning on getting a mothership but what the point now. I feel really sorry for the people in my alliance and everyone else who have a choice of either being trapping in a useless supercap at a POS for the next 6 months or risk getting it oblitorated by a few titans.
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Sarah Meow
Biotronics Inc.
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.05 01:03:00 -
[62]
/signed
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Aluin Chaput
Mort's Navy
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Posted - 2009.12.05 01:14:00 -
[63]
/Signed.
CCP, WTF where you thinking?
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Brendalin Kerr
The Knights Templar
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2009.12.05 01:28:00 -
[64]
signed
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Riu Kasim
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Posted - 2009.12.05 02:06:00 -
[65]
Let the pilots dock, then think about a balancing that work for both sides.
ccp fix your fail
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Ryan Powers
Caldari
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.05 02:58:00 -
[66]
/signed
Free Abathur! |
Amorex
Macabre Votum
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Posted - 2009.12.05 04:41:00 -
[67]
i support this
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FT Diomedes
Factio Paucorum
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Posted - 2009.12.05 04:58:00 -
[68]
I support this idea.
...this doesn't even seem to be a regular case of rats fleeing the sinking ship. Seems more like the rats are on fire, the ship is on fire, and the sea is full of drunk Russians. - Jacob Etienne |
Oniuss
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Posted - 2009.12.05 06:43:00 -
[69]
Agreed something needs to be done about this crap. I don't fly a MS personally... However CCP get off your ass and fix the damn things already. If nothing else we can all start talking about other screwed up game issues instead like no killmails for TCUs?
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Stevens
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.05 06:59:00 -
[70]
While I support this idea unless we plan to bypass the CSM with mass signing (which ccp admit a mistake would never happen) we don't need to continue signing since we have 1 rep supporting it already (Thanks Sokratesz) and that forces it to be brought to the CSM time permitting.
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Shade Millith
International House of PWNCakes
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Posted - 2009.12.05 09:20:00 -
[71]
Supported.
The current state of MS, and the fear that MS pilots currently have, with the possibility that their MS is going to loose billions in worth.
Give them the chance to, if indeed a massive price nerf happens, to reprocess the MS, before any patch happens.
Let the MS pilots get out of their, now completely useless, ship.
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Oljud Zork
Evolution
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.05 09:28:00 -
[72]
I support this!
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Witcher
Aperture Harmonics
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Posted - 2009.12.05 10:21:00 -
[73]
im not even mothership pilot, but i kinda support it
however its a bit trikky in a sense dd - is a DOOMSDAY device after all
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Guygeboe
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.05 12:09:00 -
[74]
yes to both!!
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Bosjathfort
Dragon's Rage
Green Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.05 12:11:00 -
[75]
Totally agreed, the jump range and HP buff were absolutely needed!!! 
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Naala Kain
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Posted - 2009.12.05 12:14:00 -
[76]
/Signed x9000
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Tronjay the'3rd
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.05 12:40:00 -
[77]
Signed
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Matroska
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.05 12:40:00 -
[78]
Completely support this.
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Moab Nos
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.05 14:01:00 -
[79]
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Siddy
Evolution
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.05 14:17:00 -
[80]
yes
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Karma InnRuin
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Posted - 2009.12.05 14:35:00 -
[81]
/signed
This is a perfect idea IF all MS are forced to undock when the situation is rectified. A consideration of owning such a glorious ship is not being able to dock and it should be kept that way.
HP boost is absolutly needed and an uplift to DPS when fighting other Caps comes a close second. My Nyx is 14 or so times more expensive than a Thanatos, it needs to be 14 or so times more of a ship. |
Brakus Vendi
Caldari
RISK Shipping and Trading
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Posted - 2009.12.05 17:43:00 -
[82]
Only Chuck Norris can divide by zero.
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Azure Dreams
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Posted - 2009.12.05 17:58:00 -
[83]
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Shigsy
Ignition.
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Posted - 2009.12.05 18:47:00 -
[84]
Join "C&P" ingame! |
Admiral Hunter
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Posted - 2009.12.05 18:53:00 -
[85]
/signed
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Triton101
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Posted - 2009.12.05 19:09:00 -
[86]
/signed
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Ripp Tyde
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.05 19:38:00 -
[87]
signed
Ripp Tyde
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Bismaru's Ambition
Amarr
Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2009.12.05 19:55:00 -
[88]
So you want a one time docking because you are worried that "3 titans are needed to kill a 25BN ship", how is this different to a small dread fleet doing the same, I agree MS need a buff but I say the pilots knew what they got themselves in for when they jumped in a MS,..
Buff the MS but dont allow a temp dock based on the fact that you 'might' get 3 titans and a hic randomly on your ass, imo if you died from 3 titans you kindda messed up in the first place,..
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fire elf
Solar Storm
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2009.12.05 20:38:00 -
[89]
Iam angry. This is stupid.. Either HP buff or Docking Rights!
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Jennifer Celeste
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Posted - 2009.12.05 20:45:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Jennifer Celeste on 05/12/2009 20:45:12
Originally by: Sokratesz
Edited by: Sokratesz on 04/12/2009 16:29:36
Yes to hp buff, no to docking.
olook a clueless member of the CSM...there's a shocker
On Topic: Signing this, because mom pilots are so f'd in the a.
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Chuck Skull
b.b.k
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2009.12.05 20:48:00 -
[91]
Edited by: Chuck Skull on 05/12/2009 20:48:28
Costs hundreds of millions a month just to store a mom at the moment. Either in POS fuel or toon costs.
Should definitely be allowed to be mothballled til someone in CCP pulls their thumb out.
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Kaimar Redcloud
Beagle Industries
F A I L
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Posted - 2009.12.05 21:02:00 -
[92]
was 3months from a mom. wanted to be a combat pilot in it,not a pos babysitter
Drunken lowsec pilot extraordinaire |
TwIsTeDSoLdIeR
DEATHFUNK
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Posted - 2009.12.05 21:49:00 -
[93]
Signed
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.05 21:56:00 -
[94]
rabble rabble rabble
Quote:
CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Tania Sullivan
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Posted - 2009.12.05 22:14:00 -
[95]
signed
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Margido
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Posted - 2009.12.05 22:16:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Margido on 05/12/2009 22:16:34
/Signed
Please let me park this 16bill + fitting brick of DD bait.
Cheers!
Margido
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Tyler
Shut Up And Play
WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2009.12.05 22:37:00 -
[97]
Fix this.
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CommmanderInChief
Unorganised Crime
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Posted - 2009.12.05 22:40:00 -
[98]
Edited by: CommmanderInChief on 05/12/2009 22:40:42
You know what just all all bloody ships to dock all the time! So in a way supported
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waferzankko
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.05 22:54:00 -
[99]
plz let my dock my worthless pile of dd bait.
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BuckStrider
KOMA.
Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.12.05 23:05:00 -
[100]
/signed...plz fix
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Roughlove
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Posted - 2009.12.05 23:23:00 -
[101]
supported
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The Lionheart
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Posted - 2009.12.05 23:54:00 -
[102]
Supported
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Odda
Gallente
Phantom Squad
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.06 00:23:00 -
[103]
Just didd some testing on TQ.
Nyx w/ full slave sett, t2 trimarked and dedspace fitted and with dmg control + armor link and shield link.
Then fired a Avatar Doomsday. This put the nyx with 20% armor left!
23:47:42 Combat XXX (Judgement) hits you for 746 464 damage
 If you dont have a slave sett you wil die in ONE DD
Dont have a Trimark and dmg controll fitted you wil die in ONE DD
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ElvenLord
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Posted - 2009.12.06 00:29:00 -
[104]
/signed
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Patapoff
7th Sense
Manifest Destiny.
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Posted - 2009.12.06 00:53:00 -
[105]
/signed
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Anela Cistine
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.12.06 01:12:00 -
[106]
I don't fly a mother ship, or care about mother ships, but the current situation is clearly unfair to players that do. Park the ships, free the players.
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Misanth
Reaper Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.06 01:57:00 -
[107]
I can think of many ways this can be abused, but.. since I'm biased and a mothership pilot myself, I'll just thumbs up on it anyway.
45d+ on my next skill, unless anything changes I have no reason to log him in. If I could dock I could at least jumpclone to my old +5 clone and cut down the training somewhat. Either that or let me pop out in a carrier now and then, anything.
He's just paid to be laughed in the face as it is. 
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I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Misanth
Reaper Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.06 02:43:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Odda
Just didd some testing on TQ.
Nyx w/ full slave sett, t2 trimarked and dedspace fitted and with dmg control + armor link and shield link.
Then fired a Avatar Doomsday. This put the nyx with 20% armor left!
23:47:42 Combat XXX (Judgement) hits you for 746 464 damage
If you dont have a slave sett you wil die in ONE DD
Dont have a Trimark and dmg controll fitted you wil die in ONE DD
Aeon with triple trimark, HG slaves, Akemon's 8%, X-Type/A-Type, gang bonus etc etc yada yada, only thing missing to max it out was Damnation-bonuses: one DD took out full shield + closer to 30% of my armor. That's an omnitank around 91% average resists.
I could imagine an extreme scenario where that would tank three fully skilled titans, but then you're so deep in structure that you die if you fart in your seat, not to mention you spent about as much money on lowslots and implants as you did on your hull. Disregarding mid/highs/dronebay etc.
More likely most moms die to 1-2, in some cases 3, and extreme cases 4. I think most of us know how common it was to park 3-4 titans to AoE-DD people on jump-in when defending systems, nothing really stops them from instagibbing a Mothership before it can even slowboat inside a shield on a JB POS. It'll be even easier in lowsec where it's quite common to share lowsec systems for POS'.
Quite amusing to the say the very least, havn't seen such poor ship balance since no-stackingnerf damage mod days.
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I'd tell you why but then I'll have to kill you. And to kill you I'd have to log in. And to log in I'd have to stop browsing these forums. Both you and me knows that'll never happen. |
Morgoth Xep
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.12.06 02:43:00 -
[109]
I was literally 4 hours from putting a Nyx in the cooker when you guys reversed course. I know a few guys who aren't so lucky. It is pretty hilarious that the reasoning given for rolling them back was that you guys didn't like their "role" and so you moved them back to the role of useless isk sink.
Think of the children.
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Tobruk
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.06 03:02:00 -
[110]
please do this ccp
you made a terrible decision why should we have to pay for it AGAIN
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Sig removed. Elmo Pug removed my sig because he hates me
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Gerny Halak
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Posted - 2009.12.06 06:11:00 -
[111]
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Number Thirteen
Infinity Enterprises
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.06 10:36:00 -
[112]
Signed
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Odda
Gallente
Phantom Squad
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.06 10:46:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Odda on 06/12/2009 11:08:45
Edited by: Odda on 06/12/2009 10:53:35
First mom just died to titan
ANd acoring to pilot, he died of 1 dd.
He also had a FULL Slave sett.
http://www.klevis.net/rakb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=58005
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1226087&page=1#24
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c0rn1
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 10:56:00 -
[114]
Edited by: c0rn1 on 06/12/2009 10:56:45
Definately signed
x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
Life's a waste of time ...
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Ospie
Core Impulse
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.06 11:16:00 -
[115]
I support this and an hp buff asap.
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Cassius Hawkeye
Minmatar
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 11:22:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Cassius Hawkeye on 06/12/2009 11:22:10
Signed - CCP do something please
(something sensible)
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GHOST TIMMER
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.06 11:31:00 -
[117]
signed
[IMG]http://eve-files. com/dl/161206 |
Elendar
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.06 11:48:00 -
[118]
The HP buff they were going to get would do it as they could actually be used then, failing that yes dock and mothball them.
Also a MS got one shotted by a titan yesterday....
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2009.12.06 11:51:00 -
[119]
Signed, i support the changes proposed by arbathur btw ;)
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Daxel Magmalloy
UK Corp
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Posted - 2009.12.06 11:53:00 -
[120]
Supported.
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Cpt Underpants
Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2009.12.06 12:05:00 -
[121]
I fully support this product and/or service.
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Yon89
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.06 12:12:00 -
[122]
I suport this
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SIG SIG SIG |
Alkina
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.06 12:19:00 -
[123]
/signed
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Cpt JamesTKirk
Point Blank.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.06 12:20:00 -
[124]
/signed
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Neo Gabriel
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2009.12.06 12:27:00 -
[125]
/signed Even tho I will never fly one.
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Glassback
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 12:44:00 -
[126]
Yes
Our MS were nerfed - BECAUSE OF TARGETPAINTER!
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Frederick Gerhard
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 12:48:00 -
[127]
hell yea
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Del Girl
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.12.06 12:51:00 -
[128]
For what good it will do i fully support whatever needs to be done to allow Motherships to function!
Del
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Trondjana
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.06 13:17:00 -
[129]
I support this petition
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Dors Venabily
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Posted - 2009.12.06 13:25:00 -
[130]
Agreed.
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The Kan
Evolution
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.06 14:29:00 -
[131]
/Signed
Altho i parked my nyx in a alt, it's still a active account im paying to keep that piece of junk that i could use for other stuff
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Sytok
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Posted - 2009.12.06 14:34:00 -
[132]
/signed
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juduzz
NibbleTek
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Posted - 2009.12.06 14:35:00 -
[133]
signed
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Dead3y3
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Posted - 2009.12.06 14:40:00 -
[134]
Makes sense.
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Valeriya
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 14:43:00 -
[135]
This
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The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on. |
eocsnesemaj
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Posted - 2009.12.06 14:50:00 -
[136]
Agreed.. moms are not super caps at all now :(
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Kitten Eater
Antares Frontier
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Posted - 2009.12.06 14:53:00 -
[137]
Supporting the OP
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Nasej
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Posted - 2009.12.06 14:55:00 -
[138]
mom DDing makes baby jesus cry....
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Drillass
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Posted - 2009.12.06 15:01:00 -
[139]
\ sign
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jdubs
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Posted - 2009.12.06 15:05:00 -
[140]
Edited by: jdubs on 06/12/2009 15:05:30
signed
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Misaki Yuuko
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Posted - 2009.12.06 15:14:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Odda
First mom just died to titan
ANd acoring to pilot, he died of 1 dd.
He also had a FULL Slave sett.
http://www.klevis.net/rakb/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=58005
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1226087&page=1#24
How long until you fix this ****, CCP? 2 years? FUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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Arzal
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.06 15:30:00 -
[142]
THIS
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Pellura
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.12.06 15:41:00 -
[143]
Signed
^^ |
Nuskoginus
PPN United
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 16:32:00 -
[144]
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Festidious Verrucas
Draconis Alumni
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Posted - 2009.12.06 16:36:00 -
[145]
Edited by: Festidious Verrucas on 06/12/2009 16:36:23
Supported
Fly safe,
Fes.
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Aratosh
H A V O C
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Posted - 2009.12.06 16:47:00 -
[146]
Free MS pilots
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DrunkenDead
H A V O C
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Posted - 2009.12.06 16:47:00 -
[147]
/signed
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Sheyla Ragnos
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Posted - 2009.12.06 16:48:00 -
[148]
This
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kirst n
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Posted - 2009.12.06 17:03:00 -
[149]
/Signed
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Graman
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 17:07:00 -
[150]
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Dri Kulsane
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 17:22:00 -
[151]
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Nakthar Kothan
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Posted - 2009.12.06 17:26:00 -
[152]
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Armundo
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 17:30:00 -
[153]
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mineswallower
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 17:32:00 -
[154]
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Red Thunder
tr0pa de elite
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.06 17:36:00 -
[155]
signzored
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Wild Spirit
REUNI0N
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 17:43:00 -
[156]
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Qual
Cornexant Research
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Posted - 2009.12.06 17:45:00 -
[157]
"The short version: Qual is right." -Papa Smurf |
Jonus Rath
The Collective
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Posted - 2009.12.06 18:27:00 -
[158]
yup |
Gunner
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 18:31:00 -
[159]
*** 2007.10.06 R.I.P. Hatuk my friend.
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Bogdan81
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Posted - 2009.12.06 19:04:00 -
[160]
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Captain Plumb
Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2009.12.06 19:06:00 -
[161]
Signed. Sort it out CCP.
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Anope
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 19:36:00 -
[162]
SigneD!!!
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Roger Albany
Koshaku
Antaeus Combine
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Posted - 2009.12.06 19:41:00 -
[163]
Signed
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EatMePlease
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Posted - 2009.12.06 19:42:00 -
[164]
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Gagarish
Amarr
VVS Corporition
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 19:51:00 -
[165]
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Calamoures
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2009.12.06 20:46:00 -
[166]
+1
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Roderigo Borgia
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
|
Posted - 2009.12.06 20:49:00 -
[167]
signed..
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Irishwrath
Body Count Inc.
Against ALL Authorities
|
Posted - 2009.12.06 21:01:00 -
[168]
/signed
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Jordan Musgrat
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.06 21:27:00 -
[169]
It's the least you can do CCP.
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Primary is family values, secondary is 0.0... |
Cheeba Don
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2009.12.06 22:01:00 -
[170]
I support!
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oOk! |
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EoH253
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Posted - 2009.12.06 23:09:00 -
[171]
Supported.
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Porgy
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.12.06 23:42:00 -
[172]
_______________________
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Naomi Wildfire
Stardust Heavy Industries
Majesta Empire
|
Posted - 2009.12.07 01:08:00 -
[173]
signed
My Videos:
Wildfire - New Horizons
Wildfire - Stand your Ground
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Dave PSI
Haendlergilde
Gilde Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.07 01:10:00 -
[174]
yep, i already sold mine, but is a good idea
T R U S T shop: http://www.evetrust.com // Haendlergilde [HAE]
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Mr Bright
Shade.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.12.07 02:35:00 -
[175]
(Y) yes good idea
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Betty Goddard
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Posted - 2009.12.07 03:10:00 -
[176]
Support
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Rezaa
Pandemonium Technologies
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Posted - 2009.12.07 03:57:00 -
[177]
signed
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Yonathena
|
Posted - 2009.12.07 05:00:00 -
[178]
I suport this
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whatsmellslikeupdog
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.07 05:00:00 -
[179]
Signed
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El Begemot
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Posted - 2009.12.07 05:00:00 -
[180]
signed
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Thallidus
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Posted - 2009.12.07 07:17:00 -
[181]
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Xalib Zondo
Cloak and Daggers
Die Luftwaffle
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Posted - 2009.12.07 07:23:00 -
[182]
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Ecatherina W
AAA.FSI Holding
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.07 07:56:00 -
[183]
Clearly in support. It isn't fair and it isn't balanced as it stands at the moment.
***** Empress of the Multiverse ***** |
whatsmellslikeyourfeet
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Posted - 2009.12.07 11:45:00 -
[184]
Signed
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Julia Logalus
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Posted - 2009.12.07 11:49:00 -
[185]
Signed
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Ian Logalus
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.07 11:51:00 -
[186]
Signed
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Laura Vixen
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Posted - 2009.12.07 11:51:00 -
[187]
Signed
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Jaron Terrkin
Biotronics Inc.
Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2009.12.07 12:03:00 -
[188]
/signed
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Armadaus Baldwin
International House of PWNCakes
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Posted - 2009.12.07 12:05:00 -
[189]
Correct the epic stupidity. Supported.
Maybe if they do SOMETHING before another six months when they re-evaluate motherships, again... or would that be again, again? Maybe, I'll re-sub that account.
In honor of 02-05-09, and our new Goon Overlords.
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Zin Leya
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Posted - 2009.12.07 13:07:00 -
[190]
I'm not a mothership pilot/captain/admiral yet, but I can understand the current concerns. I support the docking of these ships if it is done as the OP suggest. |
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Rhaegor Stormborn
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.07 14:42:00 -
[191]
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Ichiro Sanchas
Dark Star Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.07 14:57:00 -
[192]
CCP is doing an excellent job of encouraging new players never to get into a super cap. Maybe that was their goal.
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Mu'n Hurricane
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2009.12.07 17:07:00 -
[193]
As one of many (some?anyone?) whose dreams are to fly this capital piece of space junk.. /signed
don't screw up my seriousinternetspaceships' dreams, even 'for a while'
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Rolinthor
Applied Physics Institute
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Posted - 2009.12.07 17:21:00 -
[194]
Edited by: Rolinthor on 07/12/2009 17:21:37
While in general I don't think CCP should devote too much attention to what is, tbh, an nber-dedicated but miniscule portion of the player base, in this particular case I agree that their (seemingly petulant) refusal to make any changes to moms in Dominion was just plain dumb. Let them at least dock up.
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hamon konakh
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Posted - 2009.12.07 17:26:00 -
[195]
/Signed, let me get into action in something less worthless :)
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enjoi
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.07 17:29:00 -
[196]
Too right.
Real men structure tank. |
Lord Helghast
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Posted - 2009.12.07 18:04:00 -
[197]
Signed, if they arent giving it atleast the HP boost, with the amount of titans in the game and the cost of a MOM its a decent idea.
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ApophisXP
Gatecrashers
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Posted - 2009.12.07 18:46:00 -
[198]
These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corporation. |
Battle Tested
Shiva
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Posted - 2009.12.07 18:46:00 -
[199]
AYE |
Astria Tiphareth
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.12.07 18:54:00 -
[200]
I don't fly one and this makes sense - that or actually completing the intended capital changes. I empathise with the desire to get the changes right, but people still need to be able to do what they do until that happens.
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My views may not represent those of my corporation, which is why I never get invited to those diplomatic parties...
Environmental Effects
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Ricco Lonestar
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:00:00 -
[201]
Edited by: Ricco Lonestar on 07/12/2009 19:00:46
No more beer for the mummy redesign team.
Untill all mummies are fixed.
P.s. Count me in
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uperkurk
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:02:00 -
[202]
/signed
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AvatarOfHope
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Posted - 2009.12.07 19:52:00 -
[203]
Edited by: AvatarOfHope on 07/12/2009 19:52:42
I support this change!
♥Blue Ice♥
Every night in my dreams
I see you, I feel you,
That is how I know you go on... |
Fredy Furious
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Posted - 2009.12.07 21:41:00 -
[204]
/signed
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SamuraiTsumo
Varion Galactic
Abyssus Incendia
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Posted - 2009.12.07 22:19:00 -
[205]
with fighter bombers a super carrier would be awesome. with the new titans, moms are just a liability.
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padshiiangel
REUNI0N
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.07 22:25:00 -
[206]
Supported
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Cupcake Girl
Pillow Fighters Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.07 22:57:00 -
[207]
Sticking it to the man
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Spinnukur
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 01:16:00 -
[208]
/signed
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Michael Scar
Caldari
Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 01:24:00 -
[209]
I'm not convinced there is a problem here. So far only one mothership has been killed by this new doomsday weapon. Until there is alot more evidence to back up peoples theories I don't think any action needs to be taken by CCP.
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SMOOC
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Posted - 2009.12.08 07:26:00 -
[210]
thumbs up!
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malet
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:33:00 -
[211]
totally agree with this
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pshepherd
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:08:00 -
[212]
agreed :) |
Vibora BR
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Posted - 2009.12.08 11:03:00 -
[213]
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Jack Sparroxx
Reaper Industries
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 11:04:00 -
[214]
I really dont think CCP gives a flying f... But I'll sign for good measures any how
signed
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Shemmy
7th Space Cavalry
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Posted - 2009.12.08 12:20:00 -
[215]
Supporting an optional, temporary docking for MS's till they are fixed. They're not worth a jot at the moment, no reason for anyone to use one, and it basically puts these characters out of commission.
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str3tch2
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Posted - 2009.12.08 12:21:00 -
[216]
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Kindjal
Total Mayhem.
Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 13:33:00 -
[217]
/signed
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Morrowism
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Posted - 2009.12.08 13:43:00 -
[218]
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Karmic Enigma
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Posted - 2009.12.08 14:05:00 -
[219]
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Crystal Sly
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Posted - 2009.12.08 14:28:00 -
[220]
I'm not a mom pilot and I don't know any but I agree they should be able to dock their motherships and jump in something cooler until they get unnerfed.
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King Dave
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Posted - 2009.12.08 14:31:00 -
[221]
My mom pilot is offline, but if he was online I would like this..
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Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
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Posted - 2009.12.08 16:37:00 -
[222]
Supported because CCP should perform damage control on their ****ups
-----
Originally by: GM Horse
Remember kids, both meth and macro use are Really Quite Bad Things.
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Vidtorin
Destructive Influence
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.08 17:13:00 -
[223]
Edited by: Vidtorin on 08/12/2009 17:13:34
I think this is a great idea.
As much as i love my Nyx, it's just a waste of a character leaving it in that ship. obviously when a super capital pilot purchases a super capital, they understand the consequences of buying one, but to have a ship that can be killed in 3 hits is such an imbalance.
Anyway, i fully support this and would like it if mom pilots had this option
I also noticed no one from ccp has replied (i think anyway). I would like to hear what they have to say on the matter.
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Joseph Smith
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Posted - 2009.12.08 17:40:00 -
[224]
Edited by: Joseph Smith on 08/12/2009 17:41:20
Signed
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fairimear
Esto Perpetua
BiffCo.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 22:42:00 -
[225]
Signed for TEMPORARY DOCK this is not validating The proposed Change Announced by CCP NOZH that would have lowered the cost or made them dockable
Bringing a type of class to PL. |
sting122
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.09 00:56:00 -
[226]
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quard
Propaganda Corp
Honourable Templum of Alcedonia
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Posted - 2009.12.09 01:10:00 -
[227]
i sign it too hell yea
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phantomshura
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Posted - 2009.12.09 02:25:00 -
[228]
signed
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King Dave
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Posted - 2009.12.09 11:33:00 -
[229]
Originally by: phantomshura
signed
really?
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Seiver D'amross
Subach-Tech
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Posted - 2009.12.09 11:50:00 -
[230]
_____________________________________________________
I shal stand tall and shake the heavens with my power
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Young Guns
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Posted - 2009.12.09 17:41:00 -
[231]
agreed, thx
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Termin8or
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Posted - 2009.12.09 17:43:00 -
[232]
Great Idea, get me out of this nerfed coffin
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Lord Zulu
The Maverick Navy
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.09 19:30:00 -
[233]
Edited by: Lord Zulu on 09/12/2009 19:35:19
Edited by: Lord Zulu on 09/12/2009 19:35:08
yes please
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Kadzu
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Posted - 2009.12.10 10:01:00 -
[234]
/Signed
P.s. But i think. may be need a build special upgrade for Stantion, for store Super Capitals.
they very Increase Stantion in Size.
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Hawkeye1221
I.M.M
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.12.10 14:41:00 -
[235]
Edited by: Hawkeye1221 on 10/12/2009 14:41:34
give us mom pilots a chance to use our char once again
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Arcanim Al'Seif
Volatile Nature
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.12.10 16:37:00 -
[236]
Signed.
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Siu Yuen
Genco
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.10 18:43:00 -
[237]
Signed
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Toolkas
VVS Corporition
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.11 15:38:00 -
[238]
Edited by: Toolkas on 11/12/2009 15:40:03
Signed
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John Marshel
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Posted - 2009.12.11 18:39:00 -
[239]
/signed 1 angry Nyx pilot
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Sungho Jin
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Posted - 2009.12.11 20:16:00 -
[240]
Edited by: Sungho Jin on 11/12/2009 20:24:19
So, here's what I don't get.
A mom can warp into a POS where a Jump Freighter just landed, pop it in a minute, maybe two, and there goes a 4B ship plus what it's carrying, which could be another 4B or more. Half the value of the Mom down the drain.
I know damn well what the folks crying foul here would say if a JF pilot came here saying wahhhhhhh.... buff my JF. They's day "tough, the MS pilot paid a lot of money for that MS, and he has the right to solo-gank you, Eve is a tough world yada yada". I know this because that's what the MS pilots always used to say when they sat ganking everything that moved on low-sec gates with 0 risk. Now the shoe is on the other foot and they're calling for the waaaaaahhhhmbulance.
So, tell me why a pilot in an 80BN ship shouldn't be able to solo-gank a pilot in a 18BN ship. Doesn't the same logic apply? Shouldn't the answer to the MS pilots be "tough, the Titan pilot paid a lot of money for that Titan, he ought to be able to solo gank you".
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Evgeny Onegin
Rage and Terror
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Posted - 2009.12.12 06:13:00 -
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+1
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Lady TsunNade
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Posted - 2009.12.12 21:39:00 -
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+1
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Boomershoot
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.12.12 22:47:00 -
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+1
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i'd gladly abuse [hr] if CCP implemented it
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bluebandit
Dark Knights of Deneb
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.13 22:10:00 -
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supporting this.
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eliminator2
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Posted - 2009.12.14 09:01:00 -
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i support this they ****ed up for MS so they should be able to dock untill they are fixed
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Tappits
Priory Of The Lemon
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.14 09:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sungho Jin
Edited by: Sungho Jin on 11/12/2009 20:24:19
So, here's what I don't get.
A mom can warp into a POS where a Jump Freighter just landed, pop it in a minute, maybe two, and there goes a 4B ship plus what it's carrying, which could be another 4B or more. Half the value of the Mom down the drain.
I know damn well what the folks crying foul here would say if a JF pilot came here saying wahhhhhhh.... buff my JF. They's day "tough, the MS pilot paid a lot of money for that MS, and he has the right to solo-gank you, Eve is a tough world yada yada". I know this because that's what the MS pilots always used to say when they sat ganking everything that moved on low-sec gates with 0 risk. Now the shoe is on the other foot and they're calling for the waaaaaahhhhmbulance.
So, tell me why a pilot in an 80BN ship shouldn't be able to solo-gank a pilot in a 18BN ship. Doesn't the same logic apply? Shouldn't the answer to the MS pilots be "tough, the Titan pilot paid a lot of money for that Titan, he ought to be able to solo gank you".
No because its not the same. you can get a carrier to kill the JF/rorqual you don't need a mom to do it. and its not an insta death like you say its 1-3 mins well thats time to jump RRing carriers in then and save the JF/rorqual.
Now switch it round and a Titan is DDing a mom, mmmmm theres no defence aganst this theres no way to stop it theres no way you can RR it..... i.e not the same
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NedFromAssembly
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.12.14 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sungho Jin
Edited by: Sungho Jin on 11/12/2009 20:24:19
So, here's what I don't get.
A mom can warp into a POS where a Jump Freighter just landed, pop it in a minute, maybe two, and there goes a 4B ship plus what it's carrying, which could be another 4B or more. Half the value of the Mom down the drain.
I know damn well what the folks crying foul here would say if a JF pilot came here saying wahhhhhhh.... buff my JF. They's day "tough, the MS pilot paid a lot of money for that MS, and he has the right to solo-gank you, Eve is a tough world yada yada". I know this because that's what the MS pilots always used to say when they sat ganking everything that moved on low-sec gates with 0 risk. Now the shoe is on the other foot and they're calling for the waaaaaahhhhmbulance.
So, tell me why a pilot in an 80BN ship shouldn't be able to solo-gank a pilot in a 18BN ship. Doesn't the same logic apply? Shouldn't the answer to the MS pilots be "tough, the Titan pilot paid a lot of money for that Titan, he ought to be able to solo gank you".
Funny thing, a dread can kill a JF even faster than a MS can.(3-4x faster if youre a torp fit phoenix)
I also support this, let us dock so I can get my MS pilot into something ****ing useful.
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Trishtan DeMore
Seraphin Technologies
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Posted - 2009.12.15 13:10:00 -
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Vestus Regula
The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2009.12.15 17:40:00 -
[249]
+1
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jdubs
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Posted - 2009.12.16 13:43:00 -
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What ever happened about this?
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barvo
7th Space Cavalry
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Posted - 2009.12.16 17:42:00 -
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Edited by: barvo on 16/12/2009 17:42:57
Originally by: Sungho Jin
Edited by: Sungho Jin on 11/12/2009 20:24:19
So, here's what I don't get.
A mom can warp into a POS where a Jump Freighter just landed, pop it in a minute, maybe two, and there goes a 4B ship plus what it's carrying, which could be another 4B or more. Half the value of the Mom down the drain.
I know damn well what the folks crying foul here would say if a JF pilot came here saying wahhhhhhh.... buff my JF. They's day "tough, the MS pilot paid a lot of money for that MS, and he has the right to solo-gank you, Eve is a tough world yada yada". I know this because that's what the MS pilots always used to say when they sat ganking everything that moved on low-sec gates with 0 risk. Now the shoe is on the other foot and they're calling for the waaaaaahhhhmbulance.
So, tell me why a pilot in an 80BN ship shouldn't be able to solo-gank a pilot in a 18BN ship. Doesn't the same logic apply? Shouldn't the answer to the MS pilots be "tough, the Titan pilot paid a lot of money for that Titan, he ought to be able to solo gank you".
Here's what I don't get. You took all the time to write this post, but no time to understand the OP or the issue it relates to. MS eventually killing an un-tankable, un-armable non-combat ship (which would die to a gank BS probably, given enough time) is a little bit different to being alpha'd by a titan in the one ship that realistically should stand a chance against one.
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RoCkEt X
Hostile.
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Posted - 2009.12.16 18:54:00 -
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DD's cant be used in lowsec anymore. so keep your MS's in lowsec and go hotdropping...
at least thats what i'm doing...
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BiONetworks
Caldari
Point Blank.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.12.18 03:44:00 -
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LET THEM DOCK
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Trishtan
Zentrum der Macht
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Posted - 2009.12.19 00:56:00 -
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+1
Let them dock
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Lady Australia
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Posted - 2009.12.19 08:18:00 -
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mom pilots need to start desubbing their characters. maybe ccp will listen when their income starts decreasing......
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Tinator
Exile Consortium
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Posted - 2009.12.20 13:24:00 -
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x for freedom!
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padshiiangel
REUNI0N
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.12.20 19:32:00 -
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intresting, how longer ccp will be keep silent and don't fix problems with mom's ?
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Rikku Cake
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Posted - 2010.01.07 10:43:00 -
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+1
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Lena Cakelicious
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Posted - 2010.01.07 10:44:00 -
[259]
HP Buff or docking!
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Tuvar Hiede
Snuggle Muffins
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Posted - 2010.01.07 19:04:00 -
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A reasonable request. I fly a carrier, but as this was an unintended consiquence of buffing titans and removing the mom buff there is no reason not to implement a short term fix.
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Mephisteus
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Posted - 2010.01.07 20:37:00 -
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Cearain
ReSlavers
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Posted - 2010.01.07 22:04:00 -
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Billatron
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Posted - 2010.01.08 00:30:00 -
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I don't fly a MS but sounds like the right idea to me. Hope you get this soon.
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