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Zethan Z
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.12.28 15:26:00 -
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I believe that the investors in said scam are entitled to a token repayment from Entity.
Said token repayment should be payed out in buttsex, no fees charged.
Disclaimer:
No condoms will be provided.
No security offered from STDs.
W(h)ine should be provided by the recieving party.
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jimmyjam
Gallente
Sinner Among Saints
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.12.28 15:27:00 -
[32]
I thought this was covered in the other post, nice waste of time.
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Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2009.12.28 15:54:00 -
[33]
 Originally by: ginlaan
"Zomg! ohnoes! WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!!1111
Well, what -did- I do? Let's see now...
- I agreed to handle the liquidation of Curzon's assets and execute payouts, after his departure.
- I did not receive his assets, hence I cannot fulfill my contract.
Of course I am completely aware of the social engineering value of association, even with not-so-small print saying there is no extra security offered by it.
To OP: nice troll though! "
To bad its not a troll and this was all premeditated making you just as much a scammer as curzon is. It really doesn't matter what you posted after the first post. Since your first post was the one that was going to do the damage and cement more investors for the two of you. Anything after that first post aside from admitting it was a scam really was irrelevant. People trusted your name and you screwed them simple. AS said we both know nothing will come of this you will still get your shiny's and what ever else you do. Just maybe though just maybe someone reads what you and curzon did and doesn't sell you that little piece of pixel pie stomping on your dreams to have the complete collection.
Omg, you're totally right and you're not actually just writing all this conspiracy stuff up because you're peeved about losing your ... what was it.. *checks curzon's IPO thread* ah yes, 1.3b?
Sure, I will admit to the fact my post in Curzon's thread can be interpreted by people as an endorsement. Which is fine, considering previous business I've conducted with Curzon, I had no reason to believe he would run off with the ISK, much like I have no reason to believe Chribba would scam someone.
I will also readily admit to being somewhat of a crook (See also: Megathron Federate Issue), but I'm terribly sorry, dear conspiracy theorists, there's no premeditation from my end in the current case.
Oh, poo, I just realised I'm feeding the trolls! BAD ENTITY! 
Anyway, please do keep bumping this thread, as even negative publicity is still publicity and nicely serves to increase public awareness of my collection quest \o/
Speaking of which, I need all of the outpost upgrades, especially now they got cheaper with Dominion, but they're still kind of pricey. Does anyone else think I should create an IPO to raise the money for those items? 
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Wayward Daughter
Swords of the Righteous
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:05:00 -
[34]
Justin Timberlake endorsed McDonald's
A lady burned her crotch with McDonalds's coffee
Ergo, Justin Timberlake is responsible for the lady's crotch burn
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:12:00 -
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"Omg, you're totally right and you're not actually just writing all this conspiracy stuff up because you're peeved about losing your ... what was it.. *checks curzon's IPO thread* ah yes, 1.3b?
Sure, I will admit to the fact my post in Curzon's thread can be interpreted by people as an endorsement. Which is fine, considering previous business I've conducted with Curzon, I had no reason to believe he would run off with the ISK, much like I have no reason to believe Chribba would scam someone.
I will also readily admit to being somewhat of a crook (See also: Megathron Federate Issue), but I'm terribly sorry, dear conspiracy theorists, there's no premeditation from my end in the current case.
Oh, poo, I just realised I'm feeding the trolls! BAD ENTITY! Embarassed
Anyway, please do keep bumping this thread, as even negative publicity is still publicity and nicely serves to increase public awareness of my collection quest \o/
Speaking of which, I need all of the outpost upgrades, especially now they got cheaper with Dominion, but they're still kind of pricey. Does anyone else think I should create an IPO to raise the money for those items?"
Ohh Entity your such a funny one with your wit and humor. Truth sucks no matter how you slice it doesn't it scammer?
My token sum was only 1.3 billion your right so with that small amount you know its got nothing to do with isk and more to do with you trying to walk away from your and curzon scam with no blame. You know it probably would of worked to if curzon used that little bit of social engineering skill he had and left your name out of the merry Christmas post. So please continue on with your wittiness and humor to deflect the fact that your now a known SCAMMER :-) If people still choose to do business with a know scammer so be it, as I said it will only take one person to hold back from doing anything with you and that is the simple goal.
As far as the IPO goes i would have no doubt it would sell out you silly magoo :-)
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Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan
So please continue on with your wittiness and humor to deflect the fact that your now a known SCAMMER
Fact? Really? Where is your evidence? I've yet to see it.
Sorry, but it takes a hell of a lot more than a post from an absolute no-name to label me.
Much love! ♥
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Tierie
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:21:00 -
[37]
why do you insult dear entity, he's awesome :(
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:33:00 -
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"Fact? Really? Where is your evidence? I've yet to see it.
Sorry, but it takes a hell of a lot more than a post from an absolute no-name to label me.
Much love! ♥"
Ohh my how shall i go on i am just a no name scrub of eve :-( Sort of like David and Goliath hmmm??
Where is your fact you were not involved?? Lets see there is none is there? Curzon words is about as useful as dirt now so he can say what he wants but you would need to come up with better that that one. My fact is simple You made a very concise post misleading people to invest with you and curzon. I got all the facts i need and i am sure others do too.
Little tip Entity don't try to belittle people with your so called power in eve how your the high and mighty and everyone else below you is a "no name" It really just makes you look like a heel. I bet the other "no names" of eve like hearing you say that as well.
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Shmeria
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:36:00 -
[39]
Originally by: ginlaan
Little tip Entity don't try to belittle people with your so called power in eve how your the high and mighty and everyone else below you is a "no name" It really just makes you look like a heel. I bet the other "no names" of eve like hearing you say that as well.
Not really. The real scammers/lowlifes in this games would prefer to be nobodys - makes earning the ISK easier :)
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Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan
Where is your fact you were not involved?? Lets see there is none is there?
Fortunately I live in a world where the defendant is innocent until proven guilty. I don't know how law works in your version of reality though, so apologies. I have no intention of showing up if you issue a court order though, I have better things to do, like polishing my beautiful set of Chelm tachyons.
Originally by: ginlaan
Little tip Entity don't try to belittle people with your so called power in eve how your the high and mighty and everyone else below you is a "no name" It really just makes you look like a heel. I bet the other "no names" of eve like hearing you say that as well.
Big tip ginlaan: Don't try to accuse people with non-existing evidence (Huh, 1 endorsement post, oh yeah, it's a bust!) and expect to be treated with respect.
Oh, and +1 troll points for trying the "ivory tower" against me. You're making good progress there, maybe in a few years time you can compete with the most fierce forum warriors of EVE.
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Tierie
Caldari
Duty.
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:47:00 -
[41]
Ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty"? The onus of evidence is on you. provide evidence or shut up.
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Taedrin
Gallente
The Green Cross
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:50:00 -
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Lawl, Entity could probably just as easily get people to DONATE ISK to him as he could scam people.
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Benedict Carol
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:01:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Tierie
Ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty"? The onus of evidence is on you. provide evidence or shut up.
You keep your "onus" away from the rest of us good capsuleers. This is a family show!  |
ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:09:00 -
[44]
"Fortunately I live in a world where the defendant is innocent until proven guilty. I don't know how law works in your version of reality though, so apologies. I have no intention of showing up if you issue a court order though, I have better things to do, like polishing my beautiful set of Chelm tachyons."
LOL ohh yea you must be forgetting this is internet spaceships and not the court of law proof,facts and such are more or less pixel generated here in this universe. So as it stands my accusation, proof, and fact still are relevant here in the universe of eve. If this was a blatant troll or just made up stuff i am sure CCP would of intervened by now and locked the thread. Maybe you can use that high and mighty power you have in eve and get it locked? We both know a "no name" such as my self could never hope to achieve that. Hmm there is some more the ivory defense :-) funny how it just comes out like that. A court order ??? Dude step back from the mic and take a deep breath.
"Big tip ginlaan: Don't try to accuse people with non-existing evidence (Huh, 1 endorsement post, oh yeah, it's a bust!) and expect to be treated with respect.
Oh, and +1 troll points for trying the "ivory tower" against me. You're making good progress there, maybe in a few years time you can compete with the most fierce forum warriors of EVE."
My evidence is clear and non fabricated. Being the Internets and all Entity people sort of have to come to there own conclusions on things i am not looking for anyone endorsement nor your respect or anyone Else's for that matter. In fact i am sure i never once asked for a line of people to post here endorsing this. No i am just using the tools available to me here to let people know your a scammer. How else would a "no name" achieve that Entity?
Please Entity we have not even begun to war yet. I will let you know when that happens since it seems you might need that bit of help.
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Benedict Carol
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:18:00 -
[45]
Originally by: ginlaan
LOL ohh yea you must be forgetting this is internet spaceships and not the court of law proof,facts and such are more or less pixel generated here in this universe. So as it stands my accusation, proof, and fact still are relevant here in the universe of eve.
Not really - none of us really care, so it's not all that relevant.
Quote:
Please Entity we have not even begun to war yet. I will let you know when that happens since it seems you might need that bit of help.
Please *do* let all of us know - I'll start making popcorn for the follow-up thread.
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Entity
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:25:00 -
[46]
Originally by: ginlaan
stuff
Ok, you win, I admit, I am a scammer: I posed as a perfectly normal heterosexual guy for many years before I finally came out. My apologies to all girls that have ever been interested in me. Please forgive me! 
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:32:00 -
[47]
"Ok, you win, I admit, I am a scammer: I posed as a perfectly normal heterosexual guy for many years before I finally came out. My apologies to all girls that have ever been interested in me. Please forgive me!"
What is this forum defense called? I cant quite put my finger on it but i am sure i have seen it before 
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Jonny 101
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:32:00 -
[48]
Entity is no scammer, i'll stake my reputation on it.
Signature needs to be more EVE related. Zymurgist |
Taedrin
Gallente
The Green Cross
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan
"Fortunately I live in a world where the defendant is innocent until proven guilty. I don't know how law works in your version of reality though, so apologies. I have no intention of showing up if you issue a court order though, I have better things to do, like polishing my beautiful set of Chelm tachyons."
LOL ohh yea you must be forgetting this is internet spaceships and not the court of law proof,facts and such are more or less pixel generated here in this universe. So as it stands my accusation, proof, and fact still are relevant here in the universe of eve. If this was a blatant troll or just made up stuff i am sure CCP would of intervened by now and locked the thread. Maybe you can use that high and mighty power you have in eve and get it locked? We both know a "no name" such as my self could never hope to achieve that. Hmm there is some more the ivory defense :-) funny how it just comes out like that. A court order ??? Dude step back from the mic and take a deep breath.
"Big tip ginlaan: Don't try to accuse people with non-existing evidence (Huh, 1 endorsement post, oh yeah, it's a bust!) and expect to be treated with respect.
Oh, and +1 troll points for trying the "ivory tower" against me. You're making good progress there, maybe in a few years time you can compete with the most fierce forum warriors of EVE."
My evidence is clear and non fabricated. Being the Internets and all Entity people sort of have to come to there own conclusions on things i am not looking for anyone endorsement nor your respect or anyone Else's for that matter. In fact i am sure i never once asked for a line of people to post here endorsing this. No i am just using the tools available to me here to let people know your a scammer. How else would a "no name" achieve that Entity?
Please Entity we have not even begun to war yet. I will let you know when that happens since it seems you might need that bit of help.
The only evidence you had was that Entity agreed to conduct the payouts after Curzon Dax quit EVE. He never offered his services as an auditor, nor did he make any claims that this was not a scam.
This reminds me about the Yih scam. Yih hired a couple well known auditors to give his scam some validity. These posts are located here and here. You will notice that both of these auditors never claimed that the IPO was not a scam. Cosmoray only said that the plan could work. VV even went so far as to say that Yih could only get a director to claim he was Yih's main, noting that it was impossible to actually prove that Yih and this director were actually the same person, and that the IPO would be carried out. He even declared that it would be up to the investor's own "gut" to determine if it was a good investment or not.
Entity made similar statements here and here. Notice that Entity confirmed that people would have to be trusting BOTH Curzon and Entity in order to get their investment back. He later noted that he would be unable to fulfill his obligations if Curzon didn't uphold his.
Entity may, or may not have known about the scam. However, Entity never claimed that it WAS NOT a scam. Nor did he claim to be offering any security to the IPO - savvy investors realized that this IPO all came down to whether they trusted Curzon first, and then Entity second. In fact, savvy investors may have realized that this was probably a scam, but they invested anyways "for the lulz", or because they wanted to be a part of EVE history.
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War Kitten
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan
"Ok, you win, I admit, I am a scammer: I posed as a perfectly normal heterosexual guy for many years before I finally came out. My apologies to all girls that have ever been interested in me. Please forgive me!"
What is this forum defense called? I cant quite put my finger on it but i am sure i have seen it before
Dude, seriously, learn to hit the little "Quote" link.
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Roguehalo
Caldari
Kimoto Innovations
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Posted - 2009.12.28 18:16:00 -
[51]
OMG shock horror probe......."absolute no-name" dares to criticise 'BIG NOISE'
Civilisation as we know it may end!!
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.28 20:01:00 -
[52]
Originally by: ginlaan
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamabulance tears..
0/
U mad?
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Turiel Demon
Minmatar
Celtic industries
The AsyIum
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Posted - 2009.12.28 20:52:00 -
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LEARN TO USE THE QUOTE BUTTON!
Anyways, closest you can come to saying entity was 'involved' in depriving people (including myself) of their isk is that he said that 'it looked like a good deal' which it did, though a highly suspicious one possibly.
How is he any different from the people who actually were tricked into putting in isk? He saw a good deal, and was going to be well paid for his service, had it gone through - he's now had that same trust broken as the investors themself and has had his reputation tarnished somewhat.
Meh, give it a rest.
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Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2009.12.28 20:57:00 -
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I have no idea what these people are talking about. But I bet it involves someone giving someone else their money, and getting mad when they don't get it back.
And they say all the tarded kiddies play WoW.
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.29 22:09:00 -
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"LEARN TO USE THE QUOTE BUTTON!"
I like to try and be personal on forum's so i quote the old fashion way. Aside from that it really seems to upset alot of you when the quote is not used:-)
You do bring a valid argument to the table on this and i have in fact thought of that myself. Problem is this whole thing went way to easy for the two of them not to be involved together. Curzon was spewing his name from the first post on. Entity is a smart guy lets not fool our selves here you dont get billions by being a idiot. Letting curzon do what you imply would make him a idiot and i don't see that.
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Tellenta
Gallente
Invicta.
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Posted - 2009.12.29 22:29:00 -
[56]
Originally by: ginlaan
I am a worthless idiot
Damn it!!!! learn how to use the quote button you worthless worm. Also please explain to me how Entity being labeled a scammer would change in any way shape or form what his reputation in game is. Which is 'a guy that collects stuff'. Beyond that as the benefactor but not executor of an IPO scam or whatever it was does not equate to blame. Stop emo raging and trying to destroy the reputation of a player who would not have any ill effects from attaining such a label you are just making yourself look foolish and childish. Unless you are just making a look at me thread in which case carry on I guess.
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Tempy Rawry
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Posted - 2009.12.29 23:06:00 -
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> I like to try and be personal on forum's so i quote the old fashion way.
ORLY now?
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.29 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tempy Rawry
> I like to try and be personal on forum's so i quote the old fashion way.
ORLY now?
Touche :-)
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Zeredek
Gallente
Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.12.29 23:30:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Entity
Autograph plz
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.12.29 23:34:00 -
[60]
hey op see that quote button? yeah its your friend btw entity stole my noob ship and is a very evil guy dont trust him!!!
but really entity is a nice enough guy and isnt a scammer so just shut up and call out people who double isk in jita instead
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