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CA has no friends, only people we tolerate.. We kill those as well.

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CA has no friends, only people we tolerate.. We kill those as well.

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Originally by: Lallante

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we are just doing a Celestial Apoc.,

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Originally by: Lallante

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we are just doing a Celestial Apoc.,

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Originally by: Rath Amon

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Originally by: Lallante

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we are just doing a Celestial Apoc.,

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what...safe spotting, login traps and running away.
cool, can i join

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Originally by: Rath Amon

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Originally by: Lallante

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we are just doing a Celestial Apoc.,

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what...safe spotting, login traps and running away.
cool, can i join

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Originally by: Rath Amon

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Originally by: Lallante

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we are just doing a Celestial Apoc.,

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what...safe spotting, login traps and running away.
cool, can i join

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*Masta Killa writes that down for future reference when Celes deny "safespotting, login traps and running away".

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Originally by: Rath Amon

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Originally by: Lallante

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we are just doing a Celestial Apoc.,

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what...safe spotting, login traps and running away.
cool, can i join

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*Masta Killa writes that down for future reference when Celes deny "safespotting, login traps and running away".

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Originally by: The Monk

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And before anyone says anything ShinRa isnt a pirate corp.

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Originally by: The Monk

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And before anyone says anything ShinRa isnt a pirate corp.

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Originally by: sutty

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who cares, there aint any pirates anymore.

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Originally by: sutty

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who cares, there aint any pirates anymore.

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Originally by: The Monk

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And before anyone says anything ShinRa isnt a pirate corp.

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Isnt a pirate corp, but they do ganking at gates, shooting innocent travellers and a few other pirating activites, so yup like you said your not a pirate corp just just try and pretend to be one cause all Ive seen shinra do as of late is run and hide in assah...Hmmm yup thats a pirate activity too running and hiding so guess your really not a pirate corp after all

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Originally by: The Monk

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And before anyone says anything ShinRa isnt a pirate corp.

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Isnt a pirate corp, but they do ganking at gates, shooting innocent travellers and a few other pirating activites, so yup like you said your not a pirate corp just just try and pretend to be one cause all Ive seen shinra do as of late is run and hide in assah...Hmmm yup thats a pirate activity too running and hiding so guess your really not a pirate corp after all

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Originally by: Darkrydar

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Edited by: Darkrydar on 18/11/2004 17:05:08

Originally by: Kythanis

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Originally by: The Monk

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And before anyone says anything ShinRa isnt a pirate corp.

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Isnt a pirate corp, but they do ganking at gates, shooting innocent travellers and a few other pirating activites, so yup like you said your not a pirate corp just just try and pretend to be one cause all Ive seen shinra do as of late is run and hide in assah...Hmmm yup thats a pirate activity too running and hiding so guess your really not a pirate corp after all

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ROFL

Ask Sinista abot his billion isk Apoc we killed in Paragon Soul.

DDC isnt good at anything bu spending money tbh.

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Originally by: Darkrydar

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Edited by: Darkrydar on 18/11/2004 17:05:08

Originally by: Kythanis

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Originally by: The Monk

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And before anyone says anything ShinRa isnt a pirate corp.

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Isnt a pirate corp, but they do ganking at gates, shooting innocent travellers and a few other pirating activites, so yup like you said your not a pirate corp just just try and pretend to be one cause all Ive seen shinra do as of late is run and hide in assah...Hmmm yup thats a pirate activity too running and hiding so guess your really not a pirate corp after all

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ROFL

Ask Sinista abot his billion isk Apoc we killed in Paragon Soul.

DDC isnt good at anything bu spending money tbh.

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Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar

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Hm.. calling the CA pirates is like calling Ossoma Bin Laiden a local thug ;/

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Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar

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Hm.. calling the CA pirates is like calling Ossoma Bin Laiden a local thug ;/

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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He He He

Okey it speaks for it self dosen't it

So next time I should ask before I shoot at CA

Naaa don't think so

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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He He He

Okey it speaks for it self dosen't it

So next time I should ask before I shoot at CA

Naaa don't think so

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Originally by: Carpe Diem

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ahhh yesss ok.... and CA had/has never been in good relationship with such alliances like the TPS right?

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Isnt a pirate corp, but they do ganking at gates, shooting innocent travellers and a few other pirating activites, so yup like you said your not a pirate corp just just try and pretend to be one cause all Ive seen shinra do as of late is run and hide in assah...Hmmm yup thats a pirate activity too running and hiding so guess your really not a pirate corp after all

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Oh I know about the ganking of Sini, like I said orgionally, gank, run do what ever it is pirates do but please give ppl a break when you claim your not pirates and clearly do those activites. Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Originally by: Carpe Diem

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ahhh yesss ok.... and CA had/has never been in good relationship with such alliances like the TPS right?

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Isnt a pirate corp, but they do ganking at gates, shooting innocent travellers and a few other pirating activites, so yup like you said your not a pirate corp just just try and pretend to be one cause all Ive seen shinra do as of late is run and hide in assah...Hmmm yup thats a pirate activity too running and hiding so guess your really not a pirate corp after all

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Oh I know about the ganking of Sini, like I said orgionally, gank, run do what ever it is pirates do but please give ppl a break when you claim your not pirates and clearly do those activites. Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Originally by: Vladstamir

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Originally by: Carpe Diem

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ahhh yesss ok.... and CA had/has never been in good relationship with such alliances like the TPS right?

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This one does get to me, judging us by who we have been friendly to. Have a look around and see whom other alliances are currently allied with and think about this statement. Not that it matters who we ally with.

Originally by: Kythanis

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Isnt a pirate corp, but they do ganking at gates, shooting innocent travellers and a few other pirating activites, so yup like you said your not a pirate corp just just try and pretend to be one cause all Ive seen shinra do as of late is run and hide in assah...Hmmm yup thats a pirate activity too running and hiding so guess your really not a pirate corp after all

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Oh I know about the ganking of Sini, like I said orgionally, gank, run do what ever it is pirates do but please give ppl a break when you claim your not pirates and clearly do those activites. Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Now this is just flame bait and smack, and as such should be ignored. My views on DDC are kept to myself, any 'hostile' contact between us should be in space and not here. However, I do thank you for the kind comments that were in the first part of your original post.

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Originally by: Vladstamir

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Originally by: Carpe Diem

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ahhh yesss ok.... and CA had/has never been in good relationship with such alliances like the TPS right?

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This one does get to me, judging us by who we have been friendly to. Have a look around and see whom other alliances are currently allied with and think about this statement. Not that it matters who we ally with.

Originally by: Kythanis

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Isnt a pirate corp, but they do ganking at gates, shooting innocent travellers and a few other pirating activites, so yup like you said your not a pirate corp just just try and pretend to be one cause all Ive seen shinra do as of late is run and hide in assah...Hmmm yup thats a pirate activity too running and hiding so guess your really not a pirate corp after all

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Oh I know about the ganking of Sini, like I said orgionally, gank, run do what ever it is pirates do but please give ppl a break when you claim your not pirates and clearly do those activites. Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Now this is just flame bait and smack, and as such should be ignored. My views on DDC are kept to myself, any 'hostile' contact between us should be in space and not here. However, I do thank you for the kind comments that were in the first part of your original post.

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Originally by: Dolemite2K

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

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OMG OMG OMG.... I'm leaving CA rigth now Ok? plz don't shoot me

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Originally by: Dolemite2K

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

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OMG OMG OMG.... I'm leaving CA rigth now Ok? plz don't shoot me

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Originally by: Dolemite2K

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

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OMG OMG OMG.... I'm leaving CA rigth now Ok? plz don't shoot me

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Blaa Blaa Blaa.

This was not ment for you, who like PVP.

I like we have pirats in EVE, you bring the fun into the game, however some of the new corps in your alliance have been told that CA only is defending there own space.

I didn't believe that but I guess they did, however these people have been my friends and allied, and they think they will be safe just because they can mine in CA......

If you love PVP that much then why the **** do you tell the new corps that they can be safe under you wings and CA isen't a Pirat Alliance.

This isen't about beening afraid, it's about how you play the game, and telling people that CA is Mr. nice dosen't really make any sence to me.

You are PVP aswell as many of the other alliances, and people who join CA must understand that they join an alliance that are in war with almost all the other alliances, don't tell them anything else.

Nivlartar

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Originally by: Dolemite2K

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

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OMG OMG OMG.... I'm leaving CA rigth now Ok? plz don't shoot me

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Blaa Blaa Blaa.

This was not ment for you, who like PVP.

I like we have pirats in EVE, you bring the fun into the game, however some of the new corps in your alliance have been told that CA only is defending there own space.

I didn't believe that but I guess they did, however these people have been my friends and allied, and they think they will be safe just because they can mine in CA......

If you love PVP that much then why the **** do you tell the new corps that they can be safe under you wings and CA isen't a Pirat Alliance.

This isen't about beening afraid, it's about how you play the game, and telling people that CA is Mr. nice dosen't really make any sence to me.

You are PVP aswell as many of the other alliances, and people who join CA must understand that they join an alliance that are in war with almost all the other alliances, don't tell them anything else.

Nivlartar

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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I didn't believe that but I guess they did, however these people have been my friends and allied, and they think they will be safe just because they can mine in CA......

If you love PVP that much then why the **** do you tell the new corps that they can be safe under you wings and CA isen't a Pirat Alliance.

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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I didn't believe that but I guess they did, however these people have been my friends and allied, and they think they will be safe just because they can mine in CA......

If you love PVP that much then why the **** do you tell the new corps that they can be safe under you wings and CA isen't a Pirat Alliance.

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Originally by: Wraeththu

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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I didn't believe that but I guess they did, however these people have been my friends and allied, and they think they will be safe just because they can mine in CA......

If you love PVP that much then why the **** do you tell the new corps that they can be safe under you wings and CA isen't a Pirat Alliance.

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Seriously bro, you need to sit back for a second and survey the scene. Crice pretty much has this sewn up and, in his own Cricetacular way, is trying to help you see.

There is no moral superiority in terms of alliances.

How you define law is based on either a societally recognized legal system (such as CONCORD), or a morally subscribed legal system.

At the point that societally recognized law (CONCORD) ceases to exist, the concept of breaking that law is removed. So you're left with only moral distinction as sec level becomes 0.0 or lower.

Summation, piracy will be totally subjective once security hits 0.0, as CONDOCKEN can't tell who who is, or isn't, breaking the 'law'.

When the pod-pirates burst onto the scene, everyone was given full access to 0.0. It was your right. The majority of those people chose to not exercise that right, and it was promptly stolen from them by those enteprising individuals that set up cartels and mobs under the angelic auspices of an 'alliance'.

In a further breach of rights, the majority of the pod pilots recognized these cartels as being legitimate and honored their wishes, thereby legally empowering them to maintain their status.

Each alliance is empowered and recognized by the majority of people in eve. You GAVE them the right to shoot you, implicity. It's not piracy.

Or, if you define it as piracy, than all alliances are pirates.

Either way you cut the pie, that's how the world turns.

As I see it, very few 'pirates' actually exist. Because to be a pirate you really need to operate in empire space, with the possible exception of anyone who's non-alligned with an alliance and chooses to privateer in alliance space.

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Originally by: Wraeththu

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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I didn't believe that but I guess they did, however these people have been my friends and allied, and they think they will be safe just because they can mine in CA......

If you love PVP that much then why the **** do you tell the new corps that they can be safe under you wings and CA isen't a Pirat Alliance.

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Seriously bro, you need to sit back for a second and survey the scene. Crice pretty much has this sewn up and, in his own Cricetacular way, is trying to help you see.

There is no moral superiority in terms of alliances.

How you define law is based on either a societally recognized legal system (such as CONCORD), or a morally subscribed legal system.

At the point that societally recognized law (CONCORD) ceases to exist, the concept of breaking that law is removed. So you're left with only moral distinction as sec level becomes 0.0 or lower.

Summation, piracy will be totally subjective once security hits 0.0, as CONDOCKEN can't tell who who is, or isn't, breaking the 'law'.

When the pod-pirates burst onto the scene, everyone was given full access to 0.0. It was your right. The majority of those people chose to not exercise that right, and it was promptly stolen from them by those enteprising individuals that set up cartels and mobs under the angelic auspices of an 'alliance'.

In a further breach of rights, the majority of the pod pilots recognized these cartels as being legitimate and honored their wishes, thereby legally empowering them to maintain their status.

Each alliance is empowered and recognized by the majority of people in eve. You GAVE them the right to shoot you, implicity. It's not piracy.

Or, if you define it as piracy, than all alliances are pirates.

Either way you cut the pie, that's how the world turns.

As I see it, very few 'pirates' actually exist. Because to be a pirate you really need to operate in empire space, with the possible exception of anyone who's non-alligned with an alliance and chooses to privateer in alliance space.

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Originally by: Redon

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ahahahahaha Mr. Nivlartar member os SA for 4 days which has been playing eve for alittle over 5months. stfu about things you dont know. you pirate you.

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Originally by: Redon

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ahahahahaha Mr. Nivlartar member os SA for 4 days which has been playing eve for alittle over 5months. stfu about things you dont know. you pirate you.

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Originally by: "Kythanis"

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Ok let me rephrase that last quote for you, I have seen corp1, omega corp and shinra all do questionable tactics, same as any other large scale or medium scale fighting going on. I should say that they are not pirate corps but player vs player corps if you prefer that term, yes eve is a pvp game yes its my choice wether to participate in pvp activities. I just cant justify blowning a noob up for no rhyme or reason and spoiling the game for them, as for the more mature players envolved in the pvp aspect who can afford the losses, time spent what ever turns your crank I suppose if this quantifies me as a carebear fine such as it is in your viewpoint.

Then again different corps will have their own views on other corps as one of your members points out DDC is good at spending money... I wonder why that is never mind that will just invite the flames to respark and promote ppl getting their flamethrowers out.

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Originally by: "Kythanis"

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Ok let me rephrase that last quote for you, I have seen corp1, omega corp and shinra all do questionable tactics, same as any other large scale or medium scale fighting going on. I should say that they are not pirate corps but player vs player corps if you prefer that term, yes eve is a pvp game yes its my choice wether to participate in pvp activities. I just cant justify blowning a noob up for no rhyme or reason and spoiling the game for them, as for the more mature players envolved in the pvp aspect who can afford the losses, time spent what ever turns your crank I suppose if this quantifies me as a carebear fine such as it is in your viewpoint.

Then again different corps will have their own views on other corps as one of your members points out DDC is good at spending money... I wonder why that is never mind that will just invite the flames to respark and promote ppl getting their flamethrowers out.

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Originally by: The Monk

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And before anyone says anything ShinRa isnt a pirate corp.

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Isnt a pirate corp, but they do ganking at gates, shooting innocent travellers and a few other pirating activites, so yup like you said your not a pirate corp just just try and pretend to be one cause all Ive seen shinra do as of late is run and hide in assah...Hmmm yup thats a pirate activity too running and hiding so guess your really not a pirate corp after all

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Originally by: The Monk

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And before anyone says anything ShinRa isnt a pirate corp.

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Isnt a pirate corp, but they do ganking at gates, shooting innocent travellers and a few other pirating activites, so yup like you said your not a pirate corp just just try and pretend to be one cause all Ive seen shinra do as of late is run and hide in assah...Hmmm yup thats a pirate activity too running and hiding so guess your really not a pirate corp after all

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Okey Okey now we are going into smack-talk

Well it seems that CA have pirats and non-pirats so maybe thats why those CA guys I talked to said like they did.

No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

However when we go on hit'n run missions in curse ( like they do with us ) U will become a target aswell as the pirats.

Don't know who told these trial members of CA that, it was a normal alliance and not pirats anymore. CA support pirat corps so that means they are pirats.

Good luck out there

Nivlartar

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Okey Okey now we are going into smack-talk

Well it seems that CA have pirats and non-pirats so maybe thats why those CA guys I talked to said like they did.

No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

However when we go on hit'n run missions in curse ( like they do with us ) U will become a target aswell as the pirats.

Don't know who told these trial members of CA that, it was a normal alliance and not pirats anymore. CA support pirat corps so that means they are pirats.

Good luck out there

Nivlartar

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Originally by: slip66

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by your own logic YOU are your self one. Kinda hippocritical if you ask me. Anyone joining CA knows full well they are joining for the PVP. They may have to run due to numbers etc.. but they arent running because they are afraid of pvp.

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Originally by: slip66

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by your own logic YOU are your self one. Kinda hippocritical if you ask me. Anyone joining CA knows full well they are joining for the PVP. They may have to run due to numbers etc.. but they arent running because they are afraid of pvp.

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Okey Okey now we are going into smack-talk

Well it seems that CA have pirats and non-pirats so maybe thats why those CA guys I talked to said like they did.

No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

However when we go on hit'n run missions in curse ( like they do with us ) U will become a target aswell as the pirats.

Don't know who told these trial members of CA that, it was a normal alliance and not pirats anymore. CA support pirat corps so that means they are pirats.

Good luck out there

Nivlartar

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Okey Okey now we are going into smack-talk

Well it seems that CA have pirats and non-pirats so maybe thats why those CA guys I talked to said like they did.

No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

However when we go on hit'n run missions in curse ( like they do with us ) U will become a target aswell as the pirats.

Don't know who told these trial members of CA that, it was a normal alliance and not pirats anymore. CA support pirat corps so that means they are pirats.

Good luck out there

Nivlartar

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Originally by: Shiwan Khan

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Okey Okey now we are going into smack-talk

Well it seems that CA have pirats and non-pirats so maybe thats why those CA guys I talked to said like they did.

No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

However when we go on hit'n run missions in curse ( like they do with us ) U will become a target aswell as the pirats.

Don't know who told these trial members of CA that, it was a normal alliance and not pirats anymore. CA support pirat corps so that means they are pirats.

Good luck out there

Nivlartar

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You sir, are stupid. CA does not pirate, we fight everyone. If anything look at us as equal opportunity fighters or agressive market adjusters. Some noob from Xetic claims Shinra are pirates so you must believe him...he says DDC is owning Shinra so bad its a wonder they dont fly frigs? HA! I have fought DDC and they have nothing to brag about. Oh and name a pirate corp that we support.

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Originally by: Shiwan Khan

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Okey Okey now we are going into smack-talk

Well it seems that CA have pirats and non-pirats so maybe thats why those CA guys I talked to said like they did.

No matter if CA pops up on my scanner, I have to shoot so if U aren't pirats and are in the CA alliance you better find another alliance to join or stay in curse/empire.

However when we go on hit'n run missions in curse ( like they do with us ) U will become a target aswell as the pirats.

Don't know who told these trial members of CA that, it was a normal alliance and not pirats anymore. CA support pirat corps so that means they are pirats.

Good luck out there

Nivlartar

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You sir, are stupid. CA does not pirate, we fight everyone. If anything look at us as equal opportunity fighters or agressive market adjusters. Some noob from Xetic claims Shinra are pirates so you must believe him...he says DDC is owning Shinra so bad its a wonder they dont fly frigs? HA! I have fought DDC and they have nothing to brag about. Oh and name a pirate corp that we support.

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Originally by: Lansfear

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THis topic is about a year and a half old. Ca still say they are not pirates, and I agree they are not. They are just pvper's that shoot anything not blue, anywhere in eve. Oh, wait.......

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Originally by: Lansfear

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THis topic is about a year and a half old. Ca still say they are not pirates, and I agree they are not. They are just pvper's that shoot anything not blue, anywhere in eve. Oh, wait.......

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Originally by: Luc Boye

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Aint this all talk about pirates and anti-pirates a bit passÚ?

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Originally by: Luc Boye

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Aint this all talk about pirates and anti-pirates a bit passÚ?

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Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich

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Yeahh, i personally think Khaki is in for the next season, maybe with pos millitary boots

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Originally by: Einheriar Ulrich

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Yeahh, i personally think Khaki is in for the next season, maybe with pos millitary boots

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Originally by: Lallante

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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Originally by: Lallante

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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Originally by: Vladstamir

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Edited by: Vladstamir on 19/11/2004 10:16:58
Edited by: Vladstamir on 19/11/2004 09:34:34

Originally by: Lansfear

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THis topic is about a year and a half old. Ca still say they are not pirates, and I agree they are not. They are just pvper's that shoot anything not blue, anywhere in eve. Oh, wait.......

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You just said "CA are pirates" but used two sentences to say it.

Fair enough, your justification is that we are pvper's that shoot anything not blue, anywhere in eve. I suggest you think about that statement and the logistics of it and the difficulties inherent in shooting 'anything' that is not blue 'anywhere' in EVE.

Further, have a look around at the many pvp corporations around and how they react to a 'non-blue target' when they are hunting. By your statement, you label a lot of (not all) pvp corporations in EVE to be 'pirates' and having a quick look at your kill statistics, I see a lot of kills spread out around empire and 0.0 space.

Lanfear, is Dirty Deeds Corp a pvp corp or a pirate corp? What differentiates DDC from the pvp corps in CA?

Edit: One more question for you Lan , do you consider m0o, EVOL, ATUK, BNC or Reikoku to be pirates? Do you consider a corp that brings a group of ex-pirates into their ranks a pirate corp? If a corp or alliance chose to ally themselves with any of these corporations/pilots, would that mean that this corporation or alliance would also be considered a 'pirate' group?

Answering yes to these questions would (by your description of pirates) seem to make you a pirate.

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Originally by: Vladstamir

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Edited by: Vladstamir on 19/11/2004 10:16:58
Edited by: Vladstamir on 19/11/2004 09:34:34

Originally by: Lansfear

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THis topic is about a year and a half old. Ca still say they are not pirates, and I agree they are not. They are just pvper's that shoot anything not blue, anywhere in eve. Oh, wait.......

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You just said "CA are pirates" but used two sentences to say it.

Fair enough, your justification is that we are pvper's that shoot anything not blue, anywhere in eve. I suggest you think about that statement and the logistics of it and the difficulties inherent in shooting 'anything' that is not blue 'anywhere' in EVE.

Further, have a look around at the many pvp corporations around and how they react to a 'non-blue target' when they are hunting. By your statement, you label a lot of (not all) pvp corporations in EVE to be 'pirates' and having a quick look at your kill statistics, I see a lot of kills spread out around empire and 0.0 space.

Lanfear, is Dirty Deeds Corp a pvp corp or a pirate corp? What differentiates DDC from the pvp corps in CA?

Edit: One more question for you Lan , do you consider m0o, EVOL, ATUK, BNC or Reikoku to be pirates? Do you consider a corp that brings a group of ex-pirates into their ranks a pirate corp? If a corp or alliance chose to ally themselves with any of these corporations/pilots, would that mean that this corporation or alliance would also be considered a 'pirate' group?

Answering yes to these questions would (by your description of pirates) seem to make you a pirate.

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Originally by: Shiwan Khan

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Okey Okey now we are going into smack-talk

Oh and name a pirate corp that we support.

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Corp 1.

Any more crap you'd like to fling around?

Originally by: Shiwan Khan

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Okey Okey now we are going into smack-talk

Oh and name a pirate corp that we support.

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Corp 1.

Any more crap you'd like to fling around?

Originally by: Lallante

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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Originally by: Lallante

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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Originally by: Lansfear

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Originally by: Lallante

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Quote:

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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You have got to be kidding! I know most CA corps are arrogent and full of ****, but this takes the cAKe! The rumors about you are so true.

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Originally by: Lansfear

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Originally by: Lallante

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Quote:

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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You have got to be kidding! I know most CA corps are arrogent and full of ****, but this takes the cAKe! The rumors about you are so true.

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Originally by: Lansfear

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Originally by: Lallante

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Quote:

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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You have got to be kidding! I know most CA corps are arrogent and full of ****, but this takes the cAKe! The rumors about you are so true.

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Originally by: Lansfear

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Originally by: Lallante

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Quote:

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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You have got to be kidding! I know most CA corps are arrogent and full of ****, but this takes the cAKe! The rumors about you are so true.

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Tell me one thing Shivan and Lina... how old are you?????

First of you haven't read all of the quots, because then you would know the the term "pirat" has been kicked out because of the many ways to look at PVP!

Second saying someone is stupid is really below me and dosen't give any serious input to the subject.

You talk like when my two kids fight with eachother.

Come on if U can't do better than this, then don't quote at all!

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Originally by: Nivlartar

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Tell me one thing Shivan and Lina... how old are you?????

First of you haven't read all of the quots, because then you would know the the term "pirat" has been kicked out because of the many ways to look at PVP!

Second saying someone is stupid is really below me and dosen't give any serious input to the subject.

You talk like when my two kids fight with eachother.

Come on if U can't do better than this, then don't quote at all!

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Originally by: Lansfear

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Originally by: Lallante

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Quote:

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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You have got to be kidding! I know most CA corps are arrogent and full of ****, but this takes the cAKe! The rumors about you are so true.

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Lansf I guess we missed that memo.......

Oh and be nice with the CA ppl they arent all that bad ....

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Originally by: Lansfear

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Originally by: Lallante

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Quote:

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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You have got to be kidding! I know most CA corps are arrogent and full of ****, but this takes the cAKe! The rumors about you are so true.

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Lansf I guess we missed that memo.......

Oh and be nice with the CA ppl they arent all that bad ....

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Originally by: Lallante

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Quote:

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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Obviously you didnt get the humor in that post.... ahwell such is life some get it some dont.

But I still havent seen a shinra in weeks and Ive been floating around "our" space for quite some time hmm maybe the just went to bed or something when I logged on. Im not going to drag this down to a mud slinging contest Ill say it right now you win and as Sally says kill boards mean nothing.

But it is obvious as well you didnt read all the posts since you have to light a torch to respond.

Suffice it to say you play the game your way, we'll play our way.

I can just see the flame response now but meh you know what they say about children being children.

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Originally by: Kythanis

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Originally by: Lallante

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Quote:

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Hmmm maybe we'll go spank you some more you seem to enjoy it so much its a wonder you can field anything more then a cruiser these days.

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Your kidding me right? Im half tempted to start posting killmails! We spent a week in your space, at the end of which your CEO told all members to retreat to XETIC space to, and I quote "recover our losses".

We have liek a 8:1 ratio against you ffs, lets not take the ****.

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Obviously you didnt get the humor in that post.... ahwell such is life some get it some dont.

But I still havent seen a shinra in weeks and Ive been floating around "our" space for quite some time hmm maybe the just went to bed or something when I logged on. Im not going to drag this down to a mud slinging contest Ill say it right now you win and as Sally says kill boards mean nothing.

But it is obvious as well you didnt read all the posts since you have to light a torch to respond.

Suffice it to say you play the game your way, we'll play our way.

I can just see the flame response now but meh you know what they say about children being children.

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Hey Guys, as you might have noticed, we have gained a few new faces to the corp in the last couple days This definitely helps in our war effort

This war has put a bit of a burden on some members regarding isk and battleships. I would like to fix that by moving the entire corp for 4-7 days to our Impass base. Let us mine the sit out of ark/bis and get people rolling in cash again. Then we can come back to esa and deal with Shinra and Corp 1 some more. I have 1 other reason for this, it will **** off shinra and corp 1

I would like to do this move starting on Monday, Sept 20th, unless something changes between then and now. If you don't have bookmarks to go out there, start asking for them.

If your not interested in makin a few isk, you can stay in esa or join TNT

Steel Rat

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Hey Guys, as you might have noticed, we have gained a few new faces to the corp in the last couple days This definitely helps in our war effort

This war has put a bit of a burden on some members regarding isk and battleships. I would like to fix that by moving the entire corp for 4-7 days to our Impass base. Let us mine the sit out of ark/bis and get people rolling in cash again. Then we can come back to esa and deal with Shinra and Corp 1 some more. I have 1 other reason for this, it will **** off shinra and corp 1

I would like to do this move starting on Monday, Sept 20th, unless something changes between then and now. If you don't have bookmarks to go out there, start asking for them.

If your not interested in makin a few isk, you can stay in esa or join TNT

Steel Rat

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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan

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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 20/11/2004 16:00:47
How is that different from VOTF mining ark for days on end? Or a CA corp being pushed back to .8 space to mine scordite? Same as any regional alliance

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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan

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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 20/11/2004 16:00:47
How is that different from VOTF mining ark for days on end? Or a CA corp being pushed back to .8 space to mine scordite? Same as any regional alliance

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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan

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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 20/11/2004 16:00:47
How is that different from VOTF mining ark for days on end? Or a CA corp being pushed back to .8 space to mine scordite? Same as any regional alliance

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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan

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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 20/11/2004 16:00:47
How is that different from VOTF mining ark for days on end? Or a CA corp being pushed back to .8 space to mine scordite? Same as any regional alliance

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Originally by: Lansfear

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Originally by: Vladstamir

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Edited by: Vladstamir on 19/11/2004 10:16:58
Edited by: Vladstamir on 19/11/2004 09:34:34

Originally by: Lansfear

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THis topic is about a year and a half old. Ca still say they are not pirates, and I agree they are not. They are just pvper's that shoot anything not blue, anywhere in eve. Oh, wait.......

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You just said "CA are pirates" but used two sentences to say it.

Fair enough, your justification is that we are pvper's that shoot anything not blue, anywhere in eve. I suggest you think about that statement and the logistics of it and the difficulties inherent in shooting 'anything' that is not blue 'anywhere' in EVE.

Further, have a look around at the many pvp corporations around and how they react to a 'non-blue target' when they are hunting. By your statement, you label a lot of (not all) pvp corporations in EVE to be 'pirates' and having a quick look at your kill statistics, I see a lot of kills spread out around empire and 0.0 space.

Lanfear, is Dirty Deeds Corp a pvp corp or a pirate corp? What differentiates DDC from the pvp corps in CA?

Edit: One more question for you Lan , do you consider m0o, EVOL, ATUK, BNC or Reikoku to be pirates? Do you consider a corp that brings a group of ex-pirates into their ranks a pirate corp? If a corp or alliance chose to ally themselves with any of these corporations/pilots, would that mean that this corporation or alliance would also be considered a 'pirate' group?

Answering yes to these questions would (by your description of pirates) seem to make you a pirate.

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Vlad, I'll give you a very clear defined difference between DDC and Pirates.

1. We do *NOT* shoot neutral corps. If its a neutral corp they are free to fly past, NPC hunt, mine, whatever, as long as they are not harrasing the peaceful corps in Provadance.

Can you say the same?

2. We have and will accept EX-Pirates into DDC, and you know what, they have no problems not shooting everyhting that moves. We have 6 wars and actively hunt known pirate corps in the Provadance region.

You people that say piracy is dead are full of ****.

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Originally by: Lansfear

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Originally by: Vladstamir

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Edited by: Vladstamir on 19/11/2004 10:16:58
Edited by: Vladstamir on 19/11/2004 09:34:34

Originally by: Lansfear

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THis topic is about a year and a half old. Ca still say they are not pirates, and I agree they are not. They are just pvper's that shoot anything not blue, anywhere in eve. Oh, wait.......

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You just said "CA are pirates" but used two sentences to say it.

Fair enough, your justification is that we are pvper's that shoot anything not blue, anywhere in eve. I suggest you think about that statement and the logistics of it and the difficulties inherent in shooting 'anything' that is not blue 'anywhere' in EVE.

Further, have a look around at the many pvp corporations around and how they react to a 'non-blue target' when they are hunting. By your statement, you label a lot of (not all) pvp corporations in EVE to be 'pirates' and having a quick look at your kill statistics, I see a lot of kills spread out around empire and 0.0 space.

Lanfear, is Dirty Deeds Corp a pvp corp or a pirate corp? What differentiates DDC from the pvp corps in CA?

Edit: One more question for you Lan , do you consider m0o, EVOL, ATUK, BNC or Reikoku to be pirates? Do you consider a corp that brings a group of ex-pirates into their ranks a pirate corp? If a corp or alliance chose to ally themselves with any of these corporations/pilots, would that mean that this corporation or alliance would also be considered a 'pirate' group?

Answering yes to these questions would (by your description of pirates) seem to make you a pirate.

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Vlad, I'll give you a very clear defined difference between DDC and Pirates.

1. We do *NOT* shoot neutral corps. If its a neutral corp they are free to fly past, NPC hunt, mine, whatever, as long as they are not harrasing the peaceful corps in Provadance.

Can you say the same?

2. We have and will accept EX-Pirates into DDC, and you know what, they have no problems not shooting everyhting that moves. We have 6 wars and actively hunt known pirate corps in the Provadance region.

You people that say piracy is dead are full of ****.

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