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CCP Sreegs wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Ituhata Saken wrote:Dearest Market-Interested Space Tycoons,
At downtime today we made an adjustment to the average price of some items in order to curb a situation whereby the average price of an item could be manipulated in order to create a disparity between the value of an item in Isk and its value in Loyalty Point payouts. There will be additional changes in how this system works in the future. We will be monitoring for attempted manipulation of the LP market and will reverse any proceeds deemed to have been obtained through manipulative means. We are watching you. DonGÇÖt be That Guy.
By way of explanation we addressed the manipulation issue but haven't yet completed the investigation into the scope of the abuse. Once that happens I'm pretty sure some people are going to be a bit less smug about the money they made that one time when there was a bank error in their favor and then lost again when the bank fixed the glitch. Serious question Sreegs, is this kind of thing actually cheating ? (ie against the rules) I read their document a couple of nights ago and though sure it really did blow massive holes through the eve game mechanics in order to make a giant profit - was it actually illegal ? I don't really want to say just yet, but basically if you know you're using a system in a certain way in order to gain massive resources, whether you're taking advantage of a design flaw or not and whether we classify it as an exploit or not we're still well within our rights to fix the glitch. I'm not going to comment on what we do or don't do at this point because I don't prejudge the results of investigations.
I for one am looking forward to the design glitch - "t2 blueprint lottery" along with the trillions made off that being rolled back.
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Richard Desturned wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:Quote:Oh really? Then why do they, through meticulous research, skill, and intelligence manage to pull one over on the entire EVE community AGAIN AND AGAIN? By overtly violating the EULA. can you show us what parts of the eula they so overtly violated
We logged in.
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:39:00 -
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CPT Plahnut wrote:16. You may not engage in any activity that increases the difficulty and/or expense of CCP in maintaining the EVE Online client, server, web site or other services for the benefit and enjoyment of all its users
seems pretty clear from here....
Welp no more burn Jita I guess. OH WAIT.
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:43:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:Oh joy. More self-congratulation by the Goons. I guess you guys haven't had enough attention this week.
I admit I was feeling a bit left out but you just filled up my meter. Thanks Bro! |
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Posted - 2012.06.22 00:46:00 -
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A nice summary of the majority of the pubbie posts in this thread:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRdmAscQbDg
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Posted - 2012.06.22 18:05:00 -
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Goons did something - QUICK TO THE EVE O FENCE TO LET GOONS KNOW HOW PUBBIES FEEL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gROO7xSTxfY
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Posted - 2012.06.22 18:52:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Pisov viet wrote:Darth Gustav wrote:I keep waiting for PA to explain how you can design a system specifically to work in a way other than intended. Just like we wait for jade to tell us how LP create isk? You will need to link me to the post where I said that.
Here ya go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C1x71fSt2s
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:06:00 -
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I am really confused as to why tech 2 bpo still exist let alone the money made from them over the years if "abusing" something to generate massive resources is an exploit.
I mean the t2 bpo thing dwarfs this by what a factor of at least 10 if not 100 or more. |
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:17:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. No one from Goldman Sachs went to prison.
And they still have their ill gotten gains.
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asd3452 wrote:Better Than You wrote:By goons mentality, we all should be dropping to our knees and thanking Osama Bin Laden for tighter security at the airports. Wait, do you actually think airports are more secure now?
Well checking out all the hot chicks through the nude viewer does have its perks.
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:20:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:why are people shocked that CCP is removing assets? They've done it in the past and they'll do it again. What's more shocking is that Goons did this in the first place. You had to have known you would not be allowed to keep everything
Actually they haven't that I know of. The only time they took away anything that I can remember is when they took away the gm/dev generated T2 generated BPOs that were given to Bob.
If you think this is similar at all you probably need serious help.
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Posted - 2012.06.22 22:26:00 -
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asd3452 wrote:Paint wrote:Lyron-Baktos wrote:why are people shocked that CCP is removing assets? They've done it in the past and they'll do it again. What's more shocking is that Goons did this in the first place. You had to have known you would not be allowed to keep everything Actually they haven't that I know of. The only time they took away anything that I can remember is when they took away the gm/dev generated T2 generated BPOs that were given to Bob. If you think this is similar at all you probably need serious help. CCP also did nothing about the trillions (with a 'T') isk worth of profit BoB and their CCP allies made off the BPOs, 'player' events, etc.
True they never took away all the motherships that Bob/some others exploited out of the those events before they sacked all those player gms either did they. |
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Posted - 2012.06.23 01:06:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Preceptor Stigmartyr wrote:Enaris Kerle wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:So, in other words, CCP Devs (goons) engineered a situation where Goons (not CCP) made an excessive **** ton of isk, and threatened to obliterate anything remotely resembling the market, and now CCP (not Goons) has come in, confiscated their toys, and slapped them on the wrist.
Mind you, again, if any player corp (not Goons) were to do this, the entire corp would get the ban hammer. But, as usual, goon shenanigans are 'Stop that 'wink wink nudge nudge'.
Let me ask the question that no one else will ask: What does goonswarm have to do to get banned? Shoot Hilmar's family? Blow up a major landmark and kill X hundred people? I mean, seriously, CCP, if any of the rest of us did half this ****, we'd be banned in a second. it's true, everyone who ever manipulated the market in EVE or made money from the PI changes or Pax Amarria got banned, and their entire corp too This. It seems less about Goon vs. CCP than us vs. them "Them" being carebears who want Eve to be a galactic farmville. Either it's a sandbox or it isn't. Bullshit. Who got banned for PI changes? Who got banned for Pax Amarria? I haven't heard any of that... what even happened? How would that happen? Got a link? Anyone?
Again, you guys aren't even giving good examples. Removing the t2 lottery and leaving those bpo in game has allowed the players who own them to print 100s of trillions of isk over the years and they are still at it.
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Posted - 2012.06.23 01:12:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Aryth wrote:I completely agree they would. Hence we kept it low key. Another pcgamer article from the PR guy. PCGamer I particularly love this part: "On the other hand I worry that some players donGÇÖt see it that way, that they donGÇÖt understand they are capable of matching GoonswarmGÇÖs (arguable) successes through the strength of their own imagination and social circle and that Goons, like any Alliance in EVEGÇÖs history, arenGÇÖt laser-proof. T" How exactly does one match the staggering profits of such an exploit after CCP has specifically iced it? Enlighten me as to how I can make trillions in profit with next to no risk whatsoever.
You might try actually reading the thread because a ton of examples have already been given.
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Posted - 2012.06.23 01:15:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Enaris Kerle wrote: Nobody got banned. Which is entirely the point I was trying to make re: that guy who wanted to have all goons banned for what is effectively playing the market on a grand scale.
While I grant I can't think of anyone getting banned for those particular ones: I might draw your attention to the Moon Goo Recycling exploit that went on for several years. Ph, and that buisness with 'The GM who shall not be named' . You know, i seem to recall goons being pretty damn hot about some of those and members of both BoB and Goons getting banned in that excrement storm.
You idiot, no goons where involved in that. Second, that was an actual duplication exploit/exploit where they were creating goo from nothing. |
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: You might try actually reading the thread because a ton of examples have already been given.
Sorry, after dozens of pages of goons patting themselves on the back, and then goons screaming about their toys being taken away, I decided not to read then entire 94 page thread.
That was obvious. It was also obvious you didn't even read the posts on the same page that listed examples. ACES
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Posted - 2012.06.23 01:23:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Enaris Kerle wrote: Nobody got banned. Which is entirely the point I was trying to make re: that guy who wanted to have all goons banned for what is effectively playing the market on a grand scale.
While I grant I can't think of anyone getting banned for those particular ones: I might draw your attention to the Moon Goo Recycling exploit that went on for several years. Ph, and that buisness with 'The GM who shall not be named' . You know, i seem to recall goons being pretty damn hot about some of those and members of both BoB and Goons getting banned in that excrement storm. The difference with the Moon Goo is that something was magically created. It was not a mechanic. When you are creating items/capability out of thin air you are exploiting a bug. When you are making wealth by stressing a poorly designed game mechanic you are exploiting CCP hubris. It is an important difference.
You just don't get it. Spending a lot of time and effort figuring out how to buy cheap and sell dear was never intended to be supported by the eve market or mechanics.
OH WAIT.
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Posted - 2012.06.23 01:26:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Enaris Kerle wrote: The Ferrogel dupe exploit was a flaw in the code. This is a flaw in the design. Exactly like PI and Pax, which is why I used those examples. And comparing this to the t20 incident is just ridiculous and doesn't even warrant a comment.
So, it being a flaw at the design stage rather than the programming stage or Human Resources stage makes it ok? I'm sorry, but exploit = exploit =exploit. Whether it's exploiting a contact, a flaw in the code or a poorly planned design decision.
Only if you use the part of the definition in the dictionary that defines exploit as a bold or daring feat. No bug was taken advantage of here. This was strictly market analysis. You haven't the faintest clue of what you are talking about.
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Posted - 2012.06.23 01:27:00 -
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Aryth wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Enaris Kerle wrote: The Ferrogel dupe exploit was a flaw in the code. This is a flaw in the design. Exactly like PI and Pax, which is why I used those examples. And comparing this to the t20 incident is just ridiculous and doesn't even warrant a comment.
So, it being a flaw at the design stage rather than the programming stage or Human Resources stage makes it ok? I'm sorry, but exploit = exploit =exploit. Whether it's exploiting a contact, a flaw in the code or a poorly planned design decision. The ferrogel dupe was an obvious bug. You had a CCP published # for how much crap your silos shoulda been getting per month/hr. Combining mechanics to make something new is not a bug. Generating material out of thin air is. We never generated anything out of thin air, everything had a cost. It was just heavily discounted compared to what we could profit.
The best part is the various moon goo dupes back in the day went on for months before anything was done (it might have even been years, much like some of the complex bugs). |
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Posted - 2012.06.23 01:33:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: The best part is the various moon goo dupes back in the day went on for months before anything was done (it might have even been years, much like some of the complex bugs).
4-5 years, IIRC. As well both your alliance and BoB knew.
Yes back in the syndicate days when goons were space rich with our own complexes and Ferogel moons right?
How dumb are you?
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Posted - 2012.06.23 01:39:00 -
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Xython wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Xython wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:How exactly does one match the staggering profits of such an exploit after CCP has specifically iced it? Enlighten me as to how I can make trillions in profit with next to no risk whatsoever. Here you go. Ignore the crackpot pubbies on the forums ranting about how it's oh so dangerous an activity, you'll die on average once a year or so and make a few Trillion with absolutely no risk due to the same crackpot pubbies blubbering to CCP every single time someone looks at them funny. What do I mine that makes me, personally, 100 billion isk in 2 months or so? Please, keep trying. I'm dying to hear this. I suggest mining morons. You can get 500m per recruitment scam, easily. If you work hard at it, 100 billion isk in 2 months should be quite easy, that's only 200 marks.
Do you really think he is capable of that? He apparently can't read and has a really bad memory so I doubt even mining is going to work out for him.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Xython wrote: I suggest mining morons. You can get 500m per recruitment scam, easily. If you work hard at it, 100 billion isk in 2 months should be quite easy, that's only 200 marks.
Sorry, I've found new players (particularly those dumb enough to fall for that) are getting scarcer and scarcer thanks to the amazing negative publicity a certain alliance has been generating. You guys do realize that while your exploits have a 'wow, that's cool' factor, it's usually also followed by the thought 'Wow, am I glad I don't play that game.'
Thanks for showing us where the mean old goons touched you on the dollie. Thanks explains a lot. |
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: Do you really think he is capable of that? He apparently can't read and has a really bad memory so I doubt even mining is going to work out for him.
Paint, while I grant my memory isn't what it used to be (I occasionally confuse Mittans and Sir Molle anymore) I might point out that for a very long time, I made money every time your allies came to me begging for more ships (cap and otherwise) because some goon plan that didn't involve a con, cheat or exploit blew up in their faces.
Ha ha oh really? Do tell. Are you in fact also Istvaan Shogaatsu?
Come on, admit it, you planned all this back during the 2007 Bob BBQ right? |
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Xython wrote: Ah, the mythical "clueless carebear". I thought it was a joke made up to scare Newbees.
No, people are always going to be dumb. And since Goons are winning the culture war, more and more want to join us every day. We're just better at this game than almost everyone else, and we easily have more fun than most. And dear god, does that **** some people off. :)
And as for our exploits -- the fact that people can get away with scamming, with infiltration, with market manipulation is literally EVE's only truly unique feature. It's literally the only reason most people play the game, in a meta concept. It sure as heck isn't due to the.... "unique"... UI or PVE mechanics.
Because when goons win the culture war, GMs will have to step in like they did on the Chinese server (assuming anyone still plays the game at that point) . While I'm sure this is a big ha ha **** look at em cry thing for you guys, the point is it's bad for the game. It's bad for CCP, and that's bad for everyone who likes to play eve. You might not have noticed, but we're at best static, and at worst, sinking with only people's alt accounts making up the diff. I know when my own accounts expire at the end of the month, after 9 years, I won't be re-subbing. (and, before you ask, no, you can't haz my stuff)
Well that character only goes back to 2008 so it is good to know you are not posting on your main PUPPETMASTER account. You are probably busy building dreads for us. THANKS BUDDY!
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Posted - 2012.06.23 02:10:00 -
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This seems like a good time to repost this important message from General Windypops, he was ahead of his time.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: Well that character only goes back to 2008 so it is good to know you are not posting on your main PUPPETMASTER account. You are probably busy building dreads for us. THANKS BUDDY!
And yet you complain about me not doing the research....
Oh I am sure right? If only I knew how critical you were/are to Goonswarm. I better show some serious respect right away! |
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: Oh I am sure right? If only I knew how critical you were/are to Goonswarm. I better show some serious respect right away!
Paint, the point was this toon goes back to 2004, not 2008. ATM goons are not in my list of clients. and I doubt you'd know what respect was if it bit you on the ass. I could be Mittens alt and you'd still be an *******.
True you've been in so many corps I had to click the button. Still though you need another year and 6 months to hit the 9 year mark. So you don't even know your own history.
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Jade Constantine wrote:Xython wrote:Pr1ncess Alia wrote:they didn't help them fix the bug. they helped their wallets with the bug until ccp fixed it. there is a difference. So the only people allowed to make bug reports are those willing to fly to Iceland and donate their time as computer programmers? You make less and less sense the more you talk, PrONEncess Alia. You do know its possible to report a bug without spending a month on a grand james bond villain-esq plan to exploit the bug and announce how incredibly clever you were for exploiting it on the eve online forums right ? Just checking.
It was reported, even funnier you apparently knew about it before it was reported here and didn't report it either.
Good job!
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: True you've been in so many corps I had to click the button. Still though you need another year and 6 months to hit the 9 year mark. So you don't even know your own history.
Never said this was my main. Just that this toon goes back further then you said. You're so hot to try and score points on my you're starting to make this easy.
I already stipulated that I realized that this wasn't your main. I am not "scoring points" your posts are really funny. I am hoping you will post some more details about your critical contributions to the success of Goonswarm. Should be good!
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: I already stipulated that I realized that this wasn't your main. I am not "scoring points" your posts are really funny. I am hoping you will post some more details about your critical contributions to the success of Goonswarm. Should be good!
As I said, I put your allies back in ships. And when they became your enemies, I put them back in ships then too. The only people critical to goons success are the CCP GMs that have otherwise failed to act time and time again for fear of you all mass quitting under the increasingly dubious excuse of EvE being a sandbox. Edit: Gul'gotha Derv'ash wrote: Burn Jita did just about **** all to the markets, and from my understanding, didn't really "inflict mass suffering" on anyone other than yourselves. People knew it was happening so they avoided the system for the most part. You just wasted a large portion of time because you threw a temper tantrum over Mittani getting a slap on the wrist for trying to coax everyone to get a guy to kill himself.
Yeah, they killed fifty freighters over a period of several days. I noticed that quite a few of them stopped posting when I pointed out that was a tiny fraction of Jita's usual daily traffic, and most people just went around.
So was this when you were in the corp powerhouses "Ninjitsu Heavy Industries" or perhaps it was when you were in the famous corp "The Eiken Club" or perhaps I am confused and it was when you were in "Ninjitsu Incorporated"?
I guess I better be careful here. Not only am I messing with a puppetmaster who has saved goonswarm time and again, but also you are apparently a skilled Ninja! |
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ashley Eoner wrote:This thread is full of hilarity. Never before have I seen so many goon tears..
Are you also a ninja? You look kinda like a ninja?
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: So was this when you were in the corp powerhouses "Ninjitsu Heavy Industries" or perhaps it was when you were in the famous corp "The Eiken Club" or perhaps I am confused and it was when you were in "Ninjitsu Incorporated"?
I guess I better be careful here. Not only am I messing with a puppetmaster who has saved goonswarm time and again, but also you are apparently a skilled Ninja!
We are the shadow that comes by night and builds your house. Ninjitsu in it's various incarnations, rolled slightly over 100 cap ships, and nearly 1k HACs in addition to our Tech II munitions lines and happily delivered to any system in eve if the price was right. Most of us have since left eve. And, you must not notice the theme in my corp names. ashley Eoner wrote:This thread is full of hilarity. Never before have I seen so many goon tears.. I know, right? Paint keeps trying, but s(he) just keeps sounding desperate.
Oh I noticed, that was the point. Perhaps you could make a new corp "MIGHTY SUPERNINJAS.DOT" |
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: Oh I noticed, that was the point. Perhaps you could make a new corp "MIGHTY SUPERNINJAS.DOT"
*points to current corp name* Same level of awesome, much nicer ring to it. Might try googling it.
How could it be better than a cartoon about young girls with giant breasts? That was the obvious high point in your corp history. |
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote:
How could it be better than a cartoon about young girls with giant breasts?
Has more space ships and pew pew. I thought goons were all about those two things? Or maybe it's just about exploits and trolling CCP now?
You are a little behind the times, CCP already said it was not an exploit. You are also a little late if you think Goons trolling people is anything new.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:hey Cygnet Lythanea tell me more about how you were absolutely CRUCIAL to our recent and past war efforts Never did say that. That one was all Paint.
Cygnet Lythanea wrote:I made money every time your allies came to me begging for more ships (cap and otherwise) because some goon plan that didn't involve a con, cheat or exploit blew up in their faces. |
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: You are a little behind the times, CCP already said it was not an exploit. You are also a little late if you think Goons trolling people is anything new.
Of course it's not, because if it were they'd have to apply their rules on that, which means that members of goonswarm would be punished and we know how unlikely that is. And, I never said goons trolling was new, I said that goons used to be about pew pew and space ships. There used to be a difference.
Yeah Nobody got banned and removed from the CSM lately or anything. Everyone knows how POWERFUL goonswarm influence is at CCP. WE ARE UNTOUCHABLE.
Might as well quit now!
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Richard Desturned wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:And, again, not what I said: MC (as an example former customer) had members with outstanding agreements with me. You do realize that not every supply chain stays in the alliance, right? oh yes, Mercenary Coalition, well known Goonswarm allies
Yep we are TIGHT always have been.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Richard Desturned wrote: oh yes, Mercenary Coalition, well known Goonswarm allies
Something tells me that even if you had my point webbed and scrammed you'd still miss it. Cloned S0ul wrote:After 100 pages.
Non goons troling goons, goons trolling goons, goons trolling non goons, goons trolling CCP, non goons troling CCP, CCP trolling non goons, CCP troling goons because this therad still exist, everybody trolling everyone.
In a nutshell, yes. But I'm enjoying goons attempts to counter troll me none the less.
No, we get it, Big Tit ninja girls saved MC when goons screwed them over.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Hammer V Dagenhart wrote:Posting in a thread about posts. I thought it was a thread about epeens, and how painful it was for goons to get theirs slapped by CCP once it got good and hard.
Well not all of us can save Mercenary Coalition while being Ninja girls with very large breasts. Some us have to settle for less I guess. |
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: Well not all of us can save Mercenary Coalition while being Ninja girls with very large breasts. Some us have to settle for less I guess.
Paint, I fully expect by the end of the night, you'll be saying that I'm the secret power behind goons, BoB, and every other chickenshit outfit that's come along. I do not require your worship to maintain my near infinite power and I gain no satisfaction from it.
Well I am a little sad that you are quitting next week you see. I mean, someone as important and e-famous as you obviously has a big future left in this game. Perhaps you could single handedly save another alliance or two.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: Well I am a little sad that you are quitting next week you see. I mean, someone as important and e-famous as you obviously has a big future left in this game. Perhaps you could single handedly save another alliance or two.
Mm... this *is* a tasty burger... There's not much point in it. I figure that EvE is reaching a tipping point, and goons are looking to push it over the side. A few more jobs like this, and new subs will probably dry up entirely. Me, I'm just gonna walk the web. You know, like Caine in Kung Fu?
But with Big boobs. You are an amazing person, perhaps you should reconsider. I am sure that if Billy Merc knew of your amazing super powers, you and he could headshot us. |
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Antisocial Malkavian wrote: WTF a Goon saying nice things???
*head explode*
Sadly, Paint's efforts to troll me clearly have more effect on others. Personally, I think paint comes from the Planet Tryingtoohard.
You ask for respect, I show it, I am in awe of your mad ninja skills. I am also in awe of your extremely large ****.
How is this trolling?
I just wish Goonswarm had corp names half as cool as the ones in your history. HELL, I wish I could have saved MC when Goonswarm failed them during the Bob Delve wars.
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RougeOperator wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:RougeOperator wrote:So 900t to be able to name a system and its planets.
this was nowhere close to 900tn, it was "only" around 5tn It theoretically was an infinite money loop. the real value is not important.
Ratting, Mission running and mining in high sec are infinite money loops. But hey as you claim the real money is not important right?
Or maybe you are just a complete idiot.
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Jade Constantine wrote:Mortimer Civeri wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:
If you did that I might be able to convince CCP soundwave to revert the wardec changes to 1.0 (or better yet) actually produce a decent compromise on the 1.1 fix that didn't massively disadvantage smaller alliances fighting much larger aggressors with the aid of hisec allies.
Well, if you wouldn't "hire" any three person corp, with people barely able to press F1, onto your little wardec, you might find that actually hiring competent mercs might prove useful. Hardly. The guys I've allowed into the wardec currently are kicking the goons into next year. Why the heck would I pay "competant" mercs a penny when the goons themselves only pay 50m a week?
I am just curious - where can I see the killboard for this war and why haven't I seen you ever at vfk?
To be clear I want to compare it to our other endeavors because unlike you, goonswarm is not afraid to lose a lot of ships to proove a point and, ultimately, win. But you are obviously too stupid to pick up on that. |
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Powers Sa wrote:Both of the 100page controversy threads are about goonswarm :V You expected something else? You guys really need to hire a PR consultant.
Are you available? |
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Jade Constantine wrote:Paint wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Mortimer Civeri wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:
If you did that I might be able to convince CCP soundwave to revert the wardec changes to 1.0 (or better yet) actually produce a decent compromise on the 1.1 fix that didn't massively disadvantage smaller alliances fighting much larger aggressors with the aid of hisec allies.
Well, if you wouldn't "hire" any three person corp, with people barely able to press F1, onto your little wardec, you might find that actually hiring competent mercs might prove useful. Hardly. The guys I've allowed into the wardec currently are kicking the goons into next year. Why the heck would I pay "competant" mercs a penny when the goons themselves only pay 50m a week? I am just curious - where can I see the killboard for this war and why haven't I seen you ever at vfk? To be clear I want to compare it to our other endeavors because unlike you, goonswarm is not afraid to lose a lot of ships to proove a point and, ultimately, win. But you are obviously too stupid to pick up on that. edit - a very quick look at http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=7743&m=6&y=2012 shows little or no goon kills. Yep you sure are owning us all right. Pretty much putting a bag over your heads and kicking your alliance down the stairs currently. The Killboard is ingame and anyone can see it by searching for the "Goonswarm Federation vs The Star Fraction" war on the wars browser. Current situation is very much in our favour as you will see. Unfortunately CCP have decided to nerf defensive wardecs with the 1.1 patch so our allied coalition is unsustainable. By strange coincidence it will cost the princely sum of 5 Trillion ISK every 2 weeks if we wanted to continue the war on this scale. As for why we haven't visited you in VFK. Well thats pretty straightforward. You WARDECCED US! That means you have to do the work and come and hunt your enemies not sit on your lazy moon-goo-sucking backsides like some kinda of Jabba-the-hutt crimelords while we come to you! Good heavens, you chaps really don't understand this whole war thing.
So you have no kills. OK
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Commit Sudoku wrote:why would we want to go to hisec, what the hell According to current press releases: to punish all those that spoke in favor of The MIttani being banned for life for his gross violations of the cyberbullying laws of almost every nation in Northern Europe and the United States. I assume that means you don't like someone there and have to go there to 'cyber bully' them.
Wait a minute, you said a few posts back that we control CCP. Perhaps you are a bit confused. |
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:corestwo wrote:"Cool things happened in the sandbox", which is what this was, is good PR. "Cool things happened in the sandbox, but then players got punished for their legitimate actions" which, while the official verdict is still out (no statement from CCP yet, after all), is how many players perceive it, is not such good PR. Not so much. Goons are being tied to The Mittani's fanfest affair and the word 'investigation' appears in a lot of them. So, no, not good PR.
Is English your first language? Mittani *is* a goon. |
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Commit Sudoku wrote:the last time we went to hisec some crazy **** went down and I went home with at least 15 pairs of panties that were not mine Men's underwear are not called panties....
But it is so comfy.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: Wait a minute, you said a few posts back that we control CCP. Perhaps you are a bit confused.
Paint, I have the feeling that everything that I say to you passes through a filter that increases it by an order of magnitude. I said that punishing you was unlikely because they think you'll mass quit if it were to happen, and they don't want to see any big spikes in subscriber loss, particularly right now with every other MMO showing a drop in subscriptions.
No the point is you are a gibbering idiot and you aren't making any sense at all. If you have not picked up on the fact that most people are outright laughing at you at this point you should probably seek help.
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: Wait a minute, you said a few posts back that we control CCP. Perhaps you are a bit confused.
Paint, I have the feeling that everything that I say to you passes through a filter that increases it by an order of magnitude. I said that punishing you was unlikely because they think you'll mass quit if it were to happen, and they don't want to see any big spikes in subscriber loss, particularly right now with every other MMO showing a drop in subscriptions. Yeah punishment is unlikely mainly given the lack of punishment in other such circumstances in the past, AND the know on the payroll Goons currently working in the company now. They cant hurt their friends.
Good to know, I guess the Mittani Banning, and his removal from the csm as well as the asset seizures ongoing currently are just figments of our imagination.
Or maybe you are just an idiot.
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Paint wrote:
Good to know, I guess the Mittani Banning, and his removal from the csm as well as the asset seizures ongoing currently are just figments of our imagination.
Or maybe you are just an idiot.
You mean how he just hops right back on the next time around and pretends like nothing ever happened? Yeah great punishment there. 30 days ooooooooooo and yeah that twitter rage was such great type acting by the way. btw when you pretend to punish someone who then pretends to feel feelings, its still pretend
Look, when you are a demi god like Mittani and you have the owner of CCP on speedial, you have to make some allowances.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: Good to know, I guess the Mittani Banning,
A 30 banning is not what anyone else would have gotten. The EULA suggests a permaban Paint wrote: ...and his removal from the csm...
He voluntarily stepped down originally, IIRC. Paint wrote: ... as well as the asset seizures ongoing currently are just figments of our imagination.
Gee, cheat and get it confiscated. Again, beats the bans that members might have gotten if CCP ruled it an exploit. Paint wrote:Or maybe you are just an idiot. True, but we're not the ones getting off lightly and screaming about it.
The real comedy here is no goons are upset at all. Only a handful are involved.
The real fun is poking idiot pond scum pubbies like yourself with a stick because you are too stupid to understand what is actually going on.
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Paint wrote:Look, when you are a demi god like Mittani and you have the owner of CCP on speedial, you have to make some allowances. 'Mittani is only a demi god? But the posters said ...
I have to baby step through this. He is in fact the God Emperor of eve in every sense of the word.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: The real comedy here is no goons are upset at all. Only a handful are involved.
The real fun is poking idiot pond scum pubbies like yourself with a stick because you are too stupid to understand what is actually going on.
What I understand is that goonswarm have again succeeded in making themselves look like assholes and CCP look spineless in the public eye. Again. I'll just point out that you guys are playing a very stupid, and very dangerous game, for you. Eventually, someone at CCP is going to find themselves in a position where it's gonna be a choice between their job and giving goonswarm the heavy end of the hammer. And I anticipate much tears and threadnaughts when they make their decision, because I doubt that you're going to like it.
Well we have been playing this game a very long time, this character, as an example, longer than you. So if KalMittani wants the blood of a few more Galente infants for his bath, who am I to say no?
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: I know you've love it. <3
I will admit that Paint's posts on the subject alone would be very humorous to read. I imagine that it would go something like: 'DAMMIT CCP! You promised us ETERNAL LIFE AND BIG TITTED NINJAS ON A PIKE! Why are you banning us! IT'S INCONCEIVABLE! We and WE ALONE dragged this game up out of the slime!'
I would never make such a post, since, as you yourself claim, Mittani is essentially CCP at this point.
Oh the other hand you might just be a complete idiot.
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Elysium Foxx wrote: I doubt CCP would deem blowing up your own freighters filled with literally billions of ISK worth of loot to work the game mechanics for personal gain as "working as intended".
Should the mechanics have been tested better - they were probably tested adequately enough and i'm sure CCP were aware of the possibility this could happen - but they prob assumed that outliers in this magnitude would not be taken advantage of.... That was their mistake.
Its not "breaking the sandbox" to reverse any gains made by a few highly dedicated, organized and intelligent players, and any players who have received a donation from it.
I think the only question CCP are contemplating is whether or not bans are required for knowing a game mechanic could be used in such a way and taking advantage of it instead of doing the "right" thing and filing a detailed bug report - including the "uber spreadsheet".
The funny thing is that the guys involved are now minus all the ISK they invested with no profit to show.... Only gain is street (forum) credit for pulling off the heist. Which is all they Probably care about anyway.
I think its pretty cool what they did - congratz guys. But CCP do need to take your sack of loot i'm afraid :(
Well the question is; if random jaggoff went an found an infinite money loop, used it to make 9 trillion isk, then told CCP; what would happen?
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Alex Skate wrote:Most of you are addicted like dirty whores. You(not all) wish you saw trillions in your wallet. Quite commical. SO many of you forget this is a game; Yet, so funny this is not a game to you(not all). It is your life, your breath, what you wake up to and what you go to before you sleep.
You may disagree or agree. One thing is certain: You will continue to play.
When the real world puts pressures and expectations on you with respect to this world, this is your escape or at least a place to waste your time.
Where shall you go? There is no place you can run. There is no place you can hide.
Sorry, I've found eve players running to both ToR and WoT and most of them like it better there than they do here. Mind you, it's the carebears to TOR and the PvPers to WoT, but... yeah, sorry, EvE ain't smack, and even if it was, I can get my fix elsewhere. You forgot Mechwarrior online where the Goons themselves are going. Including notable ones http://mwomercs.com/forums/user/22079-the-mittani/
Assuming you are not a fellow winder, the case can be made that like WOT and many other games, this is just goons being goons while waiting for an actual war or goons that don't play eve because it is so boring when you are not trolling pubbies.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:InternetSpaceship wrote: Wait, so you mean we have a bad reputation in Eve? Well holy ****, we need to get on that, stat. Thanks for the heads up.
No, I mean Goonswarm is giving eve a bad reputation with potential new players.
Considering the fire hose of new players trying to join goonswarm, it is obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about. At this point, I figure you are an alt of ours out to troll dumb pubbies and I salute you as such.
Because frankly, nobody else could be this dumb.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: Considering the fire hose of new players trying to join goonswarm, it is obvious that you have no clue what you are talking about. At this point, I figure you are an alt of ours out to troll dumb pubbies and I salute you as such.
Because frankly, nobody else could be this dumb.
Um, I might point out that every time an alliance is on top they have a firehose of applicants. Why? Because people are lazy and success takes effort. Or they're alts of your enemies trying to get in to attempt to stab you in the ass. This is eve, after all.
Which is why I laugh at you because you don't get goons. You have not the faintest clue what we are about.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:InternetSpaceship wrote:
Huh. Guess it's time to finally gather the vast number of players who hate us into a giant alliance, fly up to VFK and finally drive us out of the game for good, eh?
Don't worry about wardec mechanics, we're in nullsec, you can shoot whoever you like. Concord doesn't babysit us out here. Should be a short and easy war for you.
That's VFK-IV folks, our staging system. Open and ready any time you've finally had enough of us and decide to actually handle it in-game instead of just whining and bitching to CCP on the forums to ban us for actually playing the game, but in a way you don't like.
Sun Tzu once wrote: if you wait by the river long enough, the body of your enemy will come floating by. That said: why, I'm having a blast blasting you in other games. For free. Why should I pay CCP for the privilege of doing something in EvE I already do in WoT?
Well the obvious point is that you should be posting on those game forums instead of crying here.
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Posted - 2012.06.23 06:18:00 -
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Here let me summarize the pubbies in this thread for you in a way you can easily understand/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj6XtOWRCWA
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:In counter to paint's complaints about pubbies in this thread: goons on the fact they exploited and were then dumb enough to brag about it, getting all their ill gotten gains seized. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj6XtOWRCWA
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: Can someone translate this gibberish? Seriously?
It says 'Paint, put the crack pipe down.'
No, it says help Cygnet is an idiot and needs medical care. And I am not kidding.
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15th Century Portrait wrote:I now own this thread.
Ok lets talk about how t2 bpo dwarf this by a factor of over three decimal points.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:In counter to paint's complaints about pubbies in this thread: goons on the fact they exploited and were then dumb enough to brag about it, getting all their ill gotten gains seized. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj6XtOWRCWA Can someone translate this gibberish? Seriously? Anyone else have a hard time understanding the first post I made that Paint has a hard time grasping?
No, look everyone understands the problem except you. Blame your parents. You appear genetically incapable of anything beyond counting fingers and toes. |
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15th Century Portrait wrote:So do you Goons coordinate the hand off of responses like a relay race or do you work it straight up as teams? Just smashing as many volleys as possible?
No we do this based on how fat you are. You get points though for being extra flatulent. So you can't just be fat alone.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: No, look everyone understands the problem except you. Blame your parents. You appear genetically incapable of anything beyond counting fingers and toes.
Paint, if that's your best troll on that, you should be ashamed of yourself. That's amateur league bullshit and I expect better of goons. You think that craptacular comeback would fly on 4chan? Something Awful?
No seriously, I worry for your mental health at this point. You seem to have a really loose grasp on reality. I don't like to repeat the obvious but seriously, you are a complete idiot.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: No we do this based on how fat you are. You get points though for being extra flatulent. So you can't just be fat alone.
So, that means you're on the verge of collapsing into a human singularity then, you have so much mass?
Uh oh, FAT PERSON DETECTED. YOU MAD BRO? How does it feel to be unloved, unwated, and unrespected? Looks like you know HA HA HA FAT FEKER>
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: No seriously, I worry for your mental health at this point. You seem to have a really loose grasp on reality. I don't like to repeat the obvious but seriously, you are a complete idiot.
Paint, you've worked that angle before. You should know it has no bite. No pizazz. If you're going to troll me you need punch! Just calling me names shows you've got a weak hand. You need to TROLL not troll.
So really how fat are you?
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15th Century Portrait wrote:Paint wrote:Cygnet Lythanea wrote:Paint wrote: No we do this based on how fat you are. You get points though for being extra flatulent. So you can't just be fat alone.
So, that means you're on the verge of collapsing into a human singularity then, you have so much mass? Uh oh, FAT PERSON DETECTED. YOU MAD BRO? How does it feel to be unloved, unwated, and unrespected? Looks like you know HA HA HA FAT FEKER> you just can't get the rhythm down, can you?
I'm Sorry bro I will try to do better.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:15th Century Portrait wrote: seriously? rly? like rly rly srsly?
I really wish Mittens would butt in here. He's much better at this (usually) than most of tonight's contenders. Goonswarm is getting rusty if this is their best trolling.
So are we talking Orca fat or Blue whale fat here? Seriously I don't judge you on that basis alone, but it sure helps.
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:corestwo wrote: Most of the last 20 pages isn't trolling so much as it's ****posting, really.
So, did paint get that name from huffing? Because s(he)'s showing some serious signs of brain damage, based on these posts. Paint, in answer to your inquiry, I'm 185cm and 114 kg approx. Not really what most people would consider fat.
No really dude how fat are you? Apparently you are a mega fat monster.
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Maggie Maggie wrote:CCP Sreegs wrote:Comparing removing the manipulated assets of a small number of people to a complete redesign of the game may just win the prize. Hear me out. While I am a goon and of course I do feel that a member of my tribe is under attack, I'm speaking as a player. EVE has always been an open sandbox where players are allowed and encouraged to do things that materially affect the game. That is the one thing that sets EVE apart from every other MMO. There are other spaceship games. There are other games with a functioning market. There are other games where clever players do better than dumb people. EVE has always been an open sandbox. If a player is afraid to experiment and push the game in new directions for fear that, should they win too big, they will lose everything, then that is not an open sandbox. EVE has always been an open sandbox. If that is no longer the case, that constitues a complete redesign. Please don't take that first step. I like the game how it is. When do we get to the part where we stop pretending that a gap in the timing of value calculation (programming) wasn't what was being taken advantage of here? This wasn't just market manipulation it was taking advantage of a flaw in the code.
So when are you going to roll back all the wealth from t2 bpo then?
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