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Vhiskey
Caldari Imperial Forces
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Posted - 2010.01.02 12:31:00 -
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the higher i get that skill the longer it takes to get in warp because of the max sub-warp velocity bonus?
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Estel Arador
Minmatar Estel Arador Corp Services
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Posted - 2010.01.02 13:43:00 -
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Nope, how long it takes to accelerate only depends on Mass and the Inertia Modifier, not on top speed. The Evelopedia article even includes an example with a freighter getting ready to warp 
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Vhiskey
Caldari Imperial Forces
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Posted - 2010.01.02 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Estel Arador Nope, how long it takes to accelerate only depends on Mass and the Inertia Modifier, not on top speed. The Evelopedia article even includes an example with a freighter getting ready to warp 
nice answer. so that means that the freighter skill does not only increase top speed but also acceleration
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Fenren
Minmatar Bure Astro Photography
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Posted - 2010.01.02 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vhiskey
Originally by: Estel Arador Nope, how long it takes to accelerate only depends on Mass and the Inertia Modifier, not on top speed. The Evelopedia article even includes an example with a freighter getting ready to warp 
nice answer. so that means that the freighter skill does not only increase top speed but also acceleration
no it means that in eve, it will always take the same time to reach max speed, no matter what it is as long as inertia and mass is the same. that is why you accelerate so slowly when webbed
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FroschForscher
Caldari The German Star-Fighters United European Star-Force
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Posted - 2010.01.05 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: Fenren
Originally by: Vhiskey
Originally by: Estel Arador Nope, how long it takes to accelerate only depends on Mass and the Inertia Modifier, not on top speed. The Evelopedia article even includes an example with a freighter getting ready to warp 
nice answer. so that means that the freighter skill does not only increase top speed but also acceleration
no it means that in eve, it will always take the same time to reach max speed, no matter what it is as long as inertia and mass is the same. that is why you accelerate so slowly when webbed
but if my max speed increases AND the time to reach that max speed stays the same, i HAVE TO acclerate faster, havent i?
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Gabriel Rosencrantz
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Posted - 2010.01.05 19:38:00 -
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Quote: Two ships with identical masses and Inertial Modifiers but different top speeds will reach their respective top speeds in the same period. This means a faster (greater top speed) ship will have a higher acceleration in ms^-2 but will take the same time to reach, for example, the speed required to use warp engines.
There two different things being discussed: one is the time to warp and the other is speed of acceleration. As the information above shows, it is irrelevant to the time to warp. In essence, it doesn't matter how long it takes to get to whatever speed, since warp is initiated at 75% of the total. BUT, if we both were sitting still outside a station, we needed to get into docking range, and your max velocity was higher than mine, you would get there first.
BTW time to warp can be improved with Rogue AY-0/1/2 and Evasive Manuevering, Spc Shp Comm, and Adv Spc Shp Comm. If you want to put your freighter to work, join Red Frog Freight. |

Dretzle Omega
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.01.05 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: FroschForscher
Originally by: Fenren
Originally by: Vhiskey
Originally by: Estel Arador Nope, how long it takes to accelerate only depends on Mass and the Inertia Modifier, not on top speed. The Evelopedia article even includes an example with a freighter getting ready to warp 
nice answer. so that means that the freighter skill does not only increase top speed but also acceleration
no it means that in eve, it will always take the same time to reach max speed, no matter what it is as long as inertia and mass is the same. that is why you accelerate so slowly when webbed
but if my max speed increases AND the time to reach that max speed stays the same, i HAVE TO acclerate faster, havent i?
The quoted artcile says:
Originally by: Evelopedia Two ships with identical masses and Inertial Modifiers but different top speeds will reach their respective top speeds in the same period. This means a faster (greater top speed) ship will have a higher acceleration in ms^-2 but will take the same time to reach, for example, the speed required to use warp engines.
So yes, given the same mass and intertia modifier, greater top speed means greater overall acceleration, but same time to warp.
Originally by: Akita T BTW, if you see God when you're clutching for your chest due to sudden realization you have no chance to get out of this with your wallet intact tell him he still owes me money
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:25:00 -
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Edited by: Tau Cabalander on 05/01/2010 22:28:04
Agility reduces the inertial modifier, so it takes less time to reach any given speed, and meaning you reach warp speed faster too.
Skills that affect the agility of a freighter: * Spaceship Command * Advanced Spaceship Command * Evasive Maneuvering
Agility implants (notably the 'Nomad' pirate set) also help.
There is also an implant to increase warp speed, as freighters are quite slow in warp (0.75)
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Barbicane
TGUN Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.06 11:19:00 -
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This is somewhat off topic, but if you want to get into warp faster you could also look into getting a jump freighter. They can be used like normal freighters but have much higher agility, meaning they align and warp faster.
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Emissary Bartoque
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Posted - 2010.01.07 19:53:00 -
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Edited by: Emissary Bartoque on 07/01/2010 19:54:03
Originally by: Barbicane This is somewhat off topic, but if you want to get into warp faster you could also look into getting a jump freighter. They can be used like normal freighters but have much higher agility, meaning they align and warp faster.
And have something like 30% the cargo capacity... Oh and cost 5x as much
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Dretzle Omega
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.01.07 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Barbicane This is somewhat off topic, but if you want to get into warp faster you could also look into getting a jump freighter. They can be used like normal freighters but have much higher agility, meaning they align and warp faster.
I believe the Orca is the smaller, faster freighter you are looking for.
Unfortunately, different skill set required.
Originally by: Akita T BTW, if you see God when you're clutching for your chest due to sudden realization you have no chance to get out of this with your wallet intact tell him he still owes me money
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Rotnac
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.08 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Emissary Bartoque Edited by: Emissary Bartoque on 07/01/2010 19:54:03
Originally by: Barbicane This is somewhat off topic, but if you want to get into warp faster you could also look into getting a jump freighter. They can be used like normal freighters but have much higher agility, meaning they align and warp faster.
And have something like 30% the cargo capacity... Oh and cost 5x as much
Yeah, you're buying them for the jump capability, not the agility increase.
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