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Le Soltueur
Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.12.30 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: Le Soltueur on 30/12/2009 21:57:55 Just wanted to tell a little story.
Once upon a time there was an alliance called Legions 0f Justice. They decided to jump into a war which was really none of their concern, however, they made it so. When their wardec ended (they dec'd us) we immediately dec'd them when the cooldown was done. Moments later, Lord Cernyar invited us into a conversation to negotiate an end to a rather brutal war - we were at about 75% efficiency at that point - so we laid down our terms. They didn't like them. Oh well. Stuff happens. Now there's a CEO some of you will remember - JerichoSteele - who then tried to dictate his terms of surrender and apply his will on us. We laughed, of course, and carried on with our assault.
Jericho suffers from foot-in-mouth syndrome. Unfortunately, this has affected the rest of his alliance mates and he can't seem to see it. That's fine. We've stated our terms clearly.
Now, to be fair, they've tried to put up a good fight, mostly.
Some of the more memorable fights were in Dodixie when they showed up with some 25 battleships and 7 or so support, undocked into our 16 battleships and 2 support, and wound up somehow losing that fight. Badly. What was the total? 13 battleships and 5 support lost to our 1 battleship and 1 blackbird. Meh.
So now, a few station camps later (let's face it, they just don't want to fight), we find Jericho's pos in Grispire. Sent out a few dreads to reinforce it, and when it came out of reinforced, we sent a few dreads and a few battleships to finish it off.
SURPRISE! Cry Havok. timed their cyno perfectly as we came out of siege. (Well done boys, well done indeed) and we lost 4 dreads (well 3 that were ours anyway). Where were the L0J people? The 3 that were there sprayed and prayed (just to get on the killmails) and then hid behind their shields while Cry Havok. spent the next 25 minutes taking down the dreads.
Again, GREAT job goes out to Cry Havok. - that was brilliant mates. And good fight!
Here's the kills/losses
Once Cry Havok. cleared out, we killed the tower anyway.
Now, back to L0J (yes, I know this is a long story)...
Jericho convo's me again to negotiate an end to the war. Once again, I lay out our terms clearly. Jericho seems to think that the loss of 3 dreads is an epic, crushing blow to us. LOL. Not.
Jericho decides to take it upon himself to try and make things "right". He still hasn't figured out that we just don't like him. But kudos for trying. So I enter the conversation with Jericho and some of my officers and the convo goes something like this:
Jericho: I want this war to end. Me: These are our terms. <blah blah blah> Jericoh: You are not in a position to dictate terms! Me (with kick to Jericho from conversation): wanna bet?
continued in part 2...
EDIT: Links now work
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Le Soltueur
Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.12.30 21:53:00 -
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Edited by: Le Soltueur on 30/12/2009 21:56:16 PART 2...
Now Jericho can't leave well enough alone. He has to pick at the scab just to see if it bleeds and sends me an evemail which you can read HERE.
Again, putting far too much emphasis on the dread loss, he sends an evemail off to the guys that lost the dreads claiming that he would have called off CH and we could have saved them. We'd all rather lose dreads and die fighting honourably than making a deal with a twit. You can read that evemail HERE.
So now where are we at?
Well the war is still on. And it will be on until Jericho and his corp leave the alliance. Permanently. Feel free to stay tuned for more episodes of lolfits from Jericho and his perceived sense of righteousness.
In the mean time, Jericho, if you'd care to send me any more love letters, I'll be happy to post them here.
Hugs and kisses, -Solty-
TL;DR - <JUST> (Legions 0f Justice) are whining that they want the war to end and thought that threatening our alliance on C&P would be an effective way to do that.
TL;DR;TL;DR - JerichoSteele being JerichoSteele
Posting it here for you all to enjoy.

EDITED for links as well.
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Uruz Rune
Minmatar Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.12.30 22:01:00 -
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First!
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Taram Caldar
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2009.12.30 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 30/12/2009 22:05:11 LOL
Give 'em hell, Solty.
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Mullzart
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Posted - 2009.12.30 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Mullzart on 30/12/2009 22:25:13 Losing 4 Cap ships and almost a dozen BS's to take down an empty medium POS = Massive Fail  
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Lazy Eyeh
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2009.12.30 22:24:00 -
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No war for us? I am ninja!
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Shmeria
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Posted - 2009.12.30 22:49:00 -
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Is it just me, or is C&P getting better since, oh, say mid-December?
Perhaps Dominion is working? 
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.12.30 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Mullzart Edited by: Mullzart on 30/12/2009 22:25:13 Losing 4 Cap ships and almost a dozen BS's to take down an empty medium POS = Massive Fail  
That depends entirely on how you look at it.
If Cry Havoc had come in, blown up our dreads, and then saved the tower until it could be removed... then yes, we would have failed.
As it was, CH just came in for the cap kills, then left LoJ to their fates.
IMO, they're two separate incidents. ♥
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Mullzart
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Posted - 2009.12.30 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Mullzart Edited by: Mullzart on 30/12/2009 22:25:13 Losing 4 Cap ships and almost a dozen BS's to take down an empty medium POS = Massive Fail  
That depends entirely on how you look at it.
If Cry Havoc had come in, blown up our dreads, and then saved the tower until it could be removed... then yes, we would have failed.
As it was, CH just came in for the cap kills, then left LoJ to their fates.
IMO, they're two separate incidents.
It sounds like your overcomplicating the issue. I suppose you could call it two incidents, but it would seem that a Cry Havoc fleet warping in after Underworld was coming out of siege is hardly a coincidence. If Underworld had failed to take the tower the overall fail would be off the charts. But as I said before, 4 caps and a dozen BS's lost in order to take down 1 medium tower is still clearly a massive fail.
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.12.30 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: Mullzart
Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Mullzart Edited by: Mullzart on 30/12/2009 22:25:13 Losing 4 Cap ships and almost a dozen BS's to take down an empty medium POS = Massive Fail  
That depends entirely on how you look at it.
If Cry Havoc had come in, blown up our dreads, and then saved the tower until it could be removed... then yes, we would have failed.
As it was, CH just came in for the cap kills, then left LoJ to their fates.
IMO, they're two separate incidents.
It sounds like your overcomplicating the issue. I suppose you could call it two incidents, but it would seem that a Cry Havoc fleet warping in after Underworld was coming out of siege is hardly a coincidence. If Underworld had failed to take the tower the overall fail would be off the charts. But as I said before, 4 caps and a dozen BS's lost in order to take down 1 medium tower is still clearly a massive fail.
I didn't say it was a coincidence. I said it was two separate incidents.
CH wasn't there to help LoJ, they were there for cap kills. They got their rocks off and left. They didn't return 4hrs later because there were no more caps to blow up. ♥
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jimmyjam
Gallente Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2009.12.30 23:37:00 -
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Cry allways seems to show up at the best moments in placid dont they.
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Agent Known
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Posted - 2009.12.30 23:46:00 -
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Not really much you can do about a hotdrop by unexpected visitors...those dreads were just sitting ducks to that fleet tbh. On another note, I also have an annoying sig.
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TimMc
Gallente Extradition
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Posted - 2009.12.30 23:50:00 -
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lol keep us posted. Even with 2 dread losses, kb stats are near equal.
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Mark Pegasus
Gallente The Golden Knights
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Posted - 2009.12.31 00:37:00 -
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yeah we've had some great fights.
we may be at war but even enemies can show respect.
good fights 07
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diyggir
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Posted - 2009.12.31 00:44:00 -
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True we had some great battles between us and UE. no doubt they can fight. we dont fear them but come to respect them. its unfortunate about the smack talk and personal issues.
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Bellum Eternus
Gallente Death of Virtue MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2009.12.31 06:44:00 -
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Confirming JSteele is a tool and by association, L0J. While I can't really blame L0J for not wanting to fight 1:1 odds (hell, they don't even fight when it's 2:1 odds most of the time), the incessant smack is so intolerable I've blocked half of their alliance.
L0J likes to crow about their successes, but all the heavy lifting is always done by someone else. Frankly I don't see how L0J can sleep at night knowing that their PVP performance is a complete joke. -- Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam.
Tier 5 Battleships
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Michael Hoare
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Posted - 2009.12.31 07:28:00 -
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Yes . . . I completely agree. Losing four capitol ships and eleven battleships to take down an empty medium POS is massive fail. But the POS did eventually die I see . . . .this is called a phyrric victory.
"A Pyrrhic victory (pronounced /ˈpɪrɪk/) is a victory with devastating cost to the victor."
I think you would have been better off losing this one, mate! 
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PostmasterGeneral
Minmatar yo i'm posting
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Posted - 2009.12.31 07:36:00 -
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yay michael hoare came back
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Gilgamesh1980
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2009.12.31 08:08:00 -
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Solti, ping me IG if you are operating in placid,
I hate smacktalkers....
Federic 'Gilgamesh1980' Chopin
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Simvastatin Montelukast
Qui dormit non peccat
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Posted - 2009.12.31 14:24:00 -
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As an un-involved bystander, I don't see the POS take down as a fail.
Had it just been a defended Med POS that took down the dreads and battleships, then yes it would have been a fail.
But to have another combat group show up to activly defend the POS (and as stated, it looks like they just showed up for some nice big ship kills and didn't care to much about the POS).
Ultimatly the POS went down. I would consider that a win (a very costly win, but a win none the less) as very few of the war targets actually participated in the loss of cap ships.
But that is just my opinion, and we all know that opinions are like *******s, everyone has one and they usually stink.
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Le Soltueur
Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2009.12.31 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Simvastatin Montelukast As an un-involved bystander, I don't see the POS take down as a fail.
Had it just been a defended Med POS that took down the dreads and battleships, then yes it would have been a fail.
But to have another combat group show up to activly defend the POS (and as stated, it looks like they just showed up for some nice big ship kills and didn't care to much about the POS).
Ultimatly the POS went down. I would consider that a win (a very costly win, but a win none the less) as very few of the war targets actually participated in the loss of cap ships.
But that is just my opinion, and we all know that opinions are like *******s, everyone has one and they usually stink.
Some things are just a matter of principle.
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Awesome Possum
Imperium Signal Corps
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Posted - 2009.12.31 20:19:00 -
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Originally by: Le Soltueur
Originally by: Simvastatin Montelukast As an un-involved bystander, I don't see the POS take down as a fail.
Had it just been a defended Med POS that took down the dreads and battleships, then yes it would have been a fail.
But to have another combat group show up to activly defend the POS (and as stated, it looks like they just showed up for some nice big ship kills and didn't care to much about the POS).
Ultimatly the POS went down. I would consider that a win (a very costly win, but a win none the less) as very few of the war targets actually participated in the loss of cap ships.
But that is just my opinion, and we all know that opinions are like *******s, everyone has one and they usually stink.
Some things are just a matter of principle.
Confirming that Simvastatin is also one of my alts, along with Alek Karrde and The[space]PitBoss ♥
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Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2009.12.31 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Le Soltueur
Originally by: Simvastatin Montelukast As an un-involved bystander, I don't see the POS take down as a fail.
Had it just been a defended Med POS that took down the dreads and battleships, then yes it would have been a fail.
But to have another combat group show up to activly defend the POS (and as stated, it looks like they just showed up for some nice big ship kills and didn't care to much about the POS).
Ultimatly the POS went down. I would consider that a win (a very costly win, but a win none the less) as very few of the war targets actually participated in the loss of cap ships.
But that is just my opinion, and we all know that opinions are like *******s, everyone has one and they usually stink.
Some things are just a matter of principle.
Confirming that Simvastatin is also one of my alts, along with Alek Karrde and The[space]PitBoss
You forgot me 
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising Cry Havoc.
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Posted - 2010.01.01 18:53:00 -
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CH has no relation to Legion of Justice.
If they had tried to "call off CH from killing your dreads" you'd still have dead dreads.
Was a fun fight, I appreciate that you guys kept coming back to try to extricate your dreads after they were caught. My sec status bled for it, but there were caps to kill after all.
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Simvastatin Montelukast
Qui dormit non peccat
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Posted - 2010.01.01 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Awesome Possum
Originally by: Le Soltueur
Originally by: Simvastatin Montelukast As an un-involved bystander, I don't see the POS take down as a fail.
Had it just been a defended Med POS that took down the dreads and battleships, then yes it would have been a fail.
But to have another combat group show up to activly defend the POS (and as stated, it looks like they just showed up for some nice big ship kills and didn't care to much about the POS).
Ultimatly the POS went down. I would consider that a win (a very costly win, but a win none the less) as very few of the war targets actually participated in the loss of cap ships.
But that is just my opinion, and we all know that opinions are like *******s, everyone has one and they usually stink.
Some things are just a matter of principle.
Confirming that Simvastatin is also one of my alts, along with Alek Karrde and The[space]PitBoss
Crap, I am an alt now. Oh well, guess I have to go spend time with the family again.
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Varesk
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.01.01 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mistress Suffering CH has no relation to Legion of Justice.
If they had tried to "call off CH from killing your dreads" you'd still have dead dreads.
Was a fun fight, I appreciate that you guys kept coming back to try to extricate your dreads after they were caught. My sec status bled for it, but there were caps to kill after all.
meant to give you guys the GF in local, however i was removed from my mega very quickly and had to go buy another ship.
GF guys, It was fun.
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Maximilien Robespierra
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Posted - 2010.01.01 22:22:00 -
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Free bump for a interesting read!
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Le Soltueur
Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.01.02 07:45:00 -
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***UPDATE***
So after more spouting off in local, Jericho managed to give up the location of another pos.
Conversation in local went something like this:
Jericho > Waaaaaaaaaaaaaah sploiters hax0rs zomg Us > Tower is dead. Jericho > I didn't want that tower anyway Us > LOL Jericho > I have a tower in XXXXXXX why don't you go shoot that one! Us > OK!
Oddly enough, the tower we found in XXXXXXX didn't belong to Jericho's corp. It belonged to another corp in the same alliance. Today, we reinforced that high-sec shadow control tower. I'm sure that Lord Stargazen appreciates Jericho's loose lips.
I know we do. 
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Serlunt
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Posted - 2010.01.02 08:37:00 -
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Originally by: Le Soltueur Oddly enough, the tower we found in XXXXXXX didn't belong to Jericho's corp. It belonged to another corp in the same alliance. Today, we reinforced that high-sec shadow control tower. I'm sure that Lord Stargazen appreciates Jericho's loose lips.
You know, sometimes I wonder if some of these guys are smarter than they let on and are actually trying to pull off some Capt. Tyler style antics.
Don't get me wrong, Jericho doesn't come off as the type that could. It just got me thinking.
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Sturdy Girl
Silent Ninja's
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Posted - 2010.01.02 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: Sturdy Girl on 02/01/2010 15:23:56 I can't be the only one that really appreciates Jerichos continued involvement in EVE:
Regardless of the time of year, there's always someone receiving his unique brand of attention, and it never fails to generate a serious amount of C&P deliciousness.
Also, this isn't the first time he's sacrificed the location of a POS... TFHG used to keep an excellent news page going over at http://free-haven-group.net/ but unfortunately they seem to have stopped updating it since we took down their POS months ago. Maybe Jericho finaly realised his ludicrous propaganda was leaking intel like a sieve, and was half the reason we continued to beast them so long.
But to be fair, the other half was that they didn't run and hide, but generally enjoyed getting involved in a proper fight, and would always hand out some lovely smacktalk afterwards.
Essentially, even if you don't make a single cent when attacking Jericho, there is virtually zero risk, and infinite reward! 
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