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Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation	Posted - 2009.12.07 07:53:00 - [31] Edited by: Pottsey on 07/12/2009 07:53:09 Nika Dekaia"I imagine the capsulers wouldn't make a dent in the overall gallentean poplation when it comes to votes." Yet all the evidence shows they make a massive difference. Every time the capsulers got involved in the past they had a large amount of vote pulling power. Alexeph Stoekai said "Pottsey, how many times do I have to explain this? CCP stopped running in-game events a long time ago, because it didn't work out." Yet they still managed to do the Caldari power changing decently. They still managed to make a difference in game. They still managed to do it so a large amount of the player base knows about the change. None of which happened with the Gallante power change. They might have stoped running in game player events, but that does not mean they cannot have in game events that are not to do with the player directly. Nika Dekaia said "It's CCPs game, they will form the storyline the way they see fit. It's a phase of transition for the Gallente Federation. CCP has a plan where the storyline will go and I'm sure it will at one point in the future be again a true democracy." Transitions are fine when done in a sensible way. CCP are in charge of the storyline but they have to following their own world rules. You cannot chop and change the story on a whim as you feel like it without destroying the story. This is just what CCP have been doing. What use is a story when one day the Federation will do anything to keep freewill and personable rights, then at a whim of CCP the next day whole sections of the Federation lose all rights for no apparent reason without anyone flattering an eye lid. Yet all lore says this would cause massive riots. Transitions are fine, the way the Frontier worlds lost there right to vote now that makes sense. Transitions have to flow and make sense. If the Gallante elections happened in real life it would be something like this. England is having a vote for a new government. Some laws just came out everyone up in the North part of England is no longer allowed to vote for the new government. Voting day appears. By the way everyone in the Elite class is not allowed to vote either. All the people are ok with this, the Elite don't care and the people don't care about restricted voting. Like that would ever happen! at the very least there would be people complaining. CCP described the Gallente Federation in a way that striping personally rights like voting would cause massive riots and complaining by the people. Then they go and strip away personally rights and voting and nothing happens. That's not transition that's extremely bad story writing. ______ How to Passive Shield Tank T2
Herzog Wolfhammer Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.12.07 08:02:00 - [32] As an American and someone with an Intaki main, I must admit that I don't like logging in to a Game that is supposed to take my mind off the real world, and find my country in the game is just like the my RL one.
Celen Guyver	Posted - 2009.12.07 08:11:00 - [33] Originally by: Pottsey Edited by: Pottsey on 07/12/2009 07:53:09 Nika Dekaia"I imagine the capsulers wouldn't make a dent in the overall gallentean poplation when it comes to votes." Yet all the evidence shows they make a massive difference. Every time the capsulers got involved in the past they had a large amount of vote pulling power. Alexeph Stoekai said "Pottsey, how many times do I have to explain this? CCP stopped running in-game events a long time ago, because it didn't work out." Yet they still managed to do the Caldari power changing decently. They still managed to make a difference in game. They still managed to do it so a large amount of the player base knows about the change. None of which happened with the Gallante power change. They might have stoped running in game player events, but that does not mean they cannot have in game events that are not to do with the player directly. Nika Dekaia said "It's CCPs game, they will form the storyline the way they see fit. It's a phase of transition for the Gallente Federation. CCP has a plan where the storyline will go and I'm sure it will at one point in the future be again a true democracy." Transitions are fine when done in a sensible way. CCP are in charge of the storyline but they have to following their own world rules. You cannot chop and change the story on a whim as you feel like it without destroying the story. This is just what CCP have been doing. What use is a story when one day the Federation will do anything to keep freewill and personable rights, then at a whim of CCP the next day whole sections of the Federation lose all rights for no apparent reason without anyone flattering an eye lid. Yet all lore says this would cause massive riots. Transitions are fine, the way the Frontier worlds lost there right to vote now that makes sense. Transitions have to flow and make sense. If the Gallante elections happened in real life it would be something like this. England is having a vote for a new government. Some laws just came out everyone up in the North part of England is no longer allowed to vote for the new government. Voting day appears. By the way everyone in the Elite class is not allowed to vote either. All the people are ok with this, the Elite don't care and the people don't care about restricted voting. Like that would ever happen! at the very least there would be people complaining. CCP described the Gallente Federation in a way that striping personally rights like voting would cause massive riots and complaining by the people. Then they go and strip away personally rights and voting and nothing happens. That's not transition that's extremely bad story writing. Hey, Im the quote button, maybe you should try clicking me sometime? Love, Quote Button
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2009.12.07 08:39:00 - [34] Quote: Im the quote button, maybe you should try clicking me sometime? Love, Quote Button Oh, I see how it is now. I thought what we had was special My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Sader Rykane Amarr Midnight Sentinels Midnight Space Syndicate	Posted - 2009.12.07 08:59:00 - [35] Originally by: Celen Guyver Hey, Im the quote button, maybe you should try clicking me sometime? Love, Quote Button Pottsey is special and unique. Quoting is for the dull and droll masses. Like us. Sig Gallery is currently down: Contact me ingame for prices.
Metalcali Pacific Industrials	Posted - 2009.12.07 09:17:00 - [36] Originally by: Armoured C gallente are terrible people anyway wish i was born amarr ='( And I wish I was born Minmatar --- Originally by: CCP Mitnal Locked. OP does not contain an idea.
Dani SP	Posted - 2009.12.07 12:34:00 - [37] Most people won't give a **** for roleplaying. it's somehow sad, but what can we do as individuals?
small chimp	Posted - 2009.12.07 16:10:00 - [38] serves them right. gallente militia is so incompetent that they should be banned
Haraldhardrade Amarr Pax Amarr	Posted - 2009.12.07 16:28:00 - [39] Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer As an American and someone with an Intaki main, I must admit that I don't like logging in to a Game that is supposed to take my mind off the real world, and find my country in the game is just like the my RL one. Your country was like that for the past 8 years. You comunist like us in Europa now, not facist anymore. Caveo of Minmatar , torva vacuus regimen of deus es plurrimi periculosus of bestia
Ehranavaar	Posted - 2009.12.07 17:31:00 - [40] it's a good thing. democracy is based on the notion that while a single nitwit who is unfit to have an opinion on the complex issues of governance isn't worth listening to the collective judgement of millions or billions of such nitwits would be the way to run a polity. farcial if you think about it isn't it.
Skex Relbore	Posted - 2009.12.07 18:00:00 - [41] What makes you think Pod Pilots are even human? Ever seen one walking around outside their pod? Face it we're all drone units with pretentions of humanity.
Tover Chris	Posted - 2009.12.07 18:09:00 - [42] Originally by: Skex Relbore What makes you think Pod Pilots are even human? Ever seen one walking around outside their pod? Face it we're all drone units with pretentions of humanity. when Duke Nukem Fore- I mean, Incarna is relased....
Skex Relbore	Posted - 2009.12.07 18:20:00 - [43] Originally by: Tover Chris Originally by: Skex Relbore What makes you think Pod Pilots are even human? Ever seen one walking around outside their pod? Face it we're all drone units with pretentions of humanity. when Duke Nukem Fore- I mean, Incarna is relased.... Incarna's taking so long because they're still trying to figure out how to download our consciousness into human bodies. They'll probably end up just going with a virtual environment. I mean it's not like we'll be able to tell the difference :)
Ignitious Hellfury Minmatar Republic Military Skool HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2009.12.07 18:24:00 - [44] Originally by: Pottsey Abrazzar said "Yet, they only have one vote in the election." They influence more than one vote. Capsuleers have a lot of power behind them. Last time it was the Capsuleers backing that caused the last President to win. Due to status and money many people would follow what the capsuleers say. A pod pilot with 1000's or 10,000's or more followers is more then one vote. Abrazzar said "It was democracy. Capsuleers are just a insignificant minority voting vise." Being a minority isn't the point, not letting the Elite vote is against everything the Gallente stand for. According to the lore it's not something that would happen. Hint: Noone cares. Except you and MAYBE Jade Constantine. But Jade constantine is barely an RPer because he stole all his ideas from a book. (now there is an imaginative player eh?)
Dan Grobag Caldari French Empire Squad Yggdrasill.	Posted - 2009.12.07 18:37:00 - [45] The eve story is like those poor people that ended up speaking to their own thought. If you see it telling something it's actually to it's own ranting.

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