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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:03:00 -
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Step 1. Create alt, Create corp. Step 2. Recruit hundreds of noobs fresh to the game. Step 3. Get noobs to make nice website and videos. Nice Website and Video's Step 4. Ask for Donations often. (Noobs buy GTC and donate LOTS of isk)
TL;DR
Well all good things must come to an end. This operation could of gone so much further then it did but alas the story of Local Threat will have to end here. I did however manage to make 75 billion isk in 3 months. Which is a lot for me.
The most I stole before this was 15 billion isk worth in thanatos carriers that I stole from WI. (Which all sold in 1 day right back to their own members for all you haters last time that thought they would get stuck)
And before that was like 7 billion isk from Igneus Auctorita(goon corp THAT I BUILT FOR LULZ)
Anyways, I am moving up the chain of scams and corp thievery. I tried hanging out with GH-SC for a little bit, they are cool guys, but I am definetly more of a solo kind of guy, I guess I dont work well with others. Probably why I am so good at screwing people over.
Anyways, this time, I came up with a much better Idea, Well actually, let me rephrase that, I stole the idea from Tyrrax Thorrk. But I did however modify the idea from taking a year+ in work to only months.
So "his" original idea was to create a corp and get it into an alliance or possibly even create an alliance, but not just a random corp, A really good one that ends up getting into the position to pocket moon minerals on the side for a long time without other corps in the alliance noticing.
Well anyways, without getting too much into details that dont really matter, I went off on my own and created Local Threat and started recruiting with my awesome recruiting skills and I recruited 600+ people in just a couple months. I didnt do this all by myself, I found real honest hard working noobs and trained them up and they helped me lead this corp. I made a couple of them directors and trusted them with much.
But I didnt create just any corp, This corp turned out to be amazing, I realized that I was wasting time joining corps and building them up to steal from them later. All I had to do was recruit hundreds of noobs and sit back and do little. Take them on a roam a few times a week. Anyways, Without getting too into that because I dont really want to show others how what I did is possible. I just want to get to the bragging part.
Ok, what is there to brag about? Basically when you get HUNDREDS of brand new people interested in the game you have SOOOO many ways to exploit them, THey have no idea of any of the scams, you can show them how to buy GTC's. make them do anything you want. Seriously, I had a freaking army of noobs at my disposal, THey did whatever I wanted them to do, Even if that meant that they needed to donate to help pay for stuff.
There was many paypal donations aswell.
So how did I get away with all of this without them knowing? With help of course, that leads me back to the point about them doing whatever you want. I brainwashed all of them. And it worked for a long time, until I had to go inactive, then that gave them time to think.
Thats what leads me to the downfall of the story and why it could of been so much better.....
If I would of sticked with it I eventually could of gotten this corp into a very high position in the NC. (And I have always hated the NC, btw Hi.) The possibilities would have been limitless.
I did however manage to make 75 billion isk in the last 3 months and I have more assets then I know what to do with.
I didnt want the story to end here, but 1 of the 2 people I trusted ended up going off and telling the story to a lot of people which forced the hand. Local Threat with any possibility of being a trustworthy reputable corp was tarnished when my right hand man told the truth to all the corp members. Especially one of them being an ex director in GLD during the time I stole the 16 carriers. He didnt know it was me.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:09:00 -
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TL;DR Continued....
Ultimately I made the mistake in trusting someone, And you dont have to tell me, I know the way it is lol. But when it comes down to it, you can not manage hundreds of people and have trusted right hand men without them truly know whats going on. We just worked way too close together and especially with me pocketing the profits, I had to make sure they were on the same level as me.
Hell the paypal account is actually controlled by one of the directors, But that one I know definetly would not of screwed me over, because I know where he lives :)
I didnt get screwed over financially tho because I always made sure that I kept all the isk on my personal accounts, and the other director just bought GTC's with the money that was donated and that was all liquidated into isk, so overall my extreme paranoia did save me in the end. Money wise anyways.
Well anyways, Now all the Local Threat people are going to their new corp, called SALUS NOVUS. Lead by AngryAndy(The 1 out of 2 people I trusted) And I hope you dont read my text wrong, I just think he deserves the credit.
They have joined the other razor sister alliance called United Front Alliance. UFA will be taking Elysiums space. (Btw, for any of you that dont know, Elysium is a sister alliance of Razor controlled by Hk9. <~~The razor official I had to trick into believing local threat was a gaming group that came from some random korean game called rising force online lol.
I made him believe that we were goon 2.0 and that we were going to make goons look small, But keep in mind we did have 670 members at 3 months so it was believable.
Anyways, so yea, thats my story, it ends short I guess, in terms of what I had planned, BUT. I do have the ability to create huge legitimate corps over night and get into any of your alliances if I truly want too.
Anyways, Long story short, I just wanted to post this to inspire any thiefs out there to go out, and create huge corps over night and have fun at the expense of hundreds of noobs when you take them out to all suicide on your mains smartbombing battleship lol or when you ask hundreds of new enthusiastic players for donations and show them all how to buy GTC.
You too can make 75 bil in 3 months. (probably more, I didnt really try hard)
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: MrRx7
Originally by: Skoot
words
If anyone wants the above's contact info, ip address, address, etc let me know... He was not smart enough to hide any of them.
Cheers.
Oh No! Not my IP!
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:24:00 -
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If i dont see a significant donation to C4w3 Skoot ... im ganna im ganna cry you OWE me this you have to agree with that right right?
Nice scam!
hey c4, funny story, one of my original Local Threat guys is the original corp 1 ceo, chi lol.
He emorage quit again tho.
And to dude asking if I am pro bob or goon.
Besides GH-SC I dont really keep in contact with anyone. I am more of a believer of everyone is fair game.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie Cool story bro? Try better next time.
75 bil with 650 people in three months? That is totally crap income.
You should have made in 3 months at least 750 bil if done the right way.
650 people was the number to trick razor into believing we were a real corp, hundreds of people that were recruited were 1 day old alts that never logged back in.
But that is the thing, I wasnt actually there most the time. It was an alt corp.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Skoot There was many paypal donations aswell.
Scamming in-game etc, fair play (a shame for the noobs, but hey welcome to EvE).
Scamming out of RL cash via PayPal?
Not so sure I'd be admitting to that one...
People donated RL money because it was their personal choice out of game to do. Wasn't a scam. In fact none of this was a scam, it was a legitimate corp.
Everyone is thinking this is a scam or this is stealing, but its neither. What I am saying it, You can make a lot of isk by recruiting loads of noobs and asking for donations. Because noobs buy GTC's.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dusty Monkey
Quote: DECEPTION OFFENCES 2.13 The Theft Acts create eight offences of dishonestly getting something by deception, namely: (1) obtaining property; (2) obtaining a money transfer;
OSHI-
If corp members out of game agree to donate money to help pay for hosting then that is their choice and many corps do this. It is not uncommon.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Shad0w Hawk
Scamming for real money via paypal?
no
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Hardass01 Im X local threat and what you have here is a sad little man who just lie's all the time he took us for 7.5 mil isk not 75mil and we all left in a mass exodus and created an new corp with a proper leader you dhould have seen the tears he posted in our LT FORUM........ I respect you guys, and I dont want bad blood with any of you that I know.
LocalThreat is closing down due to my inactivity as a ceo, which is understanding. There is also a misunderstanding that this corp has bad intentions.
Local Threat started out with bad intentions, but it turned into a real corp, and we only had the best of intentions towards the end. That is honest, and I am sure andy will tell you that.
Andy started his own corp, which is fine, he is the ****ing man and deserves whatever he wants, I had to go inactive and work on RL, and he knew that he has full control of the control of the corp, if he felt that he needed to be ceo, then I respect his decision and he was right, I just wish he would of asked for ceo of Local Threat, because I WOULD HAVE GIVEN IT TO HIM. Like I said to him, he had full control.
As for me, Some of you may be upset because you are under the impression that at some point I was going to rip you all off, but that is not true. I would never, I actually have love for all of you. Even you hardass.
Please dont hate me guys. Like I said, it started out with bad intentions, but after a couple months, it was only good.
I really do love all of you and I really hope your new corp works out good. I really do want it to succeed. I am even going to leave the corp mail up about you guys so everyone knows to join you.
P.S. If this does'nt make sense, all you need to know is AngryAndy made a new corp and you need to go join it.
you make of that what you will as for the X members of LT well were stronger than ever and will only get bigger and better.
Thank you for showing everyone that there was no deception :)
If anyone doesnt understand what hardass said, That was my post to the forums letting everyone know how I feel.
As you see, it was a real corp and not a scam :)
That was the whole point of this thread, to show the thieves out there that you can make lots of isk by creating a real huge corp and not trying to steal. As for the 7.5 bil claim. You would have no idea, no one would, I pocketed profits rightfully as ceo many times without anyone knowing, not even andy.
7.5 bil is nothing.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sephiroth CloneIIV
Originally by: Metal Dude Congrats on being a s****bag. Karma is a ***** and I'm sure it will find you. Enjoy the pixels ISK. Since you are such a great scammer, I encourage you to try the same with real money. I'm sure it will get you far.
His scam seems a lot more belivable then most real world scams; so I wouldn't doubt that he could be a scammer in RL because that doesn't take too much skill or brains. I don't watch tv to often but when I do even on normal networks get 'the bailout group' or some credit stuff bull****ing that a person doesn't need to pay taxes or cedit card debt. That or buying shares in gold or selling you gold.
So, if you want to do real scam consider those, or write a insperational story and sell it for money, promoting yourself on the success you had of writing and selling said story. Healing propertys of mono-atomic gold, stem cells or a illogical combination of both in some daily cream. Again, doesn't realy take too much intelegence to do real world scams.
Though still 75 billion isk in three months is still a long time to spend to make that ammount of money, and a lot of work to make the whole corperation thing and recuit so many noobs.
There was no paypal scam lol. People over the internet believe anything, seriously.
This goes back to when I was in WI and I told the noobs there that I paid my bills by scamming people over the internet with paypal and they have brought it up ever since thinking it was real.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Greg DaimYo Somebody just ban the OP (in real life) and we'll be done with it.
I really didn't get the point: Did you ask the people to donate ISK or did you scam them out of money via paypal?
I've been up and working for the past 17 hours so don't be too harsh with me.
And no, I didn't read the thread because I really couldn't be arsed to do it.
Its cool, and no, I didnt scam anyone out of money via paypal. Some members of the corp donated money to the webdesigners paypal account. I just have been having fun with the posts of people thinking it was me.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat Elysium.
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Posted - 2009.12.09 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Mckenna Ban hammer incoming
Bet you thought you were smart admiting to this
quoting for future.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat
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Posted - 2009.12.09 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Yea he took one of the projects we were too lazy to do and ran with it (I wanted him to do it with us since he's a lot more active (some of the time) than most of us, but he decided to solo instead -_-)
Did an impressive job really, recruitment methods in particular were genius. PS; it wasn't 7.5 bil, 75 bil sounds about right - his noobs apparently aren't as in the loop now as I've been for months ;P
Now, why did you have to go and discredit the trolls for. Next thing you know they will figure out that I never actually got money irl at all.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat
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Posted - 2009.12.09 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: marxist revolutionary is it legal to get people to buy GTCs to get isk off them? i've been scamming for months but I never did this because some ***got told me if it could be proved I did this i'd be banned or something
If you start a massive corp with lots of people, all the noobs teach eachother about GTC's all you have to do is ask for donations, literally.
Get them in fleet, take them on a fun roam, and say "We need to buy stuff, donate isk" They figure out the GTC thing on their own. It became a standard practice that when you buy GTC's and sell them, that you give some isk to the corp.
You see we had 0% tax, so donations is the only thing we had.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat
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Posted - 2009.12.09 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Svett You ain't got nothing on what Remedial scammed from goonfleet in ISK and RL cash.
Remedial is actually the person that introduced me into the art of scamming. One day he said "Who wants to scam a pubie" and I said "I do" and it started there. Him and FirstName LastName. FNLN was actually my idol lol and was the one that inspired me to rip off my own corp at the time, IGNE.
I was actually one of the first people that tricked a corp into paying 1+ bil isk to join goonswarm, This was when goons just took Scalding Pass.
Good times.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat
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Posted - 2009.12.09 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: GoodNDead Edited by: GoodNDead on 09/12/2009 23:00:46 Edited by: GoodNDead on 09/12/2009 23:00:11
Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Fooling ppl into donating money per paypal to you, thats kinda a whole new level
leave it to mildly ******ed griefers like skoot to think it is a good idea to scam people for RL money and then an even better idea to publicly brag about it.
Sounds like the directors built a nice corp despite this knob head, and when they realized what he was doing they did the right thing and reformed the corp.
you didnt edit enough times.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat
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Posted - 2009.12.10 16:25:00 -
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The hate is strong in this one lol.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat
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Posted - 2009.12.10 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Silmaire guys, if you want to ban people for scamming in RL money, start with goons and with their know recruiting scamms .
i sure everyone knows all about "the something awful forums", witch they tell recruiters to join and pay the fee so they can join goons ...
This ? just peanuts considering what goons have been done overtime ...
just my 2Ç
haha, how true, I wouldnt actually be the one who gets banned anyways, It would be the web guy that took the money. so *shrugs*
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat
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Posted - 2009.12.10 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: Syllviaa Edited by: Syllviaa on 10/12/2009 20:42:34 I keep wondering exactly how any one was brain washed in the corp... You were almost never online. Anyway, the total ammount of isk taken was far closer to 7.5bil.
Local Threat made 15 billion isk in the first 30 days of operation. Also, why not post with your main?
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat
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Posted - 2009.12.10 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: L4NC3R Edited by: L4NC3R on 10/12/2009 18:42:19 Hi Alpha, hows it goin?
LONG time, ask aaron if I can rejoin.
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Skoot
Gallente Local Threat
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Posted - 2009.12.10 21:28:00 -
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5 pages and 15k views in 24 hours, not bad
Thanks to everyone for all the tears. I dont really read CAOD, so take it easy. I wont be checking back in to this thread after this.
I am also seeking a corp with 0.0 access on this character so I can fix my security status. check my recruitment thread here. I also extend my ability to do spy stuff to anyone willing to house me. (Ill spy on people for you or cause drama for them etc)
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1230613
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