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MeatSlab
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Posted - 2009.12.07 23:36:00 -
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"Griefing" other players = bad, unless its within the game mechanics. Kinda a thin line really. But then whats what. We all know that can flipping in noob space is a form of frowned upon grieving. It can get you banned! On the other hand. Suicide a player in a hauler in Jita and its allowed because it is within the mechanics of the game?
What exactly is griefing? - "A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersĘ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players." ( full link here Linkage).... So what is the difference? If you only do it every now and then it is allowed? If you make isk from it its allowed? If you are able to do it, is that not the game mechanics?
You can bait noobs and sell the loot from their wreakage. (note the new feature abandon can) You can suicide other players and sell their loot as well. Corp theft... What about that? A profit their!
I just recently was suicide ganked in Jita. I lost alt of isk. Caused me some "grief" (not cryn). Thats the mechanics of the game. It has defined my game play. So really the conclusion here is the mechanics exist to cause grief. In other words if you can do it. that is what it was designed to do. Eve is a game designed to cause havoc and go in guns blazing, blowing up everything in sight. No room for small talk or a big hug. Eat or be eaten!
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Shade Millith
International House of PWNCakes
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Posted - 2009.12.08 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Shade Millith on 08/12/2009 00:04:38
Originally by: MeatSlab I just recently was suicide ganked in Jita. I lost alt of isk.
No ****? I guess your other whining thread wasn't enough to announce that you were suicide ganked, so you had to make a new one.
Quote: Caused me some "grief" (not cryn)
This is your second thread, stop crying.
Quote: Eat or be eaten!
No **** right? You finally work that out after a supposed 2 years play?
Quote: Suicide a player in a hauler in Jita and its allowed because it is within the mechanics of the game?
CONGRATULATIONS You've worked it out....
Quote: What exactly is griefing? - "A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersĘ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players." ( full link here Linkage).... So what is the difference? If you only do it every now and then it is allowed? If you make isk from it its allowed? If you are able to do it, is that not the game mechanics?
....wait, never mind, you haven't
Get over it, stop crying, you lost 300 mil and made some other bloke 300 mil because you didn't learn. A GM has even told you though petition that 1.0 space still isn't completly safe.
Get
Over
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MeatSlab
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Posted - 2009.12.08 00:18:00 -
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My other topic is doing fine, your an ass. I am just posting other ****. god you people are jerks
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Drakan290
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Posted - 2009.12.08 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: MeatSlab My other topic is doing fine, your an ass. I am just posting other ****. god you people are jerks
Your name goes very well with your intelligence.
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Paul Clavet
Honorless Internet Jerks
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Posted - 2009.12.08 00:36:00 -
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Someone said something about Jerks? ---- Blog: My Loot, Your Tears |
Miyamoto Isoruku
Caldari The Phoenix Enclave
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Posted - 2009.12.08 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: MeatSlab My other topic is doing fine, your an ass. I am just posting other ****. god you people are jerks
o//
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Roastedpot
Blutkinder
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Posted - 2009.12.08 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku
Originally by: MeatSlab My other topic is doing fine, your an ass. I am just posting other ****. god you people are jerks
o//
im disappointed in you...
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Alekseyev Karrde
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Posted - 2009.12.08 00:42:00 -
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yes eve is a ruthless and dangerous place. that's the point; learn to love it or leave ---
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Pater Peccavi
Minmatar The Bastards
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Posted - 2009.12.08 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Miyamoto Isoruku
Originally by: MeatSlab My other topic is doing fine, your an ass. I am just posting other ****. god you people are jerks
o//
\\o /o/ \o\
\o/ ^o^ (o( /o\ _________
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Chajitsoyo
Gallente Sanford Space Salvage
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Posted - 2009.12.08 01:28:00 -
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you know... suicide ganking is a bad thing. Really. But you know what's worse? what irks me to NO END?
Every time I microwave the frozen macaroni and cheese following the instructions... there's always that cold cheesesicle somewhere hiding in the middle
I HATE THAT. don't even get me started on hotpockets.... ---------------------------------
Everything in moderation, including moderation. |
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Hatarii Hiko
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Posted - 2009.12.08 01:46:00 -
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cheesesicle
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TimMc
Gallente Psykotic Meat Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 02:06:00 -
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Only thing you can get in trouble for is killing newbies in starting systems. Other than that, everything is fair game. Adapt or die, or leave.
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Kung'Fu Tzu
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Posted - 2009.12.08 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Chajitsoyo you know... suicide ganking is a bad thing. Really. But you know what's worse? what irks me to NO END?
Every time I microwave the frozen macaroni and cheese following the instructions... there's always that cold cheesesicle somewhere hiding in the middle
I HATE THAT. don't even get me started on hotpockets....
Quit Crying and learn to cook.
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Grarr Wrexx
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Posted - 2009.12.08 02:28:00 -
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High-security, not perfect-security.
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Meat Explosion
Caldari Hsnopi's Palace of Waffles and Sin MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.12.08 02:29:00 -
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You bring shame to meat products everywhere.
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Armoured C
Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.08 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: MeatSlab "Griefing" other players = bad, unless its within the game mechanics. Kinda a thin line really. But then whats what. We all know that can flipping in noob space is a form of frowned upon grieving. It can get you banned! On the other hand. Suicide a player in a hauler in Jita and its allowed because it is within the mechanics of the game?
What exactly is griefing? - "A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersĘ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players." ( full link here Linkage).... So what is the difference? If you only do it every now and then it is allowed? If you make isk from it its allowed? If you are able to do it, is that not the game mechanics?
You can bait noobs and sell the loot from their wreakage. (note the new feature abandon can) You can suicide other players and sell their loot as well. Corp theft... What about that? A profit their!
I just recently was suicide ganked in Jita. I lost alt of isk. Caused me some "grief" (not cryn). Thats the mechanics of the game. It has defined my game play. So really the conclusion here is the mechanics exist to cause grief. In other words if you can do it. that is what it was designed to do. Eve is a game designed to cause havoc and go in guns blazing, blowing up everything in sight. No room for small talk or a big hug. Eat or be eaten!
so warp core stabs ?
using transport ship ?
had a scout ?
value of the cargo worth less than the ship?
if your answer is no to any of those questions then you deserved to have your ship lost as all these right there are things to help your prevent such a incident occurring. You only have yourself to blame
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Navtiqes
Space Sheriff
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Posted - 2009.12.08 07:38:00 -
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Get over it. There's no such thing as griefing in EVE. To be griefing it'd have to be against the intended gameplay, which player-player action isn't here. Serious. |
Empire Dweller
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2009.12.08 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Chajitsoyo you know... suicide ganking is a bad thing. Really. But you know what's worse? what irks me to NO END?
Every time I microwave the frozen macaroni and cheese following the instructions... there's always that cold cheesesicle somewhere hiding in the middle
I HATE THAT. don't even get me started on hotpockets....
Try stirring the mac n cheese when its half way done microwaving.
As for hotpockets- hotpockets are the DEVIL!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.12.08 07:52:00 -
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Suicide ganking is, by the way, one of the reasons I prefer to move large and valuable loads via courier contract. I see it as an insurance policy. If the courier is destroyed, I keep the collateral (which is always higher than what I would sell stuff for anyways). Not always an option if you want something moved into low-sec or put up a tower, but you CAN use them to move the valuable goods a few jumps out of the major trade hubs where the suicide gankers hang out, then you're pretty much out of harm's way. And: Autopilot is evil.
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Lana Torrin
Minmatar Republic Military Skool
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Posted - 2009.12.08 08:02:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Griffin If the courier is destroyed, I keep the collateral (which is always higher than what I would sell stuff for anyways).
If you put it REALLY high then you start to WISH it was destroyed.. In fact, you start to wonder if you should be helping it get destroyed...
Originally by: Alekseyev Karrde
HYDRA PROVAIL!
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Dipluz
Caldari PodPal
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Posted - 2009.12.08 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: MeatSlab "Griefing" other players = bad, unless its within the game mechanics. Kinda a thin line really. But then whats what. We all know that can flipping in noob space is a form of frowned upon grieving. It can get you banned! On the other hand. Suicide a player in a hauler in Jita and its allowed because it is within the mechanics of the game?
What exactly is griefing? - "A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersĘ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players." ( full link here Linkage).... So what is the difference? If you only do it every now and then it is allowed? If you make isk from it its allowed? If you are able to do it, is that not the game mechanics?
You can bait noobs and sell the loot from their wreakage. (note the new feature abandon can) You can suicide other players and sell their loot as well. Corp theft... What about that? A profit their!
I just recently was suicide ganked in Jita. I lost alt of isk. Caused me some "grief" (not cryn). Thats the mechanics of the game. It has defined my game play. So really the conclusion here is the mechanics exist to cause grief. In other words if you can do it. that is what it was designed to do. Eve is a game designed to cause havoc and go in guns blazing, blowing up everything in sight. No room for small talk or a big hug. Eat or be eaten!
and I love it everytime I get mailed about people petitioning me for ruining their day, as a pirate
Thing about ur little post, people can call it whatever they want. They just died and now they wanna air their opinion, but thing is eve is as cold and brutal as place as a real life war zone, and as long as you dont use some sort of unknown exploit or smack with prohibited content (racist jokes and so forth) CCP isnt gonna do anything about it and that is the real reason I still play this game!
Long Live Freedom!
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2009.12.08 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lana Torrin
Originally by: Andrea Griffin If the courier is destroyed, I keep the collateral (which is always higher than what I would sell stuff for anyways).
If you put it REALLY high then you start to WISH it was destroyed.. In fact, you start to wonder if you should be helping it get destroyed...
I absolutely do not, under any circumstances, attempt to move large worthless items with high collaterals to and from low-sec systems, and if I did I would never, ever notify pirate groups that a courier had just accepted my contract... Ever... That would just be mean!
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Dennmoth Ferdier
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Posted - 2009.12.08 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: MeatSlab "Griefing" other players = bad, unless its within the game mechanics. Kinda a thin line really. But then whats what. We all know that can flipping in noob space is a form of frowned upon grieving. It can get you banned! On the other hand. Suicide a player in a hauler in Jita and its allowed because it is within the mechanics of the game?
What exactly is griefing? - "A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersĘ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players." ( full link here Linkage).... So what is the difference? If you only do it every now and then it is allowed? If you make isk from it its allowed? If you are able to do it, is that not the game mechanics?
You can bait noobs and sell the loot from their wreakage. (note the new feature abandon can) You can suicide other players and sell their loot as well. Corp theft... What about that? A profit their!
I just recently was suicide ganked in Jita. I lost alt of isk. Caused me some "grief" (not cryn). Thats the mechanics of the game. It has defined my game play. So really the conclusion here is the mechanics exist to cause grief. In other words if you can do it. that is what it was designed to do. Eve is a game designed to cause havoc and go in guns blazing, blowing up everything in sight. No room for small talk or a big hug. Eat or be eaten!
I got scammed out of 800 million isk, of which 200 million wasn't even mine. After receiving the isk the guy said thank you for the iskies and was never heard from again. Was it his wrong doing? Hell no. Was it due to me being unforgivably stupid? Very much so. I felt a bit bad about it, not angry, just bad. I shrugged if off in a couple of days because I knew why it happened and whose fault it was.
On another day, I autopiloted my uninsured Providence freighter of 930 million isk (at the time) after some nice tritanium sales. I normally have the market configured so that it leaves out all lowsec offerings. What I had forgot that on my previous trip a few days before I had disabled the filter. I autopiloted my freighter in to 0.4 and 30 minutes later came to the computer looking at my pod floating in the middle of the screen.
First reaction was "oh crap", I checked how/why it had happened. I had a nice chat with a couple of the guys showing on the killmail (got my 1 m3 of dolls back that dropped instead of 200 million worth of trit that got destroyed).
Felt bad about that too for a while. Got over it it a few days.
Lesson learned? Nope, no lesson learned. I already knew if I get screwed over, it's not really anyone else's fault but mine. Other people don't screw me over, I screw myself over.
I love eve, but I know it will never show any love back ------ Dare to challenge me? |
Dipluz
Caldari PodPal
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Posted - 2009.12.08 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dennmoth Ferdier
Originally by: MeatSlab "Griefing" other players = bad, unless its within the game mechanics. Kinda a thin line really. But then whats what. We all know that can flipping in noob space is a form of frowned upon grieving. It can get you banned! On the other hand. Suicide a player in a hauler in Jita and its allowed because it is within the mechanics of the game?
What exactly is griefing? - "A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersĘ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players." ( full link here Linkage).... So what is the difference? If you only do it every now and then it is allowed? If you make isk from it its allowed? If you are able to do it, is that not the game mechanics?
You can bait noobs and sell the loot from their wreakage. (note the new feature abandon can) You can suicide other players and sell their loot as well. Corp theft... What about that? A profit their!
I just recently was suicide ganked in Jita. I lost alt of isk. Caused me some "grief" (not cryn). Thats the mechanics of the game. It has defined my game play. So really the conclusion here is the mechanics exist to cause grief. In other words if you can do it. that is what it was designed to do. Eve is a game designed to cause havoc and go in guns blazing, blowing up everything in sight. No room for small talk or a big hug. Eat or be eaten!
I got scammed out of 800 million isk, of which 200 million wasn't even mine. After receiving the isk the guy said thank you for the iskies and was never heard from again. Was it his wrong doing? Hell no. Was it due to me being unforgivably stupid? Very much so. I felt a bit bad about it, not angry, just bad. I shrugged if off in a couple of days because I knew why it happened and whose fault it was.
On another day, I autopiloted my uninsured Providence freighter of 930 million isk (at the time) after some nice tritanium sales. I normally have the market configured so that it leaves out all lowsec offerings. What I had forgot that on my previous trip a few days before I had disabled the filter. I autopiloted my freighter in to 0.4 and 30 minutes later came to the computer looking at my pod floating in the middle of the screen.
First reaction was "oh crap", I checked how/why it had happened. I had a nice chat with a couple of the guys showing on the killmail (got my 1 m3 of dolls back that dropped instead of 200 million worth of trit that got destroyed).
Felt bad about that too for a while. Got over it it a few days.
Lesson learned? Nope, no lesson learned. I already knew if I get screwed over, it's not really anyone else's fault but mine. Other people don't screw me over, I screw myself over.
I love eve, but I know it will never show any love back
Someone who finally got it, oh and btw Welcome to EvE
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 09:03:00 -
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I think you will find there is more nuance than that!
It's: "ruthlessly kill everything you think you can get away with killing"
At least that's how I play it
(obviously, I sometimes overestimate what I can get away with)
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.08 10:56:00 -
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I pretty much just attack anything. It isn't always good for my health.
Originally by: Tirus Sinobi Your response has set your intelligence barrier so low that anything you post from here on that breaches it, will have to be considered posted by somebody else.
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Millie Clode
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.08 11:31:00 -
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You know I've seen the light. I will never suicide gank another untanked hauler full of expensive stuff no matter how tempted I get.
I have realised that making my wealth by taking it from other players too stupid to protect their assets is wrong.
Henceforth I shall go and farm level 4s constantly in a ****-fitted raven since it's clear that honesty and one-dimensional gameplay are the only worthwhile aspects of playing an MMO.
Thanks to the OP for helping me through this difficult time in my life
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Alekseyev Karrde
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Posted - 2009.12.08 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Millie Clode You know I've seen the light. I will never suicide gank another untanked hauler full of expensive stuff no matter how tempted I get.
I have realised that making my wealth by taking it from other players too stupid to protect their assets is wrong.
Henceforth I shall go and farm level 4s constantly in a ****-fitted raven since it's clear that honesty and one-dimensional gameplay are the only worthwhile aspects of playing an MMO.
Thanks to the OP for helping me through this difficult time in my life
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Belkadan
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Posted - 2009.12.08 13:26:00 -
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I don't get it. Why did this person post? His OP was.....what....thinking out loud?
All I heard was........I got ganked.......WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Karadan Kaarwen
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Posted - 2009.12.08 13:33:00 -
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Really 'Meatslab' why the hell are you posting? You do understand that posting about being ganked garners you no empathy, and will probably add to names being thrown in your general direction, yes?
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NEMESIS SIN
FURY.
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Posted - 2009.12.08 14:03:00 -
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People turn on their X-box 360, boot up call of duty, and then they start shooting other people and dieing.
. . . they have fun.
These same people turn on their computer, boot up EVE, and suddenly their digital pixels are sacred. When they die they cry, and when they shoot at something else they apply ethical consequences to their actions.
You know that CCP are just a bunch of old school MMO griefers right?
If you don't want to play EVE stay in the NPC corp, even with the new taxes you will still be richer then God given enough time. Mission run and mine ore until you heart is content, so you can run missions faster and mine ore faster, so you can get even more missions and find even more asteroids to chew on.
Mkay?
Also . . . there is a reason you got ganked in jita. Fix the problem and it wont happen again.
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Davina Braben
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Posted - 2009.12.08 15:23:00 -
[32]
Griefing is anything that makes me chuckle for more than 60 seconds straight.
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Napalm985
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.08 16:42:00 -
[33]
To answer the question posted in the topic, ruthlessly killing everything IS a fun and enjoyable way to play EVE. I make a point of doing it as much as possible tbh.
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Belkadan
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Posted - 2009.12.08 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Belkadan on 08/12/2009 17:00:20
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Loqiel
Caldari Legio Fortunae
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Posted - 2009.12.08 18:58:00 -
[35]
I am ruthless. I have no ruth whatsoever. "A good plan executed violently now is better than a perfect plan executed sometime in the future." -Gen. George Patton |
jimmyjam
Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.12.08 19:04:00 -
[36]
Originally by: MeatSlab "Griefing" other players = bad, unless its within the game mechanics. Kinda a thin line really. But then whats what. We all know that can flipping in noob space is a form of frowned upon grieving. It can get you banned! On the other hand. Suicide a player in a hauler in Jita and its allowed because it is within the mechanics of the game?
What exactly is griefing? - "A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersĘ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players." ( full link here Linkage).... So what is the difference? If you only do it every now and then it is allowed? If you make isk from it its allowed? If you are able to do it, is that not the game mechanics?
You can bait noobs and sell the loot from their wreakage. (note the new feature abandon can) You can suicide other players and sell their loot as well. Corp theft... What about that? A profit their!
I just recently was suicide ganked in Jita. I lost alt of isk. Caused me some "grief" (not cryn). Thats the mechanics of the game. It has defined my game play. So really the conclusion here is the mechanics exist to cause grief. In other words if you can do it. that is what it was designed to do. Eve is a game designed to cause havoc and go in guns blazing, blowing up everything in sight. No room for small talk or a big hug. Eat or be eaten!
Yes once again no one cares thank you please come again!!
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Millie Clode
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.08 19:55:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Loqiel I am ruthless. I have no ruth whatsoever.
Would you like to buy one?
I have a ruth navy issue here, only 140 million
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Sir Fourhead
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.12.08 19:59:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Millie Clode
Originally by: Loqiel I am ruthless. I have no ruth whatsoever.
Would you like to buy one?
I have a ruth navy issue here, only 140 million
I have a baby ruth here, only .75 USD
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MeatSlab
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Posted - 2009.12.08 23:43:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Karadan Kaarwen Really 'Meatslab' why the hell are you posting? You do understand that posting about being ganked garners you no empathy, and will probably add to names being thrown in your general direction, yes?
Who the **** ends a sentence with yes
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MeatSlab
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Posted - 2009.12.08 23:48:00 -
[40]
Yes once again no one cares thank you please come again!!
and what makes you think I care that you do not. Not to mention you took the time to post.. so it makes me wonder.
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The Crushah
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.12.08 23:51:00 -
[41]
Originally by: MeatSlab
Yes once again no one cares thank you please come again!!
and what makes you think I care that you do not. Not to mention you took the time to post.. so it makes me wonder.
What makes you think I dont care about what makes you think I care that you do not?
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MeatSlab
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Posted - 2009.12.08 23:57:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Belkadan I don't get it. Why did this person post? His OP was.....what....thinking out loud?
All I heard was........I got ganked.......WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Thank you for taking the time to be ******ed on this topic. Dur
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MeatSlab
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Posted - 2009.12.09 00:09:00 -
[43]
Edited by: MeatSlab on 09/12/2009 00:11:58
Originally by: The Crushah
Originally by: MeatSlab
Yes once again no one cares thank you please come again!!
and what makes you think I care that you do not. Not to mention you took the time to post.. so it makes me wonder.
What makes you think I dont care about what makes you think I care that you do not?
ROFL
and what makes you think that I care that I think you dont care or care that you think that i think that you do not care or not IM BETTER MEAT THAN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BallistaII
8e5T Co0pRAt10n 1n Ev3 HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.09 00:13:00 -
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can u plz spare my life??? i have a girlfriend and no children.
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MeatSlab
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Posted - 2009.12.09 00:16:00 -
[45]
Originally by: BallistaII can u plz spare my life??? i have a girlfriend and no children.
Yes but the girlfriend has got to go
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BallistaII
8e5T Co0pRAt10n 1n Ev3 HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.09 00:18:00 -
[46]
Originally by: MeatSlab
Originally by: BallistaII can u plz spare my life??? i have a girlfriend and no children.
Yes but the girlfriend has got to go
whyy????
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MeatSlab
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Posted - 2009.12.09 00:25:00 -
[47]
Originally by: BallistaII
Originally by: MeatSlab
Originally by: BallistaII can u plz spare my life??? i have a girlfriend and no children.
Yes but the girlfriend has got to go
whyy????
Girlfriends are an eve kill
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Schwa88
Kiss My Assets
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Posted - 2009.12.09 00:45:00 -
[48]
Hahah, tears.
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hmmv50cal
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.09 01:27:00 -
[49]
tl;dr "CCP I demand you fix my stupid!"
HTFU.
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Chajitsoyo
Gallente Sanford Space Salvage
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Posted - 2009.12.09 09:23:00 -
[50]
the shining light ITT: The dolls survived ---------------------------------
Everything in moderation, including moderation. |
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Iyuvai Myoisi
Minmatar Calx Holding
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Posted - 2009.12.10 01:59:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Iyuvai Myoisi on 10/12/2009 02:00:06
Originally by: MeatSlab
I just recently was suicide ganked in Jita. I lost alt of isk.
Speaking as an alt of isk, I think your behavior is reprehensible.
My player keeps me safe and sound, out of respect for my proven ability to generate revenue for the team. Doing things like making sure that haulers are properly tanked and not flown AFK and that expensive gear is carried in ships appropriate to its size and value is the proper support that I expect for my mission, which is that of competing against others to fleece the marks, erm..."provide a valuable reselling service".
If my player were so incompetent as to fail to do those basic things, I'd seek other employment posthaste.
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Lysander Kaldenn
Dead Reckoning.
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Posted - 2009.12.10 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: MeatSlab No room for small talk or a big hug. Eat or be eaten!
Welcome to life in general dumbass.
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MeatSlab
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Posted - 2009.12.10 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lysander Kaldenn
Originally by: MeatSlab No room for small talk or a big hug. Eat or be eaten!
Welcome to life in general dumbass.
Your are what is wrong with the world today. I feel sorry for you.
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Doctor Cal'torien
Gallente The Vikings of the Black Sea
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Posted - 2009.12.10 05:15:00 -
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LACK OF CONTENT WARNING, WALL O' TEXT WARNING
(yes i'm doing it again)
----- this toon get's all it's conversation material from now on from: http://www.pakin.org/complaint disregard anything i have said, thank yew <confirming that i am indeed a forum alt> |
Sekretforumalt
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Posted - 2009.12.10 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Doctor Cal'torien <confirming that i am indeed a forum alt>
god i hate forum alts
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Kavu
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.10 07:39:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Sekretforumalt
Originally by: Doctor Cal'torien <confirming that i am indeed a forum alt>
god i hate forum alts
get a job
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Sekretforumalt
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Posted - 2009.12.10 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kavu
Originally by: Sekretforumalt
Originally by: Doctor Cal'torien <confirming that i am indeed a forum alt>
god i hate forum alts
get a job
hey m8 **** you
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Kavu
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2009.12.10 07:43:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Sekretforumalt
Originally by: Kavu
Originally by: Sekretforumalt
Originally by: Doctor Cal'torien <confirming that i am indeed a forum alt>
god i hate forum alts
get a job
hey m8 **** you
u cant **** with hydra u smallish hardened turd my ppl will make u sad for this
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MeatSlab
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Posted - 2009.12.10 09:07:00 -
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Forum war!!!!
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Toraltian2
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Posted - 2009.12.11 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Chajitsoyo
Every time I microwave the frozen macaroni and cheese following the instructions... there's always that cold cheesesicle somewhere hiding in the middle
I HATE THAT. don't even get me started on hotpockets....
Frozen Macaroni and cheese is the problem. Stir that ****. Did you know you can make old school kraft mac and cheese in the microwave? Also consider upgrading to cooking on a stove top and making cheeseburger macaroni which has the added benefit of protein. Adapt to the mac or Die.
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Private Member
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Posted - 2009.12.11 19:38:00 -
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Edited by: Private Member on 11/12/2009 19:38:15 Hey Meatslab...
I got what you're trying to say, but most people didn't seem to: ignore them, as they have an over-abundance of arse.
You're not crying about it, merely philosophising on the concepts behind the game mechanics, e.g. can something ever be considered griefing, if the whole system is designed to be used to grief? It paradoxically cannot be, since thats what its purpose originally was.
I like it.
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Whiteprincess
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Posted - 2009.12.11 23:48:00 -
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Originally by: MeatSlab
Your are what is wrong with the world today. I feel sorry for you.
This should have been dealt with before.
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Millie Clode
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.12 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Whiteprincess
Originally by: MeatSlab
Your are what is wrong with the world today. I feel sorry for you.
This should have been dealt with before.
I think it is fair to say that this will be dealt with
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2009.12.12 13:11:00 -
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the problem is that meatslabs basic assumption is wrong. He thinks the system is set up to encourage greifing when it actually enforces consequences for peoples actions.
-Engage Merovingian mode, activate pompous french accent-
Ergo Action - Not taking precautions when hauling expensive **** in empire Consequence - vastly increased chance of suicide gank as people on the lookout for a target realise this one is easier to take down than any other with increased chances of high profits.
Now im not denying that players do sometimes take pleasure in destroying an opponant that for whatever reason gives them no profit in doing so but thats not an indication that the system encourages it, simply that some people dont care about consequences or see that the consequences in this case fall on someone else not on them.
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MeatSlab
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Posted - 2009.12.15 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Private Member Edited by: Private Member on 11/12/2009 19:38:15 Hey Meatslab...
I got what you're trying to say, but most people didn't seem to: ignore them, as they have an over-abundance of arse.
You're not crying about it, merely philosophising on the concepts behind the game mechanics, e.g. can something ever be considered griefing, if the whole system is designed to be used to grief? It paradoxically cannot be, since thats what its purpose originally was.
I like it.
Thank you. Finnaly
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