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Isonone
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Posted - 2010.01.06 11:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Avernus
Probably an unwelcome observation, and likely been said already, but with the very recent experiences NC has had jumping into a grid with a hostile fleet present, I don't know why anyone thought it would be different in this case before CCP has implemented a fix.
Reimbursement is an issue here that I don't care about, and has zero effect on me either way... but the PL FC needs his head examined to order a jump-in like that in the current conditions. It is a one way trip. Simply put, with all the NC advertising about how the server has been reacting, it was an ignorant decision.
So you are saying that they should have left as it was and not tried to fight? Since when this game became "who ever blobs the system first, wins"? And since when players have to take in to consideration of the bugs and issues in a product they PAY for in order to use it?!! Or are we all beta testers that pay for the "pleasure of beta testing"...? The thing that happend in Y-2 was not a fight it was not a PvP ( Player Versus Player ), it was more like mining. You put the lasers on to the dead rock ( ships ) and mine them out. I wouldn't be proud if I won a "fight" like that. All those incidents that happend after dominion in such fights should be reimbursted, no matter who won or lost the ships. This is a serious issue, and things like "it's not showing in our logs" is simply unacceptable. Next time you might be on the recieving end and see how you feel about it... Even if they jumped on different grids and they loaded the system, at some point they would have warped to the TCU and you would face the same problem alot of ppl trying to load grid.
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Isonone
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Posted - 2010.01.06 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kriger
All caod/troll heaven bs aside.. the lag is in fact a real issue, and everyone is gonna get screwed over by this sooner or later if CCP doesn't fix it. Finger pointing and statements like 'its your own fault', 'hypocrisy', 'exploit', 'irony' and what not wont fix it, though entertaining for obvious reasons. It went our way this time - next time it might be the other way around. Regardless of allegiances, im pretty sure all can agree it sucks, and CCP should get this sorted asap.
Respect to you dude. At last someone from IT that is not some kind of ignorant hater or something.
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Isonone
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Bulgarian Mafia Squad
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Posted - 2010.01.06 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Isonone
So you are saying that they should have left as it was and not tried to fight?
No, he's saying that you should have followed the advice given to you by your allies. By all means get in to system, use deep safe cyno's and don't jump all to the SAME one.
In this hilarious instance the enemy managed to lag and crash THEMSElVES out by everyone doing a man train to the same cyno. Had you listened to your NC allies you'd have all got in (minus a few expected losses) and could have commenced the fight.
But you were lazy and you paid for it.
Did you actually read the entire post I made or did you not see:
"Even if they jumped on different grids and they loaded the system, at some point they would have warped to the TCU and you would face the same problem alot of ppl trying to load grid."
Or did you expect they would land on TCU grid in waves of 50 ppl, with 4 min between every warp so you can kill them before the next wave arrives? Like one of those games where you fight monsters that arrive every 2 mins? 
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Isonone
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Posted - 2010.01.06 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Le Cardinal
Originally by: Isonone
Did you actually read the entire post I made or did you not see:
Not really neccessary to read it. You know post dominion servers are fail and they are trying o fix it. You knew node wasnt reinforced. You knew NC had same problem vs Atlas. NC warned you against doing it. SOT failed in transfering station. And you and allies could have gotten ppl in there during other ours had you put a little effort in doing it. TZ excuses are fail and to sum it all up its your own fault.
So they/we know there are issues with the servers...what was your suggestion to the problem?
Node could not be reinforced since CCP needs 1 DT to do that, and the TCU goes online in 12h...
SOT failed to transfer station...make that BPM failed to do that since they were the corp to hold the SOV there... on behalf of SOT.
Putting ppl there during other ours? Is this a joke? How exactly do you think this can happend, when the whole "fight" began during early US TZ? Maybe ppl should wake up in 5 in the morning to move ships there and than go to sleep again...till 9 in the morning ( for example ) when the "battle" should start...? I'm sure you would suggest they try to sneak in thru the gates with heavy BSs and cross their fingers they don't get killed on the entrance to the system...
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Isonone
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Bulgarian Mafia Squad
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2010.01.06 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Le Cardinal
Originally by: Isonone
So they/we know there are issues with the servers...what was your suggestion to the problem?
Node could not be reinforced since CCP needs 1 DT to do that, and the TCU goes online in 12h...
SOT failed to transfer station...make that BPM failed to do that since they were the corp to hold the SOV there... on behalf of SOT.
Putting ppl there during other ours? Is this a joke? How exactly do you think this can happend, when the whole "fight" began during early US TZ? Maybe ppl should wake up in 5 in the morning to move ships there and than go to sleep again...till 9 in the morning ( for example ) when the "battle" should start...? I'm sure you would suggest they try to sneak in thru the gates with heavy BSs and cross their fingers they don't get killed on the entrance to the system...
You are confirming what i say really. Its your own fault. BPM failed to transfer the SOT station. It was weekend. It was very late for euros (me included) but we stuck with it. Its called commitment. I had 4 hours sleep before i had to get up with my son  I was 5 mins from logging when it all broke lose!, but thats a digression. No you could have bridged in ppl during the day/night, not all in one go. We managed to.
Are you playing dumb or smth? When the SOV dropped it was in mid day for euros...you had 12 hours to move all ppl in the system, IT moved 90% forces in that period of time. US TZ guys had alot less time to get their things done... So we now have to think about all the crap that dominion and CCP brought us, and possible issues we might face, some game this is...fun fun fun...If I wanted to apply for lab mouse I will let CCP know...until then I expect to PLAY the game that I pay for the way it was supposed to be plaid thank you very much. Beware next time the lab mouse might be you...
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Isonone
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Bulgarian Mafia Squad
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2010.01.06 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
words...
Grow a brain or smth, it might be useful...or I don't know...
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Isonone
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Bulgarian Mafia Squad
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2010.01.06 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Le Cardinal
words
We/they chose to play the game they paid for...CCP failed to deliver what they are getting paid for. Simple as that. They/we complain we didn't get what we paid for, and the customers don't care if someone fed the hamsters or not. That is CCP to take care after, hence the monthly fee players pay... this is not just a case of 1 guy lagging or not being able to play, because his ISP might have bad connection issues. This is a case of 700 ppl not being able to play, because of bugs and issues that the provider of this service didn't fix. Did you not get it, or you don't want to get it..? If there is a issue with the safety of a newly sold car, the car maker recalls the cars and fixes the issue before someone gets hurt and sues their ass out of it... The fact that this is a game does not change anything, players still pay for it and they expect customer service and quality.
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Isonone
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Bulgarian Mafia Squad
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2010.01.06 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Isonone on 06/01/2010 16:23:34
Originally by: Nahia Senne
Originally by: Isonone
excuses
Your imaginary world is unfortunately far removed from reality. The stunt has failed, servers didn't crash, you lost. You can deal with it or you can keep shifting the blame.
Now, please stop embarrassing your alliance. Its becoming so pathetic, i cant even derive any joy from trolling you.
If they wanted to crash the servers, they could of used 700 drakes to jump in and get the job done. I don't know who is embarrassing who, but I do feel sorry for the few normal guys in your alliance. To have to play with dumb fscks like you and the rest of the ignorant pricks is pretty bad...One day you will be the one that gets the middle finger, see how you like it than...
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