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kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 12:00:00 - [1] Edited by: kessah on 05/12/2009 12:02:04 Please Read before posting: Im showing you what ships can do when the time is right. You need to put these setups in yourself and play with them. This is why they are showed with overload + boosters. A lot of personal preference on setups, minor though they are, the odd module(s) change for each setup would be tailored your play style and situation, please keep that in mind when posting. The setups posted are good solid foundations from which to build from. I cant post setups for all ships, all tactics, all styles of play, would be here all week else. Just take it with a pinch of salt and try to understand what im trying to do. As ever, make these setups your own and play with them. Im here to try and help you. Also i find that you can if you wish, make room in your high slots and stick in a cloak, so you can do thee ole' MWD + Cloak trick to escape blobs. Finally mandatory / shameless video promotion because it does showcase tactics you can learn from, this is Part 1 of 4 uploaded lovingly to YouTube. 2, 3 and 4 will be linked in the side. Looking for some Gallente or Minmatar or Caldari Setups? -Click respective race. Some of these fits are using some officer modules but i promise you they are not that expensive on the contracts if you look. If you dont understand why some fits are like they are, please ask for context and either i or some other helpful person will answer you. Its not a stupid question if you dont know it. Amarr Setups: Punisher Laser Punisher Auto Crusader Maller Brick Arbitrator Curse Tank Curse with some mobility Pilgrim Sacrilege Dual Rep Harbinger Shield Harbinger Plate + Rep Harbinger Plate Armageddon my Standard Armageddon for those that cant live without a MWD Apocalypse Neut Abaddon Plate Abaddon Active - This one really is for the Dual account pvp'ers, have your alt drop you some 800's mid fight.
Sokratesz	Posted - 2009.12.05 12:16:00 - [2] Quite a rampage you're on ain't it
kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 12:19:00 - [3] Originally by: Sokratesz Quite a rampage you're on ain't it Indeed, im in a rather helpful mood these past weeks. Would you like a better Triage Chimera fit with a Triage module on it? lol i know, i know, cheeky Context
Ecky X Shade. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.12.05 12:30:00 - [4] Edited by: Ecky X on 05/12/2009 12:32:46 I happen to really like the Nano-pulse Coercer and Punisher. Think the fit was like this: 2x heatsink micro aux nano MWD 8x Pulse II 2x locus ANCR
Torpir Lee Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.12.05 13:16:00 - [5] While the trimarked light blaster maller looks good on EFT, it's slow as hell and costs way too much. You won't be able to tackle anything solo with an AB and all those plates and trimarks, and anything that can kite you(99% of the ships in eve with an MWD fitted) is pretty much guaranteed victory since your guns can't reach them and you have no drones. Fully trimarking a t1 cruiser is generally a bad idea unless you're a dedicated bait on a fleet(in which case you want more tackle, via MWD and Warp Disruptor). Also, fits for dual account pvp'ers? I thought this was for solo? Do you, Kessah the uber leet solo pvp'er with teh awesome fits use dual accounts for "soloing"? The Crusader fit is terrible. You'll get scrammed and you will die. That measly tank won't help you, and your loldps with gatling pulses doesn't justify getting in that range. Both Punisher fits are good. I especially like the AC one. Rest of the fits I've looked at are mostly standard fits I've seen before. Neut Apoc is kinda confusing but eh.
Secundus Scipiones	Posted - 2009.12.05 13:19:00 - [6] Nice PVP skills on that vid
kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 13:43:00 - [7] Edited by: kessah on 05/12/2009 13:45:32 Originally by: Torpir Lee Also, fits for dual account pvp'ers? I thought this was for solo? Do you, Kessah the uber leet solo pvp'er with teh awesome fits use dual accounts for "soloing"? I threw that one setup there because in day past i had used a 2nd account to help me killing blobs, i believe that a 2nd account used in this way dropping ammo to you isnt at all a taboo in solo combat. One person is still at the controls. Again however you can still use it with one account. Perhaps you could jump into a hauler, anchour a secure can with 800's, and then switch ships to the Abaddon and return, but that would be silly Originally by: Torpir Lee The Crusader fit is terrible. You'll get scrammed and you will die. That measly tank won't help you, and your loldps with gatling pulses doesn't justify getting in that range. I honestly was genuinely pleased when you said this because this is the one setup that is actually brilliant setup. I dont have alot of fraps footage with it, however i can post you my kills with the setup: Unfortunately evekb.co.uk doesnt want to give me the in depth details. I promise you however that 90% of the kills there are by that Sader fit and the losses i sustained were by simply being out numbered. Link to the Sader kills Link to the losses You can make your own mind up on it, but i assure you the damage is sufficient and overload is of critical importance.
Gabriel Blade Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2009.12.05 13:48:00 - [8] Two of the three I glaced at are not valid fits according to your own EFT screenshot (Punisher Laser uses to much CPU, Harbinger Plate uses two much Power).
Torpir Lee Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.12.05 13:52:00 - [9] It still looks like a ranis wannabe to me. You have the surprise factor advantage, since no one expects a close range tank fit sader, so that might be the reason for your success.
Intigo Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.12.05 13:52:00 - [10] Edited by: Intigo on 05/12/2009 13:54:46 The Crusader fit is fine, Gatlings are not "loldps" when backed by damage mods. Any good Taranis will still rip it to shreds though, but that goes for any other Interceptor as well. Originally by: Torpir Lee It still looks like a ranis wannabe to me. You have the surprise factor advantage, since no one expects a close range tank fit sader, so that might be the reason for your success. ... Go stick to long-range Saders and get caught by anyone remotely competent because you're bad at piloting it. Jeez, you have no idea what you're talking about. Long range Sader is fine, but most people who fit Crusaders have no idea what they're doing. Not to mention it's extremely risky as good pilots will get you inside their web range whether you like it or not. ___________________ HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it.
kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 14:01:00 - [11] Quote: Two of the three I glaced at are not valid fits according to your own EFT screenshot (Punisher Laser uses to much CPU, Harbinger Plate uses two much Power). Yes their are implants to help you fit them 1% cpu/grid implants range from 500k - 4-5million isk and the 3%'s are typically 20-30 million isk. They are worth the investments if you wish to get the most out of your ship. Quote: It still looks like a ranis wannabe to me. You have the surprise factor advantage, since no one expects a close range tank fit sader, so that might be the reason for your success. Taranis are an odd ball, plate setups are more successful against me, speed fit or all damage fit ones tend to die to me. I will try to explain why, Gatling pulse have with scorch loaded a good 5-7km range and very high tracking. It does take awhile for the orbits to settle for the Taranis's blasters to start doing the business, it can go either way, however with overload and superior tracking the fight most definitely becomes interesting. Ive only died to 1 taranis so far solo 1v1. He was plate fit, every other fit with overdrives and fits relying on dmg mods and damage controls have died to me. Though this is from memory. Again you really dont have to take my word for it, if you think its a bad fit then ofc that is your decision. I can only explain my experience with it.
kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 14:10:00 - [12] Quote: Long range Sader is fine, but most people who fit Crusaders have no idea what they're doing. Not to mention it's extremely risky as good pilots will get you inside their web range whether you like it or not. Its funny actually but if anyone knows who Lyria Skydancer is, he was well know for his Crusader pvp videos. Always flew a longer ranged Crusader. Now if he was caught and killed by me, i would say anyone is. Time your MWD overload right and you will pull range believe me. Once they are in range their paper thin hitpoints are a breeze to melt through. The timing of your MWD overloading is key, good long range pilots will overload aswell, but it is very rare they can do it and if you really are having trouble catching them. Overload out of Scram range and warp off.
Torpir Lee Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.12.05 14:10:00 - [13] Originally by: Intigo Edited by: Intigo on 05/12/2009 13:54:46 The Crusader fit is fine, Gatlings are not "loldps" when backed by damage mods. Any good Taranis will still rip it to shreds though, but that goes for any other Interceptor as well. Originally by: Torpir Lee It still looks like a ranis wannabe to me. You have the surprise factor advantage, since no one expects a close range tank fit sader, so that might be the reason for your success. ... Go stick to long-range Saders and get caught by anyone remotely competent because you're bad at piloting it. Jeez, you have no idea what you're talking about. Long range Sader is fine, but most people who fit Crusaders have no idea what they're doing. Not to mention it's extremely risky as good pilots will get you inside their web range whether you like it or not. So your argument is that because most long range sader pilots are bad then a short range sader fit is superior? BAD PILOTS LOSE AGAINST SKILLED PILOTS OMAGAWD
kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 14:15:00 - [14] Torpir Lee, please dont take offense to this, but you do know that Warp Scramblers turn off your targets MWD right? A burst of heat and one mistake, seriously one mistake by a ranged setup and its dead. If you can do it then, fair play to you. Ive never seen it done though, at least not without me being able to escape.
Torpir Lee Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.12.05 14:21:00 - [15] Originally by: kessah Torpir Lee, please dont take offense to this, but you do know that Warp Scramblers turn off your targets MWD right? A burst of heat and one mistake, seriously one mistake by a ranged setup and its dead. If you can do it then, fair play to you. Ive never seen it done though, at least not without me being able to escape. I'll accept the fact that against a skilled pilot, maintaining range in a lr pulsader requires a very skilled pilot, since my experience with ceptors is limited. Out of curiousity, if a pulsader pilot was fit properly(2x nano's, 14km optimal), wouldn't that give him more time to react?
Intigo Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.12.05 14:24:00 - [16] kessah, none of the Ranises you've killed have been any good. Any good dual prop Ranis will completely destroy your MWD/Scram Sader and if you think otherwise you are clueless. Because you beat bads in it does not mean it will beat a good Taranis - it won't. AB/Scram Sader on the other hand... Originally by: Torpir Lee So your argument is that because most long range sader pilots are bad then a short range sader fit is superior? BAD PILOTS LOSE AGAINST SKILLED PILOTS OMAGAWD You're not very bright. You don't get enough optimal on a Range Sader, hence it is only viable in very few cases by really good pilots (like Raimo and some of his FW buddies). You are more than welcoem to bring a range Sader vs any of the combat Inties I fly and I'll show you what happens against someone who knows how to control range. ___________________ HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it.
kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 14:29:00 - [17] I have seen some pilots that have reacted to my overload in time, but in response to that i turn 180 degrees and head into the opposite direction, the now fleeing pilot, still wanting to chase me approached me with his overloaded speed. Its then a simple matter to burning back to him with an overloaded Warp Scram and bam. Toasted ceptor. Not forgetting of course, every time im out of range of his damage im repping back lost HP. The biggest problem i have and its not really been one yet because everyone thinks its a rubbish ceptor, is if i come across a Claw, because that is imho the best interceptor. Id bet money that my Claw would tear apart nearly all Taranis pilots, especially now that Republic Fleet Fusion has been increased in damage multiplier.
Intigo Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.12.05 14:32:00 - [18] Yeah...that's also wrong. How do you expect to beat a Taranis exactly? If you're using the 400mm Neut fit you will just be kited outside Neut range and a 200mm SAR fit will not be able to keep up with the damage from the Taranis unless he's getting some lucky misses. ___________________ HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it.
kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 14:47:00 - [19] Originally by: Intigo Edited by: Intigo on 05/12/2009 14:37:54 Yeah...that's also wrong. How do you expect to beat a Taranis exactly? If you're using the 400mm Neut fit you will just be kited outside Neut range and a 200mm SAR fit will not be able to keep up with the damage from the Taranis unless he's getting some lucky misses. Edit: Not to mention the fact that neither of them will be able to keep the Taranis in place which means you won't actually get a kill - you'll just get a 'gf' in local and some damaged modules from overheating while the Taranis runs off. Intigo calm down man, im not saying your dual prop setup is bad or even disagreeing with you, im only stating that its depending on initial conditions. Im not really wrong because i said nearly all Taranis The Claw is underrated, from that counter argument you made, the SAR takes 46 dps off what you are doing to me, its certainly not meant to tank that sort of damage, but it will help me hold my 5k of effective hp's holding long than your small hull buffer. I would probably load up barrage to force you off. You will need to hold a steady range of 8-9km if you want to hold me there, Barrage can hit out to that range and the initial damage you might sustain while getting to that range might be enough time for me to do some critical damage. Its not impossible, im not really wrong, but it would make an interesting match up.
Intigo Amarr Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.12.05 15:09:00 - [20] You mean the 'small hull buffer' that has only 1k less EHP than the Claw but almost twice the DPS? Yeah, that's very small - I totally see what you mean. ___________________ HELLO! My name is Inigo Mont...oh f' it.
kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 15:14:00 - [21] Originally by: Intigo You mean the 'small hull buffer' that has only 1k less EHP than the Claw but almost twice the DPS? Yeah, that's very small - I totally see what you mean. Ok i can see i wont be able to change your mind to even the remote chance of the claw winning. Im going to end this discussion with you now about it as its futile (not to mention irrelevant to this thread topic), also your tone and disrespectful manner to me and others discussing in this thread is unmaintainable. You seem out to cause a conflict with me and i do not wish to be a part of that.
Garia666 Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E The Volition Cult	Posted - 2009.12.05 15:35:00 - [22] i like your bs fits. very practical www.garia.net
Stuart Price Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2009.12.05 18:10:00 - [23] Edited by: Stuart Price on 05/12/2009 18:12:29 Kes, I love you and I know from experience that you know your ****, but a few things: 1. Crusader - I'm not going to add to the insanity of the flame war, but for solo I really prefer the locus fit - it's easier to disengage using that. The scram one over-commits imho. It's a solid fit, but one better suited to fighting either close to home or in a small group. I've had as much success with the locus fit as you've had with the scram fit so I'd say both are viable. It's interesting to note that my locus fit has only been consistently defeated by scram-saders, usually murdering everything else :p 2. Curse without TD's = failcurse. Missile ships will mess you up either way but the TD's make you immune to turrets. IMMUNE! I favour the use of launchers and ridiculous amounts of nano but I always make room for TD's because of their effectiveness from a Curse. That way I have the speed to avoid missile ships and the ability to defeat (nearly) any turret ship I encounter. 3. Shield 'binger I'd go with a Disruptor over a scram, but that's personal preference as I tend to use the shield one in gangs and kite with it. Everything else I like, although my prejudice against mixed gun sizes means I'll still be using my own fits (which otherwise are freakishly similar). Putting the 'irate' into 'Pirate'
Deva Blackfire Viziam	Posted - 2009.12.05 18:19:00 - [24] Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 05/12/2009 18:24:28 1. crusader - decent setup tho i prefer 2x anp, heatsink, dc + 2x damage rigs. taranis style - do it or die (plus it hits around 180-190dps). Tho id still take taranis over sader any day. 2. pilgrim - mwd + scrambler? :X Yes yes it works for killing NPCers but so do bombers tbh. Any pvp ship will just eat it. Id propose gunpilgrim here myself ;p 3. sacri. web is a must. You have no anti-frig defence on it whatsoever. One frig + your drones down (not that hard with 3 unbonused smalls) and you sit there tackled waiting for his friends to come and finish you off. Imo drop the lol-ab and put web (even better gallnavy web) and change scrambler to disruptor. If you want to play in scrambler range buy a drake.
Dodgy Past Amarr Lollipops for Rancors	Posted - 2009.12.05 18:27:00 - [25] Originally by: Stuart Price 3. Shield 'binger I'd go with a Disruptor over a scram, but that's personal preference as I tend to use the shield one in gangs and kite with it. Same, seems to be becoming quite popular fit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- you seem determined to turn it into ******* Hollyoaks for neckbeards.
kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 20:07:00 - [26] The odd one module change, scram, disruptor etc is again personal preference and players will get to grips with that and find their own style. As for webs, well most combat i find are on gates and stations so if for any reason i was in abit of trouble like that i know i can escape. Again though the Dual Prop setup on the sacrilege is a life saver at times, web if you want or whatnot again depends what your up against.
Kingwood Amarr Hello Kitty Pyjama Piwates	Posted - 2009.12.05 20:46:00 - [27] Edited by: Kingwood on 05/12/2009 20:48:51 That's my exact Sader fit! Except I use damage rigs instead of the Memory cells you seem to prefer. Any reason why you put those on? I don't engage competent Ranises with this, but it's awesome for everything else.
kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 20:58:00 - [28] Edited by: kessah on 05/12/2009 20:58:12 Originally by: Kingwood Edited by: Kingwood on 05/12/2009 20:48:51 That's my exact Sader fit! Except I use damage rigs instead of the Memory cells you seem to prefer. Any reason why you put those on? I don't engage competent Ranises with this, but it's awesome for everything else. More cap, more reps, i find myself capping out if i need to burn a long way to a target or the fight lasts longer than expected. I used to use dmg rigs though.
Caleb Fury Amarr Did I just do that	Posted - 2009.12.05 22:06:00 - [29] Nice work Kessah. Intigo seems so be in a bile-spitting mood. So disregard and take solace in the fact that you have contributed more that just silly internet venom on teh forums.
kessah Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2009.12.05 23:27:00 - [30] Originally by: Caleb Fury Nice work Kessah. Intigo seems so be in a bile-spitting mood. So disregard and take solace in the fact that you have contributed more that just silly internet venom on teh forums. Thanks Caleb, i was as polite and as understanding as one can be. Its up to him if he wishes to get nasty. Thanks again for your encouragement.

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