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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:00:00 -
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Edited by: ginlaan on 27/12/2009 00:00:03 Originally by: Entity
"Posting to confirm Curzon and I had a little chitchat the other day and that I will be handling the payouts when he departs.
On a side note, it looks like a good deal for everyone involved really :-)"
All people who have any escrows or holdings with Entity should be very wary of the current events with his involvement of the current heist by curzon dax.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1179620&page=2 Post number 36 clearly states he is involved in this plan to steal over 300billion isk.
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Death4free
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan Originally by: Entity
"Posting to confirm Curzon and I had a little chitchat the other day and that I will be handling the payouts when he departs.
On a side note, it looks like a good deal for everyone involved really :-)"
All people who have any escrows or holdings with Entity should be very wary of the current events with his involvement of the current heist by curzon dax.
Post number 36 clearly states he is involved in this plan to steal over 300billion isk.
Thank god you crossposted this now we will be able to form a posse to hunt down and kill a guy who most likely doesnt undock and has enough isk to be able to sell off half of it to chinese isk sellers and bribe ccp to ban your account and still have enough isk left over to buy 90% of the t2 bpos in this gaem
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:02:00 -
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Luckily Spank Escrow Services are available for anyone unwilling to trust this jilted bastion of trust in the Eve community. ~
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Death4free
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Luckily Spank Escrow Services are available for anyone unwilling to trust this jilted bastion of trust in the Eve community.
Excuse me but i think youll find one of my alts runs a much more secure 3rd party service which has succesfully handled the trading off several motherships to date
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Spank on 27/12/2009 00:10:18
Originally by: Death4free
Originally by: Lady Spank Luckily Spank Escrow Services are available for anyone unwilling to trust this jilted bastion of trust in the Eve community.
Excuse me but i think youll find one of my alts runs a much more secure 3rd party service which has succesfully handled the trading off several motherships to date
Excuse me but ur just jelus.
EDIT: Why trust an alt and not ol' spanky  ~
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Wayward Daughter
Swords of the Righteous
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Edited by: Lady Spank on 27/12/2009 00:10:18
Originally by: Death4free
Originally by: Lady Spank Luckily Spank Escrow Services are available for anyone unwilling to trust this jilted bastion of trust in the Eve community.
Excuse me but i think youll find one of my alts runs a much more secure 3rd party service which has succesfully handled the trading off several motherships to date
Excuse me but ur just jelus.
EDIT: Why trust an alt and not ol' spanky 
Alt posting to confirm that I was not bribed to endorse Spank Escro LTD.
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:15:00 -
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Kinda hard for me to bribe anyone at the moment since im unable to log in, and don't give isk out lightly  ~
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:18:00 -
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"Thank god you crossposted this now we will be able to form a posse to hunt down and kill a guy who most likely doesnt undock and has enough isk to be able to sell off half of it to chinese isk sellers and bribe ccp to ban your account and still have enough isk left over to buy 90% of the t2 bpos in this gaem"
You would be 100% correct on all accounts aside from getting me banned. It seems a little silly that point number 8 would be used to try and clear Entity's name from this heist. That would seem to me that regardless of the outcome entity still has some sort of rep he needs or wants to keep. Since he was involved in this from the get go hes just as guilty as the second party involved. If it makes one person not sell to him that shiny he so wants or has any sort of impact then mission accomplished. If not ohh well at least people know hes a scammer.
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Death4free
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Kinda hard for me to bribe anyone at the moment since im unable to log in, and don't give isk out lightly 
If it makes you feel any better i used the extra time when u werent online to win eve....its all over now
Also my alts are respected members of the community and are 9001% more respected than u
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Lady Spank on 27/12/2009 00:22:53 Edited by: Lady Spank on 27/12/2009 00:22:00
Originally by: ginlaan That would seem to me that regardless of the outcome entity still has some sort of rep he needs or wants to keep. Since he was involved in this from the get go hes just as guilty as the second party involved. If it makes one person not sell to him that shiny he so wants or has any sort of impact then mission accomplished. If not ohh well at least people know hes a scammer.
So how much did you lose exactly?
Originally by: Death4free If it makes you feel any better i used the extra time when u werent online to win eve....its all over now
Also my alts are respected members of the community and are 9001% more respected than u
So who are they if you have nothing to hide?
I smell a fibber
ALSO: 680m in market 'enterprise' while away from the client 
AFK, moar vintage cider. ~
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:24:00 -
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"If it makes you feel any better i used the extra time when u werent online to win eve....its all over now
Also my alts are respected members of the community and are 9001% more respected than u"
Are you actually pulling out the my dad can beat your dad routine but with alts on the internet??
I am not asking for any ones respect just a simple warning.
But really that was a funny line brought me back to elementary school days..
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:27:00 -
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Yes but what are you drinking?
This dumb boob doesn't realise who he is dealing with, with will be messed with. ~
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Lord Windu
Amarr
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:29:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan "If it makes you feel any better i used the extra time when u werent online to win eve....its all over now
Also my alts are respected members of the community and are 9001% more respected than u"
Are you actually pulling out the my dad can beat your dad routine but with alts on the internet??
I am not asking for any ones respect just a simple warning.
But really that was a funny line brought me back to elementary school days..
Learn2Quote ------
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Death4free
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan
But really that was a funny line brought me back to elementary school days..
Thats hardly been surprising its been what 1 week since ur school holidays started?
Also you can check my posts to decipher my alts if u rly are that interested (u rnt) but needless to say ive scammed about 25bil in the space of an hour or 2 with my respeactable third party buisness
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Windu
Originally by: ginlaan "If it makes you feel any better i used the extra time when u werent online to win eve....its all over now
Also my alts are respected members of the community and are 9001% more respected than u"
Are you actually pulling out the my dad can beat your dad routine but with alts on the internet??
I am not asking for any ones respect just a simple warning.
But really that was a funny line brought me back to elementary school days..
Learn2Quote
LIKE THIS??
I find it much more personal to just simple use the old ""
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:37:00 -
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"Thats hardly been surprising its been what 1 week since ur school holidays started?
Also you can check my posts to decipher my alts if u rly are that interested (u rnt) but needless to say ive scammed about 25bil in the space of an hour or 2 with my respeactable third party buisness"
1 week brother come now i am in charter school we have been out for the last 3 weeks and a day :-)
But really now your right i don't care who your alts are or you or how much you scammed ( Unless your entity) , all i care is this post staying active. you posting is helping me do that without having to break the bump rules of CCP
And this 5 minute posting rule really stinks it makes these silly exchanges so much more time consuming then they need be.
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Death4free
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan
Originally by: Lord Windu
Originally by: ginlaan "If it makes you feel any better i used the extra time when u werent online to win eve....its all over now
Also my alts are respected members of the community and are 9001% more respected than u"
Are you actually pulling out the my dad can beat your dad routine but with alts on the internet??
I am not asking for any ones respect just a simple warning.
But really that was a funny line brought me back to elementary school days..
Learn2Quote
LIKE THIS??
I find it much more personal to just simple use the old ""
Yes well everyone else hates it and it was only good when farham did it u irc reject
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Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:37:00 -
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Originally by: Death4free
Originally by: ginlaan
But really that was a funny line brought me back to elementary school days..
Thats hardly been surprising its been what 1 week since ur school holidays started?
Also you can check my posts to decipher my alts if u rly are that interested (u rnt) but needless to say ive scammed about 25bil in the space of an hour or 2 with my respeactable third party buisness
SO UR A SCAMMER
I am offering a genuine service, stop ****ting on my good name.
I DARE you to find proof otherwise m8.
Good day sir hattip.jpg ~
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Death4free
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank
Originally by: Death4free
Originally by: ginlaan
But really that was a funny line brought me back to elementary school days..
Thats hardly been surprising its been what 1 week since ur school holidays started?
Also you can check my posts to decipher my alts if u rly are that interested (u rnt) but needless to say ive scammed about 25bil in the space of an hour or 2 with my respeactable third party buisness
SO UR A SCAMMER
I am offering a genuine service, stop ****ting on my good name.
I DARE you to find proof otherwise m8.
Good day sir hattip.jpg
Lady Spank > Kk lolz just scammed some nubbins now im off to have sex with my kick boxing supermodel boyfriend from sweden
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:49:00 -
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Your creative editing leaves much to be desired - read more of Entity's post.
Originally by: Entity
As several people have said before, me being involved offers no security. Whether I can fulfill my end of the deal relies exclusively on Curzon.
-------------------------------------------------- Eve-Online Parodies: Music To Laugh To |

ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.27 00:57:00 -
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Edited by: ginlaan on 27/12/2009 00:58:30 "Your creative editing leaves much to be desired - read more of Entity's post. As several people have said before, me being involved offers no security. Whether I can fulfill my end of the deal relies exclusively on Curzon."
Nothing was edited those posts are there for others to read as well. If i choose not include every single post he made since most of the other ones are him trying to backtrack out of what was stated in #36. So be it :-) He is guilty for the simple fact of that one single post that was made at #36. You know your plan may not have worked if he was not involved so you got him involved he made that post people invested off of his word so hence he scammed with you. Simple really, just because a person states later they have no effect in the outcome the damage was done the minute he posted claiming it was a good investment. The premeditation of the post was done and you and he knew what that single post would accomplish as well.
So you can claim all you want he was not involved but his hands are just as dirty as yours are in this mess. If people choose not to believe that then ohh well. I would venture to say the poeple who invested with you wont tend to agrea.
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Asuka Smith
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2009.12.27 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Curzon Dax Your creative editing leaves much to be desired - read more of Entity's post.
Originally by: Entity
As several people have said before, me being involved offers no security. Whether I can fulfill my end of the deal relies exclusively on Curzon.
The appearance of impropriety is more important than any actual impropriety. His association with you is enough to tarnish his name in my opinion, and I certainly think less of him (entity) now.
That said he still has the best collection ever and I am sure he has lied, cheated, and stolen before now anyways so not like it really matters.
BTW epic scam mate you made an EPIC haul and basically just on name-recognition alone not even that much else. Totally fabulous.
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Curzon Dax
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2009.12.27 01:03:00 -
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Well, your hands are the dirtiest then. I've seen where they were. -------------------------------------------------- Eve-Online Parodies: Music To Laugh To |

ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.28 13:18:00 -
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bump
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Galmarr
Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.12.28 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Galmarr on 28/12/2009 13:32:04 When Curzon Dax was with SN we griefed and scammed. Thats what we do. He is exceptional at it. Anyone who flew with him after his return to EVE new this. But he kept his word to me and perhaps others:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1239501&page=5
He delivered as promised. So get over it.
TEARS FTW
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Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2009.12.28 14:03:00 -
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Zomg! ohnoes! WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!!1111
Well, what -did- I do? Let's see now... - I agreed to handle the liquidation of Curzon's assets and execute payouts, after his departure. - I did not receive his assets, hence I cannot fulfill my contract.
Of course I am completely aware of the social engineering value of association, even with not-so-small print saying there is no extra security offered by it.
To OP: nice troll though!
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Chunky Milk
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Posted - 2009.12.28 14:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Spank Edited by: Lady Spank on 27/12/2009 00:10:18
Originally by: Death4free
Originally by: Lady Spank Luckily Spank Escrow Services are available for anyone unwilling to trust this jilted bastion of trust in the Eve community.
Excuse me but i think youll find one of my alts runs a much more secure 3rd party service which has succesfully handled the trading off several motherships to date
Excuse me but ur just jelus.
EDIT: Why trust an alt and not ol' spanky 
Posting to confirm Spank is the only trusted service in eve, The OP is in fact a known scammer however.
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Ballista III
8e5T Co0pRAt10n 1n Ev3
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Posted - 2009.12.28 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Chunky Milk
Originally by: Lady Spank Edited by: Lady Spank on 27/12/2009 00:10:18
Originally by: Death4free
Originally by: Lady Spank Luckily Spank Escrow Services are available for anyone unwilling to trust this jilted bastion of trust in the Eve community.
Excuse me but i think youll find one of my alts runs a much more secure 3rd party service which has succesfully handled the trading off several motherships to date
Excuse me but ur just jelus.
EDIT: Why trust an alt and not ol' spanky 
Posting to confirm Spank is the only trusted service in eve, The OP is in fact a known scammer however.
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Tierie
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2009.12.28 14:49:00 -
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Confirming that Entity scammed my virginity off of me.
he's a wily bugger.
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.28 15:23:00 -
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"Zomg! ohnoes! WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!!1111
Well, what -did- I do? Let's see now... - I agreed to handle the liquidation of Curzon's assets and execute payouts, after his departure. - I did not receive his assets, hence I cannot fulfill my contract.
Of course I am completely aware of the social engineering value of association, even with not-so-small print saying there is no extra security offered by it.
To OP: nice troll though! "
To bad its not a troll and this was all premeditated making you just as much a scammer as curzon is. It really doesn't matter what you posted after the first post. Since your first post was the one that was going to do the damage and cement more investors for the two of you. Anything after that first post aside from admitting it was a scam really was irrelevant. People trusted your name and you screwed them simple. AS said we both know nothing will come of this you will still get your shiny's and what ever else you do. Just maybe though just maybe someone reads what you and curzon did and doesn't sell you that little piece of pixel pie stomping on your dreams to have the complete collection.
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Zethan Z
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.12.28 15:26:00 -
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I believe that the investors in said scam are entitled to a token repayment from Entity.
Said token repayment should be payed out in buttsex, no fees charged.
Disclaimer:
No condoms will be provided. No security offered from STDs. W(h)ine should be provided by the recieving party.
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jimmyjam
Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.12.28 15:27:00 -
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I thought this was covered in the other post, nice waste of time.
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Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2009.12.28 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan "Zomg! ohnoes! WHAT HAVE I DONE?!!!1111
Well, what -did- I do? Let's see now... - I agreed to handle the liquidation of Curzon's assets and execute payouts, after his departure. - I did not receive his assets, hence I cannot fulfill my contract.
Of course I am completely aware of the social engineering value of association, even with not-so-small print saying there is no extra security offered by it.
To OP: nice troll though! "
To bad its not a troll and this was all premeditated making you just as much a scammer as curzon is. It really doesn't matter what you posted after the first post. Since your first post was the one that was going to do the damage and cement more investors for the two of you. Anything after that first post aside from admitting it was a scam really was irrelevant. People trusted your name and you screwed them simple. AS said we both know nothing will come of this you will still get your shiny's and what ever else you do. Just maybe though just maybe someone reads what you and curzon did and doesn't sell you that little piece of pixel pie stomping on your dreams to have the complete collection.
Omg, you're totally right and you're not actually just writing all this conspiracy stuff up because you're peeved about losing your ... what was it.. *checks curzon's IPO thread* ah yes, 1.3b?
Sure, I will admit to the fact my post in Curzon's thread can be interpreted by people as an endorsement. Which is fine, considering previous business I've conducted with Curzon, I had no reason to believe he would run off with the ISK, much like I have no reason to believe Chribba would scam someone.
I will also readily admit to being somewhat of a crook (See also: Megathron Federate Issue), but I'm terribly sorry, dear conspiracy theorists, there's no premeditation from my end in the current case.
Oh, poo, I just realised I'm feeding the trolls! BAD ENTITY! 
Anyway, please do keep bumping this thread, as even negative publicity is still publicity and nicely serves to increase public awareness of my collection quest \o/
Speaking of which, I need all of the outpost upgrades, especially now they got cheaper with Dominion, but they're still kind of pricey. Does anyone else think I should create an IPO to raise the money for those items? 
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Wayward Daughter
Swords of the Righteous
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:05:00 -
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Justin Timberlake endorsed McDonald's A lady burned her crotch with McDonalds's coffee Ergo, Justin Timberlake is responsible for the lady's crotch burn

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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:12:00 -
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"Omg, you're totally right and you're not actually just writing all this conspiracy stuff up because you're peeved about losing your ... what was it.. *checks curzon's IPO thread* ah yes, 1.3b?
Sure, I will admit to the fact my post in Curzon's thread can be interpreted by people as an endorsement. Which is fine, considering previous business I've conducted with Curzon, I had no reason to believe he would run off with the ISK, much like I have no reason to believe Chribba would scam someone.
I will also readily admit to being somewhat of a crook (See also: Megathron Federate Issue), but I'm terribly sorry, dear conspiracy theorists, there's no premeditation from my end in the current case.
Oh, poo, I just realised I'm feeding the trolls! BAD ENTITY! Embarassed
Anyway, please do keep bumping this thread, as even negative publicity is still publicity and nicely serves to increase public awareness of my collection quest \o/
Speaking of which, I need all of the outpost upgrades, especially now they got cheaper with Dominion, but they're still kind of pricey. Does anyone else think I should create an IPO to raise the money for those items?"
Ohh Entity your such a funny one with your wit and humor. Truth sucks no matter how you slice it doesn't it scammer?
My token sum was only 1.3 billion your right so with that small amount you know its got nothing to do with isk and more to do with you trying to walk away from your and curzon scam with no blame. You know it probably would of worked to if curzon used that little bit of social engineering skill he had and left your name out of the merry Christmas post. So please continue on with your wittiness and humor to deflect the fact that your now a known SCAMMER :-) If people still choose to do business with a know scammer so be it, as I said it will only take one person to hold back from doing anything with you and that is the simple goal.
As far as the IPO goes i would have no doubt it would sell out you silly magoo :-)
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Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan So please continue on with your wittiness and humor to deflect the fact that your now a known SCAMMER
Fact? Really? Where is your evidence? I've yet to see it. Sorry, but it takes a hell of a lot more than a post from an absolute no-name to label me.
Much love! ♥
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Tierie
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:21:00 -
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why do you insult dear entity, he's awesome :(
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:33:00 -
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"Fact? Really? Where is your evidence? I've yet to see it. Sorry, but it takes a hell of a lot more than a post from an absolute no-name to label me.
Much love! ♥"
Ohh my how shall i go on i am just a no name scrub of eve :-( Sort of like David and Goliath hmmm??
Where is your fact you were not involved?? Lets see there is none is there? Curzon words is about as useful as dirt now so he can say what he wants but you would need to come up with better that that one. My fact is simple You made a very concise post misleading people to invest with you and curzon. I got all the facts i need and i am sure others do too.
Little tip Entity don't try to belittle people with your so called power in eve how your the high and mighty and everyone else below you is a "no name" It really just makes you look like a heel. I bet the other "no names" of eve like hearing you say that as well.
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Shmeria
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan
Little tip Entity don't try to belittle people with your so called power in eve how your the high and mighty and everyone else below you is a "no name" It really just makes you look like a heel. I bet the other "no names" of eve like hearing you say that as well.
Not really. The real scammers/lowlifes in this games would prefer to be nobodys - makes earning the ISK easier :)
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Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan Where is your fact you were not involved?? Lets see there is none is there?
Fortunately I live in a world where the defendant is innocent until proven guilty. I don't know how law works in your version of reality though, so apologies. I have no intention of showing up if you issue a court order though, I have better things to do, like polishing my beautiful set of Chelm tachyons.
Originally by: ginlaan Little tip Entity don't try to belittle people with your so called power in eve how your the high and mighty and everyone else below you is a "no name" It really just makes you look like a heel. I bet the other "no names" of eve like hearing you say that as well.
Big tip ginlaan: Don't try to accuse people with non-existing evidence (Huh, 1 endorsement post, oh yeah, it's a bust!) and expect to be treated with respect.
Oh, and +1 troll points for trying the "ivory tower" against me. You're making good progress there, maybe in a few years time you can compete with the most fierce forum warriors of EVE.
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Tierie
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:47:00 -
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Ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty"? The onus of evidence is on you. provide evidence or shut up.
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.12.28 16:50:00 -
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Lawl, Entity could probably just as easily get people to DONATE ISK to him as he could scam people. ---------- There is always a choice. The choice might not be easy, nor simple, nor the options be what you desire - but, nevertheless, the choice is there to be made. |

Benedict Carol
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tierie Ever heard of "innocent until proven guilty"? The onus of evidence is on you. provide evidence or shut up.
You keep your "onus" away from the rest of us good capsuleers. This is a family show!  |

ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:09:00 -
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"Fortunately I live in a world where the defendant is innocent until proven guilty. I don't know how law works in your version of reality though, so apologies. I have no intention of showing up if you issue a court order though, I have better things to do, like polishing my beautiful set of Chelm tachyons."
LOL ohh yea you must be forgetting this is internet spaceships and not the court of law proof,facts and such are more or less pixel generated here in this universe. So as it stands my accusation, proof, and fact still are relevant here in the universe of eve. If this was a blatant troll or just made up stuff i am sure CCP would of intervened by now and locked the thread. Maybe you can use that high and mighty power you have in eve and get it locked? We both know a "no name" such as my self could never hope to achieve that. Hmm there is some more the ivory defense :-) funny how it just comes out like that. A court order ??? Dude step back from the mic and take a deep breath.
"Big tip ginlaan: Don't try to accuse people with non-existing evidence (Huh, 1 endorsement post, oh yeah, it's a bust!) and expect to be treated with respect.
Oh, and +1 troll points for trying the "ivory tower" against me. You're making good progress there, maybe in a few years time you can compete with the most fierce forum warriors of EVE."
My evidence is clear and non fabricated. Being the Internets and all Entity people sort of have to come to there own conclusions on things i am not looking for anyone endorsement nor your respect or anyone Else's for that matter. In fact i am sure i never once asked for a line of people to post here endorsing this. No i am just using the tools available to me here to let people know your a scammer. How else would a "no name" achieve that Entity?
Please Entity we have not even begun to war yet. I will let you know when that happens since it seems you might need that bit of help.
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Benedict Carol
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan
LOL ohh yea you must be forgetting this is internet spaceships and not the court of law proof,facts and such are more or less pixel generated here in this universe. So as it stands my accusation, proof, and fact still are relevant here in the universe of eve.
Not really - none of us really care, so it's not all that relevant.
Quote:
Please Entity we have not even begun to war yet. I will let you know when that happens since it seems you might need that bit of help.
Please *do* let all of us know - I'll start making popcorn for the follow-up thread.
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Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:25:00 -
[46]
Originally by: ginlaan stuff
Ok, you win, I admit, I am a scammer: I posed as a perfectly normal heterosexual guy for many years before I finally came out. My apologies to all girls that have ever been interested in me. Please forgive me! 
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:32:00 -
[47]
"Ok, you win, I admit, I am a scammer: I posed as a perfectly normal heterosexual guy for many years before I finally came out. My apologies to all girls that have ever been interested in me. Please forgive me!"
What is this forum defense called? I cant quite put my finger on it but i am sure i have seen it before
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Jonny 101
Cruoris Seraphim Exalted.
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:32:00 -
[48]
Entity is no scammer, i'll stake my reputation on it. Signature needs to be more EVE related. Zymurgist |

Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:42:00 -
[49]
Originally by: ginlaan "Fortunately I live in a world where the defendant is innocent until proven guilty. I don't know how law works in your version of reality though, so apologies. I have no intention of showing up if you issue a court order though, I have better things to do, like polishing my beautiful set of Chelm tachyons."
LOL ohh yea you must be forgetting this is internet spaceships and not the court of law proof,facts and such are more or less pixel generated here in this universe. So as it stands my accusation, proof, and fact still are relevant here in the universe of eve. If this was a blatant troll or just made up stuff i am sure CCP would of intervened by now and locked the thread. Maybe you can use that high and mighty power you have in eve and get it locked? We both know a "no name" such as my self could never hope to achieve that. Hmm there is some more the ivory defense :-) funny how it just comes out like that. A court order ??? Dude step back from the mic and take a deep breath.
"Big tip ginlaan: Don't try to accuse people with non-existing evidence (Huh, 1 endorsement post, oh yeah, it's a bust!) and expect to be treated with respect.
Oh, and +1 troll points for trying the "ivory tower" against me. You're making good progress there, maybe in a few years time you can compete with the most fierce forum warriors of EVE."
My evidence is clear and non fabricated. Being the Internets and all Entity people sort of have to come to there own conclusions on things i am not looking for anyone endorsement nor your respect or anyone Else's for that matter. In fact i am sure i never once asked for a line of people to post here endorsing this. No i am just using the tools available to me here to let people know your a scammer. How else would a "no name" achieve that Entity?
Please Entity we have not even begun to war yet. I will let you know when that happens since it seems you might need that bit of help.
The only evidence you had was that Entity agreed to conduct the payouts after Curzon Dax quit EVE. He never offered his services as an auditor, nor did he make any claims that this was not a scam.
This reminds me about the Yih scam. Yih hired a couple well known auditors to give his scam some validity. These posts are located here and here. You will notice that both of these auditors never claimed that the IPO was not a scam. Cosmoray only said that the plan could work. VV even went so far as to say that Yih could only get a director to claim he was Yih's main, noting that it was impossible to actually prove that Yih and this director were actually the same person, and that the IPO would be carried out. He even declared that it would be up to the investor's own "gut" to determine if it was a good investment or not.
Entity made similar statements here and here. Notice that Entity confirmed that people would have to be trusting BOTH Curzon and Entity in order to get their investment back. He later noted that he would be unable to fulfill his obligations if Curzon didn't uphold his.
Entity may, or may not have known about the scam. However, Entity never claimed that it WAS NOT a scam. Nor did he claim to be offering any security to the IPO - savvy investors realized that this IPO all came down to whether they trusted Curzon first, and then Entity second. In fact, savvy investors may have realized that this was probably a scam, but they invested anyways "for the lulz", or because they wanted to be a part of EVE history. ---------- There is always a choice. The choice might not be easy, nor simple, nor the options be what you desire - but, nevertheless, the choice is there to be made. |

War Kitten
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Posted - 2009.12.28 17:42:00 -
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Originally by: ginlaan "Ok, you win, I admit, I am a scammer: I posed as a perfectly normal heterosexual guy for many years before I finally came out. My apologies to all girls that have ever been interested in me. Please forgive me!"
What is this forum defense called? I cant quite put my finger on it but i am sure i have seen it before
Dude, seriously, learn to hit the little "Quote" link.
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Roguehalo
Caldari Kimoto Innovations
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Posted - 2009.12.28 18:16:00 -
[51]
OMG shock horror probe......."absolute no-name" dares to criticise 'BIG NOISE'
Civilisation as we know it may end!!
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AterraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.12.28 20:01:00 -
[52]
Originally by: ginlaan
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamabulance tears..
0/ U mad?
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Turiel Demon
Minmatar Celtic industries The AsyIum
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Posted - 2009.12.28 20:52:00 -
[53]
LEARN TO USE THE QUOTE BUTTON!
Anyways, closest you can come to saying entity was 'involved' in depriving people (including myself) of their isk is that he said that 'it looked like a good deal' which it did, though a highly suspicious one possibly.
How is he any different from the people who actually were tricked into putting in isk? He saw a good deal, and was going to be well paid for his service, had it gone through - he's now had that same trust broken as the investors themself and has had his reputation tarnished somewhat.
Meh, give it a rest.
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Jones Bones
Final Agony
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Posted - 2009.12.28 20:57:00 -
[54]
I have no idea what these people are talking about. But I bet it involves someone giving someone else their money, and getting mad when they don't get it back.
And they say all the tarded kiddies play WoW. =================== Go Bucks! |

ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.29 22:09:00 -
[55]
"LEARN TO USE THE QUOTE BUTTON!"
I like to try and be personal on forum's so i quote the old fashion way. Aside from that it really seems to upset alot of you when the quote is not used:-)
You do bring a valid argument to the table on this and i have in fact thought of that myself. Problem is this whole thing went way to easy for the two of them not to be involved together. Curzon was spewing his name from the first post on. Entity is a smart guy lets not fool our selves here you dont get billions by being a idiot. Letting curzon do what you imply would make him a idiot and i don't see that.
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Tellenta
Gallente Invicta.
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Posted - 2009.12.29 22:29:00 -
[56]
Originally by: ginlaan I am a worthless idiot
Damn it!!!! learn how to use the quote button you worthless worm. Also please explain to me how Entity being labeled a scammer would change in any way shape or form what his reputation in game is. Which is 'a guy that collects stuff'. Beyond that as the benefactor but not executor of an IPO scam or whatever it was does not equate to blame. Stop emo raging and trying to destroy the reputation of a player who would not have any ill effects from attaining such a label you are just making yourself look foolish and childish. Unless you are just making a look at me thread in which case carry on I guess.
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Tempy Rawry
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Posted - 2009.12.29 23:06:00 -
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> I like to try and be personal on forum's so i quote the old fashion way.
ORLY now?
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2009.12.29 23:20:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Tempy Rawry > I like to try and be personal on forum's so i quote the old fashion way.
ORLY now?
Touche :-)
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Zeredek
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2009.12.29 23:30:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Entity
Autograph plz
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2009.12.29 23:34:00 -
[60]
hey op see that quote button? yeah its your friend btw entity stole my noob ship and is a very evil guy dont trust him!!!
but really entity is a nice enough guy and isnt a scammer so just shut up and call out people who double isk in jita instead
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Technetium Buyer
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Posted - 2009.12.30 00:04:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Oprah Entity is an individual who suffers from obsessive-compulsive hoarding disorder. Specifically he is a level IV digital hoarder subtype.
Compulsive hoarding (or pathological hoarding or disposaphobia) is the acquisition of and failure to use or discard such a large number of seemingly useless possessions that it causes significant clutter and impairment to basic living activities such as mobility, cleaning, showering or sleeping.
Symptoms may include the following:
* the acquisition of and failure to discard a large number of possessions that appear to be useless or of limited value * living spaces sufficiently cluttered so as to preclude activities for which those spaces were designed * significant distress or impairment in functioning caused by the hoarding * reluctance or inability to return borrowed items; as boundaries blur, impulsive acquisitiveness could sometimes lead to kleptomania or stealing
What we see here is the last stage, when the desire to hoard increases to such a degree that a person will not be able to willingly return borrowed items and may resort to stealing to sustain his habits.
Entity, you require professional medical help m8...
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Kushan
Caldari Taggart Transdimensional Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2009.12.30 00:32:00 -
[62]
Damn, Entity be trollin'
(and he's good at it)
(unlike the OP)
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Terra Mikael
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2009.12.30 04:49:00 -
[63]
This was one of the most incoherent posts in C&P to date.
Learn2write.
hint:putting series of letters together isn't writing, you need to have some sort of meaning behind the letters that is understandable by other people. ___________ Proof that Daniel Jackson is a ret@rded furry |

Lady Spank
Amarr Sekret Kool Klubb
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Posted - 2009.12.30 05:00:00 -
[64]
type ~
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Major Stallion
The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2009.12.30 09:23:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Lady Spank Luckily Spank Escrow Services are available for anyone unwilling to trust this jilted bastion of trust in the Eve community.
50b ISK wired. I'm 100% confident it will make it to it's rightful owner now. |

Bernadictus
Caldari Divine Retribution Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.30 12:30:00 -
[66]
I'll draw you a kitty for some isk!
=3 *miauw!*
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Asestorian
The Debonair
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Posted - 2009.12.30 13:04:00 -
[67]
I am very proud of you Entity, I now agree to have homosexual e-sex with you.
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Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2009.12.30 13:09:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Asestorian I am very proud of you Entity, I now agree to have homosexual e-sex with you.
\o/ ♥ _
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William Pierce
Caldari Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.12.30 21:53:00 -
[69]
Op: Butthurt much? 
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Tempy Rawry
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Posted - 2009.12.30 22:18:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Asestorian I am very proud of you Entity, I now agree to have homosexual e-sex with you.
Huh? I didn't see that in Entity's list of things he's still collecting...
Or is there a secret X-rated list in addition to the public one?
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Imix Immortalis
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Posted - 2009.12.30 23:20:00 -
[71]
I feel this thread scammed me of 20 mins of my life.. At least I'm at work and got paid for it..
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Agent Known
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Posted - 2009.12.30 23:33:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Imix Immortalis I feel this thread scammed me of 20 mins of my life.. At least I'm at work and got paid for it..
 On another note, I also have an annoying sig.
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Selpuka
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Posted - 2009.12.31 04:52:00 -
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Originally by: Imix Immortalis I feel this thread scammed me of 20 mins of my life.. At least I'm at work and got paid for it..
Ditto.
This is just a case of "big nerd" with fan boyz and girlz
vs "run of the mill nerd" with a much lower fan base
The internet forum fan boyz and girlz are about as crazy as a bunch of epileptic people dancing naked on a tarpaulin full of vasoline to strobe lights and hardcore electronica
-R 
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2010.01.01 15:19:00 -
[74]
Bump for the new year
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Mynxee
Hellcats HellFleet
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Posted - 2010.01.02 15:26:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Selpuka dancing naked on a tarpaulin full of vasoline to strobe lights and hardcore electronica
Bring the alcohol and I'm so there! 
/hijack Entity (since I know you're reading this thread): I've started my own little collection of "cute" things and "piratey" things. If you have extra Starcakes you could find it in your black, evil, homosexual heart to let go, please contract 1 to me for some ghetto-reasonable price. TYVM. /end hijack
Ok, people, back to the regularly scheduled programming. *munches on popcorn*
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Muad' Dib
Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2010.01.02 15:44:00 -
[76]
Never flew with Curzon, never talked with him in-game but just reading 1 thread of his was enough proof not to trust him - hey ... that EOH thing also helped Mr. West Point professor.
LOL @ all the ppl who lost isk on this, and nice haul. :) --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market ! |

Tierie
Caldari Duty.
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Posted - 2010.01.02 15:45:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Asestorian I am very proud of you Entity, I now agree to have homosexual e-sex with you.
Your avatar looks suspiciously like a slug.
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Soren
PAK
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Posted - 2010.01.02 18:26:00 -
[78]
ntt scammed my heart ☠-->-->--
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Airtight Alibi
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Posted - 2010.01.02 23:22:00 -
[79]
Good thread.
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JASON W0RTHING
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.03 01:14:00 -
[80]
Edited by: JASON W0RTHING on 03/01/2010 01:15:04 So to sum up,
Noob got scammed=>Noob tries to damage the reputation of THE known item collector=>Noob fails.
Did I miss anything?
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ginlaan
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Posted - 2010.01.04 23:49:00 -
[81]
Funny how the universe turns sometimes.
Support is such a token thing at times when its made public. Support carries so much more weight when it is one on one :-)
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Terra Mikael
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2010.01.28 11:49:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Lady Spank type
When i say learn2write, i mean learn to write, as in Writing 101. Which would be different from, say, Typing 101... ___________ Proof that Daniel Jackson is a ret@rded furry |

Tierie
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.01.28 11:59:00 -
[83]
holy necropost, Batman
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Zenst
Aliastra
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Posted - 2010.01.28 12:08:00 -
[84]
Entity dont scam, period. He even asks if he can breath the air when he comes to your house, he's just too honest.
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The Jam
Amarr Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2010.01.28 14:58:00 -
[85]
Necro bad..
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Herty
The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention
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Posted - 2010.01.28 15:11:00 -
[86]
Does it really matter if Entity is a scammer or not? Its not like he does 3rd party trades or anything he just collects stuff. But yeah Entity is a scammer he told me if I sent him all my isk he would send me back twice as much and I believed him because you know he is famous. Then he didn't give me anything!!! I call for more forum posts because he be full of evil.
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Relettov
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Posted - 2010.01.28 16:07:00 -
[87]
This sounds legit.
1 ISK sent to OP, Entity, and necro-man.
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Sargeant Bunnykill
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Posted - 2010.01.28 19:09:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Terra Mikael
Originally by: Lady Spank type
When i say learn2write, i mean learn to write, as in Writing 101. Which would be different from, say, Typing 101...
And you had to resurrect this piece of dead thread just so you could say THIS?!?!!?
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Helicity Boson
Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel
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Posted - 2010.01.28 21:30:00 -
[89]
Entity is not a scammer. And it's me saying it, so you know it's true.
*looks hopefully at wallet icon*
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Terra Mikael
Private Nuisance
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Posted - 2010.01.30 10:08:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Terra Mikael on 30/01/2010 10:10:57
Originally by: Sargeant Bunnykill I'm so offended by you poasting in a necropost that i'm going to poast a response to your necropost
/thread ___________ Proof that Daniel Jackson is a ret@rded furry |
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