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Xutech
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.22 02:28:00 -
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Anyone hoping to assist CCP in fixing this game is naive and foolish.
You misunderstand how much contempt they hold you in. It's easy to see why you might not believe that yet; it makes no sense. It is illogical and insane;
But you must remember that Iceland is a genetic heterotopia (a place where nothing changes) and they intend to keep it that way.
Offering advice or comfort to them is the same as a crackhead offering to act as a lifecoach for a curbside crack dealer, improbable and laughable.
CCP will never fix these problems, and they will continue to make them forever / with you paying for them / because they are Icelanders and they want you to pay for their lifestyles.
They are smart and clever.
They have fancy furniture and they put tiny screens on little flat pieces of metal.
Their sexual partners are dazzlingly white and elf like. They eat endangered species with contempt because someone from a foreign country asked them not to.
They fixed their national debt crisis by ignoring it and refusing to pay.
They treat your favorite MMO in exactly the same way.
So, The Great Quisling who was once one of you has been sent out to fix the problem: for it can only be an exploit.
And was declared so because who amongst them would admit that it was yet another colossal internal screw up?
And in this sandbox you may very well lose your hard earned loot and even your accounts, because it does not, once again, suit them to pay, or even take responsibility for their mistakes.
So I say to you: Remember the lesson of Kugu. Helping them only earns their contempt. Standing on the CSM sets you as an enemy amongst them.
Treat them as the enemy. Let your braying, harsh laughter be the true joy you gain from this game. |
Xutech
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
183
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Posted - 2012.06.22 05:57:00 -
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Math is not an exploit.
The fact is, for most of you, the explanation for what they did is so complex, it's indistinguishable from magic.
Or, in this case, "exploits". |
Xutech
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
183
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Posted - 2012.06.22 16:05:00 -
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Let's make it simpler again.
Buy low. Sell high.
CCP sold low. Goons sold high.
If you sell your products for the wrong price, you won't profit. The purchaser will.
If any other EVE corp had made this mistake it would be a normal day.
CCP made the mistake and they don't like it.
There is no "exploit" when you give the wrong price on an item and even less pity when you cannot cost that item.
If CCP cannot compete as a company in its own game - why should they rely on us role-playing honorable behavior?
Should we apply this logic to all market trades and business?
Should we apply this thinking to EVE warfare? |
Xutech
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
183
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Posted - 2012.06.22 16:11:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Dramaticus wrote:Better Than You wrote:Aryth wrote:This is always the case of bank robbers. Others are claiming they knew, yet they did not break the law. We did. We had a goal, we met the goal, we turned ourselves in before were caught. Bank robbers. Of course it's self serving. But I don't see anyone else lining up with detailed explanations to the police on how to rob a bank either, or proof it works. We robbed, notified the police. Done.
The bank robbery we did entailed a great deal of preparation, thought, spreadsheets, and capital. No one else moved as fast, or had the resources. Just because you turn yourself in before you are caught, does not mean you are innocent. The only thing I am guilty of is playing a poorly coded game. Good. Then you have nothing to worry about from the CCP investigation to these abusive activities.
Because the result will be fair and even handed.
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Xutech
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
183
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Posted - 2012.06.22 16:28:00 -
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Dollars, pounds, francs and yen. All currency and all exchangeable for goods and services.
There are plenty of currency conversion services in the world, many of which can be found in airports.
Do you believe they provide that service for free out of the kindness of their hearts?
Converting currency to gain a profit is hardly an exploit. Nor is trading currency to buy foreign goods at good prices an exploit, and selling those items at a profit and then converting that back to a favorable currency is hardly an exploit either. |
Xutech
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
183
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Posted - 2012.06.22 16:40:00 -
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CCP has a history of shooting the messenger. They don't want to hear the message but they always act surprised when the disaster occurs anyway.
I know several messengers: they all have this in common. They attempted to help and got stabbed in the back. |
Xutech
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
185
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Posted - 2012.06.23 03:56:00 -
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By way of explanation we addressed the manipulation issue but haven't yet completed the investigation into the scope of the abuse. Once that happens I'm pretty sure some people are going to be a bit less smug about the money they made that one time when there was a bank error in their favor and then lost again when the bank fixed the glitch.
Oh look, it's the sound of Darius Johnson wringing his hands over whether to screw goons or not. I bet he was up all night wrestling with the moral dilemma.
Would you like a guide to how not to screw over your old friends?
1. Don't use words to describe the situation that clearly show bias toward one interpretation of events.
2. Clearly show the way in which you have arrived at your decision.
3. Explain how you will ensure this kind of thing does not occur again and how players can help to prevent such a thing.
4. Be clear and fair if you remove assets from the people involved and do not take more than you should. Do not treat the involved parties as criminals.
5. Treat the entire event like some kind of hilarious and clever prank. Post with good humor. Contact the media and speak about the involved parties as clever players and turn the entire event into positive advertising.
6. If you're fair, unbiased and reasonable even the people you're taking isk away from will probably be okay with it. They certainly seemed like they were expecting to be caught and that the damage would be repaired. |
Xutech
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
185
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Posted - 2012.06.23 21:35:00 -
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CCP have been surprisingly tight lipped about the whole situation, sending out CCP SREEGS "the cooler" to keep things calm while minimizing the amount of community anger and wildfire speculation going on.
Has CCP contacted any media outlets about this story? It would make great reading and might attract more players.
I certainly hope some of you re paste the choicest quotes to Kugutsumen before they are removed / redacted by the fair minded moderators of this just city. |
Xutech
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
185
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Posted - 2012.06.23 21:43:00 -
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Cygnet Lythanea wrote:What's funny is Goons forgot this line in the lyrics: "You best watch out ***** if you're an exploiting scammer Guard will gank you in the face with his big ban hammer"
The definition of exploiting is also redefined daily.
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