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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
276
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:57:00 -
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Many people didn't understood yet how good Goons can be to make things change, and change for the better for everyone.
I hate you and I love you bunch of space ships lovers. brb |
Nostradamouse Riraille
Blackreach. SRS.
25
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:57:00 -
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Cool story bros... |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2404
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:57:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:seriously i was leakhunting with the timeline jade gave us and then someone linked the twitter and I've been nearly crying with laughter at work for like fifteen minutes
Well I did say I just "knew about it" I wasn't making a great claim for having elite spais in your dirty tricks division!
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Ituhata Saken
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
329
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:58:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Too long to bother to read, anyone want to give me a one paragraph answer about what this one is supposed to be about ?
Boiler Room So close... |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
175
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:58:00 -
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I had actually reported the issue to CCP in it's first form 2 weeks ago. They have known to some degree what we have been doing for quite some time. I assume the first hotfix to cargo drops were a part of that. |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
1355
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:58:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Khanh'rhh wrote:You know, if Jade does have sources in GSF leadership it would explain why he stated he knew for a fact GSF leadership were afraid of a foreverwar :V No source in GSF leadership. Aryth merely does not know how to use Twitter. I'm undecided on which version is actually funnier, though. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Raketefrau
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:59:00 -
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CCP Sreegs wrote:Once that happens I'm pretty sure some people are going to be a bit less smug about the money they made that one time when there was a bank error in their favor and then lost again when the bank fixed the glitch.
IMHO that would be an incredibly lame thing to do. I'm not happy that some people have gazillions of ill-gotten isk, but they were entirely playing the game within your intended scheme, just not in a way you had envisioned.
Reverting those funds is crossing a line. It's shitting in the sandbox. |
Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
576
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:59:00 -
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So CCP majorly fekked up once again. All CCP has to do is create 2 expansions a year and you are still unable to deliver anything properly.
The new inventory: "we thought it was ready". FW, no one at CCP even tried to break the system, knowing that the players will do just that, "nooo said CCP, we thought it was ready".
Just stop CCP. Just tend to bug fixing and don't add anything new, since it's becoming evident you are not able to do so without releasing mayor bugs and loop holes.
As a fan I can only say I'm deeply disappointed.
I'm not pro or against Goons in any way but to the Goons, job well done, once again.
Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
Fuujin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
156
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Posted - 2012.06.21 17:59:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Too long to bother to read, anyone want to give me a one paragraph answer about what this one is supposed to be about ?
5 trillion isk. |
Xeross155
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
118
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:00:00 -
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Fuujin wrote:Simetraz wrote:Too long to bother to read, anyone want to give me a one paragraph answer about what this one is supposed to be about ?
5 trillion isk. Only 5 trillion? |
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Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
929
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:01:00 -
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Fuujin wrote:Simetraz wrote:Too long to bother to read, anyone want to give me a one paragraph answer about what this one is supposed to be about ?
5 trillion isk.
Only 5 trillion? Christ, I thought this was a lot of money or something, that's pocket change. |
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2404
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:02:00 -
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Aryth wrote:I had actually reported the issue to CCP in it's first form 2 weeks ago. They have known to some degree what we have been doing for quite some time. I assume the first hotfix to cargo drops were a part of that.
Well regardless of what CCP decide in the end (even if they take all the isk back) it was a clever plan and congrats to you guys for keeping it quiet so long. And if they don't take the isk back you should give it to me so I can fund the foreverwar for 1 month against the new 1.1 wardec allied escalation fees!
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom Epic Inferno Wardec Test, Sign up and shoot Goons for free! |
Aryth
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
175
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:04:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Aryth wrote:I had actually reported the issue to CCP in it's first form 2 weeks ago. They have known to some degree what we have been doing for quite some time. I assume the first hotfix to cargo drops were a part of that. Well regardless of what CCP decide in the end (even if they take all the isk back) it was a clever plan and congrats to you guys for keeping it quiet so long. And if they don't take the isk back you should give it to me so I can fund the foreverwar for 1 month against the new 1.1 wardec allied escalation fees!
Didn't I make you 8b? That is a lotta decs |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
177
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:07:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:I read their document a couple of nights ago You "read our document", eh? A few days ago, eh? I guess that means you didn't actually make 8.7b, then, since that document was literally released 1 hour ago. Lots of us made billions, regardless of whether we knew about the manipulation or not. Every Minmatar that had saved up their millions of LP cashed out gloriously, albeit not on the scale of the manipulators. 8.7 billion is completely feasible given the opportunity that opened up. BTW, thanks for releasing the info and removing the artificial prop-up. You wouldn't believe how I excited I am that the Amarr have less to complain about now, this severely cuts into the "Boo-hoo minnies are steamrolling us the system is so unfair". I'd much rather have the warzone control based on the fighting merit of the two militias. If Tier 5 is indeed much more difficult to obtain, even with all the systems held by the Minmatar militia, we'll know here pretty soon, and it will mean the system is much less conducive to "snowballing" as the "losing" factions have complained about. If we are able to hit Tier 5 again, than it nukes the 3p33n claim that we only could ever achieve Tier 5 with Goon support. Either way its a win-win. You just made my life a lot easier - maybe not that of my militia, of course, but for me personally who's job it is to monitor the state of the warzone and assess the functionality and balance of the mechanics. You've cut through the noise quite a bit by allowing the war to just play itself out, without the skewed manipulation effort. This also means the Amarr are more likely to invest in actually winning their own war, instead of simply throwing alts into the Minnie militia to sip at our juice-fountain, if the days of the Tier 5 spike have come to a close for a while. Nicely done.
So you pretty much still call out the Amarr FW side as being whiners even though any complaints about the state of the Amarr/Min FW side have been completely been completely vndicated and any cries about the system being unfair were fully justified. The fact that you weren't able to get past your own Militia's smug and self-congratulation to take a look into things further just shows how bad you are at monitoring the state of the warzone if the disparity in Tiers and upgrades didn't raise more red flags to you on their own.
If you were able to look at things objectively rather than continually drink your militia's kool-aid you would have realized there was some validity into the Amarr's claims that there was something broken, but instead you chose to label them as whiners and even after this has come out, you're still labeling them as complainers. There wouldn't have been so many alts sipping on the "[your] juice fountain" if the system was working as it should, yet your smug still acts like Tier 5 was the result of the Minmatar's work and the fact that there was no reason not to have a Minmatar LP farming alt was the work of Amarr being disorganized and NOT that there was something horribly broken with the system.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Josef Stylin
University of Caille Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:08:00 -
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goddamit goons, I want to hate you, I really do, but after reading this, I just can't |
Rembraan
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
2
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:09:00 -
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This explains quite a lot. |
Shefus
StarFleet Enterprises Red Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:10:00 -
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>implying people care about LP |
Tallian Saotome
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
811
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:11:00 -
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Shefus wrote:>implying people care about LP 5 trillion isk cares about LP. Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom. |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
247
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:12:00 -
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Josef Stylin wrote:goddamit goons, I want to hate you, I really do, but after reading this, I just can't Don't sweat it. When we come after tengus next you'll have reason enough to hate us again. |
Marconus Orion
Massive PVPness Psychotic Tendencies.
105
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:14:00 -
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You guys need to leave Goons alone! The real enemy is Microsoft Excel spreadsheets. Don't hate the player, hate the game. |
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Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
152
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:15:00 -
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This is classic - how quickly CCP was boasting about the changes to Factional Warfare and the destruction of it by the Goons. After reading the opening threads, I can see CCP babbling "Abababababa..." with Goons following up with "Porkchop sandwiches!!!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1BDM1oBRJ8 |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
247
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:15:00 -
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Marconus Orion wrote:You guys need to leave Goons alone! The real enemy is Microsoft Excel spreadsheets. Don't hate the player, hate the game. googledocs :colbert: |
AureoBroker
Etoilles Mortant Ltd. Solyaris Chtonium
44
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:16:00 -
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i was goddamn sure this would happen in a blink. I'm more amazed at no rampant members breaking the cartel and groundflooring the LP price. Hat's off. (Gotta say, those SomethingAwful forums you come off are quite good, been lurking D&D/A&T for a week and have plenty to lurk, may even register at some point) |
The Crushah
the unified Negative Ten.
34
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:16:00 -
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Ya know, some damn clever people play this game. After 9 years, I still dont think CCP realizes this. |
LoveFromAbove
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:18:00 -
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That PHD economics dude is going to have the mother of all migraines when he sits through and looks at all of this |
Derus Grobb
Iron Oxide Institute
93
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:19:00 -
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Is this an exploit? It doesn't seem like the game should work this way. |
Blastcaps Madullier
Celestial Horizon Corp.
33
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:19:00 -
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Kyle Myr wrote:
Serious question Sreegs, is this kind of thing actually cheating ? (ie against the rules) I read their document a couple of nights ago and though sure it really did blow massive holes through the eve game mechanics in order to make a giant profit - was it actually illegal ?
Jade, lying is against the TOS. You're not good enough to have spies in the group that did this.[/quote]
If lying was against the TOS then anyone and everyone involved in spying/meta gaming etc would be banned along with all the scammers in jita/jita local...
Maggie Maggie wrote: Tech moons are a design flaw. Everyone has known it for years. When you're ready to classify it as an exploit, let us know, k?
dont bait Sreegs.
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LoveFromAbove
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:20:00 -
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the goon alliance panel at next years fanfest is going to be p. good i think |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
247
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:20:00 -
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Derus Grobb wrote:Is this an exploit? It doesn't seem like the game should work this way. It's a grey area. They took intended game mechanics to absurd levels. |
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
418
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Posted - 2012.06.21 18:20:00 -
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Derus Grobb wrote:Is this an exploit? It doesn't seem like the game should work this way.
We'd argue no. It was all within game mechanics - no ferrogel dupes. But as always, the final verdict is in CCP's hands. And to be fair, we are obviously biased. |
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