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Aelius
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Posted - 2004.11.11 14:23:00 -
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As you know the POS are like "big ships" in terms of loot.
If you blow up a POS you would get for loot everything inside it, from ships to BPOs.
My question is simple, will big corps/alliances keep good stuff like BS and BPOs inside their POS?
I tend to see POS like big ore reprocessing plants inside 0.0 and nothing more, people would still prefer to log off at a safe point and keep the BPOs in NPCs Stations.
Care to comment?
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Aelius
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Posted - 2004.11.11 14:23:00 -
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As you know the POS are like "big ships" in terms of loot.
If you blow up a POS you would get for loot everything inside it, from ships to BPOs.
My question is simple, will big corps/alliances keep good stuff like BS and BPOs inside their POS?
I tend to see POS like big ore reprocessing plants inside 0.0 and nothing more, people would still prefer to log off at a safe point and keep the BPOs in NPCs Stations.
Care to comment?
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Derisor
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Posted - 2004.11.11 14:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Aelius
As you know the POS are like "big ships" in terms of loot.
If you blow up a POS you would get for loot everything inside it, from ships to BPOs.
My question is simple, will big corps/alliances keep good stuff like BS and BPOs inside their POS?
I tend to see POS like big ore reprocessing plants inside 0.0 and nothing more, people would still prefer to log off at a safe point and keep the BPOs in NPCs Stations.
Care to comment?
Id imagine that would largely depend on how well defended the station is. If it would take a huge fleet of 300 to kill it then I dont see a problem with it. If there is a limit of like 5 sentry guns then I dont see anyone storing anything in it.
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Derisor
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Posted - 2004.11.11 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius
As you know the POS are like "big ships" in terms of loot.
If you blow up a POS you would get for loot everything inside it, from ships to BPOs.
My question is simple, will big corps/alliances keep good stuff like BS and BPOs inside their POS?
I tend to see POS like big ore reprocessing plants inside 0.0 and nothing more, people would still prefer to log off at a safe point and keep the BPOs in NPCs Stations.
Care to comment?
Id imagine that would largely depend on how well defended the station is. If it would take a huge fleet of 300 to kill it then I dont see a problem with it. If there is a limit of like 5 sentry guns then I dont see anyone storing anything in it.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.11.11 15:25:00 -
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I would never store anything worth a lot of money inside something that can be blown up.
No matter how many ships its supposed to take 
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2004.11.11 15:25:00 -
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I would never store anything worth a lot of money inside something that can be blown up.
No matter how many ships its supposed to take
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Rodge
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Posted - 2004.11.11 15:45:00 -
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The BPOs for producing T2 components may be stored inside the POS. Depending on the costs of the BPOs, of course.
I can't imagine that anyone would seriously hold any BPO (even a frigate one) inside a POS. It's much easier and safer to just run BPCs off the original and store them in the POS.
The only reasons that a BPO would ever see the inside of a POS are:
1. POSs are invulnerable to attack
2. The BPO is very cheap
3. The BPO is required to build the item (no BPCs) and the item in question can only be built in a POS.
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Rodge
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Posted - 2004.11.11 15:45:00 -
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The BPOs for producing T2 components may be stored inside the POS. Depending on the costs of the BPOs, of course.
I can't imagine that anyone would seriously hold any BPO (even a frigate one) inside a POS. It's much easier and safer to just run BPCs off the original and store them in the POS.
The only reasons that a BPO would ever see the inside of a POS are:
1. POSs are invulnerable to attack
2. The BPO is very cheap
3. The BPO is required to build the item (no BPCs) and the item in question can only be built in a POS.
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Titainus
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Posted - 2004.11.11 15:55:00 -
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i think you probley would...but then i imagine that you would need a pretty big fleet to take one out . and i cant see any corp storing there most expensive asset in a structure that can be destroyed .. even if its very hard to do
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Titainus
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Posted - 2004.11.11 15:55:00 -
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i think you probley would...but then i imagine that you would need a pretty big fleet to take one out . and i cant see any corp storing there most expensive asset in a structure that can be destroyed .. even if its very hard to do
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Aelius
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Posted - 2004.11.11 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Rodge
3. The BPO is required to build the item (no BPCs) and the item in question can only be built in a POS.
Now there's an idea.
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Aelius
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Posted - 2004.11.11 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Rodge
3. The BPO is required to build the item (no BPCs) and the item in question can only be built in a POS.
Now there's an idea.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.11.11 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius
Originally by: Rodge
3. The BPO is required to build the item (no BPCs) and the item in question can only be built in a POS.
Now there's an idea.
That my friend (***cough***) is probally close to the truth.
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Harisdrop
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Posted - 2004.11.11 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Aelius
Originally by: Rodge
3. The BPO is required to build the item (no BPCs) and the item in question can only be built in a POS.
Now there's an idea.
That my friend (***cough***) is probally close to the truth.
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Minsc
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:49:00 -
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Keep in mind that during the reinforced period the owner of the station could clear any valuable assets out of the POS if it was in danger of being destroyed/conquered.
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Minsc
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Posted - 2004.11.11 19:49:00 -
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Keep in mind that during the reinforced period the owner of the station could clear any valuable assets out of the POS if it was in danger of being destroyed/conquered.
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2004.11.11 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Minsc
Keep in mind that during the reinforced period the owner of the station could clear any valuable assets out of the POS if it was in danger of being destroyed/conquered.
hmmm if your POS is attacked by 60 battleships I doubt u'll have enough time to get your stuff out of here during reinforced time
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2004.11.11 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Minsc
Keep in mind that during the reinforced period the owner of the station could clear any valuable assets out of the POS if it was in danger of being destroyed/conquered.
hmmm if your POS is attacked by 60 battleships I doubt u'll have enough time to get your stuff out of here during reinforced time
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Kashre
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Posted - 2004.11.12 00:34:00 -
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If I understand how it works properly all you have to do is get a frigate in, use an insta that drops you inside the shiled bubble, grab your stuff, then insta out. Its risky maybe, but its really freaking hard for anything to catch a frigate that doesnt want to be caught and has instas, even another frigate.
And from what Ive seen you could set up your starbase so that the reinforced period lasted quite a long time... having more BS shooting it during that period is not going to make it die any faster.
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Kashre
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Posted - 2004.11.12 00:34:00 -
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If I understand how it works properly all you have to do is get a frigate in, use an insta that drops you inside the shiled bubble, grab your stuff, then insta out. Its risky maybe, but its really freaking hard for anything to catch a frigate that doesnt want to be caught and has instas, even another frigate.
And from what Ive seen you could set up your starbase so that the reinforced period lasted quite a long time... having more BS shooting it during that period is not going to make it die any faster.
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alphawolf2929
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Posted - 2004.11.12 00:41:00 -
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i would never store anything in it , (also keep in mind npc stations can be desttoyed by like 300 ships)
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alphawolf2929
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Posted - 2004.11.12 00:41:00 -
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i would never store anything in it , (also keep in mind npc stations can be desttoyed by like 300 ships)
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.11.12 00:43:00 -
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From what I understand, Tech II component BPOs, and later all Tech III BPOs will only be researchable and buildable in POS in 0.0. So you'll have to have at least those there if you want to use them. I'd still keep any expensive ones, especially BSes and cruisers in safe, non-destroyable bases.
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F'nog
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Posted - 2004.11.12 00:43:00 -
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From what I understand, Tech II component BPOs, and later all Tech III BPOs will only be researchable and buildable in POS in 0.0. So you'll have to have at least those there if you want to use them. I'd still keep any expensive ones, especially BSes and cruisers in safe, non-destroyable bases.
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Drutort
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Posted - 2004.11.12 03:04:00 -
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I think it should be ok to have pos almost indestructible... here is the key... because if you can you know it would still cost crazy amount of things to run that... and really a force doesnÆt have to destroy the POS they can just starve the POS area by blocking off and holding off the area from supplies entering and leaving...
so regardless how strong the fortress is... if nobody can come out of go out... and the fortress needs supplies to run... it will be weakened...
I donÆt want to see too many limitations on something like a POS, but I also donÆt want one that is invulnerableà and runs cheapà
If players are willing to put in the effort then I say why notà if you want to build big enough armor or big enough standing ground then I would assume that it would be hard to get intoà
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Drutort
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Posted - 2004.11.12 03:04:00 -
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I think it should be ok to have pos almost indestructible... here is the key... because if you can you know it would still cost crazy amount of things to run that... and really a force doesnÆt have to destroy the POS they can just starve the POS area by blocking off and holding off the area from supplies entering and leaving...
so regardless how strong the fortress is... if nobody can come out of go out... and the fortress needs supplies to run... it will be weakened...
I donÆt want to see too many limitations on something like a POS, but I also donÆt want one that is invulnerableà and runs cheapà
If players are willing to put in the effort then I say why notà if you want to build big enough armor or big enough standing ground then I would assume that it would be hard to get intoà
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2004.11.12 03:16:00 -
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Edited by: Mynobe Soletae on 12/11/2004 03:19:06
Going from completely safe storage (banks in other MMO's) to unsafe storage is a big change in any game. I can't imagine how EQ, for example, would be if players could steal from your bank or something like that. CCP will eventually implement this "T3 BPO's only in POS's" requirement because until they do, no one will put anything of value in these stations. It just remains to be seen whether the playerbase bends over and takes it.
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Mynobe Soletae
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Posted - 2004.11.12 03:16:00 -
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Edited by: Mynobe Soletae on 12/11/2004 03:19:06
Going from completely safe storage (banks in other MMO's) to unsafe storage is a big change in any game. I can't imagine how EQ, for example, would be if players could steal from your bank or something like that. CCP will eventually implement this "T3 BPO's only in POS's" requirement because until they do, no one will put anything of value in these stations. It just remains to be seen whether the playerbase bends over and takes it.
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