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Wadaya
Trailerpark Industries
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:19:00 -
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You can sell 1 unit of carbon and 3 general freight containers on contracts, that will net you enough for 1 plex.
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Capitalist Swineherder
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:27:00 -
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I've been paying for 3 accounts with isk since August; two accounts since March. When I started on the endeavor to play for free I went in knowing that I enjoyed what I did to make isk and I could afford to pay real currency if I ever got bored of making isk or needed the isk for something else. I opened the third account since things were going so well to brew up some alts. I don't plan to keep the account open indefinitely. If it gets to be a burden I'll transfer the characters to one of my other accounts and close it.
If grinding out isk every month to buy PLEXes gets boring, I'll go back to paying out of pocket for the subscription or take a break from Eve. Basically if you have to pay by PLEX and you no longer enjoy what you're doing to get the ISK, why are you still playing?
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Major Cannabis
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Major Cannabis on 09/12/2009 16:46:24
Here's a suggestion, why not stop living off mommy and stop eating that mcDonalds, get a job to pay for your game? What a free loader! 
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Cosmo Kramma
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Cosmo Kramma on 09/12/2009 16:52:35
Is this guy kidding? Someone please give me a violin, and some napkins or sould we all chip in and pay for him?....Boo Hooo.....I wanna play....I wanna play...What a joke
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Zalinor
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:54:00 -
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come in 0.0!!!
Ratting in 0.0 allows you to make easily 15M isk per hour (15M isk is without salvage and loot, also it's not intensive ratting - 1/3 of the time afk) a pop can reach 6 to 7M max.
For one full days, you can count on 150 Misk.
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N Ano
Caldari
Gravijan
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Posted - 2009.12.09 16:58:00 -
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Boy did I rage. I can barely afford to keep 1 account going let alone 3 and I enjoy the game. Stop whining, cancel 2 subs and sell chars and then you have some nice amount of isk and just pay the goddamn 15 pounds like the rest of us!
CCP arent forcing you to own 3 accounts, CCP arent forcing you to pay 45 pounds a month for them nor are they forcing you to play the game at all!
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Mar Lee
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Posted - 2009.12.09 17:10:00 -
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Excellent troll.
10/10, would read again.
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Laciter
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Posted - 2009.12.09 17:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Narf Point
I believe the OP is actually complaining that he has to pay ú15.00 / character / month ($24.49 per Google) to play Eve. His only other option* is buying a 30 day PLEX. OP's problem with this, I believe, is people using US Dollars to buy the 60 Day GTCs are still only spending $35 for the pair (or whatever the cost is).
Having said that, OP, have you looked at buying GTCs yourself? You'll probably be charged a little extra for a currency conversion fee, but if you buy from a US dealer, it'd probably save you ú3 - ú4 / character / month.
As for the question of "Do plexes unbalance the game?", a person pays $35 for effectively 2 plex. Those go for around 300m each, so it's 600m. That's enough for some shiny toys, but you can blow through that in an instant. Besides, is it really so bad that people not suffering financially can enable other players to join in the fun?
* - Only option to continue playing Eve with 3 accounts.
+1
I also think that is what the OP is talking about. I am not sure why CCP can't equalize the price taking exchange rates into account. Different prices based on currency creates a segmented market, and it is a bit unfair he has to spend more real life money to get the same plex that I can get.
As far as the rest of it, if you are spending all your isk on your paid account just to support the subscription of your other accounts, then you aren't really exploring other parts of the game are you? Might as well just stick with one account and team up with others.
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Laciter
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Posted - 2009.12.09 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: SlayerOfArgus
You could even sell one of those accounts for in game isk. I mean I'd buy one off of you. I need another account to help me with lvl 4's and I'm willing to offer ingame isk for it.
I don't think account transfers are allowed, only character transfers.
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Opportunity Costs
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.09 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: Opportunity Costs on 09/12/2009 18:12:51
I guess this is another enslaved teenager, he "needs" to grind 23/7 to pay for his accounts 
Dude keep your mental sanity and unsubscribe for the 2 alt accounts. Either that or find a way to use them wisely and finance with 1h/day of gaming (it can be done)
hint: trading 
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Ivalobon
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Posted - 2009.12.09 19:45:00 -
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Edited by: Ivalobon on 09/12/2009 19:53:55
Edited by: Ivalobon on 09/12/2009 19:51:18
Edited by: Ivalobon on 09/12/2009 19:47:39
Just for those who don't bother to read the whole OP, my game time is limmited because of my work commitments, there is no mommy to live off and I don't eat prosessed junk from mcDonals that stuff will kill you. Tradiong is as boring as playing snakes and ladders solo.
But as usual you have all focused on the wrong thing the balance point is nothing to do with my isk situation that is just there for the purposes of putting things into prospective.
The whole point of this thread is the imbalance the plex makes for the game in general. The ultimate point I suspose comes at alliance lvl where because of plex sales one alliance may recover faster than another alliance and tip the balance into their favor. The point was that plex is making it to easy for some to recover from a ship loss and is I feel detracting from the skills.
As a side point I would add that that it has dragged your real life situations into a computer game because of the cash in your pocket. for the sake of an example why bother to skill for mining or even trading when you can easy replace your ship by selling plex. Surly that example alone if widly used is going to take some thing away from the game. You may as well just turn the game into a shoot em up and have done with it.
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Ava Starfire
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:01:00 -
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I have been unemployed for a year (no income IRL) and i have one account. I play on PLEX, have no isk issues at all (i have a rather cozy nest egg atm) and rarely need to run missions. It is NOT hard at all to make 300m; 2 days of missioning, if i tried, would net me that easily.
If you have 3 accounts and spend all your "time" grinding isk to buy PLEX, youre doing something horribly wrong. Maybe do as has been suggested, cancel 2 and try and make one liveable?
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Ivalobon
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:03:00 -
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its funny how even after I had made the post above this post people still focus on the wrong thing amazing
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Ava Starfire
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ivalobon
its funny how even after I had made the post above this post people still focus on the wrong thing amazing
Its funny how after several people have given you advice, you choose to post dumbass braindead ****.
Fair troll. Next time, pick one angle and roll with it, instead of switching from "i fail at eve, ccp fix my stupid" to "i suck irl, ccp fix my stupid"
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Major Cannabis
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:16:00 -
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Yo Yo man, I smoked way too much weed to read all this stuff, so you wont get a good answer from me
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Ivalobon
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ivalobon on 09/12/2009 20:17:34
Ava dude if you are unable to make proper comment on a subject stop posting all togeather odd how you acuse me of trolling yet you blert out stuff with out any self control and resort to the use of bad language to get your lame point across. sheesh
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:20:00 -
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If CCP sanctioned RMT should be allowed is a seperate discussion, but it wont change for sure. However if you wanted to discuss that, why did you write all the stuff of how poor you are you couldnt pay your 3 accounts anymore?
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D3F4ULT
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:23:00 -
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QQ?
Pay monthly with money and it won't be a burden. Don't want to pay monthly? OMG LOOK! you can make money ingame and buy time!!! Oh but you cry at that too.
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To be brutally honest being somewhat forced into do this each month is sucking the life out of the game for me.
The terminate button is on your character selection. The video game doesn't force you to play. Idiot.
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Ivalobon
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Ivalobon on 09/12/2009 20:24:57
well I put that there to put things into prospective ok in hind sight it looks like the wrong thing to do. because there are those in here who can't see past one thing at a time.
I love people who resort to insuslts just because they can you are truly to lazy to even read but not to lazy to take the time to type idiot. lol gasps with amazment.
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D3F4ULT
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ivalobon
well I put that there to put things into prospective ok in hind sight it looks like the wrong thing to do. because there are those in here who can't see past one thing at a time.
Look at it like this.
It's not changing. I think that's as much perspective you need right now.
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Azirapheal
Amarr
24th Imperial Crusade
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:28:00 -
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been playing since 06
one character on one account. and ive been blinky red since i was 3 weeks old.
never looked back and manage to have ALOT of fun.
best 15 bux ever
Originally by: Azirapheal
i never ever thought id live to see the day.... that titans were nerfed for being FOTM HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
SoonÖ
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Chaos Cross
Amarr
Soveriegn Radicals
Motivated and Determined
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:31:00 -
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LOL oh god this is rich... Basically you are saying, because you have 3 accounts and you can't pay for them, that you are struggling... LOL don't have 3 account's then have 1 problem solved... I know I am a miracle worker.
But not truth be told you sound like you have a problem if you couldn't come up with this yourself, I mean having more than 1 account, is YOUR choice, CCP doesn't base their monthly subscription around people with more than 1 account, so they can't really fix the price just for you.
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Ivalobon
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Ivalobon on 09/12/2009 20:34:16
Holy christ this is now getting to the point of being rediculous, even after I posted the post above the post above that and above the post above that you still focus on the wrong thing man are you all to lazy to read the whol OP.
well no one ever invoked a change by being quiet now did they, every revolusion started with one person. BTW you don't have to agree or disagree with that cos no one cares do, they according to you.
Bottom line here and guys I can not put this any simpler for you. Your real life cash situation should not be allowed to have an impact on a computer game be it in a good way or in a bad way. Nothing in real life should have an effect on what is make believe. Well not unless you take roll playing into your real life and dress up like a clingon 24/7. Which is tempting but I feel a line would be crossed if you did that.
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Tippia
Reikoku
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ivalobon
Holy christ this is now getting to the point of being rediculous, even after I posted the post above the post above that and above the post above that you still focus on the wrong thing man are you all to lazy to read the whol OP.
Maybe if you didn't dedicate half of the OP – the beginning half, where you should have presented the problem – to something you now claim is irrelevant, it wouldn't happen.
It would also help if the second half (and your actual argument) is based around the rather wierd concept that plexes are cheaper for some – wierd, because plexes are bought and sold in-game, on the market, with the same price being available to everyone. And if you actually meant GTCs, then… oops, no, you can buy those for the same price from pretty much anywhere in the world.
So, half the OP wasted on irrelevances, half the OP wasted on an argument based on a flawed premise, the actual question asked in the OP being "is it unbalancing that plexes are cheaper for some?" (which they aren't), and somehow, you're annoyed that people aren't arguing a completely different question, namely: Quote:
Your real life cash situation should not be allowed to have an impact on a computer game be it in a good way or in a bad way.
Tough. It's unavoidable.
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you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.”
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Slavemaster
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:50:00 -
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You know there are many free mmo out there :) If you get 30 mil per mission, thats 30h Total.
Thats less of 1/5 of the normal job for "Joe" you are living the Easy way m8
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Ivalobon
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ivalobon on 09/12/2009 20:59:05
Originally by: Slavemaster
You know there are many free mmo out there :) If you get 30 mil per mission, thats 30h Total.
Thats less of 1/5 of the normal job for "Joe" you are living the Easy way m8
That is a 4h 30 min commitment to eve a day for 7 days. Sounds like work to me rather than a distraction to fill your spare time after your day at work. or are you thinking on the lines of 15 hours a day over 1 week end. and again the real point of this thread has been lost on you.
Edit you dont get 30 mill per mission with every lvl 4 mission.
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D3F4ULT
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: D3F4ULT on 09/12/2009 21:01:23
Originally by: Ivalobon
That is a 4h 30 min commitment to eve a day for 7 days. Sounds like work to me rather than a distraction to fill your spare time after your day at work.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online
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Ivalobon
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:09:00 -
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ok obvoiusly you are not getting it are you so I'll put it this way.
if you have plenty of money ship loss is no problem for you cos you can sell plex to replace your ship and skills pay little or no part in gathering isk. Why bother to skill for mining or trading when you can replace lost isk by selling plex. Or for that matter why even bother to skill production just make eve a shoot em up and have done with it the coin slot only takes 30 day plexes.
You lose a ship you can by another with the sale of a Plex. yes turn eve into a shoot em up and have done with it but only the rich can play this part of the game.
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Laciter
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: Laciter on 09/12/2009 21:19:26
Originally by: Ivalobon
ok obvoiusly you are not getting it are you so I'll put it this way.
if you have plenty of money ship loss is no problem for you cos you can sell plex to replace your ship and skills pay little or no part in gathering isk. Why bother to skill for mining or trading when you can replace lost isk by selling plex. Or for that matter why even bother to skill production just make eve a shoot em up and have done with it the coin slot only takes 30 day plexes.
You lose a ship you can by another with the sale of a Plex. yes turn eve into a shoot em up and have done with it but only the rich can play this part of the game.
You should just start a new thread if you just want to focus on PLEX imbalancing the game. Although, I don't think it will get anywhere. Personally, I agree. PLEX is total crap. Most people who defend it are the ones who get free accounts from buying plex, but they ignore the people who sell PLEX. It is also inconsistent to complain about RMTs imbalancing the game when PLEX has the exact same effect on the in-game economy. But I am pretty sure the thread will get flamed anyway.
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Slavemaster
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:21:00 -
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You got it wrong, it makes the poor play for free.... :)
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