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Komen Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2009.12.16 08:25:00 - [31] Edited by: Komen on 16/12/2009 08:24:58 So waaay back when, there was some hint of players becoming Jove, at some later date. This has quietly been dropped. Several years ago there were a few player events that involved the Jove, with GM's portraying Jovian characters during set-piece events. I personally am against players becoming jove, though gaining more of their technology (the Pods are Jovian tech), or perhaps a series of roleplay events with a war, or minor skirmish, or something, wouldn't be half-bad. Edit: Page 2 snipah.
Eldern Minderhost	Posted - 2009.12.16 08:45:00 - [32] Originally by: Boomershoot May i remind you all that jovian motherships are equipped with a **ING DEATHRAY which **D VIRTUALLY TWO THIRD OF THE WHOLE AMARR EMPIRE FLEET in ONE ENGAGEMENT? Erm... Wait... what did Dominion do to titan doomsdays? oh. yeah. About that "giant deathray". Also, the Jovian mothership is analogous to our titans, not our motherships... it's a holdover from pre-capital days when titans had yet to be introduced. The battle to which you are referencing was totally one-sided for more reasons than just technology. A traitor among the Amarrian command, the Jovians' possessing every detail of the Amarrian battle plans, and a titan with a doomsday against a non-capital fleet. The jovians are not nearly as "uber" as everyone makes them out to be. At least not according to the backstory. Their advantage comes in certain isolated fields of technology as well as an all-encompassing information network.
Carniflex Fallout Research Fallout Project	Posted - 2009.12.16 08:54:00 - [33] To create from scratch ? - No prolly not. To morph into one eventually - maybe. Let's say after you have 200 mil SP you can become one losing all your SP in the process, getting better stats and starting from zero with training. Or something like that - hehe.
Kendar Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.12.16 08:57:00 - [34] CCP could make Jove an isk sink by opening their system and having jove as a neutral npc with their own police and they could sell advanced technology for isk, like some of their ships and equipment for a very high price, and no blueprints jove cruiser skill book 40 bill isk jove cruiser 50 bill isk and they could be somewhat overpowered that would drain some of that isk off the market
Elena Laskova	Posted - 2009.12.16 08:58:00 - [35] "Power inflation" is good for older players, bad for new ones. Assuming CCP want to make more money, they should be looking at making it easier for lower-SP characters to get into more aspects of the game rather than setting ever more difficult and distant objectives.
Michael McDonald	Posted - 2009.12.16 08:59:00 - [36] Well.. They kind of glossed over it at Fan Fest.. They said that the introduction of Jovian Characters was on the unseen horizon. They didnÆt have really any information about them other than that they were to be introduced. Anyone else who was there recall what they actually said? I was a bit fuzzy due to alcohol. Personally, I donÆt care to have a Jovian character. I want their STUFF!! Ships... Modsà Gemme Gemme Gemme!
Marko Riva Adamant Inc	Posted - 2009.12.16 09:00:00 - [37] Originally by: Elena Laskova "Power inflation" is good for older players, bad for new ones. Assuming CCP want to make more money, they should be looking at making it easier for lower-SP characters to get into more aspects of the game rather than setting ever more difficult and distant objectives. That's funny, over the years new players seem to have been able to do just fine and the whole IDEA of EVE is to be a long term thing and not cater for people with a 3 second attention span. ----------- I think, therefore I'm single. New projectile damage PDF Alliance creation service
Yonna Paris Gallente Hinata House	Posted - 2009.12.16 09:03:00 - [38] Originally by: Ishee Makara why create the race if you have no plans of ever doing anything with it?? You clearly don't work in software development Software is never written from scratch exactly the way it needs to be. Plans change, visions change, tech changes, people change..
RaTTuS BIG Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2009.12.16 09:08:00 - [39] when you get to 140Mil SP you get the jove disease and are then able to re-create your portrait, nothgin else changes -- 3 Titans Lottery EB \| Capital
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2009.12.16 09:11:00 - [40] Originally by: Eldern Minderhost Originally by: Boomershoot May i remind you all that jovian motherships are equipped with a **ING DEATHRAY which **D VIRTUALLY TWO THIRD OF THE WHOLE AMARR EMPIRE FLEET in ONE ENGAGEMENT? Erm... Wait... what did Dominion do to titan doomsdays? oh. yeah. About that "giant deathray". Also, the Jovian mothership is analogous to our titans, not our motherships... it's a holdover from pre-capital days when titans had yet to be introduced. The battle to which you are referencing was totally one-sided for more reasons than just technology. A traitor among the Amarrian command, the Jovians' possessing every detail of the Amarrian battle plans, and a titan with a doomsday against a non-capital fleet. The jovians are not nearly as "uber" as everyone makes them out to be. At least not according to the backstory. Their advantage comes in certain isolated fields of technology as well as an all-encompassing information network. The Jovian Deathray ROF is roughly 30 seconds (IIRC). It deals AoE Damage. Jovian titans are also as big as a moon. You were saying?
Elena Laskova	Posted - 2009.12.16 09:12:00 - [41] Originally by: Marko Riva That's funny, over the years new players seem to have been able to do just fine and the whole IDEA of EVE is to be a long term thing and not cater for people with a 3 second attention span. Over the years, the proportion of players living in highSec has steadily increased. Of course this suits the inhabitants of lowSec and noSec, who treat rookies as a consumable. But it would seem that more and more players are playing less and less of the game. BTW - insults like "3-second attention span" are better placed in posts with considered arguments.
Kendar Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.12.16 09:12:00 - [42] Edited by: Kendar on 16/12/2009 09:13:16 i hope we never see jove as a player char, it will remove some of the mystery with eve like when they gave us titans and we can now see several titans at the same time i dont want to see jove smacking in local or mining in empire.. and new players already have way too much to get their minds wra.ped around
PeHD0M	Posted - 2009.12.16 09:37:00 - [43] I hope that we will never be able to create a jovian char. Because, it is lame. It will be like WOW or Lineage 2(kamael race). It will ruin storyline.
Vaneshi SnowCrash	Posted - 2009.12.16 09:47:00 - [44] Originally by: Ishee Makara The why did the create them? And to keep it balanced, couldn't they just tailor the storyline to show that their technology faltered due to the Jovian sickness, or maybe they were not as advanced as one thought, or infighting led to movement backwards in their technology? I know. Its a stretch, but why create the race if you have no plans of ever doing anything with it?? Jove were going to be the uber enemey from what I remember. Basically god like creatures vastly out teching us. To get up to their level it'd be one T level per year give or take with Jove being around T6. Most of that, frankly stupid idea, went out the window although the Jove were left behind with a bit of fluff about plauges and such. The Dev's occasionally used Jove characters but now don't (not sure if that's through choice of company policy but whatever). One day the Jove might appear in an expansion but looking at fanfest CCP have some really nifty stuff planned for a good long while.
Marko Riva Adamant Inc	Posted - 2009.12.16 09:48:00 - [45] Originally by: Elena Laskova Originally by: Marko Riva That's funny, over the years new players seem to have been able to do just fine and the whole IDEA of EVE is to be a long term thing and not cater for people with a 3 second attention span. Over the years, the proportion of players living in highSec has steadily increased. Of course this suits the inhabitants of lowSec and noSec, who treat rookies as a consumable. But it would seem that more and more players are playing less and less of the game. BTW - insults like "3-second attention span" are better placed in posts with considered arguments. Low(er) sp characters can do just fine, if you have 30 non-idiot players with 2-5 mil sp who understand teamwork and realise that things take a little bit of effort, thinking and planning and you give them proper leadership you can take that group into low sec and live there doing well. The issue is that this involves effort, risk, some thinking and people moving away from the "must grind because that's what I've learned from other MMO's". The "problem" comes from the fact that EVE in the early beginning was so very much niche that, on average, it attracted people who WANTED the danger, risk and effort. These days, due to advertisement and the game becoming "easier" and also more well rounded and interesting, it attracts way more people who just want to play internet spaceships. Then add to that the fact that doing lvl 4's is WAY to profitable for the effort and risk it involves and you get the situation that there's more and more people (percent wise) in high sec. It has NOTHING to do with how easy it is to attain certain goals, ships or whatever because if that was the case the amount of people in high, low and 0.0 should have stayed the same percentagewise over the years. ----------- I think, therefore I'm single. New projectile damage PDF Alliance creation service

CCP Wrangler	Posted - 2009.12.16 10:22:00 - [46] Originally by: Jaggeh Originally by: De'Veldrin Originally by: Awesome Possum Originally by: Awesome Possum NONOWSHAD**BOUTITFORCHRISSAKE why in the love of god is D-U-P-A censored??? I was just wondering the same thing. Overzealous profanity filter ftw. it means a-s-s in polish It was removed from the filter, we inherited the filter so we stumble upon these things from time to time. In case anyone finds a word they think shouldn't be in the filter, or should be there, please submit a petition in the Other Issues > Community category and we'll look into it. Wrangler Senior Community Manager** CCP Hf, EVE Online Contact us If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.

Vaneshi SnowCrash	Posted - 2009.12.16 10:25:00 - [47] Originally by: Marko Riva Then add to that the fact that doing lvl 4's is WAY to profitable for the effort and risk it involves and you get the situation that there's more and more people (percent wise) in high sec. And yet when you watch the undock ramps at various hubs it's player corps undocking. But this isn't the place for 0.0 profitability vs L4 grinding. Personally I don't see EVE has become easier or harder over the years I've flirted with it; whilst it has a few oddities and gotchas with each expansion but well that's EVE really isn't it? The problem isn't necessarily that those 30 low-sp players aren't capable of killing pretty much anything in their way bar a cap ship or are idiots per say. It's that in every other MMO out there it doesn't matter if you have 20 L2 characters... you ain't gonna kill that L40 person. Even 30 absolute noobs just spawning out of their starting station for the first time could blast a battleship sat there and kill it (well maybe not, Concord spawns damn fast in a 1.0). We all know it. They don't. And from trying to explain this to people in the starter corp I was in it seems to be the hardest concept to graps about EVE: Teams are actually stronger than their individual members here. tl'dr version: Swarms work.
Captain Pompous Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It	Posted - 2009.12.16 12:10:00 - [48] Originally by: CCP Wrangler It was removed from the filter, we inherited the filter so we stumble upon these things from time to time. So your forums are secondhand? Figures, given how temperemental and, well, shoddy, they can be --- Even though you might disagree with what I say, that doesn't automatically make me a troll.
FT Cold Mission Runner Exclusive	Posted - 2009.12.16 12:54:00 - [49] In the lore it says that Jove have a disease they can't cure and are going to be extint so.... Why not let people create Jove characters but the character dies after 6 months? Have it so theat they train at 4x the speed and have all maxed attributes. In following with the evil part of it, concord will attack you in high-sec and you can only make items from T3 salvage/sleepers and high end minerals (or new mins). This gives CCP the following: 1. ISK Sinks that they so much love 2. Even more $$ for monthly subs (1 Jove per acct, starts to die at creation time) 3. More low-sec/nullsec movements
Ferdio Ricotez Gallente	Posted - 2009.12.16 13:01:00 - [50] Originally by: Ulair Memmet I heard the (old) star wars galaxies had an extra character slot, just for the jedi. So they werent a normal class like the others. i heard they could even get permakilled and you had to get a new one after that. CCP could do something similar with Jovians. Then the balancing with the other races would not be an issue anymore. Yeah right, so you tell me the freaking inventors of the pod don't use it? ----- Gallente flying Minmatar - A Podlog
Att Itude Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2009.12.16 13:04:00 - [51] Originally by: Shasta Racka I happen to have the one Jove character in the game I won way back in a contest held in Beta. I have been training her up for the past 6 years. 120 mil SP. Some really cool Jove faction ships. But, I don't actually player her at all anymore. If you want to make an offer, I might sell her for a 500 billion ISK, but nothing less. Oh my. I'd love to see THAT char in the "Character Bazaar" forums. You should do it once just for the giggles and the "oooh, ahh" factor. Start the bidding at 450B, buyout hidden but over a trillion. You know you will sell it. It is rumored there is a certain Russian fellow who seems to think he can buy anything and anyone in this game, you know................
Wendat Huron Stellar Solutions	Posted - 2009.12.16 13:09:00 - [52] Originally by: Att Itude Originally by: Shasta Racka I happen to have the one Jove character in the game I won way back in a contest held in Beta. I have been training her up for the past 6 years. 120 mil SP. Some really cool Jove faction ships. But, I don't actually player her at all anymore. If you want to make an offer, I might sell her for a 500 billion ISK, but nothing less. Oh my. I'd love to see THAT char in the "Character Bazaar" forums. You should do it once just for the giggles and the "oooh, ahh" factor. Start the bidding at 450B, buyout hidden but over a trillion. You know you will sell it. It is rumored there is a certain Russian fellow who seems to think he can buy anything and anyone in this game, you know................ Abramabichovich plays EVE? I wouldn't buy that character even it it existed, it would have some lameass name like Att Itude or something like that forever tainting it. Delenda est achura.
Levi	Posted - 2009.12.16 14:09:00 - [53] Hey Wrangler, 'sup answer the question.
Lirielee	Posted - 2009.12.16 14:16:00 - [54] Originally by: Ishee Makara The why did the create them? And to keep it balanced, couldn't they just tailor the storyline to show that their technology faltered due to the Jovian sickness, or maybe they were not as advanced as one thought, or infighting led to movement backwards in their technology? I know. Its a stretch, but why create the race if you have no plans of ever doing anything with it?? supposedly they gave the pod design to the caldari originally, would be somewhat hard to be pod pillots without a pod i guess
Winters Chill Amarr Shadow Legion. Talos Coalition	Posted - 2009.12.16 14:24:00 - [55] @OP Its not likely. If CCP where ever to do "vet"/"epic" style characters Jove mutations or sentient AI are probably on the list. Being the logical choice. Since Jove Space is still on the map it is more likely than say sleeper characters.
Muadd Dibb Caldari Calimae Logistics Foundation Manifest Destiny.	Posted - 2009.12.16 14:40:00 - [56] In a way the jovian race could be intergarated back into EvE. Problem is that everybody thinks the jovian race is ubber and tbh there not. They only seem ubber out of fiction and what you have seen on videos. People seem to forget that when you see one on video is a stress test by ccp or wrangler being really boring and CCP fitting one then going for a ap joy ride. If you look at the fittings of the eidolon Eidolon Youll see there pretty standard to a faction bs. Basically the Jovian race was doomed from the start in eve therefore being classed as a myth and oooo aahhh "I SAW ONE" It is a shame though I would snap up the chance of flying a jove bs. Dont forget though we do have the frigate End of the day CCP wont bring them back cos CCP are all amarr and the jove will kick there butt again But id still like to believe theres a little Jove in them ... one day ... maybe
Ansala Minmatar	Posted - 2009.12.16 16:31:00 - [57] At points there were rumours the Jove race would be added, similar to I how I believe CoH added character upgrades. That is, once you reach a certain skill points, you become advanced enough to be invited to convert to and join the Jovian race. At that point you start training all over again, at Jove frig level 1. So for awhile, all the end-game players end up back in frigs, gradually working their way back up the ladder.
Jove Amarr Viziam	Posted - 2009.12.16 17:03:00 - [58] o/
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Shadows Of The Federation	Posted - 2009.12.16 17:04:00 - [59] Anyone who played SWG and experienced the mass insanity that drove the holo grind in the quest to unlock their Jedi should be able to say without a doubt that this would break EVE Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator
Impel Girl METR0P0LIS	Posted - 2009.12.16 17:08:00 - [60] I'm pretty sure one day they will add the possibility to create a Jovian character and the market will flourish with Jovian ships, skills, weapons and modules. When that day comes, I will be the first to buy a new account and create one of the first Jovian characters ever in EVE.

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