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Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 15:42:00 -
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I'd really like to join a null sec corp and do roams and even mission with corp members however, I feel that I have no where near the ability to earn enough to replace battle cruisers or cruisers and if Im forced to replace frigates on my own I'd bottom out in a month or so.
How do folks get to a point where you can begin a positive isk pvp lifestyle... or is that a total myth and is pvp the ultimate isk sink as I expect it to be.
I've been working forever it seems and a day to get to level 4 missions but, the closer I get the more it seems like that may have been a newb filled pipe dream... and may never lead to a life of high adventure. I still do love the missions however, although it would be more fun with others if I could find that rare trustyium I've heard wild tale of and only seen once fleetingly in practice...
Are there corporations that still provide tackle ships, income and advice to NEEEeeeewwwwbzzzz without requiring a 24/7 lifetime commitment (RL Dad and employee here).
I do love Eve, I love the spirit of the game, the risk, the adventure, and this is my 3rd time attempting subscription but... I can't seem to figure out how to support learning the pvp ropes without bottoming out my pittiful isk tank.
In the past I have had far flung adventures with some great folks in corps that eventually went belly up... but, Im not sure if the current political climate even allows for merryment and casual adventure anymore... Im also a bit scared of getting shanghi'd into some kind of slavery... my peoples have been known to get enslaved before and I'd like to avoid it if possible...
I've been running my brain capacitor on overheat for some time now and still got nothing but an empty broken lightbulb and a wallet that grows by millions in a environment dominated by billions.
anywho... hope someone gets this message in a pod and can give out some sage advice regarding how to become a good wingman in a profitable corp that values it's members and helps it's younglings...
thx in advance. |
Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 16:10:00 -
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Faction...
yes this is one of my huge problems.. I originally started my main before FW's, and got Shanghi'd in a friendly fun and informative way to moving out to Caldari space with a null sec corp that eventually went belly up.
Currently I have a 6.2 standing with the caldari navy and I've even... killed some gallienti npcs... not sure if I can even move home... without getting shot... and I actually plan to experiment witha Ren's run later in a stripped jump clone with a stripped rifter JIC...
From what I've seen thou Jita pwnz Rens and I'd be seriously afraid of what would happen if all those mission drakes woke up one day and decided Mini's need to cease to exist... I seriously wonder what if anything a bunch of herpacanes could do if the evil ducks attack. I see those evil ducks up close every day... and missles aren't fair...
It would be great thou to be among other mini's and learn the ways of our racial ships... cause as it is ... the only advice avialable to me is for drakes, ravens and other stuff I have no desire to fly. |
Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 16:19:00 -
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Bronya Boga wrote:Im surprised no one mentioned incursions. They might not be popular but i run hq sites and they provide 31.5m evry half an hour or so, thats how i fund my addiction its not boring and all u need is a good tanky bs or a supertanky bc. (Shield preferably).
ive seen drakes and hugnins getting into fleet. If u got questions pm me in game :)
That would be perfect but... no one is going to want an AC herpacane in an incursion. lol... let alone one I can't replace... well at least for an hour I wouldn't be able too.. lol... |
Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 16:35:00 -
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Tolrok Qorte wrote:
Minmatar is dominating FW at the moment actually. We've actually been having to roam into Caldari space just to find some plexes to run. And I highly doubt your standing is so low that you'll be shot by the NPCs around here, you can always run some missions and pick it up though.
Yes I've read that!
How in gods name do you survive without access to Jita thou? Dodixe? Rens?
Everytime I see someone talk about winmatar... Im baffled... then again the only pvp experience I have was orbiting at 500m doing 2200m/s and like 100 dps and praying my mates killed my target before the drones or missles ate me and usually... the drones ate me as I wasn't worth the missles... well actually back then I was flying faster than the explosion of the missles but I don't think they let you do that anymore... |
Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 16:43:00 -
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lol
tackling is fun... so liberating to have an FC call your # and realize you no longer have to do isk calcs in your head anymore... you can just put on yer anime face and go for it. |
Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 16:45:00 -
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darmwand wrote:Tolrok Qorte wrote:Minmatar have some solid pvp ships if you can fly them, just like any race. Indeed. I love popping Drakes in my Cane.
I'd kill to learn how to do that... litterally.  |
Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 17:50:00 -
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Lost Greybeard wrote:If you can't manage to kill someone, just scamper off. Drakes are bloody slow so getting out of their point shouldn't be rocket science, at least one on one.
Ya not really a how to kill something thread... all though I appreciate the advice... although once again rule 1 of eve at this point would solidly keep me from engaging a drake in my derpacane. Actually rule 1 of eve should be forcing me to mission in rifters but... while I can get away with it like a thief in the night... I will, and so far... fingers crossed... things have worked out... although I got freaking pointed in an L3 last night... what...!!!!!????? that was a bit over the top.
More like a hey how do I start the long journey of learning pvp kind of thread...
with a hint of... how do you ever afford to fly BC's into Pvp kind of jist, cause...
I broke... I got one cane... and bearly enough to buy another cane hull... then Im belly up... and selling plex,
cause the whole mission up to 60 mil in a rifter thing sounds good on paper... but... yea... no ...
not again... not in this insanely inflated market... no sir.
also... they POINT IN L3s NOW... /swoon... |
Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 19:00:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:I jump clone to hi-sec for few days a week to do incursions, then jump back to 0.0 to pvp. Only thing that sucks is I have to time my jumps very well so I don't miss out on either adventure. I also miss out on the random spur of the minute roam though  Wish I had the isk to buy a good toon then I could just log/relog
I could spend a week or so getting into Drakes... for incursions... but that's alot of training and then do they even really take drakes into that?
Incursions sound like fun cause it's a group activity and I love the PVE also... but...
1) A newb drake will get taken?
2) Folks won't just pod you for crappy drake loot or lulz? |
Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 19:52:00 -
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I guess I just hit this stage where... Im in L3's, and I see no way out. L3's make about say 4 mill a mission, although honestly now that the rats are freaking pointing me, there is a chance I could pop my hurricane. So it's 4 mill a mission for risking an @70 mil boat with a 50 mil isk tank to back up the operation currently. Im not saying Im doing city scape parkur or scamming goons or anything but... it's still not safe boating, and while that's ok... it's one hell of a way to try and grind out of the hi-sec gehtto...
so there's trade but, honestly whats the chance of that working out... with no real introduction to scams, market pvp or smart trading... a job, and kids... errr... could possibly be more dangerous isk wise than missions...
there's incursions but really... no not really... entry price would be more than my net worth... although it sounds like a blast... no one is taking a hurricane into an incursion ... well unless it was pity/mercy/charity...
I guess this leaves 2 real options.
1) Throw myself at the mercy of a good corp, and pray it's a "good" corp.
2) Continue L3's till I can afford and run a BS in L4's and then reassess..
Im leaning towards 1... but I'd greatly appreciate any other options and would like to thank everyone for what Im sure is a helpfull thread not only to myself... but others... I hope... |
Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 20:16:00 -
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Lilliana Stelles wrote:
Are you looting and salvaging your missions? Some of missions against specific navys will drop tags that can be worth quite a bit. The average level 4 mission pays less than 10 mil in bounties... But specific missions, such as Enemies Abound, will drop 40+mil in tags, making it much more worth the risk and time. Not all missions are created equal.
Im in L3's...
I have access to (L4's) but can currently only fly a hurricane which is 50% of my net worth. So Im pulling about 4 mill average a mission with bounties, salvage, loot, and LP sales... 10 mil is very rare for a L3 but I've got close before. 4 years ago... when I first started my main... I could run L4's with my hands behind my back... sure blockade got spicy but... I usually just skipped it. Given I've come out of some L3's in structure recently and been pointed... Im really not so game to try out L4's untill I got another boat space worthy...
Honestly, I was grinding quietly back to L4's till I got pointed in a L3... at which point I realized there's the off chance these dumb npc bastages could pop my boat. It was there and then... I knew it was time to take it to the forums, cause... I really can't afford to lose my L3 boat to NPC's... /facepalm
What a way to end your eve career... One thing you get suicide ganked or something... whole different kind of skulling off to /unsub if a Gurista pops u're last boat.
Is it mandatory to have rigs and subsystems now a days? That's all greek to me... so I've ignored it... maybe that's my problem. I thought that stuff was optional... tweeking kind of stuff... maybe Im wrong and it makes all the difference in missions... /shrug
I run an AC boat which I've heard is harder in missions... so Im training artie up... although I hate artie... I will try it... cause if it's safer then maybe I can try L4's again... although the mantra seems to be not to ever... ever... enter an L4 in anything but a Drake or a Raven... which is pretty damn depressing... and just scarry enough to keep me at bay untill I at least have enough to replace my current ship twice...
Also ... maybe Im just paranoid but, if someone does come to finish me off in a mission in some way I haven't figured out yet... I feel alot more comfortable with AC and 10 seconds till barage... fitting artie is going to feel like missioning in my salvage boat, defenseless.. I guess if someone decides my ticket is up it won't matter anyway...
do the tutorials hand out a billion isk or something... maybe since I never had those... back when I started that's what went wrong.. |
Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.20 20:34:00 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:In case people haven't linked it already, you will probably get a lot of use out of Mission Reports, which lists mission triggers and useful bits of information about the rats you're up against, including which ones web and scram. A couple other questions came to mind. What's your fit like? Are you shield or armor-tanking in your Hurricane? (If you're shield-tanking you might consider using a Cyclone, which has a bonus to the effectiveness of shield boosters.)
Out of desperation... I've given out more info on a public eve forum than I feel comfortable with even thou I've used an alt to discuss this stuff... and added some misinformation as an attempt at some kind of security... Im sure I'd be easy to pop for funzies to anyone with some probes and spare isk... for lulz...
please don't be offended I am however... in a precarious position and attempting as hard as I can... to avoid /unsub or plex sales.
However... dysotopia is dysotopian... and I feel fairly dysotopied... lol...
so thanks for any advice... :D
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Tevar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.06.21 13:37:00 -
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DeBingJos wrote:However if you already get mad about a frig pointing you in a mission I have a hard time imagining you are going to like pvp.
Naw... dying to players is fine, honerable and sporting. If I had issue with that... heh... I'd certainly not be playing eve.
Dying to a NPC in a L3... that would ruffle me, especially as I've stated ... Im not exactly Space Captin Rockafeller.
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