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dracice Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.01.03 19:23:00 - [301] fact is, im glad your grid failed. i hope all your future grids fail and I hope any other grids you are on never ever load. deal with it.
Trebor Notlimah Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici	Posted - 2010.01.03 19:25:00 - [302] Haha. You lost your titans. And your Goon members have the nerve to complain that it wasn't a fight?!?!?! It was a better fight than disbanding BOB I assure you -- and there was FRAPS goodness. Yea I just fap'd to it. Not even gonna lie. And your tears taste like old hamburger. Try eating some fruits and veggies every once and awhile. Be well!
Varesk Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2010.01.03 19:25:00 - [303] Originally by: SpongeSlog Originally by: Varesk Why dont you all log in to the test server and help CCP fix this problem, go to general discussion and read the "Lag Monster" thread. If CCP agreed to let me play for free then I would agree to Beta test their crappy code and fix their completely broken QA testing process that allowed a piece of **** like Dominion be released in the first place. There "Crappy" QA testing is crappy because people like you cannot get your own e-peen out of your ass and log in to test new code. There were many Tests pre-dominion on the test server. Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in.
dracice Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.01.03 19:28:00 - [304] could i get you guys to help me on kg, they say i **** post when i bring up pl/goon transgressions of the past.
SpongeSlog Caldari Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.03 19:29:00 - [305] Originally by: Varesk Originally by: SpongeSlog Originally by: Varesk Why dont you all log in to the test server and help CCP fix this problem, go to general discussion and read the "Lag Monster" thread. If CCP agreed to let me play for free then I would agree to Beta test their crappy code and fix their completely broken QA testing process that allowed a piece of **** like Dominion be released in the first place. There "Crappy" QA testing is crappy because people like you cannot get your own e-peen out of your ass and log in to test new code. There were many Tests pre-dominion on the test server. Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in. There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them.
Sergeant Shafto Caldari BulletProof Monks	Posted - 2010.01.03 19:29:00 - [306] Originally by: dracice did sot fail cascade over IT? hurley? or both... seems alot of people once they found out how the hurley incident went down didn't like it. SOT fail cascaded because it had no leadership. 1. For first couple weeks of invasion 99% of SOT members were keen and excited about fighting, but no leadership, despite having some great FCs, meant barely any ops and eventually players and corps got fed up with lack of anything at all. 2. 99% of members didn't really give a sh*t about Hurley, I didn't because I never once saw him in any fleet, or ever see him talk in chat, ever.
Varesk Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators	Posted - 2010.01.03 19:34:00 - [307] Originally by: SpongeSlog Originally by: Varesk Originally by: SpongeSlog Originally by: Varesk Why dont you all log in to the test server and help CCP fix this problem, go to general discussion and read the "Lag Monster" thread. If CCP agreed to let me play for free then I would agree to Beta test their crappy code and fix their completely broken QA testing process that allowed a piece of **** like Dominion be released in the first place. There "Crappy" QA testing is crappy because people like you cannot get your own e-peen out of your ass and log in to test new code. There were many Tests pre-dominion on the test server. Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in. There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them. Wow, since you know how they test, you should have logged in to the test server to help them.
dracice Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.01.03 19:35:00 - [308] ok so you were just blowing a comb in the mean while whilst everyone was blue.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.01.03 19:36:00 - [309] Originally by: SpongeSlog There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them. hahaha oh please, spare us the crocodile tears about server performance you guys have happily used lag and node crashes deliberately to gain advantage many times in the past - deal with it (or carry on weeping and entertain us) ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Thesalaus Amarr Battlestars GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.03 19:39:00 - [310] Shafto is 100% accurate here. Originally by: Sergeant Shafto Originally by: dracice did sot fail cascade over IT? hurley? or both... seems alot of people once they found out how the hurley incident went down didn't like it. SOT fail cascaded because it had no leadership. 1. For first couple weeks of invasion 99% of SOT members were keen and excited about fighting, but no leadership, despite having some great FCs, meant barely any ops and eventually players and corps got fed up with lack of anything at all. 2. 99% of members didn't really give a sh*t about Hurley, I didn't because I never once saw him in any fleet, or ever see him talk in chat, ever.
Mazerati Minmatar Nitro Corp Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.01.03 20:01:00 - [311] Originally by: Varesk Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in. I understand the frustration this kind of thing causes. And even somewhat sympathise with those it affects (been there, done that). But there simply isn't sufficient incentive to entice players to log into a test server. In ANY game. If they want people to log in to test, they should hire paid testers. Or at the very least, provide sufficient reason for paying subscribers to do it (paying subscribers simply don't want to bother with testing something they're paying a subscription for without some incentive to make it worth their trouble). Perhaps one way would be to offer free live play in exchange for testing time. Like a 50/50 system. Test for a day, get a free day of live play. And in times of mass tester need, implement some sort of mechanically forced "cease fire" against space those testers hold on the live server, where nothing in their space can be attacked while they're logged into the test server. That way, theres no worry about anyone "unfairly taking advantage" because no one, or too few, are around to defend.
prizum Caldari Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.03 20:04:00 - [312] sniping page 11 or 12. Hate the lag, love the dead titans.
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.01.03 20:07:00 - [313] Originally by: prizum sniping page 11 or 12. Hate the lag, love the dead titans. No, this is how you snipe Twitter:@genrlwindypops Facebook profile Rate my posting
dracice Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition	Posted - 2010.01.03 20:08:00 - [314] with the thread rolling this fast its hard to tell. and since u gotta wait 5 minutes, while your waiting to post and not refreshing, alot can go by. so sniping a fast moving thread would take planning.
prizum Caldari Nex Exercitus IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.03 20:16:00 - [315] ok, spraying and praying at page 11 or 12, better?
Tzujeih Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.03 20:23:00 - [316] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: SpongeSlog There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them. hahaha oh please, spare us the crocodile tears about server performance you guys have happily used lag and node crashes deliberately to gain advantage many times in the past - deal with it (or carry on weeping and entertain us) i herd u like pinatas so i made u dis: EXTREME PINATA DIRTBIKE BOWLING
CAOD Ambition Gallente Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2010.01.03 20:26:00 - [317] Originally by: Tzujeih Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: SpongeSlog There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them. hahaha oh please, spare us the crocodile tears about server performance you guys have happily used lag and node crashes deliberately to gain advantage many times in the past - deal with it (or carry on weeping and entertain us) i herd u like pinatas so i made u dis: EXTREME PINATA DIRTBIKE BOWLING I am going to now spend 5 hours reading all your posts so I can fap at your main,.. -- "if at first you don't succeed, call NC!" Or rather, if you fail all the time, call NC,..
Vengeance Raze Minmatar Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.03 20:41:00 - [318] Edited by: Vengeance Raze on 03/01/2010 20:41:41 Originally by: Marlona Sky Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Itshouldbeanexploitto Fresh batch of tear incoming guys!!! Some of the content in this thread made me smile, however, out of all of the posts in this thread, this one won a real life lol.
Kaiwhakawa Tumuaki Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.03 20:46:00 - [319] Originally by: Varesk There "Crappy" QA testing is crappy because people like you cannot get your own e-peen out of your ass and log in to test new code. There were many Tests pre-dominion on the test server. Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in. None of the features released in dominion 1.00 were the same as they were in sisi. Because players knew that things tried in sisi were going to be changed in the dominion release, there was no reason to test things in sisi. Oh wait some of the features from sisi were included in dominion; sbus, tcus and outposts that were vulnerable to attack when they were "invulnerable". The problem wasnt the lack of people willing to test; It was the rubbish code we were being asked to test, and the lack of acknowledgement of feedback to those of us who did test sisi out. Anyway back to OP topic; hahahahahahah will x up again - just to be in a fleet where dbrb shuts the hell up.
Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.03 22:10:00 - [320] Edited by: Gwyneira Vulva''Mae on 03/01/2010 22:14:46 Originally by: Vengeance Raze Edited by: Vengeance Raze on 03/01/2010 20:41:41 Originally by: Marlona Sky Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Itshouldbeanexploitto Fresh batch of tear incoming guys!!! Some of the content in this thread made me smile, however, out of all of the posts in this thread, this one won a real life lol. if the tables were turned we would be crowing about your hilarious losses, and you would be accusing us of this and that and petitioning your losses. The schadenfreude is strong, as always, but I don't see how anyone can defend the status quo from a game design perspective. I wasn't accusing IT of exploiting; I was saying that with no hope on the horizon of dynamic node reinforcement that doesn't require downtime, I really don't see how else CCP could fix the problem. The only way a system like Y-2 could be defended would be if it was reinforced; the only way it could have been reinforced is if IT voluntarily petitioned it in advance. As important as the first day is under the new sovereignty mechanics it should be obvious that something needs another look here. As much as both sides here love to see the other get a broomstick snapped off in the ass, you have to be ******ed to look at the status quo and believe that this is how the game should play out. I'm sure you've got a few people in your alliance who'd have preferred a fight where the targets shot back, though they're probably not your designated forum warriors. Alternatively CCP could just get rid of the daily downtime, and we could sov4 every vulnerable system with 600 docked afk trial accounts.
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.01.03 22:12:00 - [321] Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Originally by: Vengeance Raze Edited by: Vengeance Raze on 03/01/2010 20:41:41 Originally by: Marlona Sky Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Itshouldbeanexploitto Fresh batch of tear incoming guys!!! Some of the content in this thread made me smile, however, out of all of the posts in this thread, this one won a real life lol. if the tables were turned we would be crowing about your hilarious losses, and you would be accusing us of this and that and petitioning your losses. The schadenfreude is strong, as always, but I don't see how anyone can defend the status quo from a game design perspective. I wasn't accusing IT of exploiting; I was saying that with no hope on the horizon of dynamic node reinforcement that doesn't require downtime, I really don't see how else CCP could fix the problem. The only way a system like Y-2 could be defended would be if it was reinforced; the only way it could have been reinforced is if IT voluntarily petitioned it in advance. As important as the first day is under the new sovereignty mechanics it should be obvious that something needs another look here. As much as both sides here love to see the other get a broomstick snapped off in the ass, you have to be ******ed to look at the status quo and believe that this is how the game should play out. Alternatively CCP could just get rid of the daily downtime, and we could sov4 every vulnerable system with 600 docked afk trial accounts. Oh well, you'll always have JV1V Twitter:@genrlwindypops Facebook profile Rate my posting
Thunder1971 Caldari Virtual Warriors IMPERIAL LEGI0N	Posted - 2010.01.03 22:13:00 - [322] This is what CCP calls their issue in the news. "their fleet was disarrayed by a spatial distortion"...Nice workaround. Now perhaps a functioning code to fix that "Spatial distortion"? Then we can all play the game again like it is advertised. At the end of the day everybody will end up on the sucky side of this fail one day. "comrades in arms know the meaning of true friendship".
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.01.03 22:18:00 - [323] Originally by: Thunder1971 This is what CCP calls their issue in the news. "their fleet was disarrayed by a spatial distortion"...Nice workaround. Now perhaps a functioning code to fix that "Spatial distortion"? Then we can all play the game again like it is advertised. At the end of the day everybody will end up on the sucky side of this fail one day. You're right, it was CCP that forced the FC to decide that was the best time to jump in. It was CCP that decided the best course of action was to let IT build up steadily throughout the day rather than trying to make a beachhead. There's NO WAY that what happened to the NC twice in a row would EVER happen to them, right? Twitter:@genrlwindypops Facebook profile Rate my posting
Helen Highwater Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.03 22:24:00 - [324] Originally by: Butter Dog Sorry - I must have missed the part where there was a dark, invisible force, which prevented you entering the system during the day and building up your forces like IT did, so you wouldn't have to jump in en-masse at the last possible moment. Poor you How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another. -------------------------------------------------------------- Let's not and say we did.
Lord WarATron Amarr Shadow Warri0rs	Posted - 2010.01.03 22:26:00 - [325] Bee's upset over loosing their hive? -- Billion Isk Mission
Fenix Zealot Caldari Aeon Of Strife	Posted - 2010.01.03 22:30:00 - [326] Originally by: Helen Highwater Originally by: Butter Dog Sorry - I must have missed the part where there was a dark, invisible force, which prevented you entering the system during the day and building up your forces like IT did, so you wouldn't have to jump in en-masse at the last possible moment. Poor you How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another. Should have held the station better then =p
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.01.03 22:31:00 - [327] Originally by: Lord WarATron Bee's upset over loosing their hive? I know, I thought there was only supposed to be one queen per swarm, but these guys seem to be full of them. Twitter:@genrlwindypops Facebook profile Rate my posting
Ziley Amarr Altless Green Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.03 22:31:00 - [328] What ever happened to adapt or die? Clearly IT adapted so they didn't lose their entire cap fleet. PL was not so smart here....
Qeng Nuwen Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.03 22:32:00 - [329] Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Kick BTLS
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.01.03 22:39:00 - [330] Originally by: Helen Highwater How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another. I think it was Sun Tzu who said 'giveth awayeth the tactical advantage by ****ing upeth and failingz0r badly at pvp, and thou hast not the tactical advantage anymore - deal with it'. It was either Sun Tzu, Viper or Mr Miyagi, I can't remember which. You screwed up on so many levels last night I'm amazed you have the balls to whine. - Bragging wildly in advance of the fight about how hard you were going to own - The excruciating screw up in the handover of the system - Failing to retain numbers in system despite having hours to prepare - The genius FC who made the call to 'jump' despite huge amounts of evidence about what would happen You got what you deserved, and Goons have had ludicrous amounts of luck with this kind of lag before. Now, however, you're just the recipients of the biggest pasting in the history of Eve. Sorry, daniel-san :( Twitter:@genrlwindypops Facebook profile Rate my posting

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