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General Killah
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Posted - 2004.11.16 19:50:00 -
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They are in the southern war on the side of FA/FIX/QDF and hold the system g-q almost constantly, I used to be director of public relations for them but I am wondering from any enemies who have faught them, are they pretty good enemies?
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General Killah
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Posted - 2004.11.16 19:50:00 -
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They are in the southern war on the side of FA/FIX/QDF and hold the system g-q almost constantly, I used to be director of public relations for them but I am wondering from any enemies who have faught them, are they pretty good enemies?
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Rover Vitesse
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Posted - 2004.11.16 20:17:00 -
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uhm, honestly?
I'll let the stats speak for themselves, in the last 2 days we have killed 20 BS, plus assorted cruisers/frigates/pods, for the loss of 1 BS, 2 cruisers and 4 frigates.
That answer your question?
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Rover Vitesse
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Posted - 2004.11.16 20:17:00 -
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uhm, honestly?
I'll let the stats speak for themselves, in the last 2 days we have killed 20 BS, plus assorted cruisers/frigates/pods, for the loss of 1 BS, 2 cruisers and 4 frigates.
That answer your question?
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2004.11.16 22:24:00 -
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Your information about GQ and the surrounding region is, to say it loosely, largely exagerated. GQ has been under almost constant DSMA control.
They might need to give you your job back.
Fox
"If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2004.11.16 22:24:00 -
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Your information about GQ and the surrounding region is, to say it loosely, largely exagerated. GQ has been under almost constant DSMA control.
They might need to give you your job back.
Fox
"If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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Lotvog
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Posted - 2004.11.17 01:36:00 -
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Indeed Killah, your intelligence seems to be out of date. The Factory station in G-Q has constantly been swapping hands, with the DSMA and its allies generally having the upper hand. When the Orion Federation and Silent Shadow Alliance are left to fend for themselves, the DSMA and its allies have unquestionably dominated, in a wide variety of engagements; with FA fleet help, they've managed to stave us off, however in recent battles the situation has been largely in our favour. Congratulations to all the DSMA pilots and their allies, keep up the good work.
-Vog
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Lotvog
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Posted - 2004.11.17 01:36:00 -
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Indeed Killah, your intelligence seems to be out of date. The Factory station in G-Q has constantly been swapping hands, with the DSMA and its allies generally having the upper hand. When the Orion Federation and Silent Shadow Alliance are left to fend for themselves, the DSMA and its allies have unquestionably dominated, in a wide variety of engagements; with FA fleet help, they've managed to stave us off, however in recent battles the situation has been largely in our favour. Congratulations to all the DSMA pilots and their allies, keep up the good work.
-Vog
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General Killah
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Posted - 2004.11.17 04:51:00 -
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I really do need to get my job back, should go back as a War General, I bet I could at least double their kill rates.
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General Killah
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Posted - 2004.11.17 04:51:00 -
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I really do need to get my job back, should go back as a War General, I bet I could at least double their kill rates.
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Meilani ath'Eusserye
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Posted - 2004.11.17 08:07:00 -
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 Originally by: General Killah
I really do need to get my job back, should go back as a War General, I bet I could at least double their kill rates.
Double? Unless you can increase their kill ratio by over 2000%, I really wouldn't bother 
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Meilani ath'Eusserye
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Posted - 2004.11.17 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: General Killah
I really do need to get my job back, should go back as a War General, I bet I could at least double their kill rates.
Double? Unless you can increase their kill ratio by over 2000%, I really wouldn't bother
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Hquesinovium
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Posted - 2004.11.17 19:10:00 -
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Orion Who 
Keep up the fire DSMA
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I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is the victory over self.
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Hquesinovium
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Posted - 2004.11.17 19:10:00 -
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Orion Who
Keep up the fire DSMA
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I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is the victory over self.
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pcgamereve
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Posted - 2004.11.19 08:48:00 -
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"I'll let the stats speak for themselves, in the last 2 days we have killed 20 BS, plus assorted cruisers/frigates/pods, for the loss of 1 BS, 2 cruisers and 4 frigates."
are you trying to make yourseif look good? we never had 20 BSs down there, and stop this Topic its just a smack taik bomb ready to blow.
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pcgamereve
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Posted - 2004.11.19 08:48:00 -
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"I'll let the stats speak for themselves, in the last 2 days we have killed 20 BS, plus assorted cruisers/frigates/pods, for the loss of 1 BS, 2 cruisers and 4 frigates."
are you trying to make yourseif look good? we never had 20 BSs down there, and stop this Topic its just a smack taik bomb ready to blow.
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dj lightning
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:13:00 -
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yes over 20 bs convo me ingame if u want the kill mails time and dates
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dj lightning
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Posted - 2004.11.19 11:13:00 -
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yes over 20 bs convo me ingame if u want the kill mails time and dates
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Galk
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Posted - 2004.11.19 14:37:00 -
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My understanding that only 15 of so orion pilots actualy defend this place.
Maybe thats your problem.
0.0 takes commitment, forget the loses, just like it apears the dsma guys seem to have done.
Ask yourselfs, do you realy want to be there.
My opinion, nobody elses, it apears the dsma guys want it more.
You have to show commitment to the cause, or you realy don't belong there.
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Galk
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Posted - 2004.11.19 14:37:00 -
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My understanding that only 15 of so orion pilots actualy defend this place.
Maybe thats your problem.
0.0 takes commitment, forget the loses, just like it apears the dsma guys seem to have done.
Ask yourselfs, do you realy want to be there.
My opinion, nobody elses, it apears the dsma guys want it more.
You have to show commitment to the cause, or you realy don't belong there.
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Tweety Bird
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Posted - 2004.11.19 18:26:00 -
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yup dsma is determent to stay  so orion do you whant it bad enuff  we do!!
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Tweety Bird
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Posted - 2004.11.19 18:26:00 -
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yup dsma is determent to stay so orion do you whant it bad enuff we do!!
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2004.11.19 21:20:00 -
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I think I will have to come down with the boys and collect that nox I have in t-par.
" Stay Frosty "
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2004.11.19 21:20:00 -
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I think I will have to come down with the boys and collect that nox I have in t-par.
" Stay Frosty "
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General Killah
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Posted - 2004.11.20 02:47:00 -
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Actually this wasn't meant for smack or anything, all I want is non-biased information...just curious how things are going down there with some of my old friends.
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General Killah
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Posted - 2004.11.20 02:47:00 -
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Actually this wasn't meant for smack or anything, all I want is non-biased information...just curious how things are going down there with some of my old friends.
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kuam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:00:00 -
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dsma i hear are fully commited to safe spotting when any more than 5 enemy ships are at least 6 jumps away
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kuam
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Posted - 2004.11.21 18:00:00 -
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dsma i hear are fully commited to safe spotting when any more than 5 enemy ships are at least 6 jumps away
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: kuam
dsma i hear are fully commited to safe spotting when any more than 5 enemy ships are at least 6 jumps away
And yet somehow we own the GQ station 23/7. Imagine that. Damn I'm good.
Fox
"If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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FoxHunt
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Posted - 2004.11.21 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: kuam
dsma i hear are fully commited to safe spotting when any more than 5 enemy ships are at least 6 jumps away
And yet somehow we own the GQ station 23/7. Imagine that. Damn I'm good.
Fox
"If laughter truly is the best medicine, then the story you told me just cleared up my Hepatitis."
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Fojar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:27:00 -
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Well to be brutally honest, Orion, are pretty poor PvPer's with few excpetions. Only when her bigger allies appear do they actually fight and not safe spot or when they out number us 3-1.
I figure this may upset some of the orion guys, or make FA/QDF Rally to the cause of making orion look good, but it's true.
Who else goes afk at stargates in a warzone??
(and no they weren't traps)
But Now that Fuzzy Kittens have left the number seem to be dropping rapidly, until a FA blob arrives that is.
So to answer your question Orion are not good enemies, in the fact that they hardly fight. And when they do fight, they Smack in local (Note i know some of our guys do also).
I think that's me done.....
Fojar
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Fojar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:27:00 -
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Well to be brutally honest, Orion, are pretty poor PvPer's with few excpetions. Only when her bigger allies appear do they actually fight and not safe spot or when they out number us 3-1.
I figure this may upset some of the orion guys, or make FA/QDF Rally to the cause of making orion look good, but it's true.
Who else goes afk at stargates in a warzone??
(and no they weren't traps)
But Now that Fuzzy Kittens have left the number seem to be dropping rapidly, until a FA blob arrives that is.
So to answer your question Orion are not good enemies, in the fact that they hardly fight. And when they do fight, they Smack in local (Note i know some of our guys do also).
I think that's me done.....
Fojar
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Fojar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:35:00 -
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oh and btw, who are the orion fed?
Where the hell did you guys come from?
I remember you appeared about 2 weeks before the war, but no-one seems to know much about you? Just that your the enemy....
Can you clear this up? or direct me to your website, so i can find out myself.
kthxbye.
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Fojar
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Posted - 2004.11.22 12:35:00 -
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oh and btw, who are the orion fed?
Where the hell did you guys come from?
I remember you appeared about 2 weeks before the war, but no-one seems to know much about you? Just that your the enemy....
Can you clear this up? or direct me to your website, so i can find out myself.
kthxbye.
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:00:00 -
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Orion Fed is Ark-Fed. They changed their name again...
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:00:00 -
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Orion Fed is Ark-Fed. They changed their name again...
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:01:00 -
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And yes. OF do not belong in PB.
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2004.11.22 15:01:00 -
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And yes. OF do not belong in PB.
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Jona Mae
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Posted - 2004.11.24 00:49:00 -
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It is really wonderfull to know the true story for once. Gives you an idea on how twisted and incomplete all these posts in threads like this one are. 
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Jona Mae
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Posted - 2004.11.24 00:49:00 -
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It is really wonderfull to know the true story for once. Gives you an idea on how twisted and incomplete all these posts in threads like this one are.
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Fojar
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Posted - 2004.11.24 09:55:00 -
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Correct me if i'm wrong jona but were'nt you on CFS's Side at first?
I seem to remember you in a fleet i was in once???
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Fojar
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Posted - 2004.11.24 09:55:00 -
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Correct me if i'm wrong jona but were'nt you on CFS's Side at first?
I seem to remember you in a fleet i was in once???
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Droopsy
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Posted - 2004.11.26 18:57:00 -
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Yup Jona was in our fleet once, we even used her TS. Good ol' days.
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Droopsy
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Posted - 2004.11.26 18:57:00 -
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Yup Jona was in our fleet once, we even used her TS. Good ol' days.
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G'ulSera
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Posted - 2004.11.28 17:34:00 -
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My siggy here too :p
*For Blood and Honour*
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G'ulSera
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Posted - 2004.11.28 17:34:00 -
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My siggy here too :p
*For Blood and Honour*
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Jona Mae
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Posted - 2004.12.02 18:00:00 -
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I always was and always will be on the side of Period Basis.
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Jona Mae
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Posted - 2004.12.02 18:00:00 -
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I always was and always will be on the side of Period Basis.
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Phyre
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Posted - 2004.12.02 22:00:00 -
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What do you mean by "used to be", guys?
I've been out of the game, and internet, for a month, but will be back Dec. 7th.
Jona, what happened? Do you fight on FA's side?
Please say you are not an enemy of me or those I fight with :(
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Phyre
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Posted - 2004.12.02 22:00:00 -
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What do you mean by "used to be", guys?
I've been out of the game, and internet, for a month, but will be back Dec. 7th.
Jona, what happened? Do you fight on FA's side?
Please say you are not an enemy of me or those I fight with :(
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G'ulSera
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Posted - 2004.12.03 02:44:00 -
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Phyre sorry to say that she has joined our enemies.... she's fighting on FA side now...
*For Blood and Honour*
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G'ulSera
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Posted - 2004.12.03 02:44:00 -
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Phyre sorry to say that she has joined our enemies.... she's fighting on FA side now...
*For Blood and Honour*
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2004.12.03 19:36:00 -
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I'll tell you how Orion Fed started...as I was one of the founders, before they decided to screw me over. I was the head of a small alliance named DSA (small, but larger than Ark Fed...not to be confused with DSMA) I approached Ark Fed with the idea of merging...he insisted we join Ark Fed, I insisted he join DSA...in the end we formed a new alliance named Orion Federation (the name was picked off of a vote, I personally wasn't too fond of it). As a member of the council, we worked up several deals, one of which would allow us the opportunity to take a region, but only at the cost of a NAP with CA. Arkflyer, fool that he is, wanted to attack SA (still makes me laugh to this day). Myself and one other councillor convinced the others that it would be wiser to attack X/IF. In the end, the Arkflyer, Conchita, and Viper68 decided to back out on their word, and I and one other councillor left (along with all of the corps that I brought in). The issue was on the expulsion of a member corp. He violated the terms of the agreement and should have been expelled...they refused to follow the agreement. A council without honor was no good to me, so I left and did everything possible to screw them over as they had me (I'll be honest). FA, watch out...they'll screw you over as quickly as they did me. And anyone who sees these guys...they are n00bs, chances are they'll die easily...so take the shot and send me the kill mail so I too can enjoy it 
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2004.12.03 19:36:00 -
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I'll tell you how Orion Fed started...as I was one of the founders, before they decided to screw me over. I was the head of a small alliance named DSA (small, but larger than Ark Fed...not to be confused with DSMA) I approached Ark Fed with the idea of merging...he insisted we join Ark Fed, I insisted he join DSA...in the end we formed a new alliance named Orion Federation (the name was picked off of a vote, I personally wasn't too fond of it). As a member of the council, we worked up several deals, one of which would allow us the opportunity to take a region, but only at the cost of a NAP with CA. Arkflyer, fool that he is, wanted to attack SA (still makes me laugh to this day). Myself and one other councillor convinced the others that it would be wiser to attack X/IF. In the end, the Arkflyer, Conchita, and Viper68 decided to back out on their word, and I and one other councillor left (along with all of the corps that I brought in). The issue was on the expulsion of a member corp. He violated the terms of the agreement and should have been expelled...they refused to follow the agreement. A council without honor was no good to me, so I left and did everything possible to screw them over as they had me (I'll be honest). FA, watch out...they'll screw you over as quickly as they did me. And anyone who sees these guys...they are n00bs, chances are they'll die easily...so take the shot and send me the kill mail so I too can enjoy it
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2004.12.03 20:29:00 -
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Orion have backstabbed ufs just as much as fix did.
FA control people do not make friends, orion is just another minion like cfs was, like norad is, like fix is. |
OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2004.12.03 20:29:00 -
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Orion have backstabbed ufs just as much as fix did.
FA control people do not make friends, orion is just another minion like cfs was, like norad is, like fix is. |
pcgamereve
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Posted - 2004.12.05 12:21:00 -
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"Orion have backstabbed ufs just as much as fix did"
ummm so when you attacked us thats backstabbing? 
"I'll tell you how Orion Fed started...as I was one of the founders, before they decided to screw me over."
so when you asked a exmOo friend to kill two members of orion that ****ed you off thats screwing you over?
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pcgamereve
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Posted - 2004.12.05 12:21:00 -
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"Orion have backstabbed ufs just as much as fix did"
ummm so when you attacked us thats backstabbing?
"I'll tell you how Orion Fed started...as I was one of the founders, before they decided to screw me over."
so when you asked a exmOo friend to kill two members of orion that ****ed you off thats screwing you over?
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2004.12.05 13:55:00 -
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nobody attacked FIX, FIX attacked the ufs fleet, avernus admitted that himself |
OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2004.12.05 13:55:00 -
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nobody attacked FIX, FIX attacked the ufs fleet, avernus admitted that himself |
S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.12.05 18:53:00 -
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nobody attacked FIX, FIX attacked the ufs fleet, avernus admitted that himself
Now you're spreading lies and I have to say something. Why can't everyone just tell the truth and let me read these silly threads instead of having to post to them?
One week prior to the fleet battle you refer to DSMA (a UFS organization) attacked a station owned by FIX and overthrew it. FIX did not stop DSMA in an attempt to try and avoid conflict. When the DSMA pilot was approached about it he was VERY rude and unwilling to work. This station (because it had factories) resulted in a bug losing two FIX Apocs that were being built.
FIX did not respond but began to question UFS about the incident.
THAT was the first attack in the conflict.
It's also worth noting that the fleet conflict you refer to took place in a FIX system, where a FIX fleet had been stationary for some time. The attacking military is always the one that isn't at home.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.12.05 18:53:00 -
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nobody attacked FIX, FIX attacked the ufs fleet, avernus admitted that himself
Now you're spreading lies and I have to say something. Why can't everyone just tell the truth and let me read these silly threads instead of having to post to them?
One week prior to the fleet battle you refer to DSMA (a UFS organization) attacked a station owned by FIX and overthrew it. FIX did not stop DSMA in an attempt to try and avoid conflict. When the DSMA pilot was approached about it he was VERY rude and unwilling to work. This station (because it had factories) resulted in a bug losing two FIX Apocs that were being built.
FIX did not respond but began to question UFS about the incident.
THAT was the first attack in the conflict.
It's also worth noting that the fleet conflict you refer to took place in a FIX system, where a FIX fleet had been stationary for some time. The attacking military is always the one that isn't at home.
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Zetar Nightwalker
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Posted - 2004.12.05 21:57:00 -
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To the People of EVE,
In response to S3VYNÆs lie about UFS pilots attacking a FIX station before this conflict started I Pull out the following:
Fix Chronicles Chapter 1 Revolution.
"On October of the year 2004, the Coalition of Free Stars executed a plan to take control of Fountain stations in Delve and Period Basis".
NO mention of a CFS or DSMA attack on any station. No hostile action is reported against the Civilian Occupants of Querious known as the QDF.
"The CFS deceived top ranking officials of the Querious Defense force, claiming no such plan existed".
This part is debatable plus but since Querious was CFS space and the QDF were nothing more than citizens living in it they didnÆt have to tell you a thing. Also donÆt forget the QDF was closely allied with BA with was and still is a Fountain Alliance Member, which were not attacked., so telling you every detail of an action against FA would be nothing but stupid.
ôTo Protect Querious from the advancing CFS fleet, the QDF blockade 7GCD-P, intercepting several CFS ships en route to attack Fountain stations".
You admit here to attacking a force that was not threatening you, you ambushed a forced headed for Delve and Period Basis not Querious.
ôThe CFS attacks on Fountain Forced the revelation of a long anticipated declaration. The QDF were claiming Querious and establishing the FIX allianceö.
Long anticipated declaration shows planning for such an act against the CFS. Only the conflict against Fountain provided you with an opportunity to take what you wanted.
ôThe response of the CFSà
War.
CFS Fleets enter FIX space, attacking station in H7V and 9GCö.
Well you attack and gank a fleet of our then close off and claim a region of the CFS. What did you expect us to say oh go ahead and block us of from supplies in empire- what are you smoking.
The above is all quoted from the fix chronicles and my response to them. I donÆt flame I only speak the truth. You may try to say your actions were in defense but it is clear your actions were nothing more than advantage of a conflict to gain what you really wanted, Querious.
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Zetar Nightwalker
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Posted - 2004.12.05 21:57:00 -
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To the People of EVE,
In response to S3VYNÆs lie about UFS pilots attacking a FIX station before this conflict started I Pull out the following:
Fix Chronicles Chapter 1 Revolution.
"On October of the year 2004, the Coalition of Free Stars executed a plan to take control of Fountain stations in Delve and Period Basis".
NO mention of a CFS or DSMA attack on any station. No hostile action is reported against the Civilian Occupants of Querious known as the QDF.
"The CFS deceived top ranking officials of the Querious Defense force, claiming no such plan existed".
This part is debatable plus but since Querious was CFS space and the QDF were nothing more than citizens living in it they didnÆt have to tell you a thing. Also donÆt forget the QDF was closely allied with BA with was and still is a Fountain Alliance Member, which were not attacked., so telling you every detail of an action against FA would be nothing but stupid.
ôTo Protect Querious from the advancing CFS fleet, the QDF blockade 7GCD-P, intercepting several CFS ships en route to attack Fountain stations".
You admit here to attacking a force that was not threatening you, you ambushed a forced headed for Delve and Period Basis not Querious.
ôThe CFS attacks on Fountain Forced the revelation of a long anticipated declaration. The QDF were claiming Querious and establishing the FIX allianceö.
Long anticipated declaration shows planning for such an act against the CFS. Only the conflict against Fountain provided you with an opportunity to take what you wanted.
ôThe response of the CFSà
War.
CFS Fleets enter FIX space, attacking station in H7V and 9GCö.
Well you attack and gank a fleet of our then close off and claim a region of the CFS. What did you expect us to say oh go ahead and block us of from supplies in empire- what are you smoking.
The above is all quoted from the fix chronicles and my response to them. I donÆt flame I only speak the truth. You may try to say your actions were in defense but it is clear your actions were nothing more than advantage of a conflict to gain what you really wanted, Querious.
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2004.12.05 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN
Quote:
nobody attacked FIX, FIX attacked the ufs fleet, avernus admitted that himself
Now you're spreading lies and I have to say something. Why can't everyone just tell the truth and let me read these silly threads instead of having to post to them?
One week prior to the fleet battle you refer to DSMA (a UFS organization) attacked a station owned by FIX and overthrew it. FIX did not stop DSMA in an attempt to try and avoid conflict. When the DSMA pilot was approached about it he was VERY rude and unwilling to work. This station (because it had factories) resulted in a bug losing two FIX Apocs that were being built.
FIX did not respond but began to question UFS about the incident.
THAT was the first attack in the conflict.
It's also worth noting that the fleet conflict you refer to took place in a FIX system, where a FIX fleet had been stationary for some time. The attacking military is always the one that isn't at home.
Wasnt a 'FIX system', because u hadnt declared independance at this point. it was all CFS still. so that is blatent lying s3vyn |
OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2004.12.05 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: S3VYN
Quote:
nobody attacked FIX, FIX attacked the ufs fleet, avernus admitted that himself
Now you're spreading lies and I have to say something. Why can't everyone just tell the truth and let me read these silly threads instead of having to post to them?
One week prior to the fleet battle you refer to DSMA (a UFS organization) attacked a station owned by FIX and overthrew it. FIX did not stop DSMA in an attempt to try and avoid conflict. When the DSMA pilot was approached about it he was VERY rude and unwilling to work. This station (because it had factories) resulted in a bug losing two FIX Apocs that were being built.
FIX did not respond but began to question UFS about the incident.
THAT was the first attack in the conflict.
It's also worth noting that the fleet conflict you refer to took place in a FIX system, where a FIX fleet had been stationary for some time. The attacking military is always the one that isn't at home.
Wasnt a 'FIX system', because u hadnt declared independance at this point. it was all CFS still. so that is blatent lying s3vyn |
MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.12.05 22:08:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Zetar Nightwalker
To the People of EVE,
In response to S3VYNÆs lie about UFS pilots attacking a FIX station before this conflict started I Pull out the following:
Fix Chronicles Chapter 1 Revolution.
"On October of the year 2004, the Coalition of Free Stars executed a plan to take control of Fountain stations in Delve and Period Basis".
NO mention of a CFS or DSMA attack on any station. No hostile action is reported against the Civilian Occupants of Querious known as the QDF.
"The CFS deceived top ranking officials of the Querious Defense force, claiming no such plan existed".
This part is debatable plus but since Querious was CFS space and the QDF were nothing more than citizens living in it they didnÆt have to tell you a thing. Also donÆt forget the QDF was closely allied with BA with was and still is a Fountain Alliance Member, which were not attacked., so telling you every detail of an action against FA would be nothing but stupid.
ôTo Protect Querious from the advancing CFS fleet, the QDF blockade 7GCD-P, intercepting several CFS ships en route to attack Fountain stations".
You admit here to attacking a force that was not threatening you, you ambushed a forced headed for Delve and Period Basis not Querious.
ôThe CFS attacks on Fountain Forced the revelation of a long anticipated declaration. The QDF were claiming Querious and establishing the FIX allianceö.
Long anticipated declaration shows planning for such an act against the CFS. Only the conflict against Fountain provided you with an opportunity to take what you wanted.
ôThe response of the CFSà
War.
CFS Fleets enter FIX space, attacking station in H7V and 9GCö.
Well you attack and gank a fleet of our then close off and claim a region of the CFS. What did you expect us to say oh go ahead and block us of from supplies in empire- what are you smoking.
The above is all quoted from the fix chronicles and my response to them. I donÆt flame I only speak the truth. You may try to say your actions were in defense but it is clear your actions were nothing more than advantage of a conflict to gain what you really wanted, Querious.
i think zetar just pwned u s3vyn. and i had no part in it
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.12.05 22:08:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Zetar Nightwalker
To the People of EVE,
In response to S3VYNÆs lie about UFS pilots attacking a FIX station before this conflict started I Pull out the following:
Fix Chronicles Chapter 1 Revolution.
"On October of the year 2004, the Coalition of Free Stars executed a plan to take control of Fountain stations in Delve and Period Basis".
NO mention of a CFS or DSMA attack on any station. No hostile action is reported against the Civilian Occupants of Querious known as the QDF.
"The CFS deceived top ranking officials of the Querious Defense force, claiming no such plan existed".
This part is debatable plus but since Querious was CFS space and the QDF were nothing more than citizens living in it they didnÆt have to tell you a thing. Also donÆt forget the QDF was closely allied with BA with was and still is a Fountain Alliance Member, which were not attacked., so telling you every detail of an action against FA would be nothing but stupid.
ôTo Protect Querious from the advancing CFS fleet, the QDF blockade 7GCD-P, intercepting several CFS ships en route to attack Fountain stations".
You admit here to attacking a force that was not threatening you, you ambushed a forced headed for Delve and Period Basis not Querious.
ôThe CFS attacks on Fountain Forced the revelation of a long anticipated declaration. The QDF were claiming Querious and establishing the FIX allianceö.
Long anticipated declaration shows planning for such an act against the CFS. Only the conflict against Fountain provided you with an opportunity to take what you wanted.
ôThe response of the CFSà
War.
CFS Fleets enter FIX space, attacking station in H7V and 9GCö.
Well you attack and gank a fleet of our then close off and claim a region of the CFS. What did you expect us to say oh go ahead and block us of from supplies in empire- what are you smoking.
The above is all quoted from the fix chronicles and my response to them. I donÆt flame I only speak the truth. You may try to say your actions were in defense but it is clear your actions were nothing more than advantage of a conflict to gain what you really wanted, Querious.
i think zetar just pwned u s3vyn. and i had no part in it
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Avernus
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Posted - 2004.12.05 23:54:00 -
[69]
Hold the pwnage Max, I'm stepping in here. 
Seems some people have no clue... can I fix that? Obviously.
First up: Quote:
nobody attacked FIX, FIX attacked the ufs fleet, avernus admitted that himself
and Quote:
ôTo Protect Querious from the advancing CFS fleet, the QDF blockade 7GCD-P, intercepting several CFS ships en route to attack Fountain stations".
You admit here to attacking a force that was not threatening you, you ambushed a forced headed for Delve and Period Basis not Querious.
Whoa there bud! I'll let you show me where I said that. The QDF fleet was in a triangle system, where the UFS fleet had the option of engaging or bypassing them. It's a very simple way to gauge one's intentions. UFS absolutely knew FIX was there... lots of frigate scouts. UFS fleet warped in, the UFS scouts turned on MWD's and made haste to close in on the gate. That's more than hostile enough to justify shooting you. Ambush? *cough* We let you see the entire composition of our fleet with those scouts and UFS had considerable time to make its choice
Next up: Zetar
Quote:
In response to S3VYNÆs lie about UFS pilots attacking a FIX station before this conflict started I Pull out the following:
Fix Chronicles Chapter 1 Revolution.
"On October of the year 2004, the Coalition of Free Stars executed a plan to take control of Fountain stations in Delve and Period Basis".
NO mention of a CFS or DSMA attack on any station. No hostile action is reported against the Civilian Occupants of Querious known as the QDF.
No mention, because we didn't go public with it at the time and when the dust settled, that hiccup was peanuts in comparison to what had just occured. Don't believe it happened? Talk to Senior Member Sam if you won't take my word for it. He led the DSMA fleet in the attack on the H74 station. Myself and Nez Perces contacted him very shortly afterward to express our displeasure. Worthy Chronicle material? Good video footage? No, not really.
Finally
Quote:
ôThe CFS attacks on Fountain Forced the revelation of a long anticipated declaration. The QDF were claiming Querious and establishing the FIX allianceö.
Long anticipated declaration shows planning for such an act against the CFS. Only the conflict against Fountain provided you with an opportunity to take what you wanted.
The long anticipated declaration was making FIX public, people had wanted an alliance for months, and we were going all out to get it up and running. FIX was born premature as a result of the war... don't believe me again? Ask one of the numberous applicant corps how long they have had to wait to get a shot at becoming members, because we were still getting our administation in order.
PS. If there is one thing about videos, its the fact that it's one guy making it, and he's not shooting for exacting details, he's out to make a cool video.
One last comment on my part, why are people still asking what happened and obsessing over this? Who really cares at this point? It's over, you've lost, it's done, finito. Only question that remains is what to do with the last of the diehards in PB.
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Avernus
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Posted - 2004.12.05 23:54:00 -
[70]
Hold the pwnage Max, I'm stepping in here.
Seems some people have no clue... can I fix that? Obviously.
First up: Quote:
nobody attacked FIX, FIX attacked the ufs fleet, avernus admitted that himself
and Quote:
ôTo Protect Querious from the advancing CFS fleet, the QDF blockade 7GCD-P, intercepting several CFS ships en route to attack Fountain stations".
You admit here to attacking a force that was not threatening you, you ambushed a forced headed for Delve and Period Basis not Querious.
Whoa there bud! I'll let you show me where I said that. The QDF fleet was in a triangle system, where the UFS fleet had the option of engaging or bypassing them. It's a very simple way to gauge one's intentions. UFS absolutely knew FIX was there... lots of frigate scouts. UFS fleet warped in, the UFS scouts turned on MWD's and made haste to close in on the gate. That's more than hostile enough to justify shooting you. Ambush? *cough* We let you see the entire composition of our fleet with those scouts and UFS had considerable time to make its choice
Next up: Zetar
Quote:
In response to S3VYNÆs lie about UFS pilots attacking a FIX station before this conflict started I Pull out the following:
Fix Chronicles Chapter 1 Revolution.
"On October of the year 2004, the Coalition of Free Stars executed a plan to take control of Fountain stations in Delve and Period Basis".
NO mention of a CFS or DSMA attack on any station. No hostile action is reported against the Civilian Occupants of Querious known as the QDF.
No mention, because we didn't go public with it at the time and when the dust settled, that hiccup was peanuts in comparison to what had just occured. Don't believe it happened? Talk to Senior Member Sam if you won't take my word for it. He led the DSMA fleet in the attack on the H74 station. Myself and Nez Perces contacted him very shortly afterward to express our displeasure. Worthy Chronicle material? Good video footage? No, not really.
Finally
Quote:
ôThe CFS attacks on Fountain Forced the revelation of a long anticipated declaration. The QDF were claiming Querious and establishing the FIX allianceö.
Long anticipated declaration shows planning for such an act against the CFS. Only the conflict against Fountain provided you with an opportunity to take what you wanted.
The long anticipated declaration was making FIX public, people had wanted an alliance for months, and we were going all out to get it up and running. FIX was born premature as a result of the war... don't believe me again? Ask one of the numberous applicant corps how long they have had to wait to get a shot at becoming members, because we were still getting our administation in order.
PS. If there is one thing about videos, its the fact that it's one guy making it, and he's not shooting for exacting details, he's out to make a cool video.
One last comment on my part, why are people still asking what happened and obsessing over this? Who really cares at this point? It's over, you've lost, it's done, finito. Only question that remains is what to do with the last of the diehards in PB.
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pcgamereve
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Posted - 2004.12.06 04:42:00 -
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"One last comment on my part, why are people still asking what happened and obsessing over this? Who really cares at this point? It's over, you've lost, it's done, finito. Only question that remains is what to do with the last of the diehards in PB."
hahahahaah i couldnt of said it better
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pcgamereve
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Posted - 2004.12.06 04:42:00 -
[72]
"One last comment on my part, why are people still asking what happened and obsessing over this? Who really cares at this point? It's over, you've lost, it's done, finito. Only question that remains is what to do with the last of the diehards in PB."
hahahahaah i couldnt of said it better
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.12.06 09:42:00 -
[73]
You couldnt have said it better, but other people can.
The war is not lost for a start. so shame on you!
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MAXSuicide
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Posted - 2004.12.06 09:42:00 -
[74]
You couldnt have said it better, but other people can.
The war is not lost for a start. so shame on you!
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Agorander
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Posted - 2004.12.06 09:56:00 -
[75]
Closing in on a gate in your travelpath with a MWD is hostile action now? 
Since FIX were not considered hostile, why should they take the way around you? If they had taken the other way you probably would have taken that as evidence of their negative stand against you and taken that as an excuse for an attack...
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Agorander
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Posted - 2004.12.06 09:56:00 -
[76]
Closing in on a gate in your travelpath with a MWD is hostile action now?
Since FIX were not considered hostile, why should they take the way around you? If they had taken the other way you probably would have taken that as evidence of their negative stand against you and taken that as an excuse for an attack...
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OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2004.12.06 10:21:00 -
[77]
FIX are digging a nice 6 foot deep hole for themselves. u need a big JCV to help? |
OMGWTFHAX
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Posted - 2004.12.06 10:21:00 -
[78]
FIX are digging a nice 6 foot deep hole for themselves. u need a big JCV to help? |
Kaeten
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Posted - 2004.12.06 10:36:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Kaeten on 06/12/2004 10:39:52
from the start. Querios was CFS space. So taking over the stations was ok. I heard FIX were planning to declare themself an alliance 2 weeks after CFS took back all stations, but had to hurry up due to conflict. Now, that means QDF were still civilians while CFS took back all stations. I think FIX should have Querios, they deserve it. But to lie about how it started is not what I like hearning.
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2004.12.06 10:36:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Kaeten on 06/12/2004 10:39:52
from the start. Querios was CFS space. So taking over the stations was ok. I heard FIX were planning to declare themself an alliance 2 weeks after CFS took back all stations, but had to hurry up due to conflict. Now, that means QDF were still civilians while CFS took back all stations. I think FIX should have Querios, they deserve it. But to lie about how it started is not what I like hearning.
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2004.12.06 12:51:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Kaeten
Edited by: Kaeten on 06/12/2004 10:39:52
from the start. Querios was CFS space. So taking over the stations was ok. I heard FIX were planning to declare themself an alliance 2 weeks after CFS took back all stations, but had to hurry up due to conflict. Now, that means QDF were still civilians while CFS took back all stations. I think FIX should have Querios, they deserve it. But to lie about how it started is not what I like hearning.
What lie? serious member sam brought a fleet of dsma ships to h74 1 week before CFS attacked the FA stations. Then on the friday of that week we find out about the plan by cfs to attack the fa stations, we ask cfs they say no, we say ok. then the sunday cfs attack the fa stations.
We made a choice after seeing dsma the week previous attack a station in querious and after cfs lieing to us we decided to side with FA as they had never made any aggressive actions towards us.
Thats it plain and simple.
" Stay Frosty "
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2004.12.06 12:51:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Kaeten
Edited by: Kaeten on 06/12/2004 10:39:52
from the start. Querios was CFS space. So taking over the stations was ok. I heard FIX were planning to declare themself an alliance 2 weeks after CFS took back all stations, but had to hurry up due to conflict. Now, that means QDF were still civilians while CFS took back all stations. I think FIX should have Querios, they deserve it. But to lie about how it started is not what I like hearning.
What lie? serious member sam brought a fleet of dsma ships to h74 1 week before CFS attacked the FA stations. Then on the friday of that week we find out about the plan by cfs to attack the fa stations, we ask cfs they say no, we say ok. then the sunday cfs attack the fa stations.
We made a choice after seeing dsma the week previous attack a station in querious and after cfs lieing to us we decided to side with FA as they had never made any aggressive actions towards us.
Thats it plain and simple.
" Stay Frosty "
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Xandalis
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Posted - 2004.12.06 14:07:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Scythmar
I'll tell you how Orion Fed started...as I was one of the founders, before they decided to screw me over. I was the head of a small alliance named DSA (small, but larger than Ark Fed...not to be confused with DSMA) I approached Ark Fed with the idea of merging...he insisted we join Ark Fed, I insisted he join DSA...in the end we formed a new alliance named Orion Federation (the name was picked off of a vote, I personally wasn't too fond of it). As a member of the council, we worked up several deals, one of which would allow us the opportunity to take a region, but only at the cost of a NAP with CA. Arkflyer, fool that he is, wanted to attack SA (still makes me laugh to this day). Myself and one other councillor convinced the others that it would be wiser to attack X/IF. In the end, the Arkflyer, Conchita, and Viper68 decided to back out on their word, and I and one other councillor left (along with all of the corps that I brought in). The issue was on the expulsion of a member corp. He violated the terms of the agreement and should have been expelled...they refused to follow the agreement. A council without honor was no good to me, so I left and did everything possible to screw them over as they had me (I'll be honest). FA, watch out...they'll screw you over as quickly as they did me. And anyone who sees these guys...they are n00bs, chances are they'll die easily...so take the shot and send me the kill mail so I too can enjoy it
Scythmar is about as credible as any other backstabbing, betraying, lying, cheating, and otherwise dishonorable person. Which is to say, not very. While some of these facts are correct: He was one of the founding influences to Orion. The rest is about as truthful as the idea that a noob can be flying a battleship in a week of playing the game without buying someone else's character.
Anyone who wants to think Scythmar is behing honest, go ahead and do some research on him. For instance, initiates a corp war against OMC, and then just up and leaves HIS corp? Don't trust him, don't beleive him, you'll find yourself with less enemies.
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Xandalis
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Posted - 2004.12.06 14:07:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Scythmar
I'll tell you how Orion Fed started...as I was one of the founders, before they decided to screw me over. I was the head of a small alliance named DSA (small, but larger than Ark Fed...not to be confused with DSMA) I approached Ark Fed with the idea of merging...he insisted we join Ark Fed, I insisted he join DSA...in the end we formed a new alliance named Orion Federation (the name was picked off of a vote, I personally wasn't too fond of it). As a member of the council, we worked up several deals, one of which would allow us the opportunity to take a region, but only at the cost of a NAP with CA. Arkflyer, fool that he is, wanted to attack SA (still makes me laugh to this day). Myself and one other councillor convinced the others that it would be wiser to attack X/IF. In the end, the Arkflyer, Conchita, and Viper68 decided to back out on their word, and I and one other councillor left (along with all of the corps that I brought in). The issue was on the expulsion of a member corp. He violated the terms of the agreement and should have been expelled...they refused to follow the agreement. A council without honor was no good to me, so I left and did everything possible to screw them over as they had me (I'll be honest). FA, watch out...they'll screw you over as quickly as they did me. And anyone who sees these guys...they are n00bs, chances are they'll die easily...so take the shot and send me the kill mail so I too can enjoy it
Scythmar is about as credible as any other backstabbing, betraying, lying, cheating, and otherwise dishonorable person. Which is to say, not very. While some of these facts are correct: He was one of the founding influences to Orion. The rest is about as truthful as the idea that a noob can be flying a battleship in a week of playing the game without buying someone else's character.
Anyone who wants to think Scythmar is behing honest, go ahead and do some research on him. For instance, initiates a corp war against OMC, and then just up and leaves HIS corp? Don't trust him, don't beleive him, you'll find yourself with less enemies.
Xandalis
CEO, Conclave of Shadows |
Scythmar
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Posted - 2004.12.06 18:52:00 -
[85]
Interesting...I don't even know who you are Xandalis...and yet you know so much about me...My corp disbanded because I was tired of the alliance BS and was going to go pirate...so that I could actually enjoy the game...Odd how pirates don't backstab near as often as non-pirates. Well, except for CA...I was intending to start a pvp corp (which is why I declared war on OMC) but instead went to DIE...so, I retracted the war (not like I was an arse like some and kept the war going with 1 man in the corp). Ask an Orion Fed Councilor about me...chances are they'll give you half a story, because they know they are liars, and you'll see it as that: 'half a story'.
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2004.12.06 18:52:00 -
[86]
Interesting...I don't even know who you are Xandalis...and yet you know so much about me...My corp disbanded because I was tired of the alliance BS and was going to go pirate...so that I could actually enjoy the game...Odd how pirates don't backstab near as often as non-pirates. Well, except for CA...I was intending to start a pvp corp (which is why I declared war on OMC) but instead went to DIE...so, I retracted the war (not like I was an arse like some and kept the war going with 1 man in the corp). Ask an Orion Fed Councilor about me...chances are they'll give you half a story, because they know they are liars, and you'll see it as that: 'half a story'.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.12.06 19:10:00 -
[87]
Edited by: S3VYN on 06/12/2004 19:16:16
I think it's funny that ANYONE thinks this discussion has ANY potential of "pwning" anyone.
What if... FIX said ah, you guys are right! We DID kick you back to empire over your own stupidity! D'oh! It WASN'T the reasons we always thought it was... It turns out, you were right ALL along that our reasons were stupid and yours were honorable! Who woulda thought?
That's YOUR best case scenario and it STILL entails you mining Veldspar in empire.
So what, exactly, are you hoping to accomplish? Why is any of this worthy of argument? I'd guess because you've lost everything else and this is the last shred of dignity you are holding onto? But then again, I don't pretend to know or understand your reasons... because I was on the winning side.
Some people are good losers, some people aren't. They're still losers though.
BTW - Your agent called, said you're losing loyalty points for spending your time on the forums instead of running missions.
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S3VYN
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Posted - 2004.12.06 19:10:00 -
[88]
Edited by: S3VYN on 06/12/2004 19:16:16
I think it's funny that ANYONE thinks this discussion has ANY potential of "pwning" anyone.
What if... FIX said ah, you guys are right! We DID kick you back to empire over your own stupidity! D'oh! It WASN'T the reasons we always thought it was... It turns out, you were right ALL along that our reasons were stupid and yours were honorable! Who woulda thought?
That's YOUR best case scenario and it STILL entails you mining Veldspar in empire.
So what, exactly, are you hoping to accomplish? Why is any of this worthy of argument? I'd guess because you've lost everything else and this is the last shred of dignity you are holding onto? But then again, I don't pretend to know or understand your reasons... because I was on the winning side.
Some people are good losers, some people aren't. They're still losers though.
BTW - Your agent called, said you're losing loyalty points for spending your time on the forums instead of running missions.
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2004.12.06 19:21:00 -
[89]
Hmm...looks like Orion Fed is moving...anyone know to where?
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Scythmar
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Posted - 2004.12.06 19:21:00 -
[90]
Hmm...looks like Orion Fed is moving...anyone know to where?
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pcgamereve
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Posted - 2004.12.10 11:01:00 -
[91]
"Ask an Orion Fed Councilor about me...chances are they'll give you half a story, because they know they are liars, and you'll see it as that: 'half a story'."
LMAO! this comeing from a backstabbing, betraying, lying, cheating, noob yes i said noob
oh and for 500mil ill tell you where we are
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pcgamereve
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Posted - 2004.12.10 11:01:00 -
[92]
"Ask an Orion Fed Councilor about me...chances are they'll give you half a story, because they know they are liars, and you'll see it as that: 'half a story'."
LMAO! this comeing from a backstabbing, betraying, lying, cheating, noob yes i said noob
oh and for 500mil ill tell you where we are
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