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Hester Prynn	Posted - 2009.12.16 03:04:00 - [1] Can a cloak be activated if you are not targeted while you are inside a warp bubble? I have not found a thread on this and apologize if it has been covered before.
Darcon Kylote Terminal Impact	Posted - 2009.12.16 03:08:00 - [2] Yes. -- Terminal Impact is recruiting PVPers for fun ops in lowsec/0.0/wormhole space. Visit our website or join ingame channel "the tict pub".
Vasim Vio The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.12.16 12:00:00 - [3] Yes, you can cloak inside (and even warp cloaked inside if you're in covops). But there is always something in center of bubble - HIC, mobile warp disruptor or warp disrupt probe. This thing will decloak you if you get in 2km range of it. Check directional scanner for distance to warp disrupt probe (HICs and mobile warp disruptors are visible in overview), don't get too close.
Hester Prynn	Posted - 2009.12.16 14:14:00 - [4] Thanks guys. Yeah, about anything can decloak a cloaker at close range--just wasn't sure about bubbles. People are even throwing out tons of jet cans around blobs as viable decloaking tools.
Blue Dragon ION Corp. Holdings	Posted - 2009.12.16 19:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Hester Prynn Thanks guys. Yeah, about anything can decloak a cloaker at close range--just wasn't sure about bubbles. People are even throwing out tons of jet cans around blobs as viable decloaking tools. It's a bit of an annoyance, but I won't begrudge the guys for thinking of it. It's a sound tactic. I have a small collection of waypoints I use now to get to the high risk gates from various angles. Up, over and back down just because of that. Slows me down alot, but as long as they don't have the gate covered from all angles, I'm fine.
Randomina Randomona	Posted - 2009.12.17 08:05:00 - [6] Originally by: Hester Prynn People are even throwing out tons of jet cans around blobs as viable decloaking tools. No thats not allowed and is petitionable.
Ishamoridin Caldari Cute and Friends Cute Alliance	Posted - 2009.12.17 09:03:00 - [7] It's allowed as a decloaking method, you can only petition is it causes noticable lag.
Ethan Blue Rubicon Vanguard Emergence.	Posted - 2009.12.17 16:49:00 - [8] Edited by: Ethan Blue on 17/12/2009 16:49:32 Originally by: Ishamoridin It's allowed as a decloaking method, you can only petition is it causes noticable lag. This is wrong. It is, according to CCP, considered to be an exploit. It will get you warned, then it will get you banned. Saw a GM warning myself on my buddies computer.
Fulbert Gallente	Posted - 2009.12.17 20:50:00 - [9] Originally by: Hester Prynn Can a cloak be activated if you are not targeted while you are inside a warp bubble? I have not found a thread on this and apologize if it has been covered before. Of course, that's why all ships fitted with Covert Ops Cloaking Device II can avoid gatecamps so easily. They get out the bubble before the campers find them... -------------------------------- Fulbert. Miner - Industrialist
Toonces Otama	Posted - 2009.12.18 21:33:00 - [10] Originally by: Ethan Blue Edited by: Ethan Blue on 17/12/2009 16:49:32 Originally by: Ishamoridin It's allowed as a decloaking method, you can only petition is it causes noticable lag. This is wrong. It is, according to CCP, considered to be an exploit. It will get you warned, then it will get you banned. Saw a GM warning myself on my buddies computer. Right, and I've had a GM tell me it's a valid tactic. It seems to depend on which GM you get when you petition. This arguement seems to happen here on the forums every time the subject comes up. I'd love to see someone from CCP post on its legitimacy, but as far as I know, no such post exists. If they've commented on it here, I'd like to see it.

Pytria Le'Danness	Posted - 2009.12.18 22:41:00 - [11] Originally by: Toonces Otama Right, and I've had a GM tell me it's a valid tactic. As far as I understand it it's considered a valid tactic unless someone complains about it (=petitions it) due to the lag it caused. And obviously no one will petition "Wahh Waaa whine, I got decloaked by a can and lost my ship", they will petition "I was so totally and horribly lagged out by those two cans and I want my ship back KTHXBYE". We've had GMs remove five or so jet cans that were supposed to be targets for fireworks during an RP event, so you just have to whine loud enough to get your way.
Incipus	Posted - 2009.12.20 23:38:00 - [12] Originally by: Vasim Vio Yes, you can cloak inside (and even warp cloaked inside if you're in covops). But there is always something in center of bubble - HIC, mobile warp disruptor or warp disrupt probe. This thing will decloak you if you get in 2km range of it. Check directional scanner for distance to warp disrupt probe (HICs and mobile warp disruptors are visible in overview), don't get too close. Not sure what's wrong with my cloak but I've been unable to cloak inside (or at the edge) of a bubble before. I'm positive I was more than 2,000m away from the bubble generation point, too... Any guess what was going on?
Fornicis Caldari APOCALYPSE LEGION	Posted - 2009.12.21 00:52:00 - [13] Originally by: Incipus Originally by: Vasim Vio Yes, you can cloak inside (and even warp cloaked inside if you're in covops). But there is always something in center of bubble - HIC, mobile warp disruptor or warp disrupt probe. This thing will decloak you if you get in 2km range of it. Check directional scanner for distance to warp disrupt probe (HICs and mobile warp disruptors are visible in overview), don't get too close. Not sure what's wrong with my cloak but I've been unable to cloak inside (or at the edge) of a bubble before. I'm positive I was more than 2,000m away from the bubble generation point, too... Any guess what was going on? You may have been locked by a ship without realise it?
Lady Australia	Posted - 2009.12.21 07:26:00 - [14] Originally by: Vasim Vio (and even warp cloaked inside if you're in covops). uh whut?
Andrew IFA Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.12.21 10:29:00 - [15] he means you can warp into the bubble and not get decloak by it (the interdiction sphere) itself, unless you get decloaked by a hic or the actual generator probe etc
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon Minor Threat.	Posted - 2009.12.22 13:54:00 - [16] Quote: Saw a GM warning myself on my buddies computer .. Right, and I've had a GM tell me it's a valid tactic Too bad this is also assumedly the main reason CCP forbids posting quotes from GMs: to be able to live with inconsistent GM rulings. Hope CCP could some day come up with published maintained list of 'precedent rulings' to clear issues like this. Like with this issue the current situation is: - I can't use jetcans for decloaking since it has been declared as exploit in some places - The above guy can pretty legaly do it since a GM has told him so (but he is not allowed to quote it so others could use it as justification) -Lasse letting corpses/wrecks gather naturally for decloaking
Polkageist Minmatar tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2009.12.24 09:40:00 - [17] .
Vaerah Vahrokha Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2009.12.24 10:38:00 - [18] Originally by: Incipus Not sure what's wrong with my cloak but I've been unable to cloak inside (or at the edge) of a bubble before. I'm positive I was more than 2,000m away from the bubble generation point, too... Any guess what was going on? Gate campers don't salvage wrecks so those can uncloak you. CCP cannot ban them for not looting / salvaging. Others seem weird when they look to buy corpses, but it's because they can spread corpses. These are not visible in overview by default and thus you are probably bound to pass close to one and get uncloaked. Plus, since they are not visible like cans, you are also less bound to petition that expedient. - Auditing and consulting Before asking for investors, please read http://tinyurl.com/n5ys4h and http://tinyurl.com/lrg4oz
Synth Elleta	Posted - 2009.12.24 11:51:00 - [19] Originally by: Polkageist . Good point?
Wacktopia Dark Side Of The Womb	Posted - 2009.12.24 12:03:00 - [20] Originally by: Vasim Vio Yes, you can cloak inside (and even warp cloaked inside if you're in covops). You cannot warp from within a bubble in a covops ship, regardless of whether you are cloaked. The only ship that can do this is one of them clever T3 cruiser thingies with the right upgrade mod. ---------------------- They're angry there was damage done to their ship.



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