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Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:03:00 - [1] Step 1. Create alt, Create corp. Step 2. Recruit hundreds of noobs fresh to the game. Step 3. Get noobs to make nice website and videos. Nice Website and Video's Step 4. Ask for Donations often. (Noobs buy GTC and donate LOTS of isk) TL;DR Well all good things must come to an end. This operation could of gone so much further then it did but alas the story of Local Threat will have to end here. I did however manage to make 75 billion isk in 3 months. Which is a lot for me. The most I stole before this was 15 billion isk worth in thanatos carriers that I stole from WI. (Which all sold in 1 day right back to their own members for all you haters last time that thought they would get stuck) And before that was like 7 billion isk from Igneus Auctorita(goon corp THAT I BUILT FOR LULZ) Anyways, I am moving up the chain of scams and corp thievery. I tried hanging out with GH-SC for a little bit, they are cool guys, but I am definetly more of a solo kind of guy, I guess I dont work well with others. Probably why I am so good at screwing people over. Anyways, this time, I came up with a much better Idea, Well actually, let me rephrase that, I stole the idea from Tyrrax Thorrk. But I did however modify the idea from taking a year+ in work to only months. So "his" original idea was to create a corp and get it into an alliance or possibly even create an alliance, but not just a random corp, A really good one that ends up getting into the position to pocket moon minerals on the side for a long time without other corps in the alliance noticing. Well anyways, without getting too much into details that dont really matter, I went off on my own and created Local Threat and started recruiting with my awesome recruiting skills and I recruited 600+ people in just a couple months. I didnt do this all by myself, I found real honest hard working noobs and trained them up and they helped me lead this corp. I made a couple of them directors and trusted them with much. But I didnt create just any corp, This corp turned out to be amazing, I realized that I was wasting time joining corps and building them up to steal from them later. All I had to do was recruit hundreds of noobs and sit back and do little. Take them on a roam a few times a week. Anyways, Without getting too into that because I dont really want to show others how what I did is possible. I just want to get to the bragging part. Ok, what is there to brag about? Basically when you get HUNDREDS of brand new people interested in the game you have SOOOO many ways to exploit them, THey have no idea of any of the scams, you can show them how to buy GTC's. make them do anything you want. Seriously, I had a freaking army of noobs at my disposal, THey did whatever I wanted them to do, Even if that meant that they needed to donate to help pay for stuff. There was many paypal donations aswell. So how did I get away with all of this without them knowing? With help of course, that leads me back to the point about them doing whatever you want. I brainwashed all of them. And it worked for a long time, until I had to go inactive, then that gave them time to think. Thats what leads me to the downfall of the story and why it could of been so much better..... If I would of sticked with it I eventually could of gotten this corp into a very high position in the NC. (And I have always hated the NC, btw Hi.) The possibilities would have been limitless. I did however manage to make 75 billion isk in the last 3 months and I have more assets then I know what to do with. I didnt want the story to end here, but 1 of the 2 people I trusted ended up going off and telling the story to a lot of people which forced the hand. Local Threat with any possibility of being a trustworthy reputable corp was tarnished when my right hand man told the truth to all the corp members. Especially one of them being an ex director in GLD during the time I stole the 16 carriers. He didnt know it was me.
LifeLines Caldari Capital Construction Research	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:06:00 - [2] tldr: i made moneis and i want caod to know about this so i can feel self fulfilment sage
Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:09:00 - [3] TL;DR Continued.... Ultimately I made the mistake in trusting someone, And you dont have to tell me, I know the way it is lol. But when it comes down to it, you can not manage hundreds of people and have trusted right hand men without them truly know whats going on. We just worked way too close together and especially with me pocketing the profits, I had to make sure they were on the same level as me. Hell the paypal account is actually controlled by one of the directors, But that one I know definetly would not of screwed me over, because I know where he lives :) I didnt get screwed over financially tho because I always made sure that I kept all the isk on my personal accounts, and the other director just bought GTC's with the money that was donated and that was all liquidated into isk, so overall my extreme paranoia did save me in the end. Money wise anyways. Well anyways, Now all the Local Threat people are going to their new corp, called SALUS NOVUS. Lead by AngryAndy(The 1 out of 2 people I trusted) And I hope you dont read my text wrong, I just think he deserves the credit. They have joined the other razor sister alliance called United Front Alliance. UFA will be taking Elysiums space. (Btw, for any of you that dont know, Elysium is a sister alliance of Razor controlled by Hk9. <~~The razor official I had to trick into believing local threat was a gaming group that came from some random korean game called rising force online lol. I made him believe that we were goon 2.0 and that we were going to make goons look small, But keep in mind we did have 670 members at 3 months so it was believable. Anyways, so yea, thats my story, it ends short I guess, in terms of what I had planned, BUT. I do have the ability to create huge legitimate corps over night and get into any of your alliances if I truly want too. Anyways, Long story short, I just wanted to post this to inspire any thiefs out there to go out, and create huge corps over night and have fun at the expense of hundreds of noobs when you take them out to all suicide on your mains smartbombing battleship lol or when you ask hundreds of new enthusiastic players for donations and show them all how to buy GTC. You too can make 75 bil in 3 months. (probably more, I didnt really try hard)
MrRx7 Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:10:00 - [4] Originally by: Skoot words If anyone wants the above's contact info, ip address, address, etc let me know... He was not smart enough to hide any of them. Cheers.
Goose Hypocrisy Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:13:00 - [5] Edited by: Goose Hypocrisy on 09/12/2009 20:13:52 One of the guys in PL has a friend who was in Local Threat and pasted some parts of your private forum/corpchat, some of us called it was a scam, but thank you anyway as it provided great entertainment. We discussed if you were a Goon or BoB alt, are you one of either? -clp sig updated yo
Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:15:00 - [6] Originally by: MrRx7 Originally by: Skoot words If anyone wants the above's contact info, ip address, address, etc let me know... He was not smart enough to hide any of them. Cheers. Oh No! Not my IP!
Launch TehMudkipz Gallente Capitalists United Not Timid	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:15:00 - [7] cool story brah
Metal Dude Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:18:00 - [8] Congrats on being a s**bag. Karma is a *** and I'm sure it will find you. Enjoy the pixels ISK. Since you are such a great scammer, I encourage you to try the same with real money. I'm sure it will get you far. The truth will set you free
C4w3 Minmatar tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:21:00 - [9] Originally by: Skoot Originally by: MrRx7 Originally by: Skoot words If anyone wants the above's contact info, ip address, address, etc let me know... He was not smart enough to hide any of them. Cheers. Oh No! Not my IP! If i dont see a significant donation to C4w3 Skoot ... im ganna im ganna cry you OWE me this you have to agree with that right right? Nice scam! ANGRY INTERNET GAMING MOBS IRL are bad MKAY!
MrRx7 Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:22:00 - [10] Edited by: MrRx7 on 09/12/2009 20:23:04 Originally by: Skoot Originally by: MrRx7 Originally by: Skoot words If anyone wants the above's contact info, ip address, address, etc let me know... He was not smart enough to hide any of them. Cheers. Oh No! Not my IP! yaay bra, your ip address.. its like totally important bra. oh enjoy all the gay ****

Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:24:00 - [11] If i dont see a significant donation to C4w3 Skoot ... im ganna im ganna cry you OWE me this you have to agree with that right right? Nice scam! hey c4, funny story, one of my original Local Threat guys is the original corp 1 ceo, chi lol. He emorage quit again tho. And to dude asking if I am pro bob or goon. Besides GH-SC I dont really keep in contact with anyone. I am more of a believer of everyone is fair game.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:26:00 - [12] Cool story bro? Try better next time. 75 bil with 650 people in three months? That is totally crap income. How to make 100 bil in 1 month with one account You should have made in 3 months at least 750 bil if done the right way.
C4w3 Minmatar tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:30:00 - [13] Originally by: Skoot If i dont see a significant donation to C4w3 Skoot ... im ganna im ganna cry you OWE me this you have to agree with that right right? Nice scam! hey c4, funny story, one of my original Local Threat guys is the original corp 1 ceo, chi lol. He emorage quit again tho. And to dude asking if I am pro bob or goon. Besides GH-SC I dont really keep in contact with anyone. I am more of a believer of everyone is fair game. Im still saying if i dont see a BIG donation im calling this someone we both know to throw cake at you IRL how about that? Swedish KLADDKAKA! fear the kladdkaka. ANGRY INTERNET GAMING MOBS IRL are bad MKAY!
Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:31:00 - [14] Originally by: Gnulpie Cool story bro? Try better next time. 75 bil with 650 people in three months? That is totally crap income. You should have made in 3 months at least 750 bil if done the right way. 650 people was the number to trick razor into believing we were a real corp, hundreds of people that were recruited were 1 day old alts that never logged back in. But that is the thing, I wasnt actually there most the time. It was an alt corp.
RuleoftheBone Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:33:00 - [15] Originally by: Skoot There was many paypal donations aswell. ****
Kenz Rider Gallente Tesserae	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:37:00 - [16] Building a corp of 670 members in three months is probably worth 75b ISK. Meaning you didn't steal it. There was value produced for the ISK. When you steal something, the party you steal from receives no value in trade. In this case, many of the 670 people in the corp probably felt they received a good experience for the money spent.
sakana Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:38:00 - [17] It seems you had a pretty good scam going, but you kinda ruin it by telling the story so badly.
Ardetia Caldari The Flying Tigers United Front Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:40:00 - [18] Edited by: Ardetia on 09/12/2009 20:40:43 you know ive seen my fair share of eve, and its all good all the things that happens you can say is all part of eve this isnt its not because you stole, lied, etc etc its because you irrepairably damaged eves reputation as a good mmo (for hundreds of people) Wisdom Trolling CAOD
Cap Tyrian Gallente Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:46:00 - [19] I love how you made hundreds cry. Noob tears taste so sweet.
Boppi Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:47:00 - [20] Scamming is all fun and cool i guess, i just hope the "noobs" who really put a lot of work and dedication into Elysium are able to shrug it of and start new. So, yeah, here you have your 5 minutes of attention, now go end yourself (in RL) ___________________________ 1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr

Scatim Helicon Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.09 20:59:00 - [21] I heard people are mad about video games itt -----------------
Dianabolic Gallente Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:00:00 - [22] Originally by: Skoot There was many paypal donations aswell. Scamming in-game etc, fair play (a shame for the noobs, but hey welcome to EvE). Scamming out of RL cash via PayPal? Not so sure I'd be admitting to that one...
Dusty Monkey Gallente IFGresearch Corp Handle and Tang Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:11:00 - [23] Quote: DECEPTION OFFENCES 2.13 The Theft Acts create eight offences of dishonestly getting something by deception, namely: (1) obtaining property; (2) obtaining a money transfer; OSHI-
Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:11:00 - [24] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Skoot There was many paypal donations aswell. Scamming in-game etc, fair play (a shame for the noobs, but hey welcome to EvE). Scamming out of RL cash via PayPal? Not so sure I'd be admitting to that one... People donated RL money because it was their personal choice out of game to do. Wasn't a scam. In fact none of this was a scam, it was a legitimate corp. Everyone is thinking this is a scam or this is stealing, but its neither. What I am saying it, You can make a lot of isk by recruiting loads of noobs and asking for donations. Because noobs buy GTC's.
Shad0w Hawk Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:13:00 - [25] Scamming? - Fair enough. Scamming for real money via paypal? - Somebody ban this ***got right now.
Hsan Evets Gallente Cash Money Brothers BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:14:00 - [26] I had a "good" feeling about you when you would brag about doing paypal scams in RL on WI alliance chat. Too bad nobody could have predicted you would be brazen enough to scam internet space ships from people playing an internet space ship game. As for the current scam, good job, I guess. I would have been happy with having 600 people in my corp, but I guess to each their own.
Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:19:00 - [27] Originally by: Dusty Monkey Quote: DECEPTION OFFENCES 2.13 The Theft Acts create eight offences of dishonestly getting something by deception, namely: (1) obtaining property; (2) obtaining a money transfer; OSHI- If corp members out of game agree to donate money to help pay for hosting then that is their choice and many corps do this. It is not uncommon.
Goose Hypocrisy Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:19:00 - [28] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Skoot There was many paypal donations aswell. Scamming in-game etc, fair play (a shame for the noobs, but hey welcome to EvE). Scamming out of RL cash via PayPal? Not so sure I'd be admitting to that one... Missed this part. Welp, bye bye! -clp sig updated yo
Garulf Hirgon Gallente Burning Technologies Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:20:00 - [29] How is this different from normal day-to-day operation of any large alliance? The effort of the masses support a few elite perched on the top.
Syllviaa Caldari Salus Novus United Front Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:21:00 - [30] Originally by: Skoot I did however manage to make 7.5 billion isk in 3 months. Which is a lot for me. I did however manage to make 7.5 billion isk in the last 3 months and I have more assets then I know what to do with. Fixed them both for you. Cheers.

Gordo Fartis Caldari 13th Squadron E C L I P S E	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:23:00 - [31] scamming in game? that is fair and mo problem with this but scamming in RL? via paypal.... I am not sure how legal this is and if companies like paypal will see the fun side of it If I am not wrong exchanging money through a traceable transaction is bordering on fraud in RL
Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:25:00 - [32] Originally by: Shad0w Hawk Scamming for real money via paypal? no
Hardass01 Gallente Salus Novus United Front Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:25:00 - [33] Edited by: Hardass01 on 09/12/2009 21:26:58 Im X local threat and what you have here is a sad little man who just lie's all the time he took us for 7.5 bil isk not 75bilisk and we all left in a mass exodus and created an new corp with a proper leader you dhould have seen the tears he posted in our LT FORUM........ I respect you guys, and I dont want bad blood with any of you that I know. LocalThreat is closing down due to my inactivity as a ceo, which is understanding. There is also a misunderstanding that this corp has bad intentions. Local Threat started out with bad intentions, but it turned into a real corp, and we only had the best of intentions towards the end. That is honest, and I am sure andy will tell you that. Andy started his own corp, which is fine, he is the ****ing man and deserves whatever he wants, I had to go inactive and work on RL, and he knew that he has full control of the control of the corp, if he felt that he needed to be ceo, then I respect his decision and he was right, I just wish he would of asked for ceo of Local Threat, because I WOULD HAVE GIVEN IT TO HIM. Like I said to him, he had full control. As for me, Some of you may be upset because you are under the impression that at some point I was going to rip you all off, but that is not true. I would never, I actually have love for all of you. Even you hardass. Please dont hate me guys. Like I said, it started out with bad intentions, but after a couple months, it was only good. I really do love all of you and I really hope your new corp works out good. I really do want it to succeed. I am even going to leave the corp mail up about you guys so everyone knows to join you. P.S. If this does'nt make sense, all you need to know is AngryAndy made a new corp and you need to go join it. you make of that what you will as for the X members of LT well were stronger than ever and will only get bigger and better.
GoodNDead Caldari Missions Mining and Mayhem Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:26:00 - [34] Using EVE-Online to defraud players through paypal, and in game items purchased real life money should be ban able.
Gordo Fartis Caldari 13th Squadron E C L I P S E	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:29:00 - [35] Originally by: Skoot Originally by: Dusty Monkey Quote: DECEPTION OFFENCES 2.13 The Theft Acts create eight offences of dishonestly getting something by deception, namely: (1) obtaining property; (2) obtaining a money transfer; OSHI- If corp members out of game agree to donate money to help pay for hosting then that is their choice and many corps do this. It is not uncommon. here is the problem you are promising something in exchange for money (hosting) and not delivering the agreed goods or services
Dusty Monkey Gallente IFGresearch Corp Handle and Tang Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:31:00 - [36] Originally by: Skoot If corp members out of game agree to donate money to help pay for hosting then that is their choice and many corps do this. It is not uncommon. Keyword is 'deception'. The real life money goes to the hosting, servers, etc when asked, so that is an actual donation. When the money goes into a Paypal account, which you then keep for your own personal gain, then it becomes fraud and deception. hth
Murrior Amarr Black Serpent Technologies R.A.G.E	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:31:00 - [37] Originally by: Shad0w Hawk Scamming? - Fair enough. Scamming for real money via paypal? - Somebody ban this ***got right now.
Amnzero Amarr Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:32:00 - [38] Skoot / Laser Pointer / Connavari / LocalThreat CEO i shall be posting up the convo we had earlier today on my alliance forums, and showing people what an absolute puss-filled-sceptic wart on the face of humanity you are (even more so than most of their perceptions currently concider you to be) Also it wasnt 75billion, it was infact 7.5billion, a slight difference that obviously slipped past that huge ego of yours. i shall be taking down the youtube channel as tbh i dont want to be associated with such an intollerable person as yourself. looking forward to seeing your pod in my overview.
Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:32:00 - [39] Originally by: Hardass01 Im X local threat and what you have here is a sad little man who just lie's all the time he took us for 7.5 mil isk not 75mil and we all left in a mass exodus and created an new corp with a proper leader you dhould have seen the tears he posted in our LT FORUM........ I respect you guys, and I dont want bad blood with any of you that I know. LocalThreat is closing down due to my inactivity as a ceo, which is understanding. There is also a misunderstanding that this corp has bad intentions. Local Threat started out with bad intentions, but it turned into a real corp, and we only had the best of intentions towards the end. That is honest, and I am sure andy will tell you that. Andy started his own corp, which is fine, he is the ****ing man and deserves whatever he wants, I had to go inactive and work on RL, and he knew that he has full control of the control of the corp, if he felt that he needed to be ceo, then I respect his decision and he was right, I just wish he would of asked for ceo of Local Threat, because I WOULD HAVE GIVEN IT TO HIM. Like I said to him, he had full control. As for me, Some of you may be upset because you are under the impression that at some point I was going to rip you all off, but that is not true. I would never, I actually have love for all of you. Even you hardass. Please dont hate me guys. Like I said, it started out with bad intentions, but after a couple months, it was only good. I really do love all of you and I really hope your new corp works out good. I really do want it to succeed. I am even going to leave the corp mail up about you guys so everyone knows to join you. P.S. If this does'nt make sense, all you need to know is AngryAndy made a new corp and you need to go join it. you make of that what you will as for the X members of LT well were stronger than ever and will only get bigger and better. Thank you for showing everyone that there was no deception :) If anyone doesnt understand what hardass said, That was my post to the forums letting everyone know how I feel. As you see, it was a real corp and not a scam :) That was the whole point of this thread, to show the thieves out there that you can make lots of isk by creating a real huge corp and not trying to steal. As for the 7.5 bil claim. You would have no idea, no one would, I pocketed profits rightfully as ceo many times without anyone knowing, not even andy. 7.5 bil is nothing.
D'ceet Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:32:00 - [40] in game money im all for... but taking people's real life cash.... thats a ** move... Originally by:** CCP Soundwave Hahaha what the christ?!

Anna Valerios Amarr Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:35:00 - [41] Edited by: Anna Valerios on 09/12/2009 21:35:26 Originally by: MrRx7 Edited by: MrRx7 on 09/12/2009 20:23:04 Originally by: Skoot Originally by: MrRx7 Originally by: Skoot words If anyone wants the above's contact info, ip address, address, etc let me know... He was not smart enough to hide any of them. Cheers. Oh No! Not my IP! yaay bra, your ip address.. its like totally important bra. oh enjoy all the gay ** Some how it always ends up being a Razor * to pull the I HAVE HIS RL INFO. No one gives a **, off back to your hole RX you mong. Maybe you should focus on your forum security rather than trying to pretend that someone might give a about your RL info you managed to OBTAIN! Wow a whois on a domain name jesus christ welcome to '99. Also lol at the theft bit * about the PayPal ** but owell they can just do chargebacks its much easier than getting upset over it. ~ avs
Sephiroth CloneIIV Gallente Copia-WarRages Armaments Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:36:00 - [42] Originally by: Metal Dude Congrats on being a s**bag. Karma is a * and I'm sure it will find you. Enjoy the pixels ISK. Since you are such a great scammer, I encourage you to try the same with real money. I'm sure it will get you far. His scam seems a lot more belivable then most real world scams; so I wouldn't doubt that he could be a scammer in RL because that doesn't take too much skill or brains. I don't watch tv to often but when I do even on normal networks get 'the bailout group' or some credit stuff bull**ing that a person doesn't need to pay taxes or cedit card debt. That or buying shares in gold or selling you gold. So, if you want to do real scam consider those, or write a insperational story and sell it for money, promoting yourself on the success you had of writing and selling said story. Healing propertys of mono-atomic gold, stem cells or a illogical combination of both in some daily cream. Again, doesn't realy take too much intelegence to do real world scams. Though still 75 billion isk in three months is still a long time to spend to make that ammount of money, and a lot of work to make the whole corperation thing and recuit so many noobs.
Biologic Minmatar Point Blank. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:43:00 - [43] i hope u didnt expect a big old pat in the back for this.. but as u didnt keep it in game and scammed for RL cash.. u may not have forced them to give u rl isk u accepted it in the first place.. i actually hope u give that rl cash bk to the trust worthy people... RL > GAME if i wass ccp i would bann your ass for accepting donations in rl for something in eve u are the lowest of lows my friend..
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:44:00 - [44] First bragging about how much isk was scammed and that also real money was scammed via paypal. Then getting aware that collecting real money for fraud is a big BAN offence. Finally doing quick quick damage control and rowing back as fast as possible. Funny to read.
Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:46:00 - [45] Originally by: Sephiroth CloneIIV Originally by: Metal Dude Congrats on being a s**bag. Karma is a * and I'm sure it will find you. Enjoy the pixels ISK. Since you are such a great scammer, I encourage you to try the same with real money. I'm sure it will get you far. His scam seems a lot more belivable then most real world scams; so I wouldn't doubt that he could be a scammer in RL because that doesn't take too much skill or brains. I don't watch tv to often but when I do even on normal networks get 'the bailout group' or some credit stuff bull**ing that a person doesn't need to pay taxes or cedit card debt. That or buying shares in gold or selling you gold. So, if you want to do real scam consider those, or write a insperational story and sell it for money, promoting yourself on the success you had of writing and selling said story. Healing propertys of mono-atomic gold, stem cells or a illogical combination of both in some daily cream. Again, doesn't realy take too much intelegence to do real world scams. Though still 75 billion isk in three months is still a long time to spend to make that ammount of money, and a lot of work to make the whole corperation thing and recuit so many noobs. There was no paypal scam lol. People over the internet believe anything, seriously. This goes back to when I was in WI and I told the noobs there that I paid my bills by scamming people over the internet with paypal and they have brought it up ever since thinking it was real.
Greg DaimYo Caldari Biotronics Inc. Majesta Empire	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:48:00 - [46] Somebody just ban the OP (in real life) and we'll be done with it. I really didn't get the point: Did you ask the people to donate ISK or did you scam them out of money via paypal? I've been up and working for the past 17 hours so don't be too harsh with me. And no, I didn't read the thread because I really couldn't be arsed to do it.
Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 21:54:00 - [47] Originally by: Greg DaimYo Somebody just ban the OP (in real life) and we'll be done with it. I really didn't get the point: Did you ask the people to donate ISK or did you scam them out of money via paypal? I've been up and working for the past 17 hours so don't be too harsh with me. And no, I didn't read the thread because I really couldn't be arsed to do it. Its cool, and no, I didnt scam anyone out of money via paypal. Some members of the corp donated money to the webdesigners paypal account. I just have been having fun with the posts of people thinking it was me.
Martin Mckenna Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:01:00 - [48] Ban hammer incoming Bet you thought you were smart admiting to this ---------------------
Skoot Gallente Local Threat Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:01:00 - [49] Originally by: Martin Mckenna Ban hammer incoming Bet you thought you were smart admiting to this quoting for future.
Grace Kemp Gallente Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:02:00 - [50] However, you're a sad person. That is all.

Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:06:00 - [51] Yea he took one of the projects we were too lazy to do and ran with it (I wanted him to do it with us since he's a lot more active (some of the time) than most of us, but he decided to solo instead -_-) Did an impressive job really, recruitment methods in particular were genius. PS; it wasn't 7.5 bil, 75 bil sounds about right - his noobs apparently aren't as in the loop now as I've been for months ;P
skulled Minmatar Monkeytech	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:09:00 - [52] tldr; I created a corp to scam noobs out of ISK and RL money via paypal then posted about scamming the RL money on CAOD...ooops...backpedal, backpedal, backpedal...alt post...backpedal, backpedal. I hope CCP ban all your accounts and climb into your anus with a microscope.
UVPhoenix2 Gallente R.EVE.olutioN Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:10:00 - [53] Riveting tale, chap. ___ After I'm gone, your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence, as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be.
Baaldor Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:10:00 - [54] Sup Alpha!! What is up ***got
Qnut Caldari AUS Corporation Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:17:00 - [55] Originally by: skulled tldr; >> backpedal, backpedal, backpedal...alt post...backpedal, backpedal. >> climb into your anus with a microscope. Important info outlined.
marxist revolutionary Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:18:00 - [56] is it legal to get people to buy GTCs to get isk off them? i've been scamming for months but I never did this because some ***got told me if it could be proved I did this i'd be banned or something
Skoot Gallente Local Threat	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:19:00 - [57] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Yea he took one of the projects we were too lazy to do and ran with it (I wanted him to do it with us since he's a lot more active (some of the time) than most of us, but he decided to solo instead -_-) Did an impressive job really, recruitment methods in particular were genius. PS; it wasn't 7.5 bil, 75 bil sounds about right - his noobs apparently aren't as in the loop now as I've been for months ;P Now, why did you have to go and discredit the trolls for. Next thing you know they will figure out that I never actually got money irl at all.
Svett Caldari The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:21:00 - [58] You ain't got nothing on what Remedial scammed from goonfleet in ISK and RL cash.
Qnut Caldari AUS Corporation Elysium.	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:24:00 - [59] Originally by: Skoot Now, why did you have to go and discredit the trolls for. Next thing you know they will figure out that I never actually got money irl at all. backpedal backpedal backpedal chain breaks
Skoot Gallente Local Threat	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:25:00 - [60] Originally by: marxist revolutionary is it legal to get people to buy GTCs to get isk off them? i've been scamming for months but I never did this because some ***got told me if it could be proved I did this i'd be banned or something If you start a massive corp with lots of people, all the noobs teach eachother about GTC's all you have to do is ask for donations, literally. Get them in fleet, take them on a fun roam, and say "We need to buy stuff, donate isk" They figure out the GTC thing on their own. It became a standard practice that when you buy GTC's and sell them, that you give some isk to the corp. You see we had 0% tax, so donations is the only thing we had.

Greg DaimYo Caldari Biotronics Inc. Majesta Empire	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:28:00 - [61] Edited by: Greg DaimYo on 09/12/2009 22:28:47 Okay, I am starting to get what happened. I am not totally sure about it, but I'll give you one advise and I am 100 percent serious: Stop digging. Don't post anymore. We'll see what happens, but STOP SAYING ANYTHING! Edit: Fail at spelling.
Skoot Gallente Local Threat	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:31:00 - [62] Originally by: Svett You ain't got nothing on what Remedial scammed from goonfleet in ISK and RL cash. Remedial is actually the person that introduced me into the art of scamming. One day he said "Who wants to scam a pubie" and I said "I do" and it started there. Him and FirstName LastName. FNLN was actually my idol lol and was the one that inspired me to rip off my own corp at the time, IGNE. I was actually one of the first people that tricked a corp into paying 1+ bil isk to join goonswarm, This was when goons just took Scalding Pass. Good times.
Xiaodown Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:33:00 - [63] Originally by: Svett You ain't got nothing on what Remedial scammed from goonfleet in ISK and RL cash. Well, yeah, but Skoot also didn't post his junk on the internets. Seriously, the takeaway from this is: Skoot: "Hey, I wonder if I can start a corp and skim off the top as CEO?" ... starts corp, skims off top. Corp actually becomes real corp. ... People in the corp donate money to run the website (irl) ... Skoot, shocked at how easy it is to quasi-legitimately make isk, quits after having skimmed enough. Corp moves on. I mean, if you skip the middle step, and change the intentions around a bit, it's: 1.) Pretty much how most corporations are run in EVE 2.) Pretty much how most corporations are run in the real world. s/Skoot/CEO of Citibank/g --
skulled Minmatar Monkeytech	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:33:00 - [64] Originally by: Skoot Anyways, I am moving up the chain of scams and corp thievery. But I didnt create just any corp, This corp turned out to be amazing, I realized that I was wasting time joining corps and building them up to steal from them later. All I had to do was recruit hundreds of noobs and sit back and do little. Take them on a roam a few times a week. Ok, what is there to brag about? Basically when you get HUNDREDS of brand new people interested in the game you have SOOOO many ways to exploit them, THey have no idea of any of the scams, you can show them how to buy GTC's. make them do anything you want. Seriously, I had a freaking army of noobs at my disposal, THey did whatever I wanted them to do, Even if that meant that they needed to donate to help pay for stuff. There was many paypal donations aswell. I brainwashed all of them. Quote: DECEPTION OFFENCES 2.13 The Theft Acts create eight offences of dishonestly getting something by deception, namely: (1) obtaining property; (2) obtaining a money transfer;
Elftor Caldari Broski Enterprises No Fun Allowed	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:34:00 - [65] hahaha well done. so much butthurt from this. A+++ would read again.
Rexthor Hammerfists Caldari Rage of Inferno	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:45:00 - [66] Fooling ppl into donating money per paypal to you, thats kinda a whole new level -
Kaden Solari Caldari XIII Interstellar Legion	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:53:00 - [67] also against the EULA :P looking forward to CCP bringing the ban hammer on you mate :)
Zavulon Sukkot Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:54:00 - [68] C&P <<< that way NATI.
GoodNDead Caldari Missions Mining and Mayhem Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2009.12.09 22:59:00 - [69] Edited by: GoodNDead on 09/12/2009 23:00:46 Edited by: GoodNDead on 09/12/2009 23:00:11 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Fooling ppl into donating money per paypal to you, thats kinda a whole new level leave it to mildly ******ed griefers like skoot to think it is a good idea to scam people for RL money and then an even better idea to publicly brag about it. Sounds like the directors built a nice corp despite this knob head, and when they realized what he was doing they did the right thing and reformed the corp.
crice Caldari CRICE Corporation The Purge Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 23:04:00 - [70] Corp theft is so 2003.

Skoot Gallente Local Threat	Posted - 2009.12.09 23:04:00 - [71] Originally by: GoodNDead Edited by: GoodNDead on 09/12/2009 23:00:46 Edited by: GoodNDead on 09/12/2009 23:00:11 Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Fooling ppl into donating money per paypal to you, thats kinda a whole new level leave it to mildly ******ed griefers like skoot to think it is a good idea to scam people for RL money and then an even better idea to publicly brag about it. Sounds like the directors built a nice corp despite this knob head, and when they realized what he was doing they did the right thing and reformed the corp. you didnt edit enough times.
Bayer22 Minmatar F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.12.09 23:11:00 - [72] skooooot!!!! o/ thought you sold that char haha. nice to see you with your main still around and kicking also still stealing crap. I do miss our cepter roams we used to do :P
NsynC Ambition Minmatar Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2009.12.09 23:16:00 - [73] I make 10 trillion a day for I am 'CCP God!'
Christoffski Caldari Baptism oF Fire Sons of Tangra	Posted - 2009.12.09 23:16:00 - [74] I like your website and nice video's!
Svett Caldari The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 23:16:00 - [75] Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Fooling ppl into donating money per paypal to you, thats kinda a whole new level Remedial got the goons to pay his rent so he could continue to be in game more. Twice.
skulled Minmatar Monkeytech	Posted - 2009.12.09 23:22:00 - [76] Originally by: Svett Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Fooling ppl into donating money per paypal to you, thats kinda a whole new level Remedial got the goons to pay his rent so he could continue to be in game more. Twice. Hello. You must be one of the designated IT forum warrior. Welcome. Do you think precedence makes breach of the EULA, or any ill deed justified?
Kushmir Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.09 23:30:00 - [77] Originally by: Svett Remedial got the goons to pay his rent so he could continue to be in game more. Twice. Still butthurt about Delve?
Lee Wai Gallente x13 IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 23:35:00 - [78] Congratulations, you are a dirtbag.. Yawn.. --Sig--
Dusty Monkey Gallente IFGresearch Corp Handle and Tang Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.09 23:53:00 - [79] I love these posts <3
Orree Gallente Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2009.12.09 23:54:00 - [80] yawn ---------- "How much easier it is to be critical than to be correct." ---Benjamin Disraeli

Goose Hypocrisy Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.12.10 00:00:00 - [81] Originally by: skulled Originally by: Svett Originally by: Rexthor Hammerfists Fooling ppl into donating money per paypal to you, thats kinda a whole new level Remedial got the goons to pay his rent so he could continue to be in game more. Twice. Hello. You must be one of the designated IT forum warrior. Welcome. Do you think precedence makes breach of the EULA, or any ill deed justified? Do you know that he's right? Riding to the rescue of my IT friends! PL and IT 2 alliances 1 heart o/\o 4ever -clp sig updated yo
Altair Mogwa Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.12.10 00:05:00 - [82] I saw TL;DR then a wall of text, i lol'd a bit, and stopped reading, then i saw the third post was another wall of text. Dear god post moar! -- Everyone poops.
Anna Valerios Amarr Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.12.10 00:10:00 - [83] Originally by: Dusty Monkey I love these posts <3 I really hope thats the guys mailbox just goes to show how **ing sad you gots are. If you are that ***ed to donate money to someone you dont know then you deserve for it to be taken. If you are even more ****ed as to not be able to file a chargeback then wow its probably about time you empty that drool pan from under your face and go back to your care home. ~ avs
Joe Stalin Caldari Unknown-Entity Maru Ka'ge	Posted - 2009.12.10 00:15:00 - [84] wow, you must be so proud to have screwed over so many of your corp mates. I guess if you are a fan of abusing people's trust you can go far. You sound like the type of kid that would steal x-mas presents from under your best friend's tree when he walks out of the room for a few minutes.
Imogen Filiotov Amarr Gene Works Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2009.12.10 00:18:00 - [85] As much as I dislike NC, well done. 75bil. Did you just win Eve? Srsly, well done for chatting up n00bs, well done for getting stuff for free. And well done proving to Eve Community that you have no real interest in the game. Just bored little man living at home with his momma who gets kicks out of theft, scams and Paypal "donations". You say the paypal stuff isn't a scam. Well maybe you should look the term up. If it was fake, then you stole. Also, happy christmas in BanLand :)
fugazii Minmatar Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 00:25:00 - [86] You don't know the meaning of TLDR, and you would have easily doubled your profits in the same amount of time if you had struck a deal with a 0.0 alliance and turned your corp into a raven army killing rats with a 10% tax.
FOl2TY8 Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.10 00:40:00 - [87] Edited by: FOl2TY8 on 10/12/2009 00:41:19 Originally by: Svett Remedial got the goons to pay his rent so he could continue to be in game more. Twice. I paid for his real doll. *edit and 2 replacement anuses.
Serj Darek Minmatar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2009.12.10 00:41:00 - [88] I have seen some despicable acts through the years in Eve, but this is about as bad as it gets. I wouldn't brag about it, but I guess in a loser kind of way it's impressive.
Nur AlHuda Amarr Callide Vulpis	Posted - 2009.12.10 00:59:00 - [89] Edited by: Nur AlHuda on 10/12/2009 00:59:18 If it would be some creative scam a la guiding hand social club or romeo scam it would be at least funny in a way. But stealing cash from newbies and involving paypal is way over the top. not mentioning involving offering RL services as part of a scam.
Serj Darek Minmatar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2009.12.10 01:24:00 - [90] Originally by: FOl2TY8 I paid for his real doll. *edit and 2 replacement anuses. Is the second one a "hot spare" of sorts, like a hard drive?

Mo'Chuisle Gallente The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 01:27:00 - [91] Originally by: FOl2TY8 Edited by: FOl2TY8 on 10/12/2009 00:41:19 Originally by: Svett Remedial got the goons to pay his rent so he could continue to be in game more. Twice. I paid for his real doll. *edit and 2 replacement anuses. Silly juggalo, you'll never "get" goons
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 02:16:00 - [92] Originally by: Nur AlHuda Edited by: Nur AlHuda on 10/12/2009 00:59:18 If it would be some creative scam a la guiding hand social club or romeo scam it would be at least funny in a way. But stealing cash from newbies and involving paypal is way over the top. not mentioning involving offering RL services as part of a scam. yeah i had lots of ambitious and dastardly plans for the corp we wanted to make, actually do fun stuff with it (apart from the whole skimming and robbing etc stuff which would really just be an afterthought) kinda sad skoot decided to go solo, could've done awesome things and not just mildly amusing scamming/stealing maybe he would've gone on to the awesome stuff if he hadn't blabbed to too many people :[
Kurj Valdoria Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 02:19:00 - [93] Edited by: Kurj Valdoria on 10/12/2009 02:22:01 Edited by: Kurj Valdoria on 10/12/2009 02:19:35 yeah i had lots of ambitious and dastardly plans for the corp we wanted to make, actually do fun stuff with it (apart from the whole skimming and robbing etc stuff which would really just be an afterthought) kinda sad skoot decided to go solo, could've done awesome things and not just mildly amusing scamming/stealing maybe he would've gone on to the awesome stuff if he hadn't blabbed to too many people :[ You could always log into eve instead of HON.........also props to skoot. Could you buy me a golem now? I'm a little short on funds.....
Jamez Graand Gallente I.M.M Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.12.10 02:20:00 - [94] Short Version - Created corp, asked for donations, farmed corporation. Saying that you "brainwashed" them for RL money is kinda bad. Other then that sounds cool. How did you get 75 bill off of noobs though. Can we have screenshots or lists of some of the more valuable hauls. Yo Ray!
Svett Caldari The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 02:25:00 - [95] Originally by: Mo'Chuisle Originally by: FOl2TY8 Edited by: FOl2TY8 on 10/12/2009 00:41:19 Originally by: Svett Remedial got the goons to pay his rent so he could continue to be in game more. Twice. I paid for his real doll. *edit and 2 replacement anuses. Silly juggalo, you'll never "get" goons I try real hard to be the best forums warrior.
johnjohn115 Caldari Trojan Trolls Zenith Affinity	Posted - 2009.12.10 02:37:00 - [96] been a while m8...i see your still doing your thing..lol Don't forget me (just right click and give isk).
Boppi Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2009.12.10 02:38:00 - [97] Originally by: Serj Darek I have seen some despicable acts through the years in Eve, but this is about as bad as it gets. I wouldn't brag about it, but I guess in a loser kind of way it's impressive. Controlling a 600mann-Corporation that controls Space in 0.0 and, as far as he claims, is following every command and is dedicated enough to even donate Real money. And he's only able to get 75 Bil in 3 months out of it. That's not even very impressive. ___________________________ 1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr
Mitch Taylor Caldari Dark-Rising IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 03:09:00 - [98] If you have the ability to lead a strong corp, you dont need isk and therefore have no reason to scam people who trusted you. I think this is a bit sad to be honest. The Dark is Rising...
Talon Scorpio Caldari REUNI0N Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2009.12.10 03:16:00 - [99] CAOD Validation is the Best Validation.
ThaDollaGenerale Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.12.10 04:03:00 - [100] Edited by: ThaDollaGenerale on 10/12/2009 04:04:14 Taken from Elysium Internal Forums: Quote: Hardass01 12-09-2009 05:20 AM F uck you laser Laser your a knob i have never liked you since day one your no leader you havent got a clue about anything real in life all you care about is your next scamm with your bum chum dev. Although i will thank you for the friends i have made in LT i hope and prey i come across you or your alts one day in eve as i now have a personal mission in my eve life to pod your ass all over eve online. On a personal note your **ing lucky im not an american as i would be hunting your ass down right now with the intent on making you find out what one of your balls tastes like i would even let you chose wich one. Ps if you were half the leader Andy is LT would have been One of the best corps in eve but alass Lt was crippled from the start by some less motherer who's name i keep forgetting........ O wait it's YOU. HARDASS You know, you guys want to *** about the scammer. But the stuff said on the internal forums of Elysium constitutes threats. Hardass01 might be getting an email or call from the FBI's cybercrime division. CCP take note, threats should not be condoned anywhere in relation to your game. Welcome to Bantown Hardass01. GOODBYE HARDASS01!

Rheakith Gallente The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 04:53:00 - [101] Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale Edited by: ThaDollaGenerale on 10/12/2009 04:07:54 Edited by: ThaDollaGenerale on 10/12/2009 04:04:14 Taken from Local Threat Internal Forums: Quote: Hardass01 12-09-2009 05:20 AM F uck you laser Laser your a knob i have never liked you since day one your no leader you havent got a clue about anything real in life all you care about is your next scamm with your bum chum dev. Although i will thank you for the friends i have made in LT i hope and prey i come across you or your alts one day in eve as i now have a personal mission in my eve life to pod your ass all over eve online. On a personal note your **ing lucky im not an american as i would be hunting your ass down right now with the intent on making you find out what one of your balls tastes like i would even let you chose wich one. Ps if you were half the leader Andy is LT would have been One of the best corps in eve but alass Lt was crippled from the start by some less motherer who's name i keep forgetting........ O wait it's YOU. HARDASS You know, you guys want to *** about the scammer. But the stuff said on the internal forums of Elysium constitutes threats. Hardass01 might be getting an email or call from the FBI's cybercrime division. CCP take note, threats should not be condoned anywhere in relation to your game. Welcome to Bantown Hardass01. GOODBYE HARDASS01! I don't see a threat there. He clearly stated that he wouldn't because he doesn't live in America. Also threads started on an external forum should in no way affect how things are handled by CCP. On a related note though... SS or it didn't happen.
Jones Bones Minmatar Final Agony	Posted - 2009.12.10 05:35:00 - [102] I'd screw over a bunch of NC nub bears for 75b, then I go inside and sleep like a ****ing baby. =================== Go Bucks!
UGWidowmaker Caldari freelancers inc F A I L	Posted - 2009.12.10 07:02:00 - [103] scamming people like this is always bad.. the fact you involve paypal aswell regardless of its use should ofc be a ban button worth.. your not worthy to play eve! OMFG I am the widowmaker stay tuned.
NsynC Ambition Minmatar Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2009.12.10 07:14:00 - [104] I like how the OP makes it sound like this requires effort and talent, this type of scamming has been going on forever,.. L2BOrignial
Svett Caldari The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 07:35:00 - [105] Originally by: Jones Bones I'd screw over a bunch of NC nub bears for 75b, then I go inside and sleep like a ****ing baby. Waking up every 2hrs crying because you're hungry/need a new diaper?
DeadDuck Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 08:28:00 - [106] Originally by: Metal Dude Congrats on being a s**bag. Karma is a * and I'm sure it will find you. Enjoy the pixels ISK. Since you are such a great scammer, I encourage you to try the same with real money. I'm sure it will get you far. This. God is my Wingman**
Varg Tepes Caldari Lonetrek trekkers	Posted - 2009.12.10 09:28:00 - [107] Lmao... Are u REALY chestbeating about screwing over noobies?? Jiiises... the depths some can sink to.. So.. if i was to go out in the street and beat up a 6yo right now (im 36yo btw), you would think i was insanely cool wouldnt you? No wonder u fly solo.. ure a tard!
darth solo Caldari Celestial Apocalypse death from above..	Posted - 2009.12.10 09:33:00 - [108] i have zero problem ruining ppls day by blowing them all up. But making ingame friends, building up a corp, then running away with all the isk is a little sad. i dont think its worth all that work for 75bill. my Rl tme is worh more than that. EVE is a big scam fest though with every second person looking to do it, so i suppose a big congrats is in order, i guess. d solo.
Rhyzalis Caldari Salus Novus United Front Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 09:40:00 - [109] Personally, I'm not really angry about this. I still got to play the game and I learned alot from being in the corp. AngryAndy has done an excellent job of holding things together after it was brought to light. The only qualm I have with your OP is the fact that you apparently "brainwashed" us. I'm pretty sure I wasn't brainwashed. I was just playing a game. :P
Jarne Caldari Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations	Posted - 2009.12.10 09:51:00 - [110] Originally by: Skoot Originally by: Dusty Monkey Quote: DECEPTION OFFENCES 2.13 The Theft Acts create eight offences of dishonestly getting something by deception, namely: (1) obtaining property; (2) obtaining a money transfer; OSHI- If corp members out of game agree to donate money to help pay for hosting then that is their choice and many corps do this. It is not uncommon. So you spend all the donated money for hosting? From your description I was under the impression you took it for yourself... I hope one of those "noobs" gets CCP to reveal your RL details and sues the hell out of you. Because what you did is just outright theft, in RL. - Success=Achievements/Expectations

Bonny Lee Caldari The Guardian Agency Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.12.10 10:13:00 - [111] Real masters of scams dont tell about. You are victim of your vanity.
farfrael Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 10:37:00 - [112] Originally by: Skoot Originally by: marxist revolutionary is it legal to get people to buy GTCs to get isk off them? i've been scamming for months but I never did this because some ***got told me if it could be proved I did this i'd be banned or something If you start a massive corp with lots of people, all the noobs teach eachother about GTC's all you have to do is ask for donations, literally. Get them in fleet, take them on a fun roam, and say "We need to buy stuff, donate isk" They figure out the GTC thing on their own. It became a standard practice that when you buy GTC's and sell them, that you give some isk to the corp. You see we had 0% tax, so donations is the only thing we had. I have been playing that game for 5 years, heard and seen all kind of scams but this really is a new low Abusing the lack of knowledge of new players by asking them to buy isks with RL cash is really despicable and clearly contributes to the overall RL money trading problem currently plaguing Eve. Hope CCP does a thorough job of closing all your accounts.
Naitsirch Secundus Caldari Dragon Clan Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2009.12.10 10:46:00 - [113] Hm, not sure if it is scamming or stealing or or or, but you misused the hopes of others. Fair enough for me, as most religions on earth do the same. But was has become of the famous "hit n run"? Are thieves now too proud to run? Ocean's Eleven was a nice movie, cuz it all happened behind the scenes, but this... And btw, since u like numerical stuff: 1. kiddies who are good in videogames tend to be good in pc-stuff in general. 2. kiddies who are donating their rl-money tend to be a bit pathetic. 3. a pathetic kid might get your IP, trace it back and do pathetic stuff to your ballz...
Cautet Caldari Celestial Apocalypse death from above..	Posted - 2009.12.10 11:09:00 - [114] Edited by: Cautet on 10/12/2009 11:13:55 I guess some people like kicking over their own sandcastles. It was impressive to build that, and it's up to you if you want to knock it down. But boasting about it is r3tarded. Maybe you set out to scam, but you should have realised at some point that the value of thing you lost was much greater than the value of the isk you got. Rather sad to be honest.
britishfish Minmatar Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.12.10 11:12:00 - [115] Originally by: Bonny Lee Real masters of scams dont tell about. You are victim of your vanity.
zaradiza Caldari Free Lapland The Kadeshi	Posted - 2009.12.10 12:32:00 - [116] So how did the recruitment process work? Nice scam btw. And as someone else pointed out, sounds like most alliances are run :)
Sator deHarak Caldari Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON	Posted - 2009.12.10 13:31:00 - [117] I'd just like to come clean to my own corporation, I'm scamming you too, I've made 4 mil off your year of hard work and ratting. It was spent on republic fleet emp medium. (ok, some barrage in there as well) TAKE THAT SUCKERS!
Hannah Ganktannah Caldari Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2009.12.10 14:41:00 - [118] Your my new hero
TexasFire Caldari Texas Deep Space Lone Star Defense League	Posted - 2009.12.10 15:10:00 - [119] I don't even know a good comment for this thread. I play Eve to escape the crap world around me. It only goes to prove that the crap is here too.
Doddy Gallente The Executives IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 15:24:00 - [120] The fail is strong with this one; OP - Look at me, look at me, i told noobs to donate money for hosting and instead i liquidated it into isk for myself. CAOD - well that is both a bannable offence and a crime in many countries OP - Don't be silly, i only said that to look cool.

Torshin Gallente Total Mayhem. Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2009.12.10 15:33:00 - [121] Any proof?
Saxon Gallente Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 16:22:00 - [122] Originally by: Doddy The fail is strong with this one; OP - Look at me, look at me, i told noobs to donate money for hosting and instead i liquidated it into isk for myself. CAOD - well that is both a bannable offence and a crime in many countries OP - Don't be silly, i only said that to look cool. This, btw, making 75 bills in 3 months with 600ppl ? what a **ing noob you are. U Got pod ?**
Skoot Gallente Local Threat	Posted - 2009.12.10 16:25:00 - [123] The hate is strong in this one lol.
Hannah Ganktannah Caldari Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2009.12.10 16:28:00 - [124] Originally by: Skoot The hate is strong in this one lol. i still lub u !
Stretchmeat Crotchquake Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.10 16:29:00 - [125] Originally by: Metal Dude Enjoy the pixels ISK. Since you are such a great scammer, I encourage you to try the same with real money. I'm sure it will get you far. Complaining about scamming/theft in Eve is like complaining that someone took all of your Monopoly money when you landed on a hotel.
Logan Williams Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2009.12.10 17:34:00 - [126] Originally by: Metal Dude Congrats on being a s**bag. Karma is a *** and I'm sure it will find you. Enjoy the pixels ISK. Since you are such a great scammer, I encourage you to try the same with real money. I'm sure it will get you far. God, I agree with Metal dude on something, the world is ending.
Cmdr TwinTurrets Caldari Space Perverts D0GS OF WAR	Posted - 2009.12.10 17:39:00 - [127] Originally by: Skoot The hate is strong in this one lol. ignore them skoot there just mad/jelous becuase people like u and i make alot more isk then these sad lossers and they hate us for it .. they forget eve is a game . not a freindship .. eve needs a bad guy and im proud to be one of them :) so great job on your success have fun with your earnings :)
Silmaire Minmatar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 18:06:00 - [128] guys, if you want to ban people for scamming in RL money, start with goons and with their know recruiting scamms . i sure everyone knows all about "the something awful forums", witch they tell recruiters to join and pay the fee so they can join goons ... This ? just peanuts considering what goons have been done overtime ... just my 2Ç
Skoot Gallente Local Threat	Posted - 2009.12.10 18:11:00 - [129] Originally by: Silmaire guys, if you want to ban people for scamming in RL money, start with goons and with their know recruiting scamms . i sure everyone knows all about "the something awful forums", witch they tell recruiters to join and pay the fee so they can join goons ... This ? just peanuts considering what goons have been done overtime ... just my 2Ç haha, how true, I wouldnt actually be the one who gets banned anyways, It would be the web guy that took the money. so shrugs
Boppi Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2009.12.10 18:19:00 - [130] Originally by: Silmaire guys, if you want to ban people for scamming in RL money, start with goons and with their know recruiting scamms . i sure everyone knows all about "the something awful forums", witch they tell recruiters to join and pay the fee so they can join goons ... This ? just peanuts considering what goons have been done overtime ... just my 2Ç Only that you get actually "Service" for the 10$, access to the SA-Forums (whoever wants that though) so it's not scamming. ___________________________ 1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr

L4NC3R Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.10 18:32:00 - [131] Wow, where to start? First of all, yes, I was around when this *got went ** IGNE. He thought he was killing us off when he did it. Well, the end result was we grew from that moment. Alpha Omega was his name back then. Skoot now. And numerous other alts most likely. What happened back then, to me, seemed large. He was a director. Kicked all those who had no roles, and removed roles from everyone who did. Stole some minuscule amount of isk from us, and started to beat his chest. Tried to actually join the corp again with this character Skoot. But IGNE grew from it. We are not the best-worst corp in Goonfleet. Are credited with disbanding BoB. Own our own stations. And are better then BTLS! Life cant get any better then this. I'm sorry you don't know how to make friends and keep them. I'm assuming your real life is just the same as your in game life. You gain trust of others, then rub it in their face and laugh at their misery. Your going to die alone, without a wife and kids. And I'm going to not feel sorry for you. Have fun with your isk. It's just Monopoly money. It's never going to bring you happiness. Inb4 "Umad?"
Ebodhisatva Gallente The Templars Knights	Posted - 2009.12.10 18:47:00 - [132] w00t, five pages of pure diarrhea...
Jerid Verges Gallente Zen Tech	Posted - 2009.12.10 19:32:00 - [133] There's a special place in MMO Hell for scammers...
Sevora Devout Gallente Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:02:00 - [134] Originally by: Skoot If corp members out of game agree to donate money to help pay for hosting then that is their choice. Originally by: Skoot and the other director just bought GTC's with the money that was donated Fine line...
Serj Darek Minmatar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:12:00 - [135] Edited by: Serj Darek on 10/12/2009 20:12:40 Originally by: Sevora Devout Originally by: Skoot If corp members out of game agree to donate money to help pay for hosting then that is their choice. Originally by: Skoot and the other director just bought GTC's with the money that was donated Fine line... It's not a violation of the eula unless they were selling the gtc's. It's a simple check to see if the person selling a GTC was the original purchaser, which is the way CCP closed the loophole iirc.
Goose Hypocrisy Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:14:00 - [136] Originally by: Silmaire guys, if you want to ban people for scamming in RL money, start with goons and with their know recruiting scamms . i sure everyone knows all about "the something awful forums", witch they tell recruiters to join and pay the fee so they can join goons ... This ? just peanuts considering what goons have been done overtime ... just my 2Ç Just when I thought that this thread couldn't become more stupid! -clp sig updated yo
Ace Frehley Minmatar Big Shadows Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:21:00 - [137] Some people enjoy the game by bragging about their scamming abilitys and become a "e-celeberty" Others, like me play the game as a social activity and just haveing fun, hanging out with others spacepilits wannabe, drink some beer or julmust and eat kladdkaka and enjoy eachothers company. Im the second one, and I hope you had fun with your scam and some useless isk. I¦m a happy poor guy, donate isk to me!
Sevora Devout Gallente Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:33:00 - [138] Edited by: Sevora Devout on 10/12/2009 20:33:40 Originally by: Serj Darek It's not a violation of the eula unless they were selling the gtc's. It's a simple check to see if the person selling a GTC was the original purchaser, which is the way CCP closed the loophole iirc. EULA.....lol your so cute.
Syllviaa Caldari Salus Novus United Front Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:41:00 - [139] Edited by: Syllviaa on 10/12/2009 20:42:34 I keep wondering exactly how any one was brain washed in the corp... You were almost never online. Anyway, the total ammount of isk taken was far closer to 7.5bil. Since you claim to have taken more & seem happy enough to back the fact up on your alts, the burden of proof is on you. The best part of your whole 'operarion' is out of 670 members, very few of them actually bought GTC's & fewer gave you any isk with it. I remember you begging people for isk so you could buy a jump freighter (Which you didn't even have the skills to pilot) & you got around 4 bil from that. 75bil is a nice figure, but the burden of proof is on you here. Have fun with that one. It was never a scam, it was a begging operation
Scatim Helicon Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.10 20:45:00 - [140] Originally by: Silmaire guys, if you want to ban people for scamming in RL money, start with goons and with their know recruiting scamms . i sure everyone knows all about "the something awful forums", witch they tell recruiters to join and pay the fee so they can join goons ... This ? just peanuts considering what goons have been done overtime ... just my 2Ç Lowtax thanks you for your :tenbux: -----------------

Skoot Gallente Local Threat	Posted - 2009.12.10 21:07:00 - [141] Originally by: Syllviaa Edited by: Syllviaa on 10/12/2009 20:42:34 I keep wondering exactly how any one was brain washed in the corp... You were almost never online. Anyway, the total ammount of isk taken was far closer to 7.5bil. Local Threat made 15 billion isk in the first 30 days of operation. Also, why not post with your main?
Skoot Gallente Local Threat	Posted - 2009.12.10 21:16:00 - [142] Originally by: L4NC3R Edited by: L4NC3R on 10/12/2009 18:42:19 Hi Alpha, hows it goin? LONG time, ask aaron if I can rejoin.
Skoot Gallente Local Threat	Posted - 2009.12.10 21:28:00 - [143] 5 pages and 15k views in 24 hours, not bad Thanks to everyone for all the tears. I dont really read CAOD, so take it easy. I wont be checking back in to this thread after this. I am also seeking a corp with 0.0 access on this character so I can fix my security status. check my recruitment thread here. I also extend my ability to do spy stuff to anyone willing to house me. (Ill spy on people for you or cause drama for them etc) http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1230613
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 21:52:00 - [144] Originally by: Syllviaa Edited by: Syllviaa on 10/12/2009 20:42:34 I keep wondering exactly how any one was brain washed in the corp... You were almost never online. Anyway, the total ammount of isk taken was far closer to 7.5bil. Since you claim to have taken more & seem happy enough to back the fact up on your alts, the burden of proof is on you. The best part of your whole 'operarion' is out of 670 members, very few of them actually bought GTC's & fewer gave you any isk with it. I remember you begging people for isk so you could buy a jump freighter (Which you didn't even have the skills to pilot) & you got around 4 bil from that. 75bil is a nice figure, but the burden of proof is on you here. Have fun with that one. It was never a scam, it was a begging operation Confirming I'm one of Skoot's many alts.
UVPhoenix2 Gallente R.EVE.olutioN Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2009.12.10 22:08:00 - [145] Originally by: Skoot I wont be checking back in to this thread after this. Doubt it. ___ After I'm gone, your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence, as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be.
Roman Bylar Caldari New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2009.12.10 22:10:00 - [146] Quote: 5 pages and 15k views in 24 hours, not bad Somebody is clearly over compensating for a small willy
Syllviaa Caldari Salus Novus United Front Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 22:13:00 - [147] Originally by: Skoot Also, why not post with your main? Had you ever been around, you would know this is my main.
Warrio Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.10 22:20:00 - [148] Wow, look at all 'em internet lawyers. -
sauliukas Amarr Salus Novus United Front Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.10 22:53:00 - [149] Next time I'm in Florida, I will buy you some beer. And btw you should give back all IRL money you scammed, to save some time for me.
Rorin Cutter Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.11 07:09:00 - [150] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Confirming I'm one of Skoot's many alts. Say it isn't so Tyrrax, hows life outside IAC going? -Rorin

Miep Miep Minmatar SteelVipers Ev0ke	Posted - 2009.12.11 08:15:00 - [151] Originally by: Gordo Fartis scamming in game? that is fair and mo problem with this but scamming in RL? via paypal.... I am not sure how legal this is and if companies like paypal will see the fun side of it If I am not wrong exchanging money through a traceable transaction is bordering on fraud in RL this
Dapto Minmatar Dissolution Of Eternity MeatSausage EXPRESS	Posted - 2009.12.11 08:18:00 - [152] Best fun I ever had was war dec'n Local Threat might have to do it again oh btw thanks for the intel skoot Dapto
Boppi Amarr Blue Republic	Posted - 2009.12.11 08:20:00 - [153] Originally by: UVPhoenix2 Originally by: Skoot I wont be checking back in to this thread after this. Doubt it. ___________________________ 1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr
Chingyz Caldari untaught Blade.	Posted - 2009.12.11 11:53:00 - [154] I don't see any proof of this happening. So here's a small C&P line for you Proof or STFU
Brobuck Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.12.11 15:34:00 - [155] Originally by: Skoot TL;DR I don't think this means what you think it means.
Racjel Caldari Raven Legion	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:03:00 - [156] If you don't know what to do with your ISK the donate them to me and ill make a good use of them.
Zangert Gallente Blueprint Haus Shadow of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2009.12.11 16:54:00 - [157] Under 1.5 million on average per day per noob? Nice idea but doesn't seem really worth it, should have thrown a small tax in there to make it a little better.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.11 17:59:00 - [158] Originally by: Rorin Cutter Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Confirming I'm one of Skoot's many alts. Say it isn't so Tyrrax, hows life outside IAC going? -Rorin p. good really ! and ofc it isn't so i'm mostly just playing HoN atm tho
Winters Chill Amarr Shadow Legion.	Posted - 2009.12.11 18:23:00 - [159] Poasting in a sandbox isn't for kitty litter thread. Ha. See what I did there.
Vibora BR Minmatar Ice Fire Warriors	Posted - 2009.12.12 03:44:00 - [160] Originally by: Skoot Originally by: Shad0w Hawk Scamming for real money via paypal? no Why not, you already scammed RL money as people has bought PLEX to donate ISKs to you. PLEXs are bought with RL money, so... Anyway, pretty sad knowing that new people in this game find just pain and misery as reward for hard working.

Kumq uat Gallente Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.12 21:12:00 - [161] Heyas Skoot! I miss your stories in IRC about living in a drug shack in Jersey. www.eve-pirate.com original author Please resize your sig to a maximum of 400 x 120 and a file size no greater than 24000 bytes - Mitnal
Cpt Boomstick Caldari Rednecks Bar Association	Posted - 2009.12.12 21:16:00 - [162] As far as I know, I was the first to call out the BS going on in this corp. 2 weeks after joining (3 weeks after starting game) my title was changed by laser to "Our CEO is scamming all of us". I asked him why the name of his character that recuited me was named "demonic intentions" he lold. I asked him why he ran deliberate suicide missions and demanded people buy goods from a designated station that he delivered to, which were overpriced "to keep the spies from buying it up", he lold. I guess the point I'm making is that, I knew this whole thing was bull** for a long time, but enjoyed the corp members enough to not care what direction the boat was headed. There's a lot of cool guys from LT. Im proud to say I never donated 1 penny of isk regardless of being called "selfish" over the coms by the CEO several times. I do have a small confession to make. The day you made me an admin for teamspeak so "I could show new noobs how to register properly". 5 minutes later when I revoked my rights as an admin to normal status you seemed ed and asked why? I responded with "I dont like tech support", thats not true, I just don't like working for *****s. Have fun ex LT members, I hope Andy's new corp works out well.
Deathvoucher Amarr Easy Co.	Posted - 2009.12.13 02:02:00 - [163] can i has some of your stuffs?
Jobby Minmatar B4D W0LF Undivided	Posted - 2009.12.13 06:40:00 - [164] Suicide been considered yet? Here's an idea; make that 5 minute posting rule not applicable to accounts 5 years old or more. O_o

CCP Ildoge Caldari C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.13 07:58:00 - [165] * This thread has been locked while we look into possible malfeasance. - CCP Ildoge Ildoge Community Representative CCP Hf Contact us



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