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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
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Posted - 2009.12.09 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 09/12/2009 19:45:48
Pator, Kulheim RSS, 111/12/09, for immediate release.
Rumormongers have no doubt already noticed corporations leaving Electus Matari. This is to confirm the following:
1) Yes, this has indeed happened. Gradient, SoE Roughriders, and Re-Awakened Technologies have left the alliance today. Yes, this obviously is in order to join the Tribal Liberation Force.
2) Yes, while technically away from the alliance, we still consider ourselves members of Electus Matari, and abide by its rules and regulations as far as possible. The ties that bind us together as an alliance are stronger than CONCORD bureaucracy.
3) This move is part of a premeditated campaign with defined goals and duration. We will rejoin the alliance when the goals have been accomplished or the preset duration ends, whichever happens sooner.
4) No, we will of course not explain the details of said campaign in public.
To Electus Matari blues: we will not for the most case actively seek corporation level positive standings for the duration of the campaign, but will rely on NRDS and our concentrating on the Militia targets. Should this pose problems of friendly fire, please contact the CEOs of the corporations; +5 to EM blues will be granted after simple confirmation of mutual standings.
For Electus Matari reds-for-crimes: we still consider you valid targets. You have been warned.
For the Caldari Militia: be adviced that we consider you KOS alongside the Amarr.
For our brothers and sisters in the fight: Let's go blow stuff up.
I hereby declare my oath of loyalty to the Minmatar Republic. I absolutely and wholly renounce all pledges, fidelities, and allegiances to any foreign sovereignties or powers. I swear to support and defend the Minmatar Republic, its people, policies, holdings, and agents, its sovereignty and the integrity of its territory against all enemies and usurpers, foreign and domestic. I will bear arms on behalf of the Minmatar Republic in times of war, and will perform civil service on its behalf in times of peace. I will obey, uphold, and defend its laws and treaties. I will perform work of national importance under governmental, military, or civilian direction as required by the Minmatar Republic in times of emergency. I make this commitment unreservedly, with no mental reservation or purpose of evasion.
With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Arkady Sadik
Minmatar
Gradient
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Posted - 2009.12.09 19:43:00 -
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With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Livia Verheor
Minmatar
Bionesis Technologies
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.12.09 19:47:00 -
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With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Bionesis Technologies
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Ethan Ardel
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Posted - 2009.12.09 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: Ethan Ardel on 09/12/2009 19:48:53
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Crazy Vania
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.09 19:49:00 -
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With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Gegi Wau
Minmatar
Gradient
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:05:00 -
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With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Gottii
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:09:00 -
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With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Kade Jeekin
Kinda'Shujaa
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:17:00 -
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A bold move, and most welcome.
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:17:00 -
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Since you Minmatar are a young race and still getting used to the whole "noble endeavour", "binding agreement" and "loyalty" side of existence, allow me to give you some pointers.
1) The oath of allegiance you made to the Shakorite dictatorship's militia is void as it was preceded by a similar oath to Electus Matari.
2) When in the Shakorite militia you are supposed to shoot your Caldari and Amarrian counterparts so the 'KOS' declaration is sort of moot.
No point in waging a war of aggression if you don't act aggressively .. you wouldn't want to stand out among the other treaty violators after all.
Hope that helped a little. The rules of civilized society can be tricky when first starting out.
Regards,
Veshta Yoshida.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 09/12/2009 20:23:45
 Originally by: Veshta Yoshida
1) The oath of allegiance you made to the Shakorite dictatorship's militia is void as it was preceded by a similar oath to Electus Matari.
We are not oath-bound to EM. Nor are we oath-bound to Sanmatar Shakor or the Tribal Liberation Front.
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2) When in the Shakorite militia you are supposed to shoot your Caldari and Amarrian counterparts so the 'KOS' declaration is sort of moot.
As a diplomat I find that whenever there is a possibility of ambiguity in relationships, it is better to be safe than sorry.
Elsebeth
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Seriphyn Inhonores
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:24:00 -
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Here's to our allies in the Republic; go kick some ass
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
We are not oath-bound to EM. Nor are we oath-bound to Sanmatar Shakor or the Tribal Liberation Front.
In that case you might want to edit out this part of your initial declaration:
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2) Yes, while technically away from the alliance, we still consider ourselves members of Electus Matari, and abide by its rules and regulations as far as possible. The ties that bind us together as an alliance are stronger than CONCORD bureaucracy.
With your keen eye towards avoiding ambiguity, surely you can see the conflict I am referring to. Having two masters with what I sincerely hope are different rules and regulations is quite impossible ..
If however Electus Matari has subjected themselves to follow all decrees and laws coming from the Madman of Pator, no edit will be needed .. I consider that very unlikely though hence my attempt to assist you avoid a possible future public relations disaster.
Regards,
Veshta Yoshida.
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Arnulf Ogunkoya
Minmatar
The Causality
Vanguard Venture Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:47:00 -
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Ms Yoshida you obviously aren't familiar with Electus Matari's charter. They are, and always have been, Republic loyalists. Rather explicitly so.
Granted they where set up during the Midular administration, but that affects their loyalty to the Republic and it's people not one bit.
Regards,
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Pol Macsliebh
Minmatar
Ek'u Tan
Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:50:00 -
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With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Veshta Yoshida
Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
We are not oath-bound to EM. Nor are we oath-bound to Sanmatar Shakor or the Tribal Liberation Front.
In that case you might want to edit out this part of your initial declaration:
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2) Yes, while technically away from the alliance, we still consider ourselves members of Electus Matari, and abide by its rules and regulations as far as possible. The ties that bind us together as an alliance are stronger than CONCORD bureaucracy.
With your keen eye towards avoiding ambiguity, surely you can see the conflict I am referring to. Having two masters with what I sincerely hope are different rules and regulations is quite impossible ..
Electus Matari is an alliance that exists to serve the Republic. We are members of the EM, because we share its goals, but we are not oath-bound to it.
Similarly, we follow the current government of the Republic, but we are not oath-bound to Sanmatar Shakor as a person, nor obliged to agree with him in everything.
Maybe this is a culturally difficult concept for an Amarr, but that's still how it is.
Elsebeth
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Neu Bastian
Minmatar
Valklear Guard
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:04:00 -
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Welcome to war, brothers.
I look forward to flying with you again...
as long as Else doesn't yell at me.
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Neu Bastian
Valklear Guard - CEO
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Insa Rexion
Minmatar
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Veshta Yoshida
Since you Minmatar are a young race and still getting used to the whole "noble endeavour", "binding agreement" and "loyalty" side of existence, allow me to give you some pointers.
1) The oath of allegiance you made to the Shakorite dictatorship's militia is void as it was preceded by a similar oath to Electus Matari.
2) When in the Shakorite militia you are supposed to shoot your Caldari and Amarrian counterparts so the 'KOS' declaration is sort of moot.
No point in waging a war of aggression if you don't act aggressively .. you wouldn't want to stand out among the other treaty violators after all.
Hope that helped a little. The rules of civilized society can be tricky when first starting out.
Regards,
Veshta Yoshida.
I bet you all read that and decided to just turn back around right ?
nit picking pedant vesh
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Veshta Yoshida
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Arnulf Ogunkoya
Ms Yoshida you obviously aren't familiar with Electus Matari's charter. They are, and always have been, Republic loyalists. Rather explicitly so.
Granted they where set up during the Midular administration, but that affects their loyalty to the Republic and it's people not one bit.
Yet they are now going to actively participate in the megalomaniac's war of aggression against the Empire .. how does that help anyone but Shakor?
There was peace and ever increasing compassion between us prior to his power play. Perhaps the idea is that if the blood is on enough people's hands no one notices it anymore?
Declaring to abide by laws and to call an organization/nation ones home is an oath of loyalty in every sense just without using but the actual word.
The oath you gave to the Minmatar Nation, is presently, an oath to Shakor. That is unless he has surreptitiously reinstated the rightful government and stopped "disappearing" dissenters.
The shame is that the Minmatar Nation was making such strides before it was usurped and turned into the abomination it is today. One can hardly even justify calling it a Republic any more.
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KillJoy Tseng
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:45:00 -
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Ms. Yoshida.
You do not know our objectives, you do not know how we operate, you do not seem to know or understand our loyalties. You do not know our hearts and minds and I sincerely doubt that you are even able to.
You have proven what you can do in space, and while I and mine don't agree with your ends we can respect your abilities in that area, and no doubt will come to do so more fully in time to come. But here, now, your words highlight your lack of comprehension and, in the end, do not matter.
See you in space.
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Alica Wildfire
Minmatar
Federal Investigations Agency
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:53:00 -
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Welcome to the trenches, Electus Matari. I have a hot beansoup ready at Abudban Tribal Liberation Force Station for you before you go out.
Good luck with your assignment!
Gute Jagd und fette Beute!
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Invelious
Amarr
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.12.09 22:33:00 -
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Intresting development. Its finally nice to see a alliance that has loyalties to one of the Empires, show that they are willing to go the distance to do what is necessary for their faction.
Welcome to the faction wars EM. May you ships be destroyed shiftly.
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KillJoy Tseng
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.09 23:00:00 -
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We would be far from the first. Vigilia Valeria split up at the outbreak of hostilities albeit in a different way; first forming VFOR which you were a part of for a while and then with 1PG coming into the fray themselves. PIE too, although their alliance was for other reasons rather than a true alliance of corporations. I'm sure there are others, though those are the groups that we've historically had direct experience against.
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Merdaneth
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 23:02:00 -
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And so the war escalates further.
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Invelious
Amarr
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.12.09 23:10:00 -
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Ahhh, yes, my mind as been cluttered of late. You are right KillJoy.
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Vaarun
Amarr
Imperio Obscura
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Posted - 2009.12.09 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: KillJoy Tseng
You do not know our objectives, you do not know how we operate, you do not seem to know or understand our loyalties. You do not know our hearts and minds and I sincerely doubt that you are even able to.
All that is a bit moot now.
Now you are a red star. Nothing more.
And like all red stars, I do not care why you are there. All I know is you have declared for our enemy, the aggressor in this war, a war which we will finish. The momentum of this current push may end it, or it may take another two years. It all depends upon your side, really. We are prepared to go the distance, which your corporations and alliances are not.
Oh, sure, you'll make your token appearances. Rattle sabres, kill ships, blow-through the arena with much-ado, but then you leave. You always do and rely upon sasawong to hold your side in stasis.
We have danced this dance for a long time now, but the Amarr always gain ground and hold it. You gain ground, lose it, and lose more on top of it.
The Minmatar lack the tenacity and discipline this war requires. Why risk the lives of your crews? Just leave now as if you had never come. I will not speak ill of it...
"To bring order to chaos, one must bring chaos to its knees."
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KillJoy Tseng
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.09 23:44:00 -
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Vaarun, anything you or, indeed I, say on here is of little consequence compared to our actions. Could have sworn you were with PIE though. Ah well, no matter.
Shall we see, then?
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Sophie Starsparrow
Minmatar
Starfish Operating Syndicate
Independent Faction
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Posted - 2009.12.09 23:54:00 -
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Best of luck, to you, the Militia, and all the other corps in the Republic that have granted leave time to their reservists in these dire times.
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Samiko Kei
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Posted - 2009.12.10 00:06:00 -
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Edited by: Samiko Kei on 10/12/2009 00:09:16
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CJ Walker
Minmatar
Gradient
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Posted - 2009.12.10 00:11:00 -
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With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Dame Death
Minmatar
The Reserves
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Posted - 2009.12.10 00:29:00 -
[30]
Good luck guys.
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Laerise
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.10 00:41:00 -
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So EM finally kneels to the tyrant Shakor?
We always knew you were a genocidal abomination of a race, to see the last bastion of reason fall is no surprise to me.
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Yvette Yutani
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Posted - 2009.12.10 01:11:00 -
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Edited by: Yvette Yutani on 10/12/2009 01:11:15
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KillJoy Tseng
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.10 01:16:00 -
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Good to hear from you too Laerise; thank you for the backhanded compliment actually. Calling us a bastion of reason, even if you're saying that such has now fallen, is more respect than I think I've ever seen you express for us. Look forwards to seeing you and the rest in space again.
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Dak Hakin
Gradient
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Posted - 2009.12.10 01:17:00 -
[34]
With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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I am the devil, and I'm here to do the devils work.
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr
Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2009.12.10 02:09:00 -
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So basicaly EM is joining minmatar militia couse SF is leaving area and minmatar front is about to collapse.Interesting.
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Bacchanalian
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2009.12.10 04:22:00 -
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Originally by: Merdaneth
And so the war escalates further.
One might think so at a glance, Merdaneth, but I can tell you from experience fighting both your lot and the Matari group in question that the former are far more likely to field hardware in space towards an end than the latter, and frankly neither are in my experience terribly inclined to do it when there is risk involved. Yourself excluded, I should add.
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Saikoyu
Amarr
Rho Dynamics
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Posted - 2009.12.10 05:51:00 -
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Well, this is an interesting turn. Good luck in the fight. I'll wave if I see you in Amamake.
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Altaen
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Posted - 2009.12.10 05:54:00 -
[38]
With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Sebastian Dawngreeter
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.10 09:14:00 -
[39]
With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Swatyy
Amarr
Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.12.10 11:06:00 -
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Fresh grist for the mill. I look forward to spilling your blood for glory and fame.
Welcome to the front lines.
xDIAx | Swatyy
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
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Posted - 2009.12.10 12:25:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Nur AlHuda
So basicaly EM is joining minmatar militia couse SF is leaving area and minmatar front is about to collapse.Interesting.
While I realize that there is nothing I can say to make you actually believe this, the truth is that this plan has been in the works days before we first heard of SF's plans.
Elsebeth
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Lord Maximullis
Amarr
Universal Army
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.10 12:46:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Maximullis on 10/12/2009 12:47:11
I, personally offer the warriors of Electus Matari my personal gratitude for making such a sacrifice for the Matari people. May you teach these arrogent 24th Crusade s**** the true meaning of vengence!
Libertas Victor!
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AROK1
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Posted - 2009.12.10 15:07:00 -
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With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Krystal Vernet
Minmatar
Gradient
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Posted - 2009.12.10 16:01:00 -
[44]
With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Keyran Tyler
Minmatar
Bionesis Technologies
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.12.10 16:09:00 -
[45]
With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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Julianus Soter
Gallente
Moira.
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Posted - 2009.12.10 16:40:00 -
[46]
I look forward working with Electus pilots directly as we fight our mutual enemies.
In the face of evil, the good must unite.
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Pendrivora
Minmatar
Bionesis Technologies
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2009.12.10 17:08:00 -
[47]
With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
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T'san Manaan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.12.12 01:53:00 -
[48]
Welcome to the fight.
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Math'ra Hiede
Amarr
Ordo Peregrinus
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Posted - 2009.12.12 04:14:00 -
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Of all groups I was least expecting this Elsebeth.
My respect for Electus Matari has always been very high, but with this move I am at least a little dissapointed.
May god have mercy on your souls, and those of your crews for you will find none under my guns.
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"Innocence Proves Nothing"
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Sepherim
Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
Ordo Magna
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Posted - 2009.12.12 13:44:00 -
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I am with Brother Hiede in this. You have all been strong defenders of the Republic, reasonable pilots with whom we could argue and speak even if we did it from the other side of the line. Years of defense of the Republic have now been thrown out to the vacuum. You are making it harder for peace to come back again, and have joined in an unlawful war.
I am sad to know this, and will pray for your return to sanity. Until then, I'll wait and let Brother Hiede and his Brothers and Sisters do the talking for me with their laserfire.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.12.12 13:51:00 -
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Electus Matari have endured and achieved much in only a few short years. Many have risen against you, intent on your destruction, and you yet abide. I wish you the best of luck - fly free, strike hard, and show the Sarumites the colour of their insides.
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Damar Rocarion
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Posted - 2009.12.12 14:36:00 -
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Edited by: Damar Rocarion on 12/12/2009 14:36:57
Today was the first official engagement between Electus Matari and TLF forces against Caldari State. State forces were engaged by numerically superior enemy force but we prevailed and destroyed all of the hostiles, losing one cruiser and frigate in the process.
Future appears interesting.
Damar Rocarion
Brigadier General
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar
Gradient
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Posted - 2009.12.12 21:30:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 12/12/2009 21:31:05
Originally by: Math'ra Hiede
Of all groups I was least expecting this Elsebeth.
Good. Helping the enemy to anticipate my moves is not high on my priority list.
Elsebeth
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2009.12.12 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Darius Shakor on 12/12/2009 21:40:20
How strange that the Amarr lurking on the galent find it unreasonable in some way for Electus Matari to step into the firing line to protect their homeland...
Ohh wait you want to take that home land from us. Now I understand your bias. *Sighs and rolls his eyes*
So your opinions are as pointless as your religion.
I am loyal to the Matari people, always. And owe the Amarr filth, their demon god and underhanded Caldari mercenaries nothing. And neither does anyone of my comrades.
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Mathhew Kane
Minmatar
Gradient
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Posted - 2009.12.12 22:11:00 -
[55]
May God bless us with Faith, Fury and Fire, to defend what is ours and to protect our allies.
With this oath, I affirm and assert my loyalty to the Minmatar Republic.
Matar Victor!
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Loyalty is simply slavery of ones own choosing. If ever you have the choice, Choose your master well."
My Step Father, Isikile Kane.
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.12 22:55:00 -
[56]
Burn.
But I have been saying that for a while now.
Deus Vult!
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Teddy Tazer
Minmatar
Vard School of Cryo Cuisine
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Posted - 2009.12.13 01:08:00 -
[57]
Good to hear ya joining the fight. Free Meatpies for all of ya in vard. 
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Ammatar Free Corps
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.12.13 02:40:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Gaven Lok'ri
Burn.
But I have been saying that for a while now.
I echo these sentiments.
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Dex Nederland
Caldari
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2009.12.13 03:57:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Elsebeth Rhiannon
For the Caldari Militia: be adviced that we consider you KOS alongside the Amarr.
Hopefully your campaign goals and those Caldari actually defending the State and its corporations' interest are not immediately opposed to each other.
If STPRO stay out of your front and you stay out of theirs you won't be shooting at each other.
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Andreus LeHane
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2009.12.13 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo
I echo these sentiments.
You quite obviously don't.
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