If you're refering to the original post, then I fail to see where I came to the conclusion that highsec needs nerfing. Forcing players to move by the stick and not the carrot is not the right way to go. Boost null - yes, but nerfing highsec just pisses too many people off.

As low already has lvl 4's, where is the carrot in this?

nuke hisec incursions, make it exclusive to lowsec

done, more people leave hisec, even if it's just daytrips to lowsec

Your carrot needs work, doesn't really add anything new or more profitable. Just more of the same.

If that were the case it wouldn't be worth asking for as nothing would change.

Dunno, between the extra caution, needing to secure an area to run, losses, etc. and having this all exasperated by a higher population, unless you are already in the entrenched groups you mentioned, it sounds better to just smash 3's in highsec.

Forgive my ignorance of null sec and jump freighters and feel free to correct me but as I understand the current mechanics a jump freighter jumps from Null Sec to Low Sec and then gate jumps the rest of the way to a market hub to sell commodities like Technetium. My idea is based on this assumption. Again, if it is incorrect please let me know.

Why not allow a jump freighter to only jump within Null and then gate jump through several systems in Low Sec before getting to High Sec and the market hub?

It could potentially increase the population in Low Sec by giving PvP enthusiasts and pirates nice targets to shoot at. It could give Null Sec residents something to do by forcing them to put together escort fleets (likely Drakes and Logistics) for their Freighter Convoys - Small gang PvP in Low Sec - Fun for Null Sec residents.

Just theorycrafting out loud here.

Well, I've read pretty much every post in this thread and think there's a lot of point-missing.

If you took all the alts out of hisec, you'd be left mostly with casual gamers. They're not motivated primarily by ISK/hr, although that's a part of it. Casual gamers generally don't want a hyper-competitive environment, they want a social activity, sometimes to the extent that their profession is a background while they chat with corpmates. Dicking around with the efficiency of refineries or the location of L4s is not going to change much because it' completely misunderstands people's motivations.

Again, what stops a large number of people from getting into null is that they perceive it as being full of assholes. Now, I'm sure I'm going to get a load of the usual "this isn't hellokittyonline"-type replies, but if you want more people in null, the solution really isn't rocket science.

It's funny, currently highsec ores are passing Crokite on the isk/m3 scale. I think before long, null miners will be moving to highsec where the real money is.

Unless they provide more than 100% return, and do it quicker than instantly, they can't compete with station refineries. Station refineries don't cost isk to run, POSes do.

Nice strawman, since that's not what I'm saying.

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We have this thing called PvP, maybe you've heard of it.

Of course there is, but often there's a lot of ways to make more money in other areas with less effort.
Since things called "alts" exist, 0.0 players will make money with their PvE character elsewhere and fight with their PvP character in 0.0. This phenomena irritates roaming gankers to no end who then complain about how 'finding ratters and carebears in 0.0 is too hard", when in reality they just don't exist.

Or we could just propose JF nerfs again and all become hermits with our own little markets.

Man, if I could find a way to get out to null somewhere in some backwater system and not have to socialize with people I'd love blasting rats in the face while basking in the beauty of a desolate, empty space....set the scene by pointing my ship towards the sun.

I wonder if I could somehow get a cloaked ratting ship and some cans out somewhere and live of of that? Bleh, how would I fit my stuff?

It basically boils down to people don't feel safe enough in null sec to make their ISK.