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Jebb Jones
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:23:00 -
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Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
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Blooded Heromy
Caldari Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:25:00 -
[2]
BU HU HU HU, you want me to call the wambulance ?
Signature removed. Please review the forum rules or e-mail us with any questions - Petwraith |
Bedrock
Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:25:00 -
[3]
I encourage you to contract me your stuffs in 319.
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the Poet
Minmatar Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:25:00 -
[4]
u mad?
can i has your stuff?
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Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:25:00 -
[5]
Originally by: the Poet u mad?
can i has your stuff?
/signed *sips mojito* -------
Going to kill you in Dust 514 |
Ula Ofaenur
Minmatar Pilipino Corp Primary.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:25:00 -
[6]
Have to break my silence but very funny comment. Now you want us to stop playing the game? Just because you experience lag for the first time?
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roborock
Gallente The Pheonix Group
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:25:00 -
[7]
i pour out a 40 for my lost homies
or maybee it should be some sweet WINE
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Elise Randolph
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:25:00 -
[8]
Leaving with all 47 of my accounts if this does not get fixed.
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Tithia Jadetiger
Caldari United Systems Navy Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:28:00 -
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Pet alliances and their alts crowd into a system.
Wait for the enemy to show up.
Watch them freeze up trying to load grid.
Start shooting the frozen/lagged out ducks in a barrel.
This fight didn't look like anything in the EVE Dominion trailer video.
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Pudgy McFudge
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:28:00 -
[10]
Kick BTLS |
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Trishtan DeMore
Caldari Seraphin Technologies
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:29:00 -
[11]
I encourage you to get a grip. It happened a few times already with BS fleets. You knew it but STILL you commit all that stuff to it. Losing 5 titans to a clear outcome just lets me guess:
You didn't want those titans anyways!
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Jebb Jones
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:29:00 -
[12]
I have waited over 3 hours to load int Y-2?
CCP, am I dead???
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Zatharyn
Minmatar IG Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:29:00 -
[13]
This kinda reminds me of when Goons killed LV Baby titan in JV1V :P
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Frabba
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:30:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Kick BTLS
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Skilo
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:30:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
LMAO
Maybe next time don't spam local trying to crash node .... ok? ok?
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Miss Artica
Gallente Eternum Noctem Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:30:00 -
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Originally by: Tithia Jadetiger Pet alliances and their alts crowd into a system.
Wait for the enemy to show up.
Watch them freeze up trying to load grid.
Start shooting the frozen/lagged out ducks in a barrel.
This fight didn't look like anything in the EVE Dominion trailer video.
Is ZAF allowed to post on caod? i thought that right was reserved for goons...
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Kieselguhr Kid
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:31:00 -
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so here's what's going to happen if this doesn't get fixed:
1)every piece of 0.0 contestable space except Delve that can possibly be owned by a Euro TZ alliance will be, because under this system the first alliance to set up automatically wins
2)Delve will be invulnerable, not because we can set reinforcement timers for US TZ or anything but because we have a really big alliance and our 300 actives can leave 300 alts AFK in every contested system
this bodes well for the future of this game imo
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Waukesha
Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:31:00 -
[18]
hahahahahahahahaha
ha
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Lasakywa
Caldari Section XIII
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:31:00 -
[19]
Guys, WI.dot and Atlas tried this in geminate for the last month JUST FOR YOU, and you still jumped all these people : /
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zombu2
Caldari The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
BOO F**KING WHOOO if you wanna load teh grid tell your buddys to stop spamming local
you want a tissue???
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Akov Stohs
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:33:00 -
[21]
Originally by: Jebb Jones I have waited over 3 hours to load int Y-2?
CCP, am I dead???
Nope You're still fine
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airdefense
Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:33:00 -
[22]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
How does it feel now? ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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skulled
Minmatar Monkeytech
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:33:00 -
[23]
They will be reimbursed, like Shrike's 2nd or 3rd (?) titan.
I guarantee it.
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Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:34:00 -
[24]
Originally by: skulled They will be reimbursed, like Shrike's 2nd or 3rd (?) titan.
I guarantee it.
sry, nope -------
Going to kill you in Dust 514 |
Freelanc3r
Caldari H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:34:00 -
[25]
Originally by: the Poet u mad?
can i has your stuff?
Got quite a lot of it already in my cargohold.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: zombu2
if you wanna load teh grid tell your buddys to stop spamming local
I can see you are from maverick navy and don't have a clue, but do you want to represent IT/Kenny/w/e and suggest that the lag was from local chat window?
--- I spent 3 months in Delve, and all I got was a lousy Shrike mail
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Obirascor
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:35:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Kick BTLS
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thearrowofapollo
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:37:00 -
[28]
sorrry all i hear is WAH WAH WAH
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Bedrock
Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:37:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: zombu2
if you wanna load teh grid tell your buddys to stop spamming local
I can see you are from maverick navy and don't have a clue, but do you want to represent IT/Kenny/w/e and suggest that the lag was from local chat window?
Log back in!
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Noskire
Caldari Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:38:00 -
[30]
[ 2010.01.02 23:07:05 ] Noskire > and you REALLY don't want to jump into this system, trust me.
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BladeWielder
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:38:00 -
[31]
stop crying . . . .
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NAFnist
Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:39:00 -
[32]
goon tears, best tears
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zombu2
Caldari The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:39:00 -
[33]
Edited by: zombu2 on 03/01/2010 03:41:35
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: zombu2
if you wanna load teh grid tell your buddys to stop spamming local
I can see you are from maverick navy and don't have a clue, but do you want to represent IT/Kenny/w/e and suggest that the lag was from local chat window?
you know thats funny you mention that i just had a nice lil convo with GM Zhainius telling me the same thing you wouldn t have something to do with him huh
i smell cheat and i demand a official ccp investigation on that
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Jebb Jones
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:40:00 -
[34]
LOL
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=thearrowofapollo
Originally by: thearrowofapollo sorrry all i hear is WAH WAH WAH
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VonKaplanek III
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:41:00 -
[35]
you mad?
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skulled
Minmatar Monkeytech
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:41:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: skulled They will be reimbursed, like Shrike's 2nd or 3rd (?) titan.
I guarantee it.
sry, nope
The last person to say that was rather publicly embarrassed. Sure you want to go down that road?
Over half a trillion isks worth of titans was lost without people being able to load grid or move. Do you really think CCP will allow that to stand?
Lets see shall we?
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:41:00 -
[37]
CCP failed tonight?
And its different than any other night how?
...... well other than the fact you are on the receiving end now.
And I paid my 500M Goon application fee -- still no response....
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CraZyDudE2
Caldari Dodees Corp Green Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:42:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
yeh just encourage people to leave game coz your dumb enough to jump into a lag fest that you already new existed with the ---k up ccp created with dominion - Boo hoo hoo cry me a river
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Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:42:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Jebb Jones LOL
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=thearrowofapollo
Originally by: thearrowofapollo sorrry all i hear is WAH WAH WAH
Goon making fun of someone's killboard stats. This is the best thread ever. Ever. -------
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Bedrock
Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:42:00 -
[40]
Originally by: BladeWielder stop crying . . . .
NO!!! theyre so tasty.....nomnomnom
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Atherma
Gallente Nex Exercitus IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:44:00 -
[41]
u mad.
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Quince Dupree
Gallente H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:45:00 -
[42]
CCP didnt fail, PL failed
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BladeWielder
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:45:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Bedrock
Originally by: BladeWielder stop crying . . . .
NO!!! theyre so tasty.....nomnomnom
haha agreed i take it back i am enjoying the tears
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CR Wilder
Amarr Third Return Inc. Vanguard.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:46:00 -
[44]
Good job IT
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Massive Dragon
Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:46:00 -
[45]
Originally by: skulled
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: skulled They will be reimbursed, like Shrike's 2nd or 3rd (?) titan.
I guarantee it.
sry, nope
The last person to say that was rather publicly embarrassed. Sure you want to go down that road?
Over half a trillion isks worth of titans was lost without people being able to load grid or move. Do you really think CCP will allow that to stand?
Lets see shall we?
when i dont load grid i never get reimbursed... i dont see why you would be.
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Ula O****ur Have to break my silence but very funny comment. Now you want us to stop playing the game? Just because you experience lag for the first time?
He's Battlestars - normally the Blood Raiders are very good about offering a relatively lag-free ratting experience.
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:47:00 -
[47]
Originally by: skulled
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: skulled They will be reimbursed, like Shrike's 2nd or 3rd (?) titan.
I guarantee it.
sry, nope
The last person to say that was rather publicly embarrassed. Sure you want to go down that road?
Over half a trillion isks worth of titans was lost without people being able to load grid or move. Do you really think CCP will allow that to stand?
Lets see shall we?
Hmmmm.... Jumping into a system that you know is not reinforced, has over 1000 people in it to slug it out...
CCP better not reimburse. Everyone knew the risk and took it. I mean seriously, what did you think was going to happen??
Also, @ the goonie tears!!!!
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:48:00 -
[48]
Originally by: skulled
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: skulled They will be reimbursed, like Shrike's 2nd or 3rd (?) titan.
I guarantee it.
sry, nope
The last person to say that was rather publicly embarrassed. Sure you want to go down that road?
Over half a trillion isks worth of titans was lost without people being able to load grid or move. Do you really think CCP will allow that to stand?
Lets see shall we?
They won't get reimbursed.
The lag issues in fleet fights are not new, and we all know about lag in Dominion. If they reinburse the losses, they will have to retrospectively reiumburse all of NC's losses in Geminate against ATLAS too. And do so in any large, laggy fights going forward. It simply won't happen. Fact.
The precedent has already been set, and it wasn't set tonight. ----------
~bitter dog~
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Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:49:00 -
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Originally by: skulled Lets see shall we?
This one's my favorite, he's so warm and fuzzy, can I take him home with me? He needs my loving -------
Going to kill you in Dust 514 |
Weaselior
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:49:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
shut up pubbie
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skulled
Minmatar Monkeytech
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:51:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: skulled
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: skulled They will be reimbursed, like Shrike's 2nd or 3rd (?) titan.
I guarantee it.
sry, nope
The last person to say that was rather publicly embarrassed. Sure you want to go down that road?
Over half a trillion isks worth of titans was lost without people being able to load grid or move. Do you really think CCP will allow that to stand?
Lets see shall we?
They won't get reimbursed.
The lag issues in fleet fights are not new, and we all know about lag in Dominion. If they reinburse the losses, they will have to retrospectively reiumburse all of NC's losses in Geminate against ATLAS too. And do so in any large, laggy fights going forward. It simply won't happen. Fact.
The precedent has already been set, and it wasn't set tonight.
Wanna bet? Shrike's titan was reimbursed due to similar issues. That set a precedence.
I might be wrong, but it will be an interesting gambit by ccp if they don't acknowledge the technical issues here.
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Necronym
Minmatar Darkwave Technologies Blade.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:52:00 -
[52]
Goon/PL tears so sweat
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Ladrien Sunwalker
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:53:00 -
[53]
abuhu? ------------------------------------------------
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Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:54:00 -
[54]
Originally by: skulled Wanna bet?
How much? -------
Going to kill you in Dust 514 |
skulled
Minmatar Monkeytech
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:56:00 -
[55]
I'm gonna leave it there. But lets wait and see shall we.
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Jebb Jones
Caldari Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:57:00 -
[56]
Classic 30 kills - 40 losses... DICE wants YOU!
Originally by: Weaselior
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
shut up pubbie
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Aron Kobalt
Gallente Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:58:00 -
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Edited by: Aron Kobalt on 03/01/2010 03:58:54 simply put it, this game and CCP failed terribly with Dominion...
Just imagine you have a friend you want him to join you playing EVE. You show him Dominion trailer to motivate him. After some time he gets into a fight like today... he'd be an idiot to pay again.
I feel bad for all people that lost every single ship while not loading grid. Isn't this game supposed to be about the fights and who outmanoevred another fleet?!?!
All we (AND I MEAN ALL OF US) are left with is lag, whine, logging off tactics, ,blue balling, waiting for fights that don't happen, local spam, petitions, CAOD tears, and people that feel important when they say someone deserved lag death...
Edit: and ofc monthly payment!
DUMB --------
Aron |
Selnix
Gallente North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:58:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Marlona Sky Hmmmm.... Jumping into a system that you know is not reinforced, has over 1000 people in it to slug it out...
CCP better not reimburse. Everyone knew the risk and took it. I mean seriously, what did you think was going to happen??
Also, @ the goonie tears!!!!
So you dev type fellas have some kind of client with a node reinforcement indicator in it? Must be nice bro.
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Buxaroo
Gallente The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:59:00 -
[59]
This post is giving me a SERIOUS hard on.
I bet my Wyvern that if IT bought the dust in the fight you subhumans would be on here patting yourselves on the back.
So.....HARDEN THE **** UP.
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Fitz VonHeise
Caldari Eye Bee Em Stellar Defense Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 03:59:00 -
[60]
The question needs to be asked:
Was CCP notified before hand to reinforce the node? If so and if it still failed then CCP has not fixed their 'Need for Speed'.
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Zatharyn
Minmatar IG Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:00:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise The question needs to be asked:
Was CCP notified before hand to reinforce the node? If so and if it still failed then CCP has not fixed their 'Need for Speed'.
The Corp left at DT today, So Sov went Neutral after DT, so you need 1 DT to reinforce the Node, So no the Node Wasnt Reinforced.
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Necronym
Minmatar Darkwave Technologies Blade.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:01:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Necronym on 03/01/2010 04:01:21
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise The question needs to be asked:
Was CCP notified before hand to reinforce the node? If so and if it still failed then CCP has not fixed their 'Need for Speed'.
We asked same and was told they where informed...who knows for sure though.
Edit: typos
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:01:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Buxaroo This post is giving me a SERIOUS hard on.
I bet my Wyvern that if IT bought the dust in the fight you subhumans would be on here patting yourselves on the back.
So.....HARDEN THE **** UP.
They would be doing a lot more to each other than patting each other on the back...
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Sworn Absent
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:02:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Kick BTLS
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Palmer Eldritch
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:04:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Buxaroo This post is giving me a SERIOUS hard on.
I bet my Wyvern that if IT bought the dust in the fight you subhumans would be on here patting yourselves on the back.
So.....HARDEN THE **** UP.
If your Wyvern bit the dust I would certainly harden the **** up.
Oh god, I'm cascading
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Mia Archer
Amarr Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:06:00 -
[66]
Butter might actualy have a point if CCP's petition system was actualy logical and had anythign to do with precidents. Of course it doesnt and multiple super caps and cap fleets and other **** has been reimbursed under less ******ed situations so theres no such thing as a precident anymore with the entire reimbursment system.
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Pedro Sangre
Minmatar Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:07:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Buxaroo This post is giving me a SERIOUS hard on.
I bet my Wyvern that if IT bought the dust in the fight you subhumans would be on here patting yourselves on the back.
So.....HARDEN THE **** UP.
Sure. And likewise, you would be the one crying about lag, Bux. Get over it.
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Buxaroo
Gallente The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:09:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise The question needs to be asked:
Was CCP notified before hand to reinforce the node? If so and if it still failed then CCP has not fixed their 'Need for Speed'.
No. Y-2 went up for grabs today after SOT corp failed cascaded and left alliance and system went neutral. We came in with everything and the kitchen sink, enemy came in with their kitchen sink. Ours didn't get flooded, but theirs sure did.
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Bobbechk
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:10:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Bobbechk on 03/01/2010 04:15:44
IS by any chanse IT looking for an experianced sig maker?
my allaince seems to have lost all their titans and i really cba to fly by gates...
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Ladrien Sunwalker
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:14:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Bobbechk
^ Gold ------------------------------------------------
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VonKaplanek III
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:15:00 -
[71]
Originally by: skulled I might be wrong, but it will be an interesting gambit by ccp if they don't acknowledge the technical issues here.
Might be wrong????
You have never been right
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Bedrock
Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:15:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Ladrien Sunwalker
Originally by: Bobbechk
^ Gold
liquid gold
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houndbite
Gallente Point Blank. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:16:00 -
[73]
Wow, are you serious.. you suck?, you knew it was gunna be laggy so what do you and your allies do jump titans in.. freeking idiots!
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Sinwagon
Amarr The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:18:00 -
[74]
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaHHAAAAAaaaHHAAAAAaaaHHAAAAAaaaHHAAA!!!!!!! AAaaaHHAAAAAaaaHHAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHahhahahaaahahahahhaahhhhh!!!!!!! hhhhhhhhAaaaaaaaaaaaHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAaaaaahahahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHahhahahaaah!!!!!!!!! ahahahhaahhhhhhhhhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaahahahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAH!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHAHHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAHHHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHahhahahaa!!!!!!! ahahahahhaahhhhhhhhhhhhhAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaahahahahahahah!!!!
TL:DR
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the Poet
Minmatar Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:19:00 -
[75]
Edited by: the Poet on 03/01/2010 04:19:20
Originally by: Bobbechk
IS by any chanse IT looking for an experianced sig maker?
my allaince seems to have lost all their titans and i really cba to fly by gates...
EDIT: also you guys primaried my carrier after the titans so i need donations for a new one!
I vouch
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:20:00 -
[76]
a goony friend told me the plan was to crash the node and log back in before IT and ninja the TCU... which would prolly still have incurred quite a few dread losses but easily replaceable.
but oh well... i like this result much better.
big FU to goons and PL...it was fun.
im just going to enjoy the tears and bm this thread to read to myself every night before i go to sleep.
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Vince Draken
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:22:00 -
[77]
Whine Harder
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Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:24:00 -
[78]
I jumped into a system in Geminate with 20 pilots in it about 3 hours ago and still haven't loaded grid, yesterday, we titan bridged into a system with 60 pilots and took around a minute to load grid. Other side of the map today, this joke of a "fight" happened.
1200+ man fights aside, am I supposed to re-enforce systems if I want to jump bridge average sized fleets, or if I just want to travel through a system?
CCP you really, really need to fix your game, or at least suspend sov changes until its fixed. I agree that you shouldn't jump large fleets into systems, even if they are re-enforced, but the problem is present even in small to medium sized fights.
At least comment on the progress of a fix, or even an acknowledgement that there is a problem, I don't understand how the game can be so broken and yet the developers just ignore it.
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zombu2
Caldari The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:29:00 -
[79]
Edited by: zombu2 on 03/01/2010 04:29:58 Enough with the trolling
GM lock this b*tch up
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Nahia Senne
Gallente Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:35:00 -
[80]
This reminds me of good old days when TCF leadership threatened to quit the game after losing ton of BS in some laggy fight. Keep on crying
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Elite28
Caldari The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:39:00 -
[81]
I bet next time you guys will think before spamming fo fo fo fo fo again... ccp got tired of you
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Hilarious Consequences
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:40:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Kick BTLS
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Sinwagon
Amarr The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:41:00 -
[83]
I mean, just for a second, let's suppose it was a lag issue. Wouldn't both sides be effected?
To sit here and cry that you lost because the lag is an insult to the intelligence of everyone in this game. We have all experienced laggy battles and both sides suffered. So to pander this one off as a "grid" issue (especially since the Goons literally wrote the book on grid exploiting) or lag issues is just, well, less than who you represent yourselves to be.
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:43:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Selnix
Originally by: Marlona Sky Hmmmm.... Jumping into a system that you know is not reinforced, has over 1000 people in it to slug it out...
CCP better not reimburse. Everyone knew the risk and took it. I mean seriously, what did you think was going to happen??
Also, @ the goonie tears!!!!
So you dev type fellas have some kind of client with a node reinforcement indicator in it? Must be nice bro.
Yeah, it is right here.
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:43:00 -
[85]
oh yeh i remember them spamming local with dbrb is gay n stuff for like 1 hour straight.
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w0rmy
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:46:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Kick BTLS
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Tellenta
Gallente Invicta.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:49:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Lead by example.
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Great Guardian
Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:50:00 -
[88]
This is why I have zero interest in "big fleet" battles. I feel really sorry for foot soldiers of big alliances.
CCP are we pay subscription to have fun ... or not?
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:50:00 -
[89]
Originally by: w0rmy
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Kick BTLS
QTBIAD
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F4ze
Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:53:00 -
[90]
Hope someone fraps the DD stuff :p
Anyways can we all get reimbource OKAYthx
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Cpt Underpants
Caldari SUNDERING Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:54:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Miss Artica Is ZAF allowed to post on caod? i thought that right was reserved for goons...
ZAF gets a pass under subsection 3 of the terms defining "pets" in EVE.
... 3. EXCLUSIONS a. CONTRIBUTIONS AND PAYMENTS If a associated entity is not compulsorily required to contribute to another for thing such as, but not limited to: ISK, Materials, Defense/Offense forces, sexual favors, freighter escort services; then the entity is not considered a "pet" but an "ally"
b. FORUM POSTING If meeting the requirements under 3.a, said entity is permitted to post in their own right on any EVE-Associated forums including, but not limited to, CAOD, Kungu and SHC. Allies are not required to identify themselves as such on any forums, and alt-posting is permitted on CAOD. ...
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PhantomVoice
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 04:54:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Kick BTLS
Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator |
dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:00:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Great Guardian This is why I have zero interest in "big fleet" battles. I feel really sorry for foot soldiers of big alliances.
CCP are we pay subscription to have fun ... or not?
/cheers GG
wut you talking about?
goon/pl tears are always fun man, anyway to come by them!
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MpozoY
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:05:00 -
[94]
Really the funniest part of this seems to be that our ships, sans pods or pilots, seem to finally be appearing in system.
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Moostang
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:09:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Moostang on 03/01/2010 05:10:49
Quote: The issue you are reporting has been investigated by our administration team. Unfortunately, our logs do not show that anything out of the ordinary occurred. Without this evidence, we cannot reimburse your ship. Our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.
Best regards, GM Zhainius EVE Online Customer Support
Translation: It is not out of the ordinary to let hundreds of our paying subscribers to play this game. Therefor any losses that happen because you're dumb enough to try to play this broken p.o.s. game are not reimbursable.
CCP, you are all idiots to think nothing is wrong with hundreds of pilots not being able to do anything for over 2 hours and think it's ordinary.
Actually, now that I've thought about it, CCP is brilliant! They make a game, advertise it to be far more than it ever can be, lures thousands of players in, doesnt let them play for hours on end, and then charges them RL money for it. Now that's a solid business plan!!
gg gf
Edit: I didnt lose anything because I never loaded into system. I still cant load system, i cant even log in but i'm sure this is all part of CCP's plan for fixing Icelands torn economy, what a waste of oxygen you all are.
Moostang Co-CEO Darkstar 1 Goonswarm
Priceless Necro Thread |
Lynn Deniera
Caldari SUNDERING Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:10:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Lasakywa Guys, WI.dot and Atlas tried this in geminate for the last month JUST FOR YOU, and you still jumped all these people : /
And they even had a reinforced node. Y-2 wasnt.
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Bedrock
Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:12:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Moostang Edited by: Moostang on 03/01/2010 05:10:49
Quote: The issue you are reporting has been investigated by our administration team. Unfortunately, our logs do not show that anything out of the ordinary occurred. Without this evidence, we cannot reimburse your ship. Our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.
Best regards, GM Zhainius EVE Online Customer Support
Translation: It is not out of the ordinary to let hundreds of our paying subscribers to play this game. Therefor any losses that happen because you're dumb enough to try to play this broken p.o.s. game are not reimbursable.
CCP, you are all idiots to think nothing is wrong with hundreds of pilots not being able to do anything for over 2 hours and think it's ordinary.
Actually, now that I've thought about it, CCP is brilliant! They make a game, advertise it to be far more than it ever can be, lures thousands of players in, doesnt let them play for hours on end, and then charges them RL money for it. Now that's a solid business plan!!
gg gf
Edit: I didnt lose anything because I never loaded into system. I still cant load system, i cant even log in but i'm sure this is all part of CCP's plan for fixing Icelands torn economy, what a waste of oxygen you all are.
Translation: Tears
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Cpt WilliamKidd
Minmatar WhyMyPod HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:12:00 -
[98]
best goon is a dead goon, and btw dont cry, why you generated so much more lagg with local spam?
thx guys, you failed again
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Kaiwhakawa Tumuaki
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:13:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
I encourage you to leave the game - regardless of lag ccp or molle's creepy overtures toward your son
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Tzujeih
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:18:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Quince Dupree CCP didnt fail, PL failed
to load grid
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Slap Chop
Minmatar Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:23:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Slap Chop on 03/01/2010 05:24:19
Originally by: Marlona Sky Hmmmm.... Jumping into a system that you know is not reinforced, has over 1000 people in it to slug it out...
CCP better not reimburse. Everyone knew the risk and took it. I mean seriously, what did you think was going to happen??
Also, @ the goonie tears!!!!
You seem pretty fat and slow, i'll clarify things for ya. Everyone here has a subscription to play a game where you shoot stuff in space, not a game of guesswork trying to figure out whether or not it will function properly.
@ your post history that's up our asses.
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Dez Affinity
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:23:00 -
[102]
You guys should petition CCP for new monitors.
What with the same frame showing for 3 hours, you're gonna get screen burn. _______________
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Pudgy McFudge
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:26:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Pudgy McFudge on 03/01/2010 05:28:33 I was playing a free browser game that whole time and was literally having more fun.
There's a lesson here.
Edit: Fully insured ratting apoc converted to scrub fleet ship crew checking in |
Elo Behram
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:29:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Kick BTLS
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Xanthippie Orion
Caldari Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:31:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Bedrock
Originally by: Moostang Edited by: Moostang on 03/01/2010 05:10:49
Quote: The issue you are reporting has been investigated by our administration team. Unfortunately, our logs do not show that anything out of the ordinary occurred. Without this evidence, we cannot reimburse your ship. Our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.
Best regards, GM Zhainius EVE Online Customer Support
Translation: It is not out of the ordinary to let hundreds of our paying subscribers to play this game. Therefor any losses that happen because you're dumb enough to try to play this broken p.o.s. game are not reimbursable.
CCP, you are all idiots to think nothing is wrong with hundreds of pilots not being able to do anything for over 2 hours and think it's ordinary.
Actually, now that I've thought about it, CCP is brilliant! They make a game, advertise it to be far more than it ever can be, lures thousands of players in, doesnt let them play for hours on end, and then charges them RL money for it. Now that's a solid business plan!!
gg gf
Edit: I didnt lose anything because I never loaded into system. I still cant load system, i cant even log in but i'm sure this is all part of CCP's plan for fixing Icelands torn economy, what a waste of oxygen you all are.
Translation: Tears
Yep, that what I got from Google translator too :)
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CF ProctoR
Caldari x13 IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:34:00 -
[106]
Really nice fight i loved to see one titan by another go pop .. wuuuhuuuu
Btw goon+ladies is that tears comming from your eyes ?
Best Regards CF ProctoR
Clown'R'us !
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zythyl
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:36:00 -
[107]
Edited by: zythyl on 03/01/2010 05:36:30 Wait I don't get it.
"CCP Failed Tonight."
AFAIK, Goons / PL tried to enter an unsupported node knowing there were already 600 pilots spinning there ships in there? To add to that, sources tell me that they were spamming local and their plan was to... crash the node and force a re-log; apparently beating IT's loggers and getting into the node first.
Damn you, CCP. Lrn2psychic.
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Mya ElleTerego
Amarr The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:36:00 -
[108]
y-8 for those that dont know what thy are talking about was reinforced, and was very lag free unfortunately. We had a fleet in there probing for discos, and it was pitiful how many discoed with 700 warping to grid at near same time. Think 5 people disconnected.
As far as the fight, we didnt try and go for it, number 1 we didnt have enough dudes, tho we had a solid amt, but primarily because they were all in system and CTA and formed up all day long. Props to the NC for having dedicated resources to that system for like 12 hours straight. We didnt even remotely want to try and jump hundreds of dudes in there.
In k25 alot of our caps discoed on a unreinforced node and it was terribad. We came in to help solar save thier carriers and SBU, and the node pretty much died. We should have easily finished our objective but the node couldnt even handle dreads shooting at a station. Alot of capitals from our side died 100% to lag and node death. NC never blew up a single capital while on grid with us, it was all discos, or people that couldnt jump out of system and got socket error, or were stuck in siege permanantly. CCP didnt reimburse everyones ships, and we probably shouldnt have jumped in there, but we took the risk, and dealt with it.
Then you guys do it in fountain, and its like its some kinda of suprise? CCP better get ready to reimburse alot of ships, if they reimburse the ones you guys just lost, because you tried to load grid with 800 hostiles on it with probably 2500 drones launched. Poor FC decisions shouldnt be an excuse to get free isk back. Also inviting the NC to come help you out blob your enemy 1.5 to 2x to 1 im sure was really smart. Who knows maybe you could have actually fought back if they didnt show up. We thank you tho, it freed up geminate to get ransacked again.
Maybe next time you should CTA up like the NC did at downtime, and hang out all day long. It sucks, but welcome to dominion and the silly amt of reinforcement timers and fighting on gates. Alliance Recruit thread Alliance Homepage/Killboard |
Tobruk
Caldari Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:37:00 -
[109]
IT is so much more elite at loading grid than us
we never stood a chance
In all funnin aside that was pretty weak. we never even got a chance to fight and thats not what anyone plays this game for. ---------------------------------------------- Please re-size your signature to the maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist |
Anisa Schardl
Caldari Ashen Lion Mining and Production Consortium Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:39:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Moostang Edited by: Moostang on 03/01/2010 05:10:49
Quote: The issue you are reporting has been investigated by our administration team. Unfortunately, our logs do not show that anything out of the ordinary occurred. Without this evidence, we cannot reimburse your ship. Our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.
Best regards, GM Zhainius EVE Online Customer Support
Translation: It is not out of the ordinary to let hundreds of our paying subscribers to play this game. Therefor any losses that happen because you're dumb enough to try to play this broken p.o.s. game are not reimbursable.
CCP, you are all idiots to think nothing is wrong with hundreds of pilots not being able to do anything for over 2 hours and think it's ordinary.
Actually, now that I've thought about it, CCP is brilliant! They make a game, advertise it to be far more than it ever can be, lures thousands of players in, doesnt let them play for hours on end, and then charges them RL money for it. Now that's a solid business plan!!
gg gf
Edit: I didnt lose anything because I never loaded into system. I still cant load system, i cant even log in but i'm sure this is all part of CCP's plan for fixing Icelands torn economy, what a waste of oxygen you all are.
Quit whining. NC lost two fleets jumping into Atlas and everyone just laughed at them. Surprise surprise, it happens to you and suddenly it's a huge deal. Maybe next time, learn from your allies' mistakes, especially since the noobs in Jita could have predicted what would happen tonight.
Want to give a shout out to CCP for standing by their policy. I was afraid you guys would cave to the mass whines and reimburse the losses, which would have been the biggest show of favoritism ever, and a huge slap in the face to all the other entities that have suffered lag losses. Thankfully they chose to keep the field level.
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:42:00 -
[111]
Let me ask a question. Y-2 is about half way between fountain and Delve. PL & co. could have been bringing people in to the system all day like IT did. ItÆs not like US people are working, itÆs Saturday. So why was it that you waited till late in the day to mass jump in your blob? I mean, with all of the lag threads from up north, you knew that it would be impossible to jump in without lag. Did you think that euroÆs were not going to stay up to defend the SCU? Well, in that case you made a strategic error and deserve the losses tbh.
The truth will set you free
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TK420
Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:43:00 -
[112]
Just wondering, did any of the titans that died have mods on them? Anyone have a killmail link with one that did show mods on it?
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CmdrJAGUAR
Gallente Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 05:57:00 -
[113]
What goes around comes around?
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LUKEC
Amarr Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:00:00 -
[114]
I'm really glad NC got what they came for. Nice, lagless blackscreen environment and enjoyable limp home in pods or cloning express. Please come again.
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MukkBarovian
Caldari The Hull Miners Union Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:01:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Lynn Deniera
Originally by: Lasakywa Guys, WI.dot and Atlas tried this in geminate for the last month JUST FOR YOU, and you still jumped all these people : /
And they even had a reinforced node. Y-2 wasnt.
My favorite was the loss I got when I jumped into k25 and got shot at by friendlies because of overview glitch. Never got to shoot any enemies. And then I disconected. Couldn't log back on. My stupid ship stayed around for 15 mins and got probed out and killed. Good thing I was in a teir 1 t1 battlecruiser instead of being one of those unlucky ****s who disconnected aggressed in caps.
And congratulations on taking 700 people into a system with 600 already in local and no reinforcement on the node. You got exactly what was comming to you.
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Anita1
Gallente Lyonesse. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:02:00 -
[116]
Guys be honest, it doesn't matter to which alliance someone belongs. CCP fails since Dominion and we pay for this. Living in 0.0 isn't fun anymore. They had more than one month and still nothing changed. CCP is really FAIL!!!
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Joe Blow
Minmatar Rage of Inferno
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:03:00 -
[117]
Lag prevented Goons and PL from getting into system 8 hours earlier? You must not have wanted the fight that bad!
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:08:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Elo Behram
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Kick BTLS
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Varesk
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:13:00 -
[119]
why dont you guys log on to the test server and help ccp try to fix the problem. all the information is in this word. |
Aegis Osiris
Gallente Failure Avoidance Insurance Limited
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:15:00 -
[120]
I still don't understand this mentality. There's no WAY that anyone on either side could have expected a different result. Noone can be that stupid...not even with the groups involved here. So why the f**k jump?? You had that many people, and other systems with crap to shoot, towers and stations and hubs to reinforce. There were such better options, you could have turned this around.
1. Leave some portion of your fleet to cover Y-2, in case it opens up. 2. Split the rest, and hit every bit of thier infrastructure you can, all over. 3. When the invariable timer screwup happens, you get to take back stuff. 4. If they make a move, you can counter.
Instead of move and countermove in ONE system, you have to do it across many. Seems like the obvious choice, and a helluva lot better then jump > lag > f**kin' die.
But maybe I'm the problem, cause I don't think like a freakin' lemming.
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Clinically
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:15:00 -
[121]
he mad
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Farham
Gallente Titan Industries Technology Team Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:17:00 -
[122]
"I'm really glad NC got what they came for. Nice, lagless blackscreen environment and enjoyable limp home in pods or cloning express. Please come again."
We all know that CCP will eventually figure out the bugs that are causing the issue since Dominion came out. That might be next week or a few weeks from now. When they do, the rather large forces that clearly are now being focused at you while you sit in these systems currently nearly invulnerable will be able to actually fight back. Lets be honest, you don't want the NC to come back when CCP gets their **** straight because it will mean round 2 of complete failure for your group.
That is why Tri was given their original task pre-dominion release, keep NC busy. The thing no one saw coming was the node crash fest which has been ITs and allies best friend.
These threads should be fun bumping material once CCP finds and fixes the Dominion initiated problems.
Not hacking it in 0.0 since 2006
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Russian Troll
Amarr Russian Forum Trolls
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:26:00 -
[123]
There would be no game company which with such neglect concerned players as CCP. To whom your beautiful planets, the star sky and other dust are necessary if game simply does not work.
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Takarina
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:30:00 -
[124]
Leaving with my 837 accounts
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LUKEC
Amarr Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:31:00 -
[125]
Well farham, look at it this way: NC knew what they are dealing with, thes still came? Why? Goodfights or just simply hoping to blob some more and make sure any kind of fight is impossible?
We all know the answer and if you forgot, it's them whining. Perhaps they should stay home next time ? Because in the end, they didn't field anything relevant anyway.
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Gixxer 1000
Caldari Ceptacemia Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:34:00 -
[126]
I see IT is drinking some serious Goon tears tonight, long live IT!
By the way, WTS capital parts for Titans...the end...
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:37:00 -
[127]
Originally by: LUKEC Well farham, look at it this way: NC knew what they are dealing with, thes still came? Why? Goodfights or just simply hoping to blob some more and make sure any kind of fight is impossible?
We all know the answer and if you forgot, it's them whining. Perhaps they should stay home next time ? Because in the end, they didn't field anything relevant anyway.
Or maybe they need some more dedication and log in a few hours earlier like the IT guys did?
Just cramming tons of people into fleet and jumping into an already overcrowded system didn't work for the NC against Atlas in Geminate and it didn't work here. But when the NC occupied the system hours before the fight in Geminate, then they were able to hold the field easily against Atlas.
Obviously PL/Goons didn't learn that lesson from the north.
Yeah sure it sucks that the node didn't deliver, but everyone KNEW that exactly this would happen so the outcome couldn't be any surprise and some really odd fc'ing to jump into the system allowed this slaughter.
Whom to blame? CCP or the people giving the command to go in while everyone knows the resulting lag and problems of loading will 100% surely happen? |
Deltaprimus
Caldari Shadow Legion. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 06:50:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Moostang Edited by: Moostang on 03/01/2010 05:10:49
Quote: The issue you are reporting has been investigated by our administration team. Unfortunately, our logs do not show that anything out of the ordinary occurred. Without this evidence, we cannot reimburse your ship. Our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.
Best regards, GM Zhainius EVE Online Customer Support
Translation: It is not out of the ordinary to let hundreds of our paying subscribers to play this game. Therefor any losses that happen because you're dumb enough to try to play this broken p.o.s. game are not reimbursable.
CCP, you are all idiots to think nothing is wrong with hundreds of pilots not being able to do anything for over 2 hours and think it's ordinary.
Actually, now that I've thought about it, CCP is brilliant! They make a game, advertise it to be far more than it ever can be, lures thousands of players in, doesnt let them play for hours on end, and then charges them RL money for it. Now that's a solid business plan!!
gg gf
Edit: I didnt lose anything because I never loaded into system. I still cant load system, i cant even log in but i'm sure this is all part of CCP's plan for fixing Icelands torn economy, what a waste of oxygen you all are.
jesus guys theyre evolving! Thats quite funny for a goon... what the hell is the world coming too
If it had been the other way round u guys would be laughing your Ar*es off in htis thread. Still not an excuse for ccp to ignore the problem. Personally i agree fix the nodes so that next time NC get involved we can kill them and make them qq after a fair fight. All though hats off to whoever came up with the plan to crash the node very sneaky unfourtunatley the fates saw fit to give us the victory. whats the saying... oh yeh... GSPLONCT tears are sweet as hell -------------------------
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 07:05:00 -
[129]
Goons complaining about lag LMFAO,..
"guys jump in a system all together and then on the count ALL deploy uour drones and spam local like crazy, this will kill the node and work in our favour",..
Thats right Goons worked in your favour,..
o/ skulled, what you think about the KB now,.. --
"if at first you don't succeed, call NC!"
Or rather, if you fail all the time, call NC,.. |
Minx Smasher
Caldari Pilots Of Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 07:13:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Aron Kobalt Edited by: Aron Kobalt on 03/01/2010 03:58:54 simply put it, this game and CCP failed terribly with Dominion...
Just imagine you have a friend you want him to join you playing EVE. You show him Dominion trailer to motivate him. After some time he gets into a fight like today... he'd be an idiot to pay again.
I feel bad for all people that lost every single ship while not loading grid. Isn't this game supposed to be about the fights and who outmanoevred another fleet?!?!
All we (AND I MEAN ALL OF US) are left with is lag, whine, logging off tactics, ,blue balling, waiting for fights that don't happen, local spam, petitions, CAOD tears, and people that feel important when they say someone deserved lag death...
Edit: and ofc monthly payment!
DUMB
Can I haz ur stuffz?
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 07:19:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Takarina Leaving with my 837 accounts
Does that mean someone will actually log in them,.. --
"if at first you don't succeed, call NC!"
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Altair Mogwa
Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 07:32:00 -
[132]
Originally by: LUKEC Well farham, look at it this way: NC knew what they are dealing with, thes still came? Why? Goodfights or just simply hoping to blob some more and make sure any kind of fight is impossible?
p sure when the system only holds 400 these days, having 600 in local already is a blob. Also goodfights lol what? No. they came to try and stop you from being handed another station by allies worse then GBC pets of yester years.
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Armadaus Baldwin
Gallente International House of PWNCakes
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Posted - 2010.01.03 07:53:00 -
[133]
I don't oft post in this cesspool, however I have one thing to say.
Die Goons.
In honor of 02-05-09, and our new Goon Overlords.
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Anile8er
Minmatar Solstice Systems Development Concourse Distant Drums
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Posted - 2010.01.03 08:11:00 -
[134]
Goons are whinny little ***gots... lol
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Bonecaya
Minmatar The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 08:29:00 -
[135]
tbh.. it's a game.. and there are known issues with large fleet battles.
We knew the risks, and took the chance. Our fleet could have been lagged out and we could have lost craploads of stuff. But, the coin fell on the other side of the fence.
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 08:36:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Nice quote here from Phreeze:
"1/100th of us maybe loaded grid. Those would be the few dudes who tried to shoot off the tacklers and bombers.
The NC fleet got squadwarped squad by squad by a spy to the hostile pos over the course of an hour and didn't know it was happening until a goon who had already been in local reported us dying there. We never saw the light of day.
I tried to tell the people running these fleets how to properly get in system in heavy lag (as we did successfully with 500+ people into a heavily lagged system in geminate recently) and I thought that was the method that we were going to be using.
For the 2 minutes or so my command ship had the grid (it became unresponsive shortly therafter) I was able to see that all of our cynos had gone off within 10km of each other, not in seperate grids and time staggered to reduce lag on the system, and that a cap and titan fleet had cynoed in as well.
Once you take out the fact that this fight would have worked pre-domi, this fleet died because people did not listen to those of us who do know how lag works post-domi. They learned the lesson the hard way.
Theres also not a chance in hell these titan's get reimbursed IMO, so those expressing their outrage can stop bandying about that rallying cry.
All in all, it was a pretty disapointing evening when compared to the epic fight it could have been (a dozen or more titans on each side, even capital numbers, huge ass support fleet, bombers on both sides..."
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Orebuster
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:08:00 -
[137]
mad props to the clowns for their first victory in 4 years, let's party!
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Pesadel0
Minmatar Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:09:00 -
[138]
/me licks the tears
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Airyal
Amarr Dracula Order Legiunea ROmana
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:14:00 -
[139]
99.65% Efficiency
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The Power
Caldari x13 IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:15:00 -
[140]
So nice to hear this ... from a wanna be goonie ... LOL leaving the failing SOT to join goonies ... and then still cries.
I'm sorry , IT's hard when the shoes dont fit
CYA on the battlefield .. oooh no wait we wont
/Power out
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:20:00 -
[141]
I wish Skulled was here to explain how the loss of 10 more dreads than you kill is crippling to an alliance.
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Bedrock
Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:22:00 -
[142]
Originally by: General Windypops I wish Skulled was here to explain how the loss of 10 more dreads than you kill is crippling to an alliance.
I dont think anyone wishes him here tbh
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Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:26:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Orebuster mad props to the clowns for their first victory in 4 years, let's party!
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HARYBARY
Amarr Bulgarian Mafia Squad Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:26:00 -
[144]
YES. IT are GREAT. Nobody cares that they post fake killmails.
1. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121212 2. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121360
3. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121209 4. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121364
Find differences 1=2 and 3=4.
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Massive Dragon
Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:27:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Farham "I'm really glad NC got what they came for. Nice, lagless blackscreen environment and enjoyable limp home in pods or cloning express. Please come again."
We all know that CCP will eventually figure out the bugs that are causing the issue since Dominion came out. That might be next week or a few weeks from now. When they do, the rather large forces that clearly are now being focused at you while you sit in these systems currently nearly invulnerable will be able to actually fight back. Lets be honest, you don't want the NC to come back when CCP gets their **** straight because it will mean round 2 of complete failure for your group.
That is why Tri was given their original task pre-dominion release, keep NC busy. The thing no one saw coming was the node crash fest which has been ITs and allies best friend.
These threads should be fun bumping material once CCP finds and fixes the Dominion initiated problems.
to be fair it seems that goons/pl/nc intended to use the ****ty servers to their benefit, jumping such numbers into an unreinforced node and then when that didnt crash the server tehy tried to spam local (not sure if that would ever work...) but when it didnt crash as they hoped it would they where left trying to deal with loading a full grid.
really both sides knew lag would be there and the decision of the goon/pl fcs to jump in was clearly trying to exploit the lag/server crashes that are common place in this sort of game play. the fact that it didnt work out for them is the reason they lost so badly and now its become CCPs fault instead of bad fcing decisions and a stupid memberbase lemming it in.
i would be shocked if ccp reimbursed any of these morons and even more shocked if once lag gets a little better we saw a reversal and these idiots started to win.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:32:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Orebuster mad props to the clowns for their first victory in 4 years, let's party!
To be fair, it does mean that IT have now shattered the record for the biggest single victory in a battle, and that PL now have the record for the greatest ever defeat.
Once again, Molle and co make Eve history. Great work, guys.
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Bedrock
Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:35:00 -
[147]
Originally by: HARYBARY YES. IT are GREAT. Nobody cares that they post fake killmails.
1. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121212 2. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121360
3. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121209 4. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121364
Find differences 1=2 and 3=4.
Sometimes kms dont generate. Than again the only Titan kms you can generate are your own "defecting" members amirite?
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:41:00 -
[148]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Orebuster mad props to the clowns for their first victory in 4 years, let's party!
To be fair, it does mean that IT have now shattered the record for the biggest single victory in a battle, and that PL now have the record for the greatest ever defeat.
Once again, Molle and co make Eve history. Great work, guys.
Yup, now Tri have to top this and kill 12 mining Moms of Rzr,.. --
"if at first you don't succeed, call NC!"
Or rather, if you fail all the time, call NC,.. |
Myz Toyou
Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:43:00 -
[149]
Edited by: Myz Toyou on 03/01/2010 09:44:04
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
It was all T20`s fault. Quote me if you are sad.
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Caecilius Seneca
Caldari Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:47:00 -
[150]
I also encourage goons to quit the game. that is all.
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Robocop
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:47:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Robocop on 03/01/2010 09:48:42 you guys get the r etard-award for the new decade. Atlas/Solar vs. NC stresstested this a week ago with the exact same result and yet you build on something that cannot be given, good server peformance.
i hope you dont mind the rest of the eve-world lol'ing the f**k out of you for making the ******ed step in the history of eve-warfare.
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Sir Zzang
Amarr REUNI0N Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:48:00 -
[152]
Posting in an epic thread. _ :D! |
Jarnis McPieksu
Gallente Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:51:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu on 03/01/2010 09:55:14
Dear EVE players who haven't figured this out yet, here is a...
Guide to Dominion Grid Load Lag
Post-Dominion, we got a new bug. NC experienced it first-hand a couple of times and lost a pile of ships to it. Through repeated attempts at bashing a skull to a wall, a solution was eventually found. Many fleet battleships died bringing you this information.
If you try to enter system (not just warp to a grid, enter a new system) on a grid that has too many other ships on it, you will end up in a bugged state - grid will not load for you but your ship appears there and will most likely get shot - "too many" is a number that is somewhere between 200-300 ships. You also will be unable to log back in, so CTRL+Q is not really helpful.
Key points;
- It does not matter how many people are in system. It does not matter if the system is reinforced or not. The one and only thing that matters is how many people are on the grid you are using to enter the system. - The number matters at the moment you try to load the new system and grid and even blues count.
Hence, if you try to jump through a gate, if the other side has a large fleet, you will most likely get completely hosed. However, a mass jump can also cause everything to break for a part of your fleet simply because they enter the system only after the gate grid has already "too many" ships. Cue "first 100-200 people got thru fine, rest are lagged out on load, and look, reds are now arriving on grid and... *welp*".
If you cyno in, same is true for the grid where the cyno is.
Hence, for the love of all that is holy etc., do not light multiple cynos on a single grid and do not try to squeeze more than 200 ships through at once (number of ships jumping in + number of ships already on grid).
The way to combat the problem is to stagger the entry, use multiple grids, clear out ships from the grid as soon as they land to reduce problems for anyone still jumping in and preferably use cynos that are so far away from any hostiles that they cannot land on the cyno grid in time with a blob and break your entry before you are through and have warped off the cyno grid.
After you have properly entered the system, then everything works just like pre-dominion. 700-800 ships, while laggy, is playable. 1000+ could work on a reinforced node. Entering grids full of ships in that same system, while they may take a while - 10-20 seconds is not unheard of - will work. Cue fun mega bash without one side winning with a lame turkey shoot.
Until CCP can fix their code, hope this helps.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 09:52:00 -
[154]
Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 03/01/2010 09:53:49
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Many dedicated pilots died tonight in JV1V.....
Oh wait.....
~claims victory~
Now go get your shine box after you quit playing.
And good riddance.
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:02:00 -
[155]
Summary:
CCP they had more people then us! FIX THIS NOW PLEASE OR WE LEAVE GAME!!!
Oh the irony in that. It was worth comming back for tbfh.
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Mal Lokrano
Gallente Delve Inc.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:07:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Mal Lokrano on 03/01/2010 10:09:01 The only thing that gets me annoyed about this thread is the double standard. If goons had been in system first and killed 4 IT titans they would come here and chest beat. However, since they lost they come on here immediately blaming lag/CCP/(insert blamable object here) for their loss.
Sure lag sucks but goons and others have used lag before to their advantage. I am sure IT has used Lag before to their advantage, as does most alliances, so to call foul now is nothing but hypocrisy.
Don't jump into a system that is already heavy with pilots, this has happened before and will happen again as it seems many don't listen. ____________________________________________ When going to a party with wine, women, and song. Always ascertain the vintage of the first two. |
General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:16:00 -
[157]
Nothing at all about this thread annoys me. The result of this was never going to be anything different. Butter and I explained this to the NC guys in threads about the Atlas war many times over, and anyone with a basic grasp of recent eve battles saw it coming a mile off. God knows why Goonsplot FCs made quite such an inept decision, resulting in the single greatest failure in ANY fleet battle and a victory for IT that will be remembered for years to come.
Goons and co have been talking up this battle for days, and claiming it would be the turning point in the entire Fountain offensive, but the depressing truth for Goonsplot is that they would have been infinitely more successful with me as their FC.
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Tinnian Maso
Gallente B4D W0LF Undivided
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:17:00 -
[158]
lolz...just, lolz.
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Anile8er
Minmatar Solstice Systems Development Concourse Distant Drums
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:18:00 -
[159]
soooo when are all these ***gots gonna be quitting???
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Kola XXX
Caldari Lush Blue Garden
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:21:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Anile8er soooo when are all these ***gots gonna be quitting???
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michael weels
Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:24:00 -
[161]
Edited by: michael weels on 03/01/2010 10:25:28 CCP didn't fail today, PL/SOT/GOONS/NC failed today rather ... All of yuo SHOULD know by now what'll happend when you're stupid .. you loose an inch or a foot .. Looks like you lost a mile today .. Good job good job ...!
Oh and dont worry ccp, most people are too dedicated to this game not to leave it, no matter what they say =)
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Anile8er
Minmatar Solstice Systems Development Concourse Distant Drums
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:26:00 -
[162]
For lawls...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11ucbrzxkls
GoonSPLot members during the fight? After their fail atempt to be the one's holding grid...
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drall
Gallente Isk Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:51:00 -
[163]
Originally by: HARYBARY YES. IT are GREAT. Nobody cares that they post fake killmails.
1. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121212 2. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121360
3. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121209 4. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121364
Find differences 1=2 and 3=4.
Yes IT faked the mails, this explains why all 4 pl tit pilots are now located in stations. Somewhere i don't see the logic..... Seriously cry more........
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Faekurias
Caldari Raptus Regalitor Black Legion.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:51:00 -
[164]
The irony of this thread, I think I came a bit.
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.01.03 10:52:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
ironic isnt it.. i can recall a day when we where defending 1v- with LV. We didnt hear you then.
anyway pay backs a bicth.. all props for IT www.garia.net |
FLYTOP
Minmatar Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:01:00 -
[166]
camom.. stop crying and lier...uspam local for crash node and u get f***** now u cry .. poober man u have what u deserve flytop |
General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:03:00 -
[167]
Originally by: FLYTOP camom.. stop crying and lier...uspam local for crash node and u get f***** now u cry .. poober man u have what u deserve
qft
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Amanda Wilkins
Caldari Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:05:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Jebb Jones
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Is that a promise?
CCP; please do not fix the game until all Goons have left the game, thank you in advance.
Amanda Wilkins CEO of Dromedary, Goat, Albatross and Fish
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Fat Ducker
Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:06:00 -
[169]
Originally by: FLYTOP camom.. stop crying and lier...uspam local for crash node and u get f***** now u cry .. poober man u have what u deserve
Honestly, you just don't post often enough.
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Petar Quaresma
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:12:00 -
[170]
All of you fanboys who watched that terrible Eve TV garbage and felate anyone working with the game at fanfests just don't get that the game hasn't evolved. Timezone wars are worse than ever and there is literally no reason not to defend a single system at a time. If HED were under attack and AAA didn't jump into us to save it, they wouldn't be smart for avoiding the battle due to lag, they'd be stupid. There is no alternative to attacking a single system currently and there has never really been. The entire gimmick of Dominion, besides reducing the load of logistics, was to add new targets for combat etc. Well, let's take stock of Dominion.
1. The only station systems lost really were dropped and then picked up by alliances who randomly defected elsewhere or those lost during the confusion of the immediate post Dominion environment (not understanding timers or whatever). 2. Nothing has changed with stacking players in a single system to meet objectives and this will not change in the future. 3. New parties are only being dragged into 0.0 by large alliances looking to make bigger fleets for single system targets. 4. Dominion politics and conflicts are not really exciting, personally, and subjectively as far as I can see on any major forum.
So, Dominion seems to be a pretty big bust and, like POS warfare and remote DD's, we're likely stuck with this turd for at least a year.
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:12:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Kola XXX
Originally by: Anile8er soooo when are all these ***gots gonna be quitting???
IT didnt just kill alot of caps, several titans, SPLOT and a **** load of other things in Y-2 they also caused Goonies to emorage mega quit,..
Guess this is why Y-2 was special, I knew the battle was a success but to have all those 5000 trial pilots in Goons actually quit the game OMG, nice!,..
Oh and for what it is worth, as I said in Feb,..
Originally by: Bismaru's Ambition All you Goons did was slow down Bob if you think this will stop them you are shockingly mistaken,..
I guess you guys could call NC to help you out again,.. oh wai,..
Last few months have been delicious,.. GoonSPLOT,.. if you stay in EvE keep the tears sweet,..
Also can Phreeze, Mittani and Viper link their 'blog' on their prop pages again plz, I would love to hear how you guys spin this,.. --
"if at first you don't succeed, call NC!"
Or rather, if you fail all the time, call NC,.. |
FLYTOP
Minmatar Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:12:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Fat Ducker
Originally by: FLYTOP camom.. stop crying and lier...uspam local for crash node and u get f***** now u cry .. poober man u have what u deserve
Honestly, you just don't post often enough.
yes just wake up now because yestarday i had the fun that your aliance never had and never go have it ..so mery cristmas and good new year for u 2 flytop |
Pesadel0
Minmatar Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:18:00 -
[173]
Originally by: FLYTOP camom.. stop crying and lier...uspam local for crash node and u get f***** now u cry .. poober man u have what u deserve
wat his wrute.
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Scrapple
Minmatar Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:20:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Meno Theaetetus I jumped into a system in Geminate with 20 pilots in it about 3 hours ago and still haven't loaded grid, yesterday, we titan bridged into a system with 60 pilots and took around a minute to load grid. Other side of the map today, this joke of a "fight" happened.
1200+ man fights aside, am I supposed to re-enforce systems if I want to jump bridge average sized fleets, or if I just want to travel through a system?
CCP you really, really need to fix your game, or at least suspend sov changes until its fixed. I agree that you shouldn't jump large fleets into systems, even if they are re-enforced, but the problem is present even in small to medium sized fights.
At least comment on the progress of a fix, or even an acknowledgement that there is a problem, I don't understand how the game can be so broken and yet the developers just ignore it.
Suspend sov changes huh? Now thats an idea. Do you have any particular sov that you are worried about changing?
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bundus
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:21:00 -
[175]
Definition of ironic = Goons and PL crying about a failed game mechanic when they boasted and chest beated over this sort of thing when it worked in their favour for many a month.
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:23:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Petar Quaresma Edited by: Petar Quaresma on 03/01/2010 11:18:57 All of you fanboys who watched that terrible Eve TV garbage and felate anyone working with the game at fanfests just don't get that the game hasn't evolved. Timezone wars are worse than ever and there is literally no reason not to defend a single system at a time. If HED were under attack and AAA didn't jump into us to save it, they wouldn't be smart for avoiding the battle due to lag, they'd be stupid. There is no alternative to attacking a single system currently and there has never really been. The entire gimmick of Dominion, besides reducing the load of logistics, was to add new targets for combat etc. Well, let's take stock of Dominion.
1. The only station systems lost really were dropped by alliances who randomly defected elsewhere or those lost during the confusion of the immediate post Dominion environment (not understanding timers or whatever). 2. Nothing has changed with stacking players in a single system to meet objectives and this will not change in the future. 3. New parties are only being dragged into 0.0 by large alliances looking to make bigger fleets for single system targets. 4. Dominion politics and conflicts are not really exciting, personally, and subjectively as far as I can see on any major forum.
So, Dominion seems to be a pretty big bust and, like POS warfare and remote DD's, we're likely stuck with this turd for at least a year.
Congratulations on your repeated bull****, with all the other Goons quitting the game you are now the Queen Bee, I look forward to your z0r chains,.. --
"if at first you don't succeed, call NC!"
Or rather, if you fail all the time, call NC,.. |
Manterror
Gallente Fuzzy Duck Heavy Industries DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:27:00 -
[177]
IT, you seem to miss the bigger picture.
These guys played a lot of eve to skill up to capital ships, and buy capital ships. They lose their capital ships without a fight...without even seeing a fight.
Not being able to play the "end game" of Eve is a major failing by CCP. Its a failure of services that we all pay for, and soon all alliances on both sides of the war will be up in arms.
So stop pretending that you like this **** and strut around smug as if it was a major strategic victory, it will be you crying tears of pain at some point when your grid doesnt load.
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Stahlfalke
Gallente D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:28:00 -
[178]
goon tears are sooo sweet
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:28:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Petar Quaresma 2. Nothing has changed with stacking players in a single system to meet objectives and this will not change in the future. 3. New parties are only being dragged into 0.0 by large alliances looking to make bigger fleets for single system targets.
You're not even making it difficult to troll you.....
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Poizonous Lizard
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:29:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: Petar Quaresma 2. Nothing has changed with stacking players in a single system to meet objectives and this will not change in the future. 3. New parties are only being dragged into 0.0 by large alliances looking to make bigger fleets for single system targets.
You're not even making it difficult to troll you.....
Thol? WB poopy-head!
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flakeys
Caldari T.H.U.G L.I.F.E The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:32:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Kola XXX
Originally by: Anile8er soooo when are all these ***gots gonna be quitting???
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:32:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Manterror IT, you seem to miss the bigger picture.
These guys played a lot of eve to skill up to capital ships, and buy capital ships. They lose their capital ships without a fight...without even seeing a fight.
Not being able to play the "end game" of Eve is a major failing by CCP. Its a failure of services that we all pay for, and soon all alliances on both sides of the war will be up in arms.
So stop pretending that you like this **** and strut around smug as if it was a major strategic victory, it will be you crying tears of pain at some point when your grid doesnt load.
And when that happens GoonSPLOT run around calling it a victory, I think we can all agree lag sucks and needs to be fixed but dont make it sound like GoonSPLOT are above this,..
After all Goons were the ones who created this strategy, except unlike Goons IT dont trash talk local, spam drop drones and mass jump gates to crash, all they did was chill at the TCU,..
The initial objective of SPooNCLOT, was to crash the node in the first place but to have it work in their favour so why defend them when their plan worked just affected the wrong side,.. --
"if at first you don't succeed, call NC!"
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LUKEC
Amarr Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:36:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Manterror IT, you seem to miss the bigger picture.
These guys played a lot of eve to skill up to capital ships, and buy capital ships. They lose their capital ships without a fight...without even seeing a fight.
Not being able to play the "end game" of Eve is a major failing by CCP. Its a failure of services that we all pay for, and soon all alliances on both sides of the war will be up in arms.
So stop pretending that you like this **** and strut around smug as if it was a major strategic victory, it will be you crying tears of pain at some point when your grid doesnt load.
Haha, another victim of propaganda. There never were any "endgame" good fights in eve.
Ps. Jv1v.
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Manterror
Gallente Fuzzy Duck Heavy Industries DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:37:00 -
[184]
Originally by: CAOD Ambition
Originally by: Manterror IT, you seem to miss the bigger picture.
These guys played a lot of eve to skill up to capital ships, and buy capital ships. They lose their capital ships without a fight...without even seeing a fight.
Not being able to play the "end game" of Eve is a major failing by CCP. Its a failure of services that we all pay for, and soon all alliances on both sides of the war will be up in arms.
So stop pretending that you like this **** and strut around smug as if it was a major strategic victory, it will be you crying tears of pain at some point when your grid doesnt load.
And when that happens GoonSPLOT run around calling it a victory, I think we can all agree lag sucks and needs to be fixed but dont make it sound like GoonSPLOT are above this,..
After all Goons were the ones who created this strategy, except unlike Goons IT dont trash talk local, spam drop drones and mass jump gates to crash, all they did was chill at the TCU,..
The initial objective of SPooNCLOT, was to crash the node in the first place but to have it work in their favour so why defend them when their plan worked just affected the wrong side,..
I missed that thread where GOONSPLOT did the same, but id say the same thing.
Its ****ing stupid, im avoiding large fights and going back to solo pirating in my alt...thats the new end-game
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Nemtar Nataal
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:39:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Kieselguhr Kid so here's what's going to happen if this doesn't get fixed:
1)every piece of 0.0 contestable space except Delve that can possibly be owned by a Euro TZ alliance will be, because under this system the first alliance to set up automatically wins
2)Delve will be invulnerable, not because we can set reinforcement timers for US TZ or anything but because we have a really big alliance and our 300 actives can leave 300 alts AFK in every contested system
this bodes well for the future of this game imo
Funny how you guys didnt seem to mind that the game mechanics were working in your favor when you disbanded BoB 6 months ago, or many times b4 that when GS have used there undestanding of gamemechanics to get and edge on other alliances.
From where im sitting you are getting what is comming to you so maybe you can undestand what you have inflicted on other alliances in the past.
GJ IT even though it was not really a fight as much as it was a slugfest, the people who really failed and who alwayes fail was CCP who didnt fix this issue in time.
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Zatharyn
Minmatar IG Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:46:00 -
[186]
JV1V NEVER FORGET
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Zhalakin
Minmatar Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:55:00 -
[187]
gj on trying to crash the node.
you failed and got owned.
hf!
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Jarnis McPieksu
Gallente Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 11:58:00 -
[188]
Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu on 03/01/2010 11:59:00
Originally by: Kieselguhr Kid so here's what's going to happen if this doesn't get fixed:
1)every piece of 0.0 contestable space except Delve that can possibly be owned by a Euro TZ alliance will be, because under this system the first alliance to set up automatically wins
Not true. L2P around the issue.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1243986&page=6#153
Quote:
2)Delve will be invulnerable, not because we can set reinforcement timers for US TZ or anything but because we have a really big alliance and our 300 actives can leave 300 alts AFK in every contested system
this bodes well for the future of this game imo
Not true. Believe in that and you will lose with your pants down. 300 alts docked in a station do exactly squat zip. 300 alts floating at the station undock do exactly squat. See Jita for proof. Stick those 300 alts on a gate, and you may get a result, assuming the enemy doesn't use another gate or otherwise avoid putting a large number of ships on the same grid on system load. Once they are in system, all bets are off.
Granted, you need to alarmclock hard due to the reinforce timer issue, but otherwise the problem of large fights can be worked around. NC learned and adapted. You can either cry or do the same.
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xenonn
Gallente Blackwater USA Inc. Gentlemen's Club
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:10:00 -
[189]
I laughed myself to sleep last night, what a great start to the new year. I'd be suprised if anyone gets reimbursed. Especially when you knowingly jumped into such a heavily populated system in the hope it would work in your favor. Add to that the fact that your predictable, and dare I say it pathetic local spamming wouldnt have helped your situation. CCP must remain consistant on its decision not to reimburse those of us that have lost their ships to lag in geminate.
The future doesnt look good for the Northern Crumblition and GoonVomit, when your leadership consistantly fail you.
OH! Wheres your Titan Conga line now?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! HAHAHAHA hahahahaha HAAAAAA!!!!
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KInkamache
Caldari Rim Collection RC Zenith Affinity
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:20:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Miss Artica
Originally by: Tithia Jadetiger Pet alliances and their alts crowd into a system.
Wait for the enemy to show up.
Watch them freeze up trying to load grid.
Start shooting the frozen/lagged out ducks in a barrel.
This fight didn't look like anything in the EVE Dominion trailer video.
Is ZAF allowed to post on caod? i thought that right was reserved for goons...
I did not koww you guys existed where u from again?
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ArmyOfMe
Caldari The Athiest Syndicate Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:23:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Jebb Jones
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Originally by: Dianabolic
Your tears are absolutely divine, like a fine fine wine, rolling down your cheeks until they flow down the river of LOL
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RenegadeChemist
Caldari Universal Exports Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:27:00 -
[192]
Edited by: RenegadeChemist on 03/01/2010 12:28:10 Keep kicking ass IT!
*Raises glass*
Originally by: zythyl
AFAIK, Goons / PL tried to enter an unsupported node knowing there were already 600 pilots spinning there ships in there? To add to that, sources tell me that they were spamming local and their plan was to... crash the node and force a re-log; apparently beating IT's loggers and getting into the node first.
Knowing that there is 600 pilots in system wich is NOT reinforced
Jumping in with massive fleet
Spamming local in hope to crash the node
LOOSE TITANS FOR DOING THAT ****ing priceless
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C4w3
Minmatar tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:34:00 -
[193]
Originally by: RenegadeChemist Edited by: RenegadeChemist on 03/01/2010 12:28:10 Keep kicking ass IT!
*Raises glass*
Originally by: zythyl
AFAIK, Goons / PL tried to enter an unsupported node knowing there were already 600 pilots spinning there ships in there? To add to that, sources tell me that they were spamming local and their plan was to... crash the node and force a re-log; apparently beating IT's loggers and getting into the node first.
Knowing that there is 600 pilots in system wich is NOT reinforced
Jumping in with massive fleet
Spamming local in hope to crash the node
LOOSE TITANS FOR DOING THAT ****ing priceless
What this man said ..... i lolled! ANGRY INTERNET GAMING MOBS IRL are bad MKAY!
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Massive Dragon
Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:38:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Manterror
Originally by: CAOD Ambition
Originally by: Manterror IT, you seem to miss the bigger picture.
These guys played a lot of eve to skill up to capital ships, and buy capital ships. They lose their capital ships without a fight...without even seeing a fight.
Not being able to play the "end game" of Eve is a major failing by CCP. Its a failure of services that we all pay for, and soon all alliances on both sides of the war will be up in arms.
So stop pretending that you like this **** and strut around smug as if it was a major strategic victory, it will be you crying tears of pain at some point when your grid doesnt load.
And when that happens GoonSPLOT run around calling it a victory, I think we can all agree lag sucks and needs to be fixed but dont make it sound like GoonSPLOT are above this,..
After all Goons were the ones who created this strategy, except unlike Goons IT dont trash talk local, spam drop drones and mass jump gates to crash, all they did was chill at the TCU,..
The initial objective of SPooNCLOT, was to crash the node in the first place but to have it work in their favour so why defend them when their plan worked just affected the wrong side,..
I missed that thread where GOONSPLOT did the same, but id say the same thing.
Its ****ing stupid, im avoiding large fights and going back to solo pirating in my alt...thats the new end-game
i wasnt aware defiant was invited to "endgame pvp" by goons/pl (and if you where i would find it unsurprising and reaffirming the hypocracy in this thread.
also define major victory, because ive never before seen half a trillion isk lost in one battle and a system taken for reletivley few losses. by any defenition this has to be the most decive and costly battle ever seen in eve.
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Endeva
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:41:00 -
[195]
first we have left side nc cryalition thread (pure blind) then right side nc cryalition (geminate) thread then we have goons cryalition thread , splot cryalition thread and nc alltogether (fountaine). well as i said it before whoever i leaveing game u can contract me your stuff!!!!
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Robskiwarrior
Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 12:59:00 -
[196]
Edited by: Robskiwarrior on 03/01/2010 13:00:17
Originally by: HARYBARY YES. IT are GREAT. Nobody cares that they post fake killmails.
1. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121212 2. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121360
3. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121209 4. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121364
Find differences 1=2 and 3=4.
just a couple of things i picked up on my way around Y-2
Let the bodies hit the floor!!!!
And my favorite
Sexual object
Also i heard that the Dead Titan pilots were defecting to IT, Soooo Goons decided not to jump there's in........C/D ???
Sometimes I think it should be a rule of war that you have to see somebody up close and get to know him before you can shoot him. ~M*A*S*H, Colonel Potter |
NokNok
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 13:03:00 -
[197]
If only it were NC titans
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 13:26:00 -
[198]
Originally by: NokNok If only it were NC titans
If only your alliance was relevant in EVE in any way.
Keep trying Nok, maybe IT will accept you this time, I hear they have dropped their standards low enough (it does not get any lower) to accept ex-tri members.
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Rozanos
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 13:42:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: NokNok If only it were NC titans
If only your alliance was relevant in EVE in any way.
So how are Goons relevant to the game, considering how they are leaving EVE? I applied with an alt to Battlestars, hoping to be a director in a few days considering how you have a bee-mass-exodus. I will try and find out where all the bee's are headed, shouldn't be too hard to follow the trail of tears.
Originally by: Jebb Jones I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
BAWWWWWW
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Drilla
Gallente Yet Another Mining Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.03 13:48:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Oh I remember back in the day were you deliberately crashed the nodes because it was pre-enforce possible and you said learn to live with it.
Lotka Volterra never loaded when we were fighting the GS blob, now taste your own medicine - whiner. .
EVE in maximized windowed mode + taskbar |
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 13:56:00 -
[201]
hey goonies threadnought. go.
like the local threadnought.
i think when local broke and no longer worked the lag got even less for us.
"keep on crying, no one can hear you dying.
so you end up self destructing."
lil twist on akon's song :P
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 13:57:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Rozanos
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: NokNok If only it were NC titans
If only your alliance was relevant in EVE in any way.
So how are Goons relevant to the game, considering how they are leaving EVE? I applied with an alt to Battlestars, hoping to be a director in a few days considering how you have a bee-mass-exodus. I will try and find out where all the bee's are headed, shouldn't be too hard to follow the trail of tears.
Originally by: Jebb Jones I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
BAWWWWWW
Originally by: Rozanos
So how are Goons relevant to the game, considering how they are leaving EVE? I applied with an alt to Battlestars, hoping to be a director in a few days considering how you have a bee-mass-exodus. I will try and find out where all the bee's are headed, shouldn't be too hard to follow the trail of tears.
BAWWWWWW
Even if all the goons left eve and GS was an empty shell like bob is it would still be infinitely better then Tri and tri and tri and tri again.
I hear atlas left you to die in the north (as your every "ally" did in the past) so you came rushing south to seek protection from clownies eating brownies. Afraid to take on NC alone o brave one?
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Rollory
Gallente Viper Intel Squad Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:03:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Metal Dude Let me ask a question. Y-2 is about half way between fountain and Delve. PL & co. could have been bringing people in to the system all day like IT did. It’s not like US people are working, it’s Saturday. So why was it that you waited till late in the day to mass jump in your blob? I mean, with all of the lag threads from up north, you knew that it would be impossible to jump in without lag. Did you think that euro’s were not going to stay up to defend the SCU? Well, in that case you made a strategic error and deserve the losses tbh.
this
Originally by: Aegis Osiris I still don't understand this mentality. There's no WAY that anyone on either side could have expected a different result. Noone can be that stupid...not even with the groups involved here. So why the f**k jump?? You had that many people, and other systems with crap to shoot, towers and stations and hubs to reinforce. There were such better options, you could have turned this around.
and this
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Rozanos
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:03:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna Even if all the goons left eve and GS was an empty shell like bob is it would still be infinitely better then Tri and tri and tri and tri again.
News at 5: Empty shell kills 5 titans. In other News: Red eyes and running noses! Symptoms of a new pandemic amongst bees? Bee keepers are worried.
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NokNok
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:06:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Even if all the goons left eve and GS was an empty shell like bob is it would still be infinitely better then Tri and tri and tri and tri again.
I hear atlas left you to die in the north (as your every "ally" did in the past) so you came rushing south to seek protection from clownies eating brownies. Afraid to take on NC alone o brave one?
Hi Plague Black, you sound bitter. Did Vuk Lau touch you in a bad spot when he kicked you out? Back to the institute with you.
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VonKaplanek III
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:11:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Tholarim Summary:
CCP they had more people then us! FIX THIS NOW PLEASE OR WE LEAVE GAME!!!
Oh the irony in that. It was worth comming back for tbfh.
YAAY, goon/pl tears woke the dead!!!!!
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:16:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Rollory
Originally by: Metal Dude Let me ask a question. Y-2 is about half way between fountain and Delve. PL & co. could have been bringing people in to the system all day like IT did. ItÆs not like US people are working, itÆs Saturday. So why was it that you waited till late in the day to mass jump in your blob? I mean, with all of the lag threads from up north, you knew that it would be impossible to jump in without lag. Did you think that euroÆs were not going to stay up to defend the SCU? Well, in that case you made a strategic error and deserve the losses tbh.
this
Originally by: Aegis Osiris I still don't understand this mentality. There's no WAY that anyone on either side could have expected a different result. Noone can be that stupid...not even with the groups involved here. So why the f**k jump?? You had that many people, and other systems with crap to shoot, towers and stations and hubs to reinforce. There were such better options, you could have turned this around.
and this
srsly rollory stop trolling.
I told you and you have been told. they TRIED to crash the node by jumping in everything. So they'd have a 50/50 chance of getting settled back first and siege the tcu and sacrifice from there. They tried, when local neared 1400 and the local spam started for like an hour.
So it's even more heart breaking for me to see them try so hard and fail...
gf tho gf.
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Rollory
Gallente Viper Intel Squad Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:27:00 -
[208]
Originally by: dracice srsly rollory stop trolling.
I told you and you have been told. they TRIED to crash the node by jumping in everything. So they'd have a 50/50 chance of getting settled back first and siege the tcu and sacrifice from there. They tried, when local neared 1400 and the local spam started for like an hour.
Who's trolling? If I'd been there, I'd have refused to jump. Wouldn't be the first time either.
I'm perfectly willing to believe they were hoping to crash the node. That's beside the point. If the idea was to actually win a fight, there were plenty of better options.
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Jarnis McPieksu
Gallente Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:36:00 -
[209]
Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu on 03/01/2010 14:43:26
Originally by: dracice
I told you and you have been told. they TRIED to crash the node by jumping in everything. So they'd have a 50/50 chance of getting settled back first and siege the tcu and sacrifice from there. They tried, when local neared 1400 and the local spam started for like an hour.
So it's even more heart breaking for me to see them try so hard and fail...
gf tho gf.
Fail.
The these days nodes rarely crash. What happens is that the people who are trying to enter the system lag while their ship loads for everyone else on grid just fine. As far as I know, a NC FC that was present tried to explain this **** to Goons before the failure, but they still jumped everyone into one single grid - which would have caused the result they got even with ZERO REDS (which they pretty much got - just read a battle report that most of the IT fleet stayed at their pos for quite a while after the cynos went up).
You cannot jump/bridge into a grid that has too many ships or the game breaks. Doesn't matter how many people are in system - the only thing that matters is how many ships are on a grid that you are trying to enter from another system. If that number is more than 200-300, you will end up in limbo and your ship will be there to be shot to bits.
So the trick is to spread out your entrance and avoid overloading the landing grid, putting no more than 50-100 ships on a grid at any one time. Once you are in system, there is no problem (well, no more than pre-Dominion) - even entering grids with 600-700 ships work just okay. Little lag, nothing else.
Pretty expensive way to learn this, but what do I know. I'm just a grunt that has fought in half dozen 500+ ship battles post-Dominion and know how this bug works. Goon/PL bigwigs must know better.
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Bruno George
Caldari Sector 5 FREGE
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:43:00 -
[210]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDVEHE10nHc&feature=PlayList&p=F614A7A6461E61E1&index=0
This is what Eve advertises. I was not involved in todays epic lag fest, but the eve subscriber base should not accept extreme lag as part of game play. You cant expect the common folk to accept "you should not jump into a system full of players" or "its your own fault for trying to fight when you know the enemy has 300 plus players in system"
Alliances should be able to fight each other on fair grids that load properly withen a reasonable time, ie, your emergancy cloak after you jump. Anyways pretty lame for both sides, I hope one day EVE will be just like the Dominion Trailer, for now CCP is lying to us.
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 14:44:00 -
[211]
Edited by: dracice on 03/01/2010 14:44:53 ok i believe you.
also i think you should step up in razor and lead fleets, you seem to have the competence and experience.
damn some fool posted 209, while i was writing this and made me 210, which is sniper.
damn you!
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:08:00 -
[212]
Originally by: NokNok
Hi Plague Black, you sound bitter. Did Vuk Lau touch you in a bad spot when he kicked you out? Back to the institute with you.
Ignorant, delusional, useless. I see you haven't changed in Tri one little bit. Perfect future clown I say, get this guy in clownies with brownies.
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King Dave
Gallente The Viral Coercion Phenomenon
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:09:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: NokNok
Hi Plague Black, you sound bitter. Did Vuk Lau touch you in a bad spot when he kicked you out? Back to the institute with you.
Ignorant, delusional, useless. I see you haven't changed in Tri one little bit. Perfect future clown I say, get this guy in clownies with brownies.
u mad?
"Evil Edna > just get director roles, put child **** in the corp bio and then petition ccp" |
Dr Ngo
Amarr Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:10:00 -
[214]
Originally by: HARYBARY YES. IT are GREAT. Nobody cares that they post fake killmails.
1. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121212 2. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121360
3. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121209 4. http://www.it-kills.us/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=121364
Find differences 1=2 and 3=4.
Why those dastardly curs! That's almost as low as shooting blues on dodgy intel
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:15:00 -
[215]
Originally by: King Dave
u mad?
Wrong alt or drugs? Drugs are bad for you it seems?
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slip66
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:20:00 -
[216]
Edited by: slip66 on 03/01/2010 15:21:17
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: Rozanos
So how are Goons relevant to the game, considering how they are leaving EVE? I applied with an alt to Battlestars, hoping to be a director in a few days considering how you have a bee-mass-exodus. I will try and find out where all the bee's are headed, shouldn't be too hard to follow the trail of tears.
BAWWWWWW
I hear atlas left you to die in the north (as your every "ally" did in the past) so you came rushing south to seek protection from clownies eating brownies. Afraid to take on NC alone o brave one?
I hear PLgoons used the batphone to call in the north (as you allways did in the past) So NC came rushing south to try and protect their masters from the clownies easting brownies. Afraid to take on NC alone o brave one?
I can't believe they actually jumped in that much into a non reinforced node. I guess you guys were hoping our euros were going log to off?
Shout out to SOT for making all this possible!
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King Dave
Gallente The Viral Coercion Phenomenon
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:20:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: King Dave
u mad?
Wrong alt or drugs? Drugs are bad for you it seems?
Yeh, probably both of those...
U mad?
"Evil Edna > just get director roles, put child **** in the corp bio and then petition ccp" |
EOH Minigin
Caldari Eve Online Hold'Em ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:21:00 -
[218]
Edited by: EOH Minigin on 03/01/2010 15:25:43
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: NokNok
Hi Plague Black, you sound bitter. Did Vuk Lau touch you in a bad spot when he kicked you out? Back to the institute with you.
Ignorant, delusional, useless. I see you haven't changed in Tri one little bit. Perfect future clown I say, get this guy in clownies with brownies.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!
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Shad0wsFury
Caldari Helljumpers Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:26:00 -
[219]
u mad?
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:30:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: King Dave
u mad?
Wrong alt or drugs? Drugs are bad for you it seems?
u are mad ----------
~bitter dog~
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:34:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Butter Dog
u are mad
Get away from the mirror buttered hog.
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:34:00 -
[222]
matata is leading the charge for the goons on the forums.
go matata.
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Traderjohn
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:35:00 -
[223]
When will CCP address this issue!!!
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:39:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Traderjohn When will CCP address this issue!!!
hahaha
It doesn't take CCP to move people into the system during the day, slowly building up your forces like IT did, so you don't have to jump 700 into 650 who are already loaded and in position.
You guys chose the last, and worst, possible moment to leeroy in. And you paid the inevitable price.
Now, kindly take your e-spaceship whines and tell someone who cares, like your internal forums. You were lazy, inept, and you did something you knew would end badly.
Bravo ----------
~bitter dog~
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EOH Minigin
Caldari Eve Online Hold'Em ISK Six
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:40:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Traderjohn When will CCP address this issue!!!
plague blacks terrible posting?
i demand they unban his main so i dont have to associate a great movie with him.
FREE PLAGUE BLACK!
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:42:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Traderjohn When will CCP address this issue!!!
But it has been working as intended for you guys,.. Lag sucks but lets be real here it would your mission to **** local, mass drop drones and hot jump a system WHILE IT WASNT REINFORCED,.. --
"if at first you don't succeed, call NC!"
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Traderjohn
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:47:00 -
[227]
Edited by: Traderjohn on 03/01/2010 15:48:58
Originally by: Butter Dog
hahaha
It doesn't take CCP to move people into the system during the day, slowly building up your forces like IT did, so you don't have to jump 700 into 650 who are already loaded and in position.
You guys chose the last, and worst, possible moment to leeroy in. And you paid the inevitable price.
Now, kindly take your e-spaceship whines and tell someone who cares, like your internal forums. You were lazy, inept, and you did something you knew would end badly.
Bravo
Mate your a pet, Just dont talk.
SOT lost sov because they failed and we were forced to jump in or lose system without trying. However the game has become a case of who is in system first and not about who has the most ships or what ships they are in. Numbers and FCs now are totally irrelivant. Shooting people at a E warp point isnt skill.
Also, we didnt no one in game knew they would just drop sov. So how can you ask a node to be reinforced. Even when it is, The same issue happens anyways.
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:48:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Butter Dog
hahaha
It doesn't take CCP to move people into the system during the day, slowly building up your forces like IT did, so you don't have to jump 700 into 650 who are already loaded and in position.
Build up your forces as in "log in every alt in y-2 you have and release drones as soon as you see a cyno"? You don't really think that we don't know those details.
You are still irrelevant and annoying mr bloated dog.
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NokNok
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:50:00 -
[229]
Edited by: NokNok on 03/01/2010 15:50:40
Originally by: dracice matata is leading the charge for the goons on the forums.
go matata.
The only thing he's leading is the tinfoil brigade about the climate change hoax.
https://www.4s-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=72815&start=15
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:51:00 -
[230]
Originally by: Traderjohn
Originally by: Butter Dog
hahaha
It doesn't take CCP to move people into the system during the day, slowly building up your forces like IT did, so you don't have to jump 700 into 650 who are already loaded and in position.
You guys chose the last, and worst, possible moment to leeroy in. And you paid the inevitable price.
Now, kindly take your e-spaceship whines and tell someone who cares, like your internal forums. You were lazy, inept, and you did something you knew would end badly.
Bravo
Mate your a pet, Just dont talk.
SOT lost sov because they failed and we were forced to jump in or lose system without trying. However the game has become a case of who is in system first and not about who has the most ships or what ships they are in. Numbers and FCs now are totally irrelivant. Shooting people at a E warp point isnt skill.
Sorry - I must have missed the part where there was a dark, invisible force, which prevented you entering the system during the day and building up your forces like IT did, so you wouldn't have to jump in en-masse at the last possible moment.
Poor you ----------
~bitter dog~
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Doctor Penguin
Amarr Sacred Templars Black Swan.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:51:00 -
[231]
Edited by: Doctor Penguin on 03/01/2010 15:52:09
Originally by: Matata Hakuna Build up your forces as in "log in every alt in y-2 you have and release drones as soon as you see a cyno"? You don't really think that we don't know those details.
You are still irrelevant and annoying mr bloated dog.
If it's not an exploit, it's a valid tactic. And I'm not saying that to support Butter, it's just truth.
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RenegadeChemist
Caldari Universal Exports Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:53:00 -
[232]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Build up your forces as in "log in every alt in y-2 you have and release drones as soon as you see a cyno"? You don't really think that we don't know those details.
Oh the irony on this is STRONG
People remember the famous GS tactics from ages before 'need4speed' and stackless i/o...
But your tears are so sweet that I think I'll bottle up the rest
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LUKEC
Amarr Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 15:54:00 -
[233]
Hey I was also copying bookmarks on all my alts.
Just because I can.
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:00:00 -
[234]
Edited by: Matata Hakuna on 03/01/2010 16:02:15
Originally by: Doctor Penguin Edited by: Doctor Penguin on 03/01/2010 15:52:09
Originally by: Matata Hakuna Build up your forces as in "log in every alt in y-2 you have and release drones as soon as you see a cyno"? You don't really think that we don't know those details.
You are still irrelevant and annoying mr bloated dog.
If it's not an exploit, it's a valid tactic. And I'm not saying that to support Butter, it's just truth.
No one said it is. But it does sound different then "build up forces" doesn't it. Oh and bitter fig is still irrelevant.
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Niker Belli
Gallente Bluebird Wing
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:14:00 -
[235]
Oh tears...
Anyways I'm Kind of glad that IT is back :D
Cheers; Niker
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Great Guardian
Minmatar Amok. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:15:00 -
[236]
2 key points:
1) Decision to jump so many titans into way overcrowded system with node that was not reinforced?
2) CCP's inability to make this game playable for big fleet battles.
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Traderjohn
Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:27:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Great Guardian 2 key points:
1) Decision to jump so many titans into way overcrowded system with node that was not reinforced?
2) CCP's inability to make this game playable for big fleet battles.
/cheers GG
1) If a corp leaves an alliance before downtime, Then all sov at downtime will drop to neutral. So that means you cant ask for a node to be reinforced. SO this means that the attacker has the advantage. According the CCP tho: If you are going to attack a system you must request a node to be reinforced. This doesnt happen. Thus means that the defending entity is forced to act
2) CCP Wanted large fleet battles because it makes more people play. However cant forget the vets who have played this game for years. At which point a large fleet battle isnt fun anymore unless it loads. Sitting for 3 hours watching a blank screen, Then you see damage messages isnt fun.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:31:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna Even if all the goons left eve and GS was an empty shell like bob is it would still be infinitely better then Tri and tri and tri and tri again
Well, er no, little fella. In case you hadn't noticed you guys just broke the record for the most humiliating, gargantuan defeat in any battle in Eve's history. Surely the most ludicrous FC decision ever made?
It's hard to see how anyone can possibly lose any battle as badly as you guys did. We'll still just be laughing at your failure for years and years.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops Facebook profile Rate my posting |
Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:33:00 -
[239]
Ah TJ, who cares. Atlas won all the battles where their enemies didn't load the grid and lost each time when enemy was able to shoot back. Same will happen with clownies with brownies and in the end someone will have to hold "time to evacuate to empire" speech all over again.
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Varesk
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:33:00 -
[240]
you all should go on the test server on tuesday and help ccp fix this problem. the link for the test in on the main page.
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Rozanos
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:36:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Traderjohn 1) If a corp leaves an alliance before downtime, Then all sov at downtime will drop to neutral. So that means you cant ask for a node to be reinforced. SO this means that the attacker has the advantage. According the CCP tho: If you are going to attack a system you must request a node to be reinforced. This doesnt happen. Thus means that the defending entity is forced to act
Yea right, so you must petition nodes or you must not dare to fight there anyway, right? Where the f**k did you pull that out of, if I may know?
"Planning a large fleet fight? Please let us know" <- sure sounds like its a mandatory thing to do if you want any large-scale PVP. Also, as petitions MUST (and this is a real must) be handed in 24h before the fight occurs (so they can reinforce it during DT), I doubt IT is to blame if they don't anticipate every leave a corp from SPLOT takes.
The blame can be shared equally by the leaving corp, the alliance leadership and communication with allies, as preparations could have helped the defender to have the upper hand. We all know some of the ****tier game mechanics, but most of us learned to play around them. No point in crying now, since we're all sitting in the same boat.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:37:00 -
[242]
Originally by: Traderjohn
Originally by: Great Guardian 2 key points:
1) Decision to jump so many titans into way overcrowded system with node that was not reinforced?
2) CCP's inability to make this game playable for big fleet battles.
/cheers GG
1) If a corp leaves an alliance before downtime, Then all sov at downtime will drop to neutral. So that means you cant ask for a node to be reinforced. SO this means that the attacker has the advantage. According the CCP tho: If you are going to attack a system you must request a node to be reinforced. This doesnt happen. Thus means that the defending entity is forced to act
2) CCP Wanted large fleet battles because it makes more people play. However cant forget the vets who have played this game for years. At which point a large fleet battle isnt fun anymore unless it loads. Sitting for 3 hours watching a blank screen, Then you see damage messages isnt fun.
As people keep pointing you, and you keep failing to understand - everyone had equal notice of sov dropping. Anyone could have been the 'attacker' as you put it - technically there was no defender since sov was neutral.
The fact is that IT took the initiative and got in the system first, and stayed in there. You, on the other hand, waited until the last possible moment to bridge everyone in. And everyone knows how that works out, but you decided to do it anyway, and everyone could have predicted the result.
The mistake was yours, not CCP's or anyone elses. You didn't get in system earlier, you let IT take the initiative. That was your choice, not CCP's.
And anyway, you didn't have to jump in at all. Check your alliance ticker. Why should the NC care what happens in Y-2, it's precisely zero threat to you whoever owns that station. When you combine all these considerations - not getting in system earlier, bridging everyone in at once, knowing how lag favours those already in position, the system being irrelevant to the NC anyway... well, it's shockingly stupid that you decided to bridge in anyway and hope for the best.
Stop crying and learn from your mistakes
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~bitter dog~
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:39:00 -
[243]
Originally by: General Windypops
Well, er no, little fella. In case you hadn't noticed you guys just broke the record for the most humiliating, gargantuan defeat in any battle in Eve's history. Surely the most ludicrous FC decision ever made?
It's hard to see how anyone can possibly lose any battle as badly as you guys did. We'll still just be laughing at your failure for years and years.
You mean the way people are laughing at the relevance of your alliance in eve? If this is the case I would be upset as it would be very humiliating to drop down to your level. Maybe I'll go to PR and not undock for 2 months.
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:44:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Stop crying and learn from your mistakes
You are still posting despite your posts being one huge mistake so who are you to tell others to learn from their mistakes?
Ah butter log you are too easy to pick on. I feel like Sergei Bubka on special Olympics. Which makes you special
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Slap Chop
Minmatar Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:45:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Traderjohn When will CCP address this issue!!!
hahaha
It doesn't take CCP to move people into the system during the day, slowly building up your forces like IT did, so you don't have to jump 700 into 650 who are already loaded and in position.
You guys chose the last, and worst, possible moment to leeroy in. And you paid the inevitable price.
Now, kindly take your e-spaceship whines and tell someone who cares, like your internal forums. You were lazy, inept, and you did something you knew would end badly.
Bravo
Don't you get a court-martial or somethin' like that for breaking character?
CAPSULEER!
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:47:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: Butter Dog
Stop crying and learn from your mistakes
You are still posting despite your posts being one huge mistake so who are you to tell others to learn from their mistakes?
Ah butter log you are too easy to pick on. I feel like Sergei Bubka on special Olympics. Which makes you special
Your trolls are not very funny, fyi... just... odd
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~bitter dog~
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Grath Telkin
Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:48:00 -
[247]
Edited by: Grath Telkin on 03/01/2010 16:48:53
Originally by: Butter Dog
The fact is that IT took the initiative and got in the system first, and stayed in there. You, on the other hand, waited until the last possible moment to bridge everyone in. And everyone knows how that works out, but you decided to do it anyway, and everyone could have predicted the result.
The mistake was yours, not CCP's or anyone elses. You didn't get in system earlier, you let IT take the initiative. That was your choice, not CCP's.
And anyway, you didn't have to jump in at all. Check your alliance ticker. Why should the NC care what happens in Y-2, it's precisely zero threat to you whoever owns that station. When you combine all these considerations - not getting in system earlier, bridging everyone in at once, knowing how lag favours those already in position, the system being irrelevant to the NC anyway... well, it's shockingly stupid that you decided to bridge in anyway and hope for the best.
Stop crying and learn from your mistakes
Normally I ignore just about every word you say, as you are quite possibly the dumbest mother****er on these forums, with windy running a close 2nd, but i'll address you directly this once.
I put the important part in bold print.
Thats all you need to do to win a fight in Dominion.
The defender, timers and all, stands no chance, so long as the attacker is simply IN THE SYSTEM first.
Also, stop acting like IT trickled forces in all day, they jumped in everything they had THE SECOND they discovered Sov was down. There was never a chance to move forces down slowly. The system was packed with 600 screaming ***gots all day.
But according to you, it was our choice to jump in, we made that choice, and it was our fault. I expect that most alliances in EVE will now learn from this, and if the attacker is in the system first you should just pack your **** and go home cause CCP have made sure there is NO WAY your actually getting a chance at defending your system.
All in all butter, your just an inactive bitter ***got who has no real idea what went on, whats going on, or what will happen, since you pay 15 bucks a month for forum posting rights.
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Nova Soldier
Caldari ROMANIA Renegades Primary.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:49:00 -
[248]
So is this the end of PL? I mean 5 titans are something.
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:52:00 -
[249]
i was present at the fleet.
we were not ordered to release drones on any cyno. but go ahead thinking that it was a good idea to come in, bring goon titans next time when you try again, you know what they say? tri and tri again right?
we were in fact ordered to pull in drones to ease lag on the system.
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:53:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Grath Telkin Edited by: Grath Telkin on 03/01/2010 16:48:53
Originally by: Butter Dog
The fact is that IT took the initiative and got in the system first, and stayed in there. You, on the other hand, waited until the last possible moment to bridge everyone in. And everyone knows how that works out, but you decided to do it anyway, and everyone could have predicted the result.
The mistake was yours, not CCP's or anyone elses. You didn't get in system earlier, you let IT take the initiative. That was your choice, not CCP's.
And anyway, you didn't have to jump in at all. Check your alliance ticker. Why should the NC care what happens in Y-2, it's precisely zero threat to you whoever owns that station. When you combine all these considerations - not getting in system earlier, bridging everyone in at once, knowing how lag favours those already in position, the system being irrelevant to the NC anyway... well, it's shockingly stupid that you decided to bridge in anyway and hope for the best.
Stop crying and learn from your mistakes
Normally I ignore just about every word you say, as you are quite possibly the dumbest mother****er on these forums, with windy running a close 2nd, but i'll address you directly this once.
tr:dr
I am upset I wasnt first,.. --
"if at first you don't succeed, call NC!"
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:54:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
an inactive bitter ***got who has no real idea what went on, whats going on, or what will happen, since you pay 15 bucks a month for forum posting rights.
in other words, I'd fit right into PL ----------
~bitter dog~
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:54:00 -
[252]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Your trolls are not very funny, fyi... just... odd
So your sense of humor equals your posting abilities. I'm not really surprised.
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Grath Telkin
Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:56:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Grath Telkin
an inactive bitter ***got who has no real idea what went on, whats going on, or what will happen, since you pay 15 bucks a month for forum posting rights.
in other words, I'd fit right into PL
We are currently accepting apps, just sayin, one afk alliance is as good as another right?
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:59:00 -
[254]
Edited by: Metal Dude on 03/01/2010 17:01:44
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Also, stop acting like IT trickled forces in all day, they jumped in everything they had THE SECOND they discovered Sov was down. There was never a chance to move forces down slowly. The system was packed with 600 screaming ***gots all day.
That's a lie. IT had no more then 100-200 people in the system most of the day and did not jump in 600 as soon as sov dropped. Keep spinning your excuses for your failed strategy. Hell, even Panda maneged to get in to the system and get some kills. <3 u, Panda.
The truth will set you free
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Lasakywa
Caldari Section XIII
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:59:00 -
[255]
Edited by: Lasakywa on 03/01/2010 17:00:06
Originally by: Traderjohn When will CCP address this issue!!!
Multiple Tests on Lag, to compare Dominion and Pre-Dominion. Show up
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Jarnis McPieksu
Gallente Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 16:59:00 -
[256]
Originally by: dracice i was present at the fleet.
we were not ordered to release drones on any cyno. but go ahead thinking that it was a good idea to come in, bring goon titans next time when you try again, you know what they say? tri and tri again right?
we were in fact ordered to pull in drones to ease lag on the system.
What you did/didn't do in other grids had little or no effect on the grid with the cynos. The only thing that matters with this bug is the number of ships on the grid where you try to enter the system at.
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slip66
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:01:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Normally I ignore just about every word you say, as you are quite possibly the dumbest mother****er on these forums, with windy running a close 2nd, but i'll address you directly this once.
I put the important part in bold print.
Thats all you need to do to win a fight in Dominion.
The defender, timers and all, stands no chance, so long as the attacker is simply IN THE SYSTEM first.
Also, stop acting like IT trickled forces in all day, they jumped in everything they had THE SECOND they discovered Sov was down. There was never a chance to move forces down slowly. The system was packed with 600 screaming ***gots all day.
Is that what they are telling you?
We moved people in early yes but NOT 600. MANY came in just before we killed the goon pos. Even then we had 300... over the next hours is when we hit the high numbers. So you had time to get in forces piece meal, we did have some active gate camps but not 600 plus you are claiming.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:02:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna You mean the way people are laughing at the relevance of your alliance in eve?
No. Sometimes people poke a bit of fun at lol rp alliances, but ultimately most people just leave us to it. You guys, on the other hand, now have the record for he greatest single defeat in eve history. Twitter:@genrlwindypops Facebook profile Rate my posting |
Grath Telkin
Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:08:00 -
[259]
Edited by: Grath Telkin on 03/01/2010 17:08:56
Originally by: Metal Dude
That's a lie. IT had no more then 100-200 people in the system most of the day and did not jump in 600 as soon as sov dropped.
Wait really?
Cause thats not what AJ Regard is saying on scrapheap:
Originally by: AJ Regard Saturday 2nd of January: So SOT decided to drop sov in Y-2 during the afternoon, so we ninja onlined a TCU in the system. We proceeded to online some towers in the system, to get staging points.
We jumped everything we had into system continuously, titans/capitals/fleet.
We spend most of the afternoon/early evening reinforcing the hostiles pos's in this system, incapping the guns and taking the station. We bubbled down the gates with large t2, and started up our camp fires.
The initial plan on our part was to try and keep the hostiles from killing our TCU for as long as possible. We didn't need to keep it alive until 03:xx, we needed to buy enough time so we would have time AFTER dt on Sunday to kill the TCU, that way hostile numbers wouldn't be great. The actual time we could defend the TCU for, would ofc depend on ours and hostile numbers, so we would have to see what happened
Pretty sure your either clueless, or full of ****.
Edit: If you want, i can put the rest of that post in to finish off closing down the lies, cause it lists out rough estimates of what you put in the system.
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:15:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: AJ Regard
We jumped everything we had into system continuously, titans/capitals/fleet.
Pretty sure your either clueless, or full of ****.
Edit: If you want, i can put the rest of that post in to finish off closing down the lies, cause it lists out rough estimates of what you put in the system.
Do you know what "continuously" mean? Obviously you don't since you didn't do it yourself and that's why you got owned. Cry some more please. We love it.
The truth will set you free
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:17:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Grath Telkin Edited by: Grath Telkin on 03/01/2010 17:08:56
Originally by: Metal Dude
That's a lie. IT had no more then 100-200 people in the system most of the day and did not jump in 600 as soon as sov dropped.
Wait really?
Cause thats not what AJ Regard is saying on scrapheap:
Originally by: AJ Regard Saturday 2nd of January: So SOT decided to drop sov in Y-2 during the afternoon, so we ninja onlined a TCU in the system. We proceeded to online some towers in the system, to get staging points.
We jumped everything we had into system continuously, titans/capitals/fleet.
We spend most of the afternoon/early evening reinforcing the hostiles pos's in this system, incapping the guns and taking the station. We bubbled down the gates with large t2, and started up our camp fires.
The initial plan on our part was to try and keep the hostiles from killing our TCU for as long as possible. We didn't need to keep it alive until 03:xx, we needed to buy enough time so we would have time AFTER dt on Sunday to kill the TCU, that way hostile numbers wouldn't be great. The actual time we could defend the TCU for, would ofc depend on ours and hostile numbers, so we would have to see what happened
Pretty sure your either clueless, or full of ****.
Edit: If you want, i can put the rest of that post in to finish off closing down the lies, cause it lists out rough estimates of what you put in the system.
It also says GoonSPLOT called NC down too, IT only brought in 'more' people because you guys were planning to overblob again,..
Next time either fight your own battles or dont be stupid enough to jump in a system with 600 people with local spamming as your only tactic,.. --
"if at first you don't succeed, call NC!"
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Grath Telkin
Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude That's a lie. IT had no more then 100-200 people in the system most of the day and did not jump in 600 as soon as sov dropped.
Originally by: Metal Dude We jumped everything we had into system continuously, titans/capitals/fleet.
Im sorry, I can't hear over the sound of how wrong you are
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Dez Affinity
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:19:00 -
[263]
Originally by: CAOD Ambition to jump in a system with 600 people with local spamming as your only tactic,..
What else can you do when your **** doesn't load for 3 hours. Shoot people?
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Makkana
Minmatar Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:19:00 -
[264]
Bad call from the FC crew. Especially since one of us warned them of what will be happening.
Ofc in the past all sides benefitted from the "same" poor perfoming mechanics. In Max campaign we obliterated BoB in M-O when the node crashed and dropped a major portion of the enemy fleet and few of us. Severe lag saved Shrikes Titan in Delve MK1 when we were converging on it in 49-. Lag was horrific 5 jumps out of the target system. Also in the first delve invasion we couldnt load grid in qy6 because BoB had 300 guys on grid with drones + fighters out.
Dont misuderstand me. Im not judging it as un-hounorable tactics , because i know that if a party can exploit a situation or a broken mechanic in his favor he will , blues or reds.
Broken mechanics r not fights though. Dont present them as such.
On the other hand u cant blame the enemy for your mistake. They simply made the most out of a really, really bad call.
Having that said i seriously hope that ccp fix this mess cause its at least a fubar situation. Eves endgame is the fleet fights on a large scale. As the system stands large fleet slugfests of epic proportions and tactical manuevering in the combat zone is just impossible. In other words its impossible to play eves end game. Right? At least one of the 2 fleets cant play :P I wont go as far as to whine "I am quiting eve" , but i will say that this is to say the least comical. Advertize large scale fleet fights and a new expansion that will put pace in tha game , and deliver a broken code that forces the fight into a stand still , meaning that if the defender is on position on the gate with moderate numbers (400 pilots) the game transforms to WWI and we just look each other from our ditches. That static.
So it becomes something like alarm clock "move everything in that system before they do" ops and not that briliant dominion trailer. I hope u dont hold it against us ccp the fact that when we see dominion trailer we laugh ironically.
Happy new year to all blues and reds. And to our enemies : U handle yourselves well with the system as it is right now. Lets see when (if) it is fixed how things will go . Looking forward to non lag fights with you all.
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elnukeo
Minmatar Mnemonic Enterprises
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:20:00 -
[265]
So does this mean some goons are gonna be leaving out of spite? I think this was CCP's plan all along...
eve will be a better place !
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:24:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Metal Dude That's a lie. IT had no more then 100-200 people in the system most of the day and did not jump in 600 as soon as sov dropped.
Originally by: Metal Dude We jumped everything we had into system continuously, titans/capitals/fleet.
Im sorry, I can't hear over the sound of how wrong you are
I was there most of the day watching out numbers rise steadily. Were you? No? What a surprise.
The truth will set you free
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Lensver
Caldari FREE GATES HUN Reloaded
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:24:00 -
[267]
Cry more guys
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:24:00 -
[268]
exactly, we werent even on your grid to lag you out with drones when you cynoed in.
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:26:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Lensver Cry more guys
Wohoo one more relevant fanboi makes his appearance.
I was just kidding about the relevant part, in case you have sense of humor equal to IT military skills.
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Massive Dragon
Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:31:00 -
[270]
Edited by: Massive Dragon on 03/01/2010 17:31:42
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: Butter Dog
Your trolls are not very funny, fyi... just... odd
So your sense of humor equals your posting abilities. I'm not really surprised.
you are the first (and likely the only person) i will ever have been able to call an alt of with nothing but a line of posting. i litteraly thought to myself while reading it "there is no way anyone is this dumb... unless..." and then i made the connection to your main.
for all your **** talking of how irrelevant other people and alliances are, the only reason you are even remotely well known in eve anymore plague... is well... because of this thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1210484
and no offence... but you look like a total moron there... here... and everywhere else you post.
of course the irony here is you think you are being funny, and you actually are... but again not because you are saying anything smart or correct.
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:34:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Massive Dragon
you are the first (and likely the only person) i will ever have been able to call an alt of with nothing but a line of posting. i litteraly thought to myself while reading it "there is no way anyone is this dumb... unless..." and then i made the connection to your main.
for all your **** talking of how irrelevant other people and alliances are, the only reason you are even remotely well known in eve anymore plague... is well... because of this thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1210484
and no offence... but you look like a total moron there... here... and everywhere else you post.
of course the irony here is you think you are being funny, and you actually are... but again not because you are saying anything smart or correct.
Posting in limegreen does not add any value to your posts. I doubt that united colors of Benetton would be able to add any value to anything you do in EVE either.
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Fat Ducker
Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:35:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Metal Dude That's a lie. IT had no more then 100-200 people in the system most of the day and did not jump in 600 as soon as sov dropped.
Originally by: Metal Dude We jumped everything we had into system continuously, titans/capitals/fleet.
Im sorry, I can't hear over the sound of how wrong you are
Had these events transpired the other way round, I seriously doubt that bitter dude could come across more bitter and butt-hurt than you.
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:35:00 -
[273]
SOT hasnt foolishly lost any of their remaining 2 stations today,.. Now thats SHOCKING!! --
"if at first you don't succeed, call NC!"
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:37:00 -
[274]
did sot fail cascade over IT? hurley? or both...
seems alot of people once they found out how the hurley incident went down didn't like it.
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Massive Dragon
Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:41:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: Massive Dragon
you are the first (and likely the only person) i will ever have been able to call an alt of with nothing but a line of posting. i litteraly thought to myself while reading it "there is no way anyone is this dumb... unless..." and then i made the connection to your main.
for all your **** talking of how irrelevant other people and alliances are, the only reason you are even remotely well known in eve anymore plague... is well... because of this thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1210484
and no offence... but you look like a total moron there... here... and everywhere else you post.
of course the irony here is you think you are being funny, and you actually are... but again not because you are saying anything smart or correct.
Posting in limegreen does not add any value to your posts. I doubt that united colors of Benetton would be able to add any value to anything you do in EVE either.
Posting a laughing smiley does not make your post any funnier or more true. I doubt that any number of smileys would be able to live up to the expectations you seem to have of your posting or your ability in game.
you clearly wont understand what i did there.
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Taksimm Blaak
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:42:00 -
[276]
Edited by: Taksimm Blaak on 03/01/2010 17:43:16
Originally by: Grath Telkin Edited by: Grath Telkin on 03/01/2010 16:48:53
Normally I ignore just about every word you say, as you are quite possibly the dumbest mother****er on these forums, with windy running a close 2nd, but i'll address you directly this once.
I put the important part in bold print.
Thats all you need to do to win a fight in Dominion.
The defender, timers and all, stands no chance, so long as the attacker is simply IN THE SYSTEM first.
Also, stop acting like IT trickled forces in all day, they jumped in everything they had THE SECOND they discovered Sov was down. There was never a chance to move forces down slowly. The system was packed with 600 screaming ***gots all day.
But according to you, it was our choice to jump in, we made that choice, and it was our fault. I expect that most alliances in EVE will now learn from this, and if the attacker is in the system first you should just pack your **** and go home cause CCP have made sure there is NO WAY your actually getting a chance at defending your system.
All in all butter, your just an inactive bitter ***got who has no real idea what went on, whats going on, or what will happen, since you pay 15 bucks a month for forum posting rights.
I can actually sympathise with both sides of the 'lag' argument, but:
a) The post by Butter Dog you're responding to here is reasoned and makes sense. b) Your response doesn't actually succeed in refuting the points made by Butter Dog (nor does any other post here). c) Overuse of the word '***got' (which actually means some kind of meatball!) by PL members, is not clever nor does it make you tough. Is it's use mandatory within PL for some weird reason?
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Grath Telkin
Amarr The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:44:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Fat Ducker
Originally by: Grath Telkin
Originally by: Metal Dude That's a lie. IT had no more then 100-200 people in the system most of the day and did not jump in 600 as soon as sov dropped.
Originally by: Metal Dude We jumped everything we had into system continuously, titans/capitals/fleet.
Im sorry, I can't hear over the sound of how wrong you are
Had these events transpired the other way round, I seriously doubt that bitter dude could come across more bitter and butt-hurt than you.
Your right, Im pretty butthurt, and Metal is right, I wasn't there yesterday.
I think I have a pretty good reason to be butthurt, and not be there yesterday:
The game isn't worth playing since Dominion released.
Lag at every singel operation of the fleet window, lag at jumps, docks, undocks, target locks, warps, dropping out of warps, loading grids.
And not like before, they almost had it man, we were packing 1k people into unreinforced nodes and having kick ass fights, then december 1st comes a long and 200 people in a system can make it unplayable.
What the christ.
How can they **** it up so very badly?
Had the events transpired the other way around, I still wouldn't have been logged in because the game is just not fun right now.
There are no fights, there is no strategy, the intrigue is all just your ****ing ego's in competition because your stuck in a game that is totally broken for both sides:
Attackers have ******ed timers to deal with that when properly set create enormous timezone wars that make POS warfare look like a wet dream
Defenders have to have precognition, knowing what system will get hit, they then need to be able to keep that system locked down and loaded with people, AND still protect the other systems they control in the same manner.
To top it all off, any time we attempt to have anything resembling a fight that we've had in the past year +, we get frame raping spikes of lag and siezures of epic proportions, and then blank screens.
Unlike most of you, I actually REALLY like this game, and to see it in this state does infact make me butthurt and bitter.
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Dez Affinity
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:46:00 -
[278]
Originally by: Taksimm Blaak
c) Overuse of the word '***got' (which actually means some kind of meatball!) by PL members, is not clever nor does it make you tough. Is it's use mandatory within PL for some weird reason?
Stop being a ***got. _______________
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Dengen Krastinov
Amarr Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:47:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: skulled
Originally by: Vasili Z
Originally by: skulled They will be reimbursed, like Shrike's 2nd or 3rd (?) titan.
I guarantee it.
sry, nope
The last person to say that was rather publicly embarrassed. Sure you want to go down that road?
Over half a trillion isks worth of titans was lost without people being able to load grid or move. Do you really think CCP will allow that to stand?
Lets see shall we?
They won't get reimbursed.
The lag issues in fleet fights are not new, and we all know about lag in Dominion. If they reinburse the losses, they will have to retrospectively reiumburse all of NC's losses in Geminate against ATLAS too. And do so in any large, laggy fights going forward. It simply won't happen. Fact.
The precedent has already been set, and it wasn't set tonight.
This ^^
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Taksimm Blaak
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.03 17:58:00 -
[280]
Originally by: Dez Affinity
Originally by: Taksimm Blaak
c) Overuse of the word '***got' (which actually means some kind of meatball!) by PL members, is not clever nor does it make you tough. Is it's use mandatory within PL for some weird reason?
Stop being a ***got.
Damn, I walked right into that one
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Niker Belli
Gallente Bluebird Wing
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:01:00 -
[281]
Edited by: Niker Belli on 03/01/2010 18:01:41 The way I see it;
GoonSPLOT is angry about dominion lagging.
IT had biggest win in EVE history
GoonSPLOT tried to crash node, spamming local, since they already knew that when they warped in, they wouldn't load grid.
Now my question is, Why try? Why try if you are going to cry so much?
The way I see it, IT got the win. I didn't See ANYONE crying over what happened to NC.
I'm Sure that IT will also have problems with this, But not when Your plan is to sacrifice ships like that.
I mean, EVERYONE and surely your FC's knew that the grid wouldn't load.
So Take it like a man, if you are, and just admit that your tactic failed.
You knew the risks, gamble failed.
CHeers; Niker
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Myz Toyou
Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:05:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Niker Belli I didn't See ANYONE crying over what happened to NC.
This must be a troll
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Hatsim
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:09:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Manterror IT, you seem to miss the bigger picture.
These guys played a lot of eve to skill up to capital ships, and buy capital ships. They lose their capital ships without a fight...without even seeing a fight.
Not being able to play the "end game" of Eve is a major failing by CCP. Its a failure of services that we all pay for, and soon all alliances on both sides of the war will be up in arms.
So stop pretending that you like this **** and strut around smug as if it was a major strategic victory, it will be you crying tears of pain at some point when your grid doesnt load.
U forgot the game mechanic that caused the fall of BOB? HI HAARGOTH! :D "imagine a dozen hornets pouring from the devil's mouth, Now imagine they have autocannons."
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Fat Ducker
Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:18:00 -
[284]
Originally by: Grath Telkin *lots*
I agree with the majority of what you said, I remember the terrible loading lag from fighting in Y-2ANO. In Delve I, not long after the trinity patch.
But (a big one, even bigger than angels) when you write this just after the worst defeat in eve history, how does it come across. Additionally, PL has had difficulty getting people to log in long before Dominion.
Lastly, I don't remember you having a problem with retaking I1Y during Delve II, simply by getting more people into system in advance of your opponents.
Frankly it's a good job you stopped writing when you did, you were about 2 mins away from complaining about the lack of e-honour, and how the codes of space-bushido were violated.
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:25:00 -
[285]
Remove ability to set any standings(red or blue)/NAPs what so ever. Either you are in the alliance or you are NBSI.
-Viola-
No more 1000 vs. 1000 crap (at least for a while) and 0.0 gets really interesting.
Pr0/Fail?
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the Poet
Minmatar Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:27:00 -
[286]
From the JV1V thread
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Deal with it.
Shamis.
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Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:30:00 -
[287]
Originally by: Massive Dragon
you clearly wont understand what i did there. [/limegreen]
Oh I do, you spammed rubish as usual.
You are even easier to beat then margarine mouse. Limegreen fetishism will be the end of you I'm afraid.
Oh and here is another smiley just so you can sleep well tonigh
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Legio Praetor
Amarr The Green Machine Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:32:00 -
[288]
Originally by: King Dave
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: NokNok
Hi Plague Black, you sound bitter. Did Vuk Lau touch you in a bad spot when he kicked you out? Back to the institute with you.
Ignorant, delusional, useless. I see you haven't changed in Tri one little bit. Perfect future clown I say, get this guy in clownies with brownies.
u mad?
Nah hes a Goonswine member... They are all dumb tards that think they are relevant. Fact is, majority of 0.0 eve propped them up and only a disbanded bob allowed them any kind of victory. Now their old "friends" are being torn a new one and goons will soon be next. No amount of spin can change that fact.
Do keep trying though, we all love your QQ
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Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:46:00 -
[289]
It should be an exploit to undertake a system invasion of this scale without reinforcing the node first. Nothing of this scale in Eve happens totally without premedititation, and the honor system doesn't hold when the aggressors are rewarded so significantly for not petitioning the node they're going to invade tomorrow.
Making it an exploit would be a hamfisted response, too, but I don't really see how else to stop this from happening until CCP can figure out how to reinforce nodes dynamically/on the fly. And CCP loves hamfisted responses, like bulk-mailing a form letter to everyone who petitioned for reimbursement last night on the grounds that lag affected everyone equally in Y-2.
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Leeluvv
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:49:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae It should be an exploit to undertake a system invasion of this scale without reinforcing the node first.
IT were already in system and you invaded their defensive position. By your logic, you would be the exploiters! Fail much?
Originally by: Doctor Mabuse A wife is just a T2 GF. They're more expensive and their resists are higher
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Massive Dragon
Gallente NoobFleet G00DFELLAS
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:51:00 -
[291]
Edited by: Massive Dragon on 03/01/2010 18:52:26
Originally by: Matata Hakuna
Originally by: Massive Dragon
you clearly wont understand what i did there.
Oh I do, you spammed rubish as usual.
You are even easier to beat then margarine mouse. Limegreen fetishism will be the end of you I'm afraid.
Oh and here is another smiley just so you can sleep well tonigh
wow you actually are ******ed... and here i was thinking goonfleet didnt take pubbies.
(obligatory winning caod special olympics reference)
edit: i bet you dont even see the irony/hypocracy of your post.
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Marlona Sky
Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:52:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Itshouldbeanexploitto
Fresh batch of tear incoming guys!!!
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 18:52:00 -
[293]
Edited by: General Windypops on 03/01/2010 18:52:21
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae It should be an exploit to undertake a system invasion of this scale without reinforcing the node first.
Again, from the JV1V thread
Originally by: "Shamis Orzoz" Deal with it.
Shamis.
Mind you what IT did do you guys makes the JV1V thing loook total small fry.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops Facebook profile Rate my posting |
Matata Hakuna
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:00:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Massive Dragon
.. and here i was thinking goonfleet didnt take pubbies.
So you never applied?
Again...... please again...
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:02:00 -
[295]
Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 03/01/2010 19:03:42
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Boo hoo
DEAL WITH IT DEAL WITH IT DEAL WITH IT
~wanders around undefended Delve/Querious padding kb stats~
~fofofofofofofofofofofofo~
Now quit and go home already.
**EDIT**btw please thank Rho dudes for Vaga bpo.
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Varesk
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:03:00 -
[296]
Why dont you all log in to the test server and help CCP fix this problem, go to general discussion and read the "Lag Monster" thread.
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Presidio
Minmatar Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:11:00 -
[297]
Given that everyone in EVE by now knows the state of the post Dominion nodes, this has to be called for what it is. A well executed titan suicide.
Good job for jumping titans into a crowded system which hasn't been reinforced. A system with no friendly POSes nonetheless.
Any way to find out who made the call to jump in? I would love to know -
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SpongeSlog
Caldari Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:15:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Varesk
Why dont you all log in to the test server and help CCP fix this problem, go to general discussion and read the "Lag Monster" thread.
If CCP agreed to let me play for free then I would agree to Beta test their crappy code and fix their completely broken QA testing process that allowed a piece of **** like Dominion be released in the first place.
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Betty Boom
Caldari SPECTRE Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:15:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Presidio
Any way to find out who made the call to jump in? I would love to know
Me too. 'Best of NC' ?
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VonKaplanek III
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:22:00 -
[300]
Edited by: VonKaplanek III on 03/01/2010 19:22:10
Originally by: Grath Telkin
The game isn't worth playing since Dominion released.
Coincidently that is when you guys started your massive failcascade. But I assume that is is pure coincidence and not really relevant to your butthurt feelings.
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:23:00 -
[301]
fact is, im glad your grid failed. i hope all your future grids fail and I hope any other grids you are on never ever load.
deal with it.
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:25:00 -
[302]
Haha. You lost your titans. And your Goon members have the nerve to complain that it wasn't a fight?!?!?!
It was a better fight than disbanding BOB I assure you -- and there was FRAPS goodness. Yea I just fap'd to it. Not even gonna lie.
And your tears taste like old hamburger. Try eating some fruits and veggies every once and awhile.
Be well!
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Varesk
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:25:00 -
[303]
Originally by: SpongeSlog
Originally by: Varesk
Why dont you all log in to the test server and help CCP fix this problem, go to general discussion and read the "Lag Monster" thread.
If CCP agreed to let me play for free then I would agree to Beta test their crappy code and fix their completely broken QA testing process that allowed a piece of **** like Dominion be released in the first place.
There "Crappy" QA testing is crappy because people like you cannot get your own e-peen out of your ass and log in to test new code. There were many Tests pre-dominion on the test server. Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in.
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:28:00 -
[304]
could i get you guys to help me on kg, they say i **** post when i bring up pl/goon transgressions of the past.
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SpongeSlog
Caldari Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:29:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Varesk
Originally by: SpongeSlog
Originally by: Varesk
Why dont you all log in to the test server and help CCP fix this problem, go to general discussion and read the "Lag Monster" thread.
If CCP agreed to let me play for free then I would agree to Beta test their crappy code and fix their completely broken QA testing process that allowed a piece of **** like Dominion be released in the first place.
There "Crappy" QA testing is crappy because people like you cannot get your own e-peen out of your ass and log in to test new code. There were many Tests pre-dominion on the test server. Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in.
There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them.
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Sergeant Shafto
Caldari BulletProof Monks
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Originally by: dracice did sot fail cascade over IT? hurley? or both...
seems alot of people once they found out how the hurley incident went down didn't like it.
SOT fail cascaded because it had no leadership.
1. For first couple weeks of invasion 99% of SOT members were keen and excited about fighting, but no leadership, despite having some great FCs, meant barely any ops and eventually players and corps got fed up with lack of anything at all. 2. 99% of members didn't really give a sh*t about Hurley, I didn't because I never once saw him in any fleet, or ever see him talk in chat, ever.
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Varesk
Gallente Maelstrom Crew Underworld Excavators
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: SpongeSlog
Originally by: Varesk
Originally by: SpongeSlog
Originally by: Varesk
Why dont you all log in to the test server and help CCP fix this problem, go to general discussion and read the "Lag Monster" thread.
If CCP agreed to let me play for free then I would agree to Beta test their crappy code and fix their completely broken QA testing process that allowed a piece of **** like Dominion be released in the first place.
There "Crappy" QA testing is crappy because people like you cannot get your own e-peen out of your ass and log in to test new code. There were many Tests pre-dominion on the test server. Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in.
There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them.
Wow, since you know how they test, you should have logged in to the test server to help them.
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:35:00 -
[308]
ok so you were just blowing a comb in the mean while whilst everyone was blue.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:36:00 -
[309]
Originally by: SpongeSlog
There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them.
hahaha
oh please, spare us the crocodile tears about server performance
you guys have happily used lag and node crashes deliberately to gain advantage many times in the past - deal with it
(or carry on weeping and entertain us)
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Thesalaus
Amarr Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 19:39:00 -
[310]
Shafto is 100% accurate here.
Originally by: Sergeant Shafto
Originally by: dracice did sot fail cascade over IT? hurley? or both...
seems alot of people once they found out how the hurley incident went down didn't like it.
SOT fail cascaded because it had no leadership.
1. For first couple weeks of invasion 99% of SOT members were keen and excited about fighting, but no leadership, despite having some great FCs, meant barely any ops and eventually players and corps got fed up with lack of anything at all. 2. 99% of members didn't really give a sh*t about Hurley, I didn't because I never once saw him in any fleet, or ever see him talk in chat, ever.
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Mazerati
Minmatar Nitro Corp Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.03 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Varesk Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in.
I understand the frustration this kind of thing causes. And even somewhat sympathise with those it affects (been there, done that). But there simply isn't sufficient incentive to entice players to log into a test server. In ANY game. If they want people to log in to test, they should hire paid testers. Or at the very least, provide sufficient reason for paying subscribers to do it (paying subscribers simply don't want to bother with testing something they're paying a subscription for without some incentive to make it worth their trouble).
Perhaps one way would be to offer free live play in exchange for testing time. Like a 50/50 system. Test for a day, get a free day of live play. And in times of mass tester need, implement some sort of mechanically forced "cease fire" against space those testers hold on the live server, where nothing in their space can be attacked while they're logged into the test server. That way, theres no worry about anyone "unfairly taking advantage" because no one, or too few, are around to defend.
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prizum
Caldari Nex Exercitus IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 20:04:00 -
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sniping page 11 or 12.
Hate the lag, love the dead titans.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: prizum sniping page 11 or 12.
Hate the lag, love the dead titans.
No, this is how you snipe
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dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.03 20:08:00 -
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with the thread rolling this fast its hard to tell.
and since u gotta wait 5 minutes, while your waiting to post and not refreshing, alot can go by. so sniping a fast moving thread would take planning.
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prizum
Caldari Nex Exercitus IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 20:16:00 -
[315]
ok, spraying and praying at page 11 or 12, better?
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Tzujeih
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: SpongeSlog
There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them.
hahaha
oh please, spare us the crocodile tears about server performance
you guys have happily used lag and node crashes deliberately to gain advantage many times in the past - deal with it
(or carry on weeping and entertain us)
i herd u like pinatas so i made u dis: EXTREME PINATA DIRTBIKE BOWLING
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CAOD Ambition
Gallente Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.03 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tzujeih
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: SpongeSlog
There are many ways to create the number of simultaneous connections needed. CCP decided instead to not spend the money on testing and instead pursued a failed policy of relying on Volunteers to do their testing for them.
hahaha
oh please, spare us the crocodile tears about server performance
you guys have happily used lag and node crashes deliberately to gain advantage many times in the past - deal with it
(or carry on weeping and entertain us)
i herd u like pinatas so i made u dis: EXTREME PINATA DIRTBIKE BOWLING
I am going to now spend 5 hours reading all your posts so I can fap at your main,.. --
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Vengeance Raze
Minmatar Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: Vengeance Raze on 03/01/2010 20:41:41
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Itshouldbeanexploitto
Fresh batch of tear incoming guys!!!
Some of the content in this thread made me smile, however, out of all of the posts in this thread, this one won a real life lol.
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Kaiwhakawa Tumuaki
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Varesk
There "Crappy" QA testing is crappy because people like you cannot get your own e-peen out of your ass and log in to test new code. There were many Tests pre-dominion on the test server. Its sorta hard to do those tests when there are only a handful people log in.
None of the features released in dominion 1.00 were the same as they were in sisi. Because players knew that things tried in sisi were going to be changed in the dominion release, there was no reason to test things in sisi.
Oh wait some of the features from sisi were included in dominion; sbus, tcus and outposts that were vulnerable to attack when they were "invulnerable".
The problem wasnt the lack of people willing to test; It was the rubbish code we were being asked to test, and the lack of acknowledgement of feedback to those of us who did test sisi out.
Anyway back to OP topic;
hahahahahahah will x up again - just to be in a fleet where dbrb shuts the hell up.
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Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:10:00 -
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Edited by: Gwyneira Vulva''Mae on 03/01/2010 22:14:46
Originally by: Vengeance Raze Edited by: Vengeance Raze on 03/01/2010 20:41:41
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Itshouldbeanexploitto
Fresh batch of tear incoming guys!!!
Some of the content in this thread made me smile, however, out of all of the posts in this thread, this one won a real life lol.
if the tables were turned we would be crowing about your hilarious losses, and you would be accusing us of this and that and petitioning your losses. The schadenfreude is strong, as always, but I don't see how anyone can defend the status quo from a game design perspective. I wasn't accusing IT of exploiting; I was saying that with no hope on the horizon of dynamic node reinforcement that doesn't require downtime, I really don't see how else CCP could fix the problem. The only way a system like Y-2 could be defended would be if it was reinforced; the only way it could have been reinforced is if IT voluntarily petitioned it in advance. As important as the first day is under the new sovereignty mechanics it should be obvious that something needs another look here. As much as both sides here love to see the other get a broomstick snapped off in the ass, you have to be ******ed to look at the status quo and believe that this is how the game should play out. I'm sure you've got a few people in your alliance who'd have preferred a fight where the targets shot back, though they're probably not your designated forum warriors.
Alternatively CCP could just get rid of the daily downtime, and we could sov4 every vulnerable system with 600 docked afk trial accounts.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Originally by: Vengeance Raze Edited by: Vengeance Raze on 03/01/2010 20:41:41
Originally by: Marlona Sky
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Itshouldbeanexploitto
Fresh batch of tear incoming guys!!!
Some of the content in this thread made me smile, however, out of all of the posts in this thread, this one won a real life lol.
if the tables were turned we would be crowing about your hilarious losses, and you would be accusing us of this and that and petitioning your losses. The schadenfreude is strong, as always, but I don't see how anyone can defend the status quo from a game design perspective. I wasn't accusing IT of exploiting; I was saying that with no hope on the horizon of dynamic node reinforcement that doesn't require downtime, I really don't see how else CCP could fix the problem. The only way a system like Y-2 could be defended would be if it was reinforced; the only way it could have been reinforced is if IT voluntarily petitioned it in advance. As important as the first day is under the new sovereignty mechanics it should be obvious that something needs another look here. As much as both sides here love to see the other get a broomstick snapped off in the ass, you have to be ******ed to look at the status quo and believe that this is how the game should play out.
Alternatively CCP could just get rid of the daily downtime, and we could sov4 every vulnerable system with 600 docked afk trial accounts.
Oh well, you'll always have JV1V
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Thunder1971
Caldari Virtual Warriors IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:13:00 -
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This is what CCP calls their issue in the news.
"their fleet was disarrayed by a spatial distortion"...Nice workaround. Now perhaps a functioning code to fix that "Spatial distortion"?
Then we can all play the game again like it is advertised. At the end of the day everybody will end up on the sucky side of this fail one day. "comrades in arms know the meaning of true friendship". |
General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Thunder1971 This is what CCP calls their issue in the news.
"their fleet was disarrayed by a spatial distortion"...Nice workaround. Now perhaps a functioning code to fix that "Spatial distortion"?
Then we can all play the game again like it is advertised. At the end of the day everybody will end up on the sucky side of this fail one day.
You're right, it was CCP that forced the FC to decide that was the best time to jump in. It was CCP that decided the best course of action was to let IT build up steadily throughout the day rather than trying to make a beachhead. There's NO WAY that what happened to the NC twice in a row would EVER happen to them, right?
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Helen Highwater
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Sorry - I must have missed the part where there was a dark, invisible force, which prevented you entering the system during the day and building up your forces like IT did, so you wouldn't have to jump in en-masse at the last possible moment.
Poor you
How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another. --------------------------------------------------------------
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Shadow Warri0rs
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:26:00 -
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Bee's upset over loosing their hive? --
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Fenix Zealot
Caldari Aeon Of Strife
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Helen Highwater
Originally by: Butter Dog
Sorry - I must have missed the part where there was a dark, invisible force, which prevented you entering the system during the day and building up your forces like IT did, so you wouldn't have to jump in en-masse at the last possible moment.
Poor you
How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another.
Should have held the station better then =p
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron Bee's upset over loosing their hive?
I know, I thought there was only supposed to be one queen per swarm, but these guys seem to be full of them.
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Ziley
Amarr Altless Green Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:31:00 -
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What ever happened to adapt or die? Clearly IT adapted so they didn't lose their entire cap fleet. PL was not so smart here....
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Qeng Nuwen
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Kick BTLS
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Helen Highwater How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another.
I think it was Sun Tzu who said 'giveth awayeth the tactical advantage by ****ing upeth and failingz0r badly at pvp, and thou hast not the tactical advantage anymore - deal with it'. It was either Sun Tzu, Viper or Mr Miyagi, I can't remember which.
You screwed up on so many levels last night I'm amazed you have the balls to whine.
- Bragging wildly in advance of the fight about how hard you were going to own - The excruciating screw up in the handover of the system - Failing to retain numbers in system despite having hours to prepare - The genius FC who made the call to 'jump' despite huge amounts of evidence about what would happen
You got what you deserved, and Goons have had ludicrous amounts of luck with this kind of lag before. Now, however, you're just the recipients of the biggest pasting in the history of Eve. Sorry, daniel-san :(
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Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: Gwyneira Vulva''Mae on 03/01/2010 22:42:21
Originally by: General Windypops You're right, it was CCP that forced the FC to decide that was the best time to jump in. It was CCP that decided the best course of action was to let IT build up steadily throughout the day rather than trying to make a beachhead. There's NO WAY that what happened to the NC twice in a row would EVER happen to them, right?
There's nothing we can do about IT building up in euro prime when we're a US alliance, but the best time to jump into a non-reinforced system with 700 in local already is to wait until it's reinforced after downtime, which is too late under the new sov mechanics. It's just not possible to bring in the numbers to counter that if the node isn't reinforced which brings us back to my point, which is that the invaders' CEO is in complete control of whether or not the target system can be defended in the first place because of the way node reinforcement works. It's game breaking whether you're talking about SirMolle or karttoon, though it certainly favors whoever's timezone comes first after downtime.
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Finanche
Minmatar Dark Revival Synergy deadspace society
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Helen Highwater How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another.
I think it was Sun Tzu who said 'giveth awayeth the tactical advantage by ****ing upeth and failingz0r badly at pvp, and thou hast not the tactical advantage anymore - deal with it'. It was either Sun Tzu, Viper or Mr Miyagi, I can't remember which.
You screwed up on so many levels last night I'm amazed you have the balls to whine.
- Bragging wildly in advance of the fight about how hard you were going to own - The excruciating screw up in the handover of the system - Failing to retain numbers in system despite having hours to prepare - The genius FC who made the call to 'jump' despite huge amounts of evidence about what would happen
You got what you deserved, and Goons have had ludicrous amounts of luck with this kind of lag before. Now, however, you're just the recipients of the biggest pasting in the history of Eve. Sorry, daniel-san :(
200% agree with the post....failure on the FC part BIG time! --
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae There's nothing we can do about IT building up in euro prime when we're a US alliance
Not sure if you noticed, but the fight took place in US TZ. Sorry to burst your bubble (or, to put it another way, sorry to pop your egg)
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Pudgy McFudge
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:51:00 -
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If you build up in Euro prime you are built up before US prime.
So you see, there is nothing we can do if IT can build up in Euro Prime before we have the opportunity to build up is US time.
Because by time we start building up in US prime, Euro Prime has passed and any building up that happens in Euro time is finished befor any building up in Us time even begins.
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:54:00 -
[335]
It was Saturday. You had all day to build up your US TZ forces along with euro TZ forces, just like IT did. You failed.
The truth will set you free
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Finanche
Minmatar Dark Revival Synergy deadspace society
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:55:00 -
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If you can not man a system 24/7 with a good sized fleet, rethinking your sov issue might be at hand.
The days of having 2 people in a claimed system is over, the new sov system in my opinion was designed that way. So it is working to open up space for smaller alliances and corps. Now everone just needs to make sure they have a well rounded corp/alliance that can man a system 24/7. --
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 22:58:00 -
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Originally by: Pudgy McFudge If you build up in Euro prime you are built up before US prime.
So you see, there is nothing we can do if IT can build up in Euro Prime before we have the opportunity to build up is US time.
Because by time we start building up in US prime, Euro Prime has passed and any building up that happens in Euro time is finished befor any building up in Us time even begins.
In conclusion, buttes.
So who the hell issued the command to jump in then? No sane FC would EVER order you to jump and take those kind of losses when you clearly didn't stand a chance. But thanks for making Eve history for losing the largest number of ships EVERr. That's one record you'll be able to cling on to for a while.
And one I'll be mocking you about for years to come.
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w0rmy
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Pudgy McFudge If you build up in Euro prime you are built up before US prime.
So recruit moar EU players.
Your lack of ability to have TZ coverage is a failure that CCP cannot be blamed for.
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge
So you see, there is nothing we can do if IT can build up in Euro Prime before we have the opportunity to build up is US time.
Mighty defeatest attitude there, however, the solution is simple
Kick BTLS
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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Pudgy McFudge
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude It was Saturday. You had all day to build up your US TZ forces along with euro TZ forces, just like IT did. You failed.
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Gwyneira Vulva'Mae
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:02:00 -
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Keep your pants on Windypops, CCP reimbursements are already rolling out which is record-breaking turnaround in itself.
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Finanche
Minmatar Dark Revival Synergy deadspace society
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:03:00 -
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The title of this post needs to be changed...I am petitioning it!
It should read, FC FAIL BIG --
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Nicklaus Klaus'nik
Gallente Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:03:00 -
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Keep your pants on Windypops, CCP reimbursements are already rolling out which is record-breaking turnaround in itself.
A windypops with his pants on just wouldn't be a windypops, dude.
Show me a single screenshot of a reimbursement and I'll believe you.
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zythyl
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Keep your pants on Windypops, CCP reimbursements are already rolling out which is record-breaking turnaround in itself.
Hey I ganked a hauler last night but the lag made the gate guns fire on me. Can you let them know I'd like a new Mymidon please? Thanks!
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Pudgy McFudge
Originally by: Metal Dude It was Saturday. You had all day to build up your US TZ forces along with euro TZ forces, just like IT did. You failed.
It was Saturday and I didn't spend all day playing internet spaceships. I failed.
Don't you guys brag about how you camped in BoB in PR- 23/7 for a month? Now you can't be bothered to respond to one of your failures to keep your pets happy, so it's everyone elseÆs fault that your incompetence cost you titans, caps, fleet and the system? How inconvenient for you.
The truth will set you free
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Finanche
Minmatar Dark Revival Synergy deadspace society
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:10:00 -
[346]
Originally by: Gwyneira Vulva'Mae Keep your pants on Windypops, CCP reimbursements are already rolling out which is record-breaking turnaround in itself.
ROFLMAO
So not true and to post it, well nevermind...lol!
BTW...I lost a Domi, Mals, Drake, Thany, Moros and a few other ships in the same exact way you did! Mine are being replaced as we speak!!! HooRaah! --
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Doctor Ungabungas
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy
Mighty defeatest attitude there, however, the solution is simple
Kick BTLS
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Pudgy McFudge
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge
Originally by: Metal Dude It was Saturday. You had all day to build up your US TZ forces along with euro TZ forces, just like IT did. You failed.
It was Saturday and I didn't spend all day playing internet spaceships. I failed.
Don't you guys brag about how you camped in BoB in PR- 23/7 for a month? Now you can't be bothered to respond to one of your failures to keep your pets happy, so it's everyone elseÆs fault that your incompetence cost you titans, caps, fleet and the system? How inconvenient for you.
We never camped BoB into PR-, BoB was the best corp in goonsawrm at the time. We camped Kenzoku.
To be honest it was less bragging about what we did and more laughing about what Kenny didn't do.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Pudgy McFudge
Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge
Originally by: Metal Dude It was Saturday. You had all day to build up your US TZ forces along with euro TZ forces, just like IT did. You failed.
It was Saturday and I didn't spend all day playing internet spaceships. I failed.
Don't you guys brag about how you camped in BoB in PR- 23/7 for a month? Now you can't be bothered to respond to one of your failures to keep your pets happy, so it's everyone elseÆs fault that your incompetence cost you titans, caps, fleet and the system? How inconvenient for you.
We never camped BoB into PR-, BoB was the best corp in goonsawrm at the time. We camped Kenzoku.
To be honest it was less bragging about what we did and more laughing about what Kenny didn't do.
But now you guys are on the end of the biggest single battle defeat in the history of the game :(
At least you have your memories.
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Pudgy McFudge
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:28:00 -
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Well we just got a lot of our un-dead caps out.
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w0rmy
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: w0rmy on 03/01/2010 23:31:37
Originally by: General Windypops
At least you have your memories.
Memory All alone in the moongoo I can smile at the old days I was beautiful then I remember The time I knew what happiness was...
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Well we just got a lot of our un-dead caps out.
You're now bragging about getting your left overs out of system?
Grasping at straws for good PR these days?
Originally by: CCP Oveur I'm very sorry w0rmy, I beg your forgiveness.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 03/01/2010 23:32:42
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Well we just got a lot of our un-dead caps out.
Keep trying i guess.
*snickers*
Well that makes up for the largest defeat in the history of Eve. You guys must be TOTALLY STOKED
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Greg DaimYo
Caldari Biotronics Inc. Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:36:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops But now you guys are on the end of the biggest single battle defeat in the history of the game :(
At least you have your memories.
This is a Windypops-Post, so it is a troll in the first place.
Nevertheless I am going to respond:
I am not engaged in any way in the "eastern"-war that is fought at the moment, hell I just returned from christmas-holidays and won't play this game in the next two months (except for skilling) most likely.
The game is not playable when you have more than 100 people who want to slug it out at the moment. I am not talking about achieving strategic goals. This is possible but to get the job done you have to use your knowledge about server-behaviour in your favour. You had to do this in the past, no doubt.
But CCP managed to improve it vastly over the last year until Dominion hit. Then it all turned to shambles and what we got now is the worst incarnation I ever experienced in an MMORPG, period.
I am on a longterm-subscription so I'll keep skilling, but I won't do ape**** and play the game actually.
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Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:41:00 -
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Originally by: Pudgy McFudge Well we just got a lot of our un-dead caps out.
Keep trying i guess.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Greg DaimYo Edited by: Greg DaimYo on 03/01/2010 23:37:56
Originally by: General Windypops But now you guys are on the end of the biggest single battle defeat in the history of the game :(
At least you have your memories.
This is a Windypops-Post, so it is a troll in the first place.
Nevertheless I am going to respond:
I am not engaged in any way in the "western"-war that is fought at the moment, hell I just returned from christmas-holidays and won't play this game in the next two months (except for skilling) most likely.
The game is not playable when you have more than 100 people who want to slug it out at the moment. I am not talking about achieving strategic goals. This is possible but to get the job done you have to use your knowledge about server-behaviour in your favour. You had to do this in the past, no doubt.
But CCP managed to improve it vastly over the last year until Dominion hit. Then it all turned to shambles and what we got now is the worst incarnation I ever experienced in an MMORPG, period.
I am on a longterm-subscription so I'll keep skilling, but I won't do ape**** and play the game actually.
Edit: Because East ain't West.
Yet it was somehow playable when you allies decided to blob out BoB, LV and any number of other alliances?
Makes those defeats look pretty hollow, huh?
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Nicklaus Klaus'nik
Gallente Dark-Rising IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.03 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
But now you guys are on the end of the biggest single battle defeat in the history of the game :(
At least you have your memories.
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Pudgy McFudge
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: w0rmy You're now bragging about getting your left overs out of system?
Grasping at straws for good PR these days?
No, I'm saying we got our caps that were dead, declared undead, then out of the system. As in they were reimbursed. |
dracice
Gallente R.E.C.O.N. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.01.04 01:23:00 -
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god man anything to make you cry less then? glad you got em back.
did they also give you back all the tears?
bring them again. or just wait in delve.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Minmatar H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.04 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Pudgy McFudge
Originally by: w0rmy You're now bragging about getting your left overs out of system?
Grasping at straws for good PR these days?
No, I'm saying we got our caps that were dead, declared undead, then out of the system. As in they were reimbursed.
Sure.
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Sworn Absent
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 01:33:00 -
[360]
So this is basically like the time that CCP offline lotka volterra's towers in tenerifis, right?
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Twigand Berries
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 01:40:00 -
[361]
My favorite part was DBRB saying over and over that this will be the best fight ever. Heh.
No, actually, my favorite part was quitting after an hour of trying to load grid and playing torchlight. Man, that game's pretty fun.
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boliano
Caldari Archangels Assault Force Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2010.01.04 01:44:00 -
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Edited by: boliano on 04/01/2010 01:45:14
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge
Originally by: w0rmy You're now bragging about getting your left overs out of system?
Grasping at straws for good PR these days?
No, I'm saying we got our caps that were dead, declared undead, then out of the system. As in they were reimbursed.
Oh snap if you can prove it u just opened the biggest pain in the arse for ccp.... If its in fact true that ccp is reinburseing ur ships then they better be ready to reinburse all the ships lost in the same way from the last few weeks.Which means ccp better have alot of coffee handy. Since the ammt of reimbursement petitions will explode.
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Eskalin
Minmatar Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.04 02:23:00 -
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i became tumescent, then i arrived
If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
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Havoc GunStar
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 02:42:00 -
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Edited by: Havoc GunStar on 04/01/2010 02:42:36
Originally by: Metal Dude It was Saturday. You had all day to build up your US TZ forces along with euro TZ forces, just like IT did. You failed.
Of course, node reinforcement happens with prior notification at downtime, but you knew that.
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URDEAD2ME
Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.04 03:11:00 -
[365]
was really good fun taking 3 hours to load grid ...
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.04 03:18:00 -
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Edited by: Snot Shot on 04/01/2010 03:22:18
Originally by: URDEAD2ME was really good fun taking 3 hours to load grid ...
Welp......"What's fascinating is no one from Goons or PL is confessing to the dumb-arse tactic that was being pulled by Goons... They were trying to crash the node, and then hoping to 'ninja the TCU' when it came back up by pulling all sorts of ****, including rabid (even by goonie standards) amounts of spam in local (GM had banned several spammers from spamming inlocal)...
Tactic didn't work and instead the goons got 4 of their pet's Titan's blown up for their trouble... IT are justified in feasting on the goonies delicious tears IMHO...".....
Maybe next time you can leave the spammers behind and you might load faster.....
Edit: Look at local chat
. Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.04 03:30:00 -
[367]
Can we finally bury the titan corpses -- they are starting to stink up CAOD.
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Meno Theaetetus
Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.04 03:43:00 -
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Originally by: Trebor Notlimah Can we finally bury the titan corpses -- they are starting to stink up CAOD.
.notlimah 'semag gnikcod reirrac' trebor sti kool ho
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Havoc GunStar
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 06:47:00 -
[369]
Edited by: Havoc GunStar on 04/01/2010 06:47:45
Originally by: Snot Shot Edited by: Snot Shot on 04/01/2010 03:22:18
Originally by: URDEAD2ME was really good fun taking 3 hours to load grid ...
Welp......"What's fascinating is no one from Goons or PL is confessing to the dumb-arse tactic that was being pulled by Goons... They were trying to crash the node, and then hoping to 'ninja the TCU' when it came back up by pulling all sorts of ****, including rabid (even by goonie standards) amounts of spam in local (GM had banned several spammers from spamming inlocal)...
Tactic didn't work and instead the goons got 4 of their pet's Titan's blown up for their trouble... IT are justified in feasting on the goonies delicious tears IMHO...".....
Maybe next time you can leave the spammers behind and you might load faster.....
Edit: Look at local chat
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You've been around long enough to know full well, the IRC server that hosts game channels does not reside on the node, and no amount of text placed in any channel can possibly crash the node. In fact, in beta, it was possible to join the channels from standard IRC clients, without even being online in game.
But go ahead and keep on beating that dead horse.
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2010.01.04 06:52:00 -
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Edited by: Garia666 on 04/01/2010 06:53:32 hehehe all the goons complaining.. i love it.. this is a hell of a start this year..
They should make a new bug spray and call it IT: )
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Thunder1971
Caldari Virtual Warriors IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2010.01.04 06:58:00 -
[371]
Setting all the fun discussions about mine is bigger then yours and your tactics failed aside here.
It simply sucks that combat tactics mainly have to be built on game and server faillures/ restrictions. Would be a lot more fun if it didn't have to. And TBH that's how it should be.
I thought MMO stood for MASSIVE multi player.
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crice
Caldari CRICE Corporation The Purge Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.04 07:15:00 -
[372]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
ya? Really? Welcome to what LV dealt with JV1V....
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=1374&tid=7
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Freiherr vonRichthofen
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 10:16:00 -
[373]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Kick BTLS.
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The Government
Caldari Invasive Species Consortium.
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Posted - 2010.01.04 10:23:00 -
[374]
Originally by: Zatharyn This kinda reminds me of when Goons killed LV Baby titan in JV1V :P
Agreed, then chest beat about it. Live by the lag, die by the lag.
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OldPueblo
Gallente DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.04 10:29:00 -
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Only 13 pages? This is already 24 pages on goonfleet dot com, though to be honest it's mostly laughing and arghy posts.
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Spurty
Caldari Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.04 12:42:00 -
[376]
Everyone affected here please go read the following request for help from CCP Hunting the lag monstah
login and help CCP help you.
Some of you probably still own titans on sisi, just saying.
You can try out your epic 'node crush' tactics during these tests.
Not really sad it didn't work out for you (many thousands of people have been very entertained at this loss), but as CCP is dedicating some resources to solve the mystery, if you don't turn up to help em, expect history to be repeated.
Good luck and I'll try to be there too
Thanks CCP for looking into this issue.
Originally by: Hurley I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
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666Devious
Amarr Sinister Elite
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Posted - 2010.01.04 13:25:00 -
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CCP already claimed everything is working as intended.
EvE is a piece of trash.
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VonKaplanek III
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.04 13:54:00 -
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Originally by: Helen Highwater
Originally by: Butter Dog
Sorry - I must have missed the part where there was a dark, invisible force, which prevented you entering the system during the day and building up your forces like IT did, so you wouldn't have to jump in en-masse at the last possible moment.
Poor you
How do you 'slowly build your forces up' over the day in a system where you can't dock at the station and you have no friendly POSes to shelter in? You can do logoff stuff I guess but you still have to bring all those people in at the same time one way or another.
If you don't own the station and have no pos''s then please tell me oh wissened one, what was the urgency to jump in there knowing that the node was not reinforced and their was already some 600 pilots in system?
Funny how some people cannot accept responsiblity for their own stupidity. I feel bad now. BoB kicked Hurley for being ******ed when he lost his first titan. But in retorspect he isn't stupid at all, not compared to whoever that FC was and all the lemmings that followed him in.
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Velios
Minmatar M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.01.04 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Oh the irony! BUY 3 EVE TIMECODES VIA M.CORP AND GET FREE BATTLESHIP
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Snot Shot
Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.04 17:24:00 -
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Exclusive sneak peek at some of the PL/NC fleet chat just prior to their suicide jump into Y-2à..
Originally by: Y-2 Dream Team
[00:32] Viper ****zIe: are you ***gots ready to go yet? [00:33] Shamis Orzoz: viper stop being such a ****tard these *******s are here to help us!! [00:34] Imperian: are you two idiots aware that the node is not reinforced, you will never load grid, and we will all die? [00:35] Viper ****zIe: shut up imp you ***got we know that but we all have our petitions written already and will get out **** back anyways!! [00:36] Phreeze: viper you are such a tool, that does not work and ccp does not reimburse people for being idiots [00:37] Viper ****zIe: phreez if you donÆt want to jump then we donÆt need you ***gots anyways. We will probably all die but **** it, if you donÆt load just quit and hope you donÆt get a kill mail [00:38] Imperian: so the plan is to hope we donÆt get a kill mail so ccp will give us our ships back? [00:39] Shamis Orzoz: yes [00:40] Phreeze: wtf? [00:41] Imperian: why are goons not in this channel? [00:42] Viper ****zIe: because they are all a bunch of ***gots and we donÆt want them to get in their petitions before us [00:43] Shamis Orzoz: and if we get our ships back this will set precedence for every large fleet fight post dominion and ccp can clean up our mess each time. [00:44] Imperian: so the only risk here is if you donÆt get a kill mail or some how cry hard enough so ccp gives in and gives everyoneÆs ships back? Sounds like risk free pvp to me when does the cyno go up?
If anyone else has any info please feel free to dump them so we can see how these tacticians came to the conclusion that ccp will be responsible for their stupid decisionsà
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Just Sayin.... Dr. Shot
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Princess Jodi
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.04 17:31:00 -
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As stated so eloquently before, there are ways to avoid the jump/cyno gridlock. We figured out how to do it after much slaughter in geminate. Our very first battle after we figured it out broke Atlas' back and they no longer have any presence in geminate.
Too bad Goons/PL/SOT didn't listen to the advice. This could have been an epic battle. Instead its just another embarassment for the game.
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Meja
Gallente Morne Attitude
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Posted - 2010.01.04 17:45:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi Too bad Goons/PL/SOT didn't listen to the advice. This could have been an epic battle. Instead its just another embarassment for the game.
Too bad NC jumped in the bandwagon, generating more lags, with the result we know
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.04 18:07:00 -
[383]
Originally by: Meno Theaetetus
Originally by: Trebor Notlimah Can we finally bury the titan corpses -- they are starting to stink up CAOD.
.notlimah 'semag gnikcod reirrac' trebor sti kool ho
/me checks hanger for WI. ships who honorably ejected.....
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Presidio
Minmatar Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.04 19:29:00 -
[384]
Originally by: Snot Shot Exclusive sneak peek at some of the PL/NC fleet chat just prior to their suicide jump into Y-2à..
Originally by: Y-2 Dream Team
[00:32] Viper ****zIe: are you ***gots ready to go yet? [00:33] Shamis Orzoz: viper stop being such a ****tard these *******s are here to help us!! [00:34] Imperian: are you two idiots aware that the node is not reinforced, you will never load grid, and we will all die? [00:35] Viper ****zIe: shut up imp you ***got we know that but we all have our petitions written already and will get out **** back anyways!! [00:36] Phreeze: viper you are such a tool, that does not work and ccp does not reimburse people for being idiots [00:37] Viper ****zIe: phreez if you donÆt want to jump then we donÆt need you ***gots anyways. We will probably all die but **** it, if you donÆt load just quit and hope you donÆt get a kill mail [00:38] Imperian: so the plan is to hope we donÆt get a kill mail so ccp will give us our ships back? [00:39] Shamis Orzoz: yes [00:40] Phreeze: wtf? [00:41] Imperian: why are goons not in this channel? [00:42] Viper ****zIe: because they are all a bunch of ***gots and we donÆt want them to get in their petitions before us [00:43] Shamis Orzoz: and if we get our ships back this will set precedence for every large fleet fight post dominion and ccp can clean up our mess each time. [00:44] Imperian: so the only risk here is if you donÆt get a kill mail or some how cry hard enough so ccp gives in and gives everyoneÆs ships back? Sounds like risk free pvp to me when does the cyno go up?
If anyone else has any info please feel free to dump them so we can see how these tacticians came to the conclusion that ccp will be responsible for their stupid decisionsà
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I like how those timestamps are in a sequential order. Totally not fake -
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.04 21:48:00 -
[385]
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Snot Shot Exclusive sneak peek at some of the PL/NC fleet chat just prior to their suicide jump into Y-2à..
Originally by: Y-2 Dream Team
[00:32] Viper ****zIe: are you ***gots ready to go yet? [00:33] Shamis Orzoz: viper stop being such a ****tard these *******s are here to help us!! [00:34] Imperian: are you two idiots aware that the node is not reinforced, you will never load grid, and we will all die? [00:35] Viper ****zIe: shut up imp you ***got we know that but we all have our petitions written already and will get out **** back anyways!! [00:36] Phreeze: viper you are such a tool, that does not work and ccp does not reimburse people for being idiots [00:37] Viper ****zIe: phreez if you donÆt want to jump then we donÆt need you ***gots anyways. We will probably all die but **** it, if you donÆt load just quit and hope you donÆt get a kill mail [00:38] Imperian: so the plan is to hope we donÆt get a kill mail so ccp will give us our ships back? [00:39] Shamis Orzoz: yes [00:40] Phreeze: wtf? [00:41] Imperian: why are goons not in this channel? [00:42] Viper ****zIe: because they are all a bunch of ***gots and we donÆt want them to get in their petitions before us [00:43] Shamis Orzoz: and if we get our ships back this will set precedence for every large fleet fight post dominion and ccp can clean up our mess each time. [00:44] Imperian: so the only risk here is if you donÆt get a kill mail or some how cry hard enough so ccp gives in and gives everyoneÆs ships back? Sounds like risk free pvp to me when does the cyno go up?
If anyone else has any info please feel free to dump them so we can see how these tacticians came to the conclusion that ccp will be responsible for their stupid decisionsà
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I like how those timestamps are in a sequential order. Totally not fake
Plus viper doesn't say ***got enough.
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IronGoldenEagle
Caldari The New Era RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.04 22:00:00 -
[386]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Traderjohn
Originally by: Butter Dog
hahaha
It doesn't take CCP to move people into the system during the day, slowly building up your forces like IT did, so you don't have to jump 700 into 650 who are already loaded and in position.
You guys chose the last, and worst, possible moment to leeroy in. And you paid the inevitable price.
Now, kindly take your e-spaceship whines and tell someone who cares, like your internal forums. You were lazy, inept, and you did something you knew would end badly.
Bravo
Mate your a pet, Just dont talk.
SOT lost sov because they failed and we were forced to jump in or lose system without trying. However the game has become a case of who is in system first and not about who has the most ships or what ships they are in. Numbers and FCs now are totally irrelivant. Shooting people at a E warp point isnt skill.
Sorry - I must have missed the part where there was a dark, invisible force, which prevented you entering the system during the day and building up your forces like IT did, so you wouldn't have to jump in en-masse at the last possible moment.
Poor you
It's called a real life. Don't you have one?
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Fat Ducker
Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.04 22:13:00 -
[387]
Originally by: IronGoldenEagle
It's called a real life. Don't you have one?
So none of you could find half an hour earlier in the day to get in system, and log in a safe? Logging back in, at a safe with nothing on grid isn't problematic even in very heavily loaded systems. Even if you didn't know that plenty of guys in your alliance do, you could have asked them.
You're making excuses, for what is transparently a lack of commitment (in qualitative terms, compared to IT) because you lack their motivation.
Suggestion: get your alliance disbanded, the name stolen, spend 5 months being humiliated, another 6 in the wilderness and then see how much effort you're willing to put in! |
DeadDuck
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.04 22:47:00 -
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On a side note today in O4 system, Geminate region,in a fleet fight between NC and Atlas+Allies and already with 600 pilots in system fighting, we jumped 35 peeps in there as reinforcements and the dam grid loaded so fast everybody was surprised. The grid we jumped in was completly empty with only 1 pos there.
After the Y-2 f*** up everybody thought that this would be another lag fest but, it didn't. Which seems to confirm that if the grid is empty the lag while jumping to system will be much smoother, like we already experienced in various fights in Geminate.
In the rest of the fight lag was almost inexistent.
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Ur235
Gallente Feudum Chalybis Primary.
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Posted - 2010.01.05 10:30:00 -
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Edited by: Ur235 on 05/01/2010 10:35:09
I just wanna know if IT are going to try and retake Delve again or are they going to secure Fountain first.
Goons are in a procarious position now, they've got IT on there door step and the Stain Wagon not far away aswell and now that IT have established a foothold into Delve I wouldnt be suprised if Stainwagon stepped up there incursions into Goon space
Plus now most of Goons allies like the NC etc are already involved in wars in there home regions against Tri and Atlas etc. They are really going to struggle to defend there regions if IT do decide to invade Delve
Should be an interesting year for eve
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Billy Wild
Minmatar ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.05 10:38:00 -
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Our invasion on Delve has been halted till goons give us the OK to invade.
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Sworn Absent
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.05 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ur235 Edited by: Ur235 on 05/01/2010 10:35:09
I just wanna know if IT are going to try and retake Delve again or are they going to secure Fountain first.
Goons are in a procarious position now, they've got IT on there door step and the Stain Wagon not far away aswell and now that IT have established a foothold into Delve I wouldnt be suprised if Stainwagon stepped up there incursions into Goon space
Plus now most of Goons allies like the NC etc are already involved in wars in there home regions against Tri and Atlas etc. They are really going to struggle to defend there regions if IT do decide to invade Delve
Should be an interesting year for eve
yeah most goons have been anticipating a big coalition evicting us for years but so far the only thing close to an invasion on our space made extreeeeemely slow gains (esoteria a while ago) or just fell apart before it got started (anything since we took delve)
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.05 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ur235
I just wanna know if IT are going to try and retake Delve again or are they going to secure Fountain first.
Under current ****ed up sov mechanics its basically impossible to capture a defended station, where there is a significant timezone difference... maybe when the sov system gets tweaked, but right now its just pointless even trying
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Sworn Absent
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.05 11:02:00 -
[393]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Ur235
I just wanna know if IT are going to try and retake Delve again or are they going to secure Fountain first.
Under current ****ed up sov mechanics its basically impossible to capture a defended station, where there is a significant timezone difference... maybe when the sov system gets tweaked, but right now its just pointless even trying
Unless that system is held by Sons of Tangra, elite PvP alliance.
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Sator deHarak
Caldari Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.01.05 11:18:00 -
[394]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Presidio
Originally by: Snot Shot Exclusive sneak peek at some of the PL/NC fleet chat just prior to their suicide jump into Y-2à..
Originally by: Y-2 Dream Team
[00:32] Viper ****zIe: are you ***gots ready to go yet? [00:33] Shamis Orzoz: viper stop being such a ****tard these *******s are here to help us!! [00:34] Imperian: are you two idiots aware that the node is not reinforced, you will never load grid, and we will all die? [00:35] Viper ****zIe: shut up imp you ***got we know that but we all have our petitions written already and will get out **** back anyways!! [00:36] Phreeze: viper you are such a tool, that does not work and ccp does not reimburse people for being idiots [00:37] Viper ****zIe: phreez if you donÆt want to jump then we donÆt need you ***gots anyways. We will probably all die but **** it, if you donÆt load just quit and hope you donÆt get a kill mail [00:38] Imperian: so the plan is to hope we donÆt get a kill mail so ccp will give us our ships back? [00:39] Shamis Orzoz: yes [00:40] Phreeze: wtf? [00:41] Imperian: why are goons not in this channel? [00:42] Viper ****zIe: because they are all a bunch of ***gots and we donÆt want them to get in their petitions before us [00:43] Shamis Orzoz: and if we get our ships back this will set precedence for every large fleet fight post dominion and ccp can clean up our mess each time. [00:44] Imperian: so the only risk here is if you donÆt get a kill mail or some how cry hard enough so ccp gives in and gives everyoneÆs ships back? Sounds like risk free pvp to me when does the cyno go up?
If anyone else has any info please feel free to dump them so we can see how these tacticians came to the conclusion that ccp will be responsible for their stupid decisionsà
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I like how those timestamps are in a sequential order. Totally not fake
Plus viper doesn't say ***got enough.
THINGS WRONG WITH THIS LOG:
TheAdj isn't present imperian is phreeze isn;t called heath people respond to phreeze/heath Shamis is logged in.
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JT Black
Amarr Black Wings Of Kartak
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Posted - 2010.01.05 11:46:00 -
[395]
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Post of the year !!!!
LMAO!! hahaha
Before u leave contract your stuff to me plz location currently in Aridia but can do with 319. Do u do delivery ?
Back to the Batmobile P:
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MrClock
Gallente Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.05 15:48:00 -
[396]
Originally by: Freiherr vonRichthofen
Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
Kick BTLS.
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TheDarkestDestroyer
Minmatar Intergalactic Hunters of ManBearPig
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Posted - 2010.01.05 17:19:00 -
[397]
The sad part is that I actually agree with a goon for the first time in history....it is pretty *** stupid that CCP released the most fail patch in eve history
little tip CCP if you want to make this game a complete blob fest...make sure your bloody servers can handle it first....
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BondGamer
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.05 18:03:00 -
[398]
If it is true that SOT lost only one ship then it is clear that there was a massive technical problem. This isn't a case where one side had some advantage due to lag or the node crashing. One whole fleet couldn't load the enemies to shoot them and got obliterated. It was like a station just exploded and everyone lost the stuff inside. CCP should replace the lost ships.
As for the whole plan to spread out fleet fights, it was always doomed for failure. It only takes a couple seconds to warp your megafleet from one TCU to another. The only way to spread out fleets is to actually spread them out, as in over multiple systems. Then your 1,500 person battle is split between 2 or 3 systems. One idea would be to require TCU to be placed on the adjoining system gates to disrupt sovereignty. If a system has 3 gates, that would spread out a fight over 4 systems potentially.
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LifeLines
Caldari Capital Construction Research
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Posted - 2010.01.05 20:13:00 -
[399]
Originally by: BondGamer If it is true that SOT lost only one ship then it is clear that there was a massive technical problem. This isn't a case where one side had some advantage due to lag or the node crashing. One whole fleet couldn't load the enemies to shoot them and got obliterated. It was like a station just exploded and everyone lost the stuff inside. CCP should replace the lost ships.
As for the whole plan to spread out fleet fights, it was always doomed for failure. It only takes a couple seconds to warp your megafleet from one TCU to another. The only way to spread out fleets is to actually spread them out, as in over multiple systems. Then your 1,500 person battle is split between 2 or 3 systems. One idea would be to require TCU to be placed on the adjoining system gates to disrupt sovereignty. If a system has 3 gates, that would spread out a fight over 4 systems potentially.
and then people will start organizing 800 man blobs for each of the 4 systems.
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Hanabi Kazan
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.05 20:53:00 -
[400]
Originally by: LifeLines
Originally by: BondGamer If it is true that SOT lost only one ship then it is clear that there was a massive technical problem. This isn't a case where one side had some advantage due to lag or the node crashing. One whole fleet couldn't load the enemies to shoot them and got obliterated. It was like a station just exploded and everyone lost the stuff inside. CCP should replace the lost ships.
As for the whole plan to spread out fleet fights, it was always doomed for failure. It only takes a couple seconds to warp your megafleet from one TCU to another. The only way to spread out fleets is to actually spread them out, as in over multiple systems. Then your 1,500 person battle is split between 2 or 3 systems. One idea would be to require TCU to be placed on the adjoining system gates to disrupt sovereignty. If a system has 3 gates, that would spread out a fight over 4 systems potentially.
and then people will start organizing 800 man blobs for each of the 4 systems.
are you saying that 2400 in 1 system would be better or that changing sov mechanics somehow creates new people?
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BondGamer
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: LifeLines and then people will start organizing 800 man blobs for each of the 4 systems.
That is extremely unlikely in the short term. The limit on fleet battles seems to cap out around 1,800 ships at the moment. If a battle is 1,000 or under, the server can manage it. So splitting a huge battle between at least 2 systems will make fights with up to 2,000 ships possible.
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padshiiangel
Caldari ZER0. IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:23:00 -
[402]
Originally by: LifeLines
Originally by: BondGamer If it is true that SOT lost only one ship then it is clear that there was a massive technical problem. This isn't a case where one side had some advantage due to lag or the node crashing. One whole fleet couldn't load the enemies to shoot them and got obliterated. It was like a station just exploded and everyone lost the stuff inside. CCP should replace the lost ships.
As for the whole plan to spread out fleet fights, it was always doomed for failure. It only takes a couple seconds to warp your megafleet from one TCU to another. The only way to spread out fleets is to actually spread them out, as in over multiple systems. Then your 1,500 person battle is split between 2 or 3 systems. One idea would be to require TCU to be placed on the adjoining system gates to disrupt sovereignty. If a system has 3 gates, that would spread out a fight over 4 systems potentially.
and then people will start organizing 800 man blobs for each of the 4 systems.
exactly
Originally by: BondGamer
Originally by: LifeLines and then people will start organizing 800 man blobs for each of the 4 systems.
That is extremely unlikely in the short term. The limit on fleet battles seems to cap out around 1,800 ships at the moment. If a battle is 1,000 or under, the server can manage it. So splitting a huge battle between at least 2 systems will make fights with up to 2,000 ships possible.
soon it's will be possible coz now ccp have 300K subscriberes.
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Dianabolic
Gallente Reikoku IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.05 21:27:00 -
[403]
Watching goons run round and try to circumvent CCP in all of the internet surely is amazing, I half hope you DO get stuff back so you will continue to do it.
srsbidness, amirite?
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Ath'daru
Minmatar Jazz Associates Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.01.05 22:41:00 -
[404]
derka derka muhammed jihad
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boliano
Caldari Archangels Assault Force Legion of Honor
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Posted - 2010.01.05 23:23:00 -
[405]
Just a quick question... I know bout the 5 titans but how many total caps were lost?
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Frito11
Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.06 03:51:00 -
[406]
Edited by: Frito11 on 06/01/2010 03:55:17 Edited by: Frito11 on 06/01/2010 03:52:41
Originally by: boliano Just a quick question... I know bout the 5 titans but how many total caps were lost?
only 4 titans died, only 2 generated killmails, the other 2 have killmails on IT's board because if you look at them they clearly copied the km from the other 2 titans and changed player names and very poorly might i add added a few players to the bottom of one of the mails and made no other changes to the other KM, according to our KB which is API ran we got 2 titan km's 9 dreads and 8 carriers, many more did die most likely after their timers expired and some have already been replaced by CCP because of this
perhaps the server did not generate KM's for ships that were destroyed after their 15min logoff timer expired because they should have disappeared and the case with at least 2 of the titans and should be all 4 + most of the caps was that they players were logged off and never disappeared, i was one of the fortunate caps that made it out in my carrier and it was only because i actually loaded system after 20 min from jump in sat there did nothing and when the call was made to log off if you cannot see the jump beacon broadcast and jump out, otherwise jump out. i jumped sat cloaked and invuln. to the attackers for nearly an hour before i made it to mn5, we also mind you had over a dozen cap pilots that had jumped as i did and did not wait the hour! to get into mn5 and logged off, these players as the bug was in y-2 were permanently stuck in space as well as ones that asked GM to move them to MN5 because they were stuck and needed to log, i know for a fact first hand that these ships stayed in space in mn5 for at least up untill DT and word is from ally m8's that they were also still in space after DT but no longer at the station but at random emergency warpoff safe spots!
tell me that is not complete and utter proof of the failure of game mechanics
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Jesabell Junes
Amarr Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2010.01.06 03:54:00 -
[407]
Edited by: Jesabell Junes on 06/01/2010 03:55:40 Goons talking about not loading grid, black sceens, lag.....when their whole foothold in EVE was based around diliberately crashing nodes, using exploits....
LV suffered to all these tactics - CCP did nothing. So why should teh Goonies whinge now? Why should they get anything?
This what you call a cruel irony, and I cant stop laughing.
I like this IT Alliance.
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.06 03:58:00 -
[408]
Originally by: Jesabell Junes Edited by: Jesabell Junes on 06/01/2010 03:55:40 Goons talking about not loading grid, black sceens, lag.....when their whole foothold in EVE was based around diliberately crashing nodes, using exploits....
LV suffered to all these tactics - CCP did nothing. So why should teh Goonies whinge now? Why should they get anything?
This what you call a cruel irony, and I cant stop laughing.
I like this IT Alliance.
It is all fun and games until someone uses your own tactic against you.
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Frito11
Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.06 03:59:00 -
[409]
Originally by: Jesabell Junes Edited by: Jesabell Junes on 06/01/2010 03:55:40 Goons talking about not loading grid, black sceens, lag.....when their whole foothold in EVE was based around diliberately crashing nodes, using exploits....
LV suffered to all these tactics - CCP did nothing. So why should teh Goonies whinge now? Why should they get anything?
This what you call a cruel irony, and I cant stop laughing.
I like this IT Alliance.
you mean you like dominion, IT just took advantage of their TZ advantage and the currently known server issues in eve post dominion by having 600+ in a non-reinforced system long before we could get enough together to respond to their sudden taking of a station system because someone failed.
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies
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Posted - 2010.01.06 04:13:00 -
[410]
Originally by: Frito11
you mean you like dominion, IT just took advantage of their TZ advantage and the currently known server issues in eve post dominion by having 600+ in a non-reinforced system long before we could get enough together to respond to their sudden taking of a station system because someone failed.
I can see your point. Having made the decision to jump into hostile fleet while there were 600+ pilots in a non-reinforced newly captured system while knowing about the TZ advantage and the currently known server issues, IT should have... WHAT THE HELL DID YOU EXPECT TO HAVE HAPPEN???
Honestly, petition the losses, best of luck to you... but don't whine about your own mistakes. It's pathetic at best. Or did I misunderstand your post?
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Frito11
Gallente The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.01.06 04:41:00 -
[411]
Edited by: Frito11 on 06/01/2010 04:43:05 Edited by: Frito11 on 06/01/2010 04:42:17
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Frito11
you mean you like dominion, IT just took advantage of their TZ advantage and the currently known server issues in eve post dominion by having 600+ in a non-reinforced system long before we could get enough together to respond to their sudden taking of a station system because someone failed.
I can see your point. Having made the decision to jump into hostile fleet while there were 600+ pilots in a non-reinforced newly captured system while knowing about the TZ advantage and the currently known server issues, IT should have... WHAT THE HELL DID YOU EXPECT TO HAVE HAPPEN???
Honestly, petition the losses, best of luck to you... but don't whine about your own mistakes. It's pathetic at best. Or did I misunderstand your post?
I personally did not loose my ship nor would have cared had i lost my carrier, it was and still is fully insured because its not the first time recently that i jumped in fully expecting i may loose it.
being that i'm just an average member in PL and not a FC or anything before hand i did not expect that it would have been that bad for a few reasons, we only had 200~ or so in our fleet and that was both PL and Goons in the same fleet and IT has never shown a force of 600 at one time before that i've personally seen, usaly 300-400 at most, yes we heard the NC was bringing some guys down but to my knowledge i had no idea how many and if they were even there yet or not etc.
yes had i had heard about what has happened in the north after the patch but frankly it seemed to me that i was going to be epic, but 1300 local epic no way, the server btw started to die at 900 in local and it slowly reached about 1340 in local at the peak
what really failed here though was core game mechanics on a scale i've never seen before or even heard of
ships not disappearing after their timers and at least one instance where a carrier was killed when logged as evidenced by both a killmail generated and the guy logged back in the next day in y-2, still in his carrier with 1% hull 100% shields and half the modules blown up on his carrier!!
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Anile8er
Minmatar Solstice Systems Development Concourse Distant Drums
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Posted - 2010.01.06 04:55:00 -
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Edited by: Anile8er on 06/01/2010 04:58:50 "Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!"
TL;DR
Really i think the general thought here is most people in EVE don't care about your crying.... and they are rather happy to see the irony of GoonSPlot crying about a node being lagged out...
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.06 07:58:00 -
[413]
Originally by: Frito11 clearly copied the km from the other 2 titans and changed player names and very poorly might i add]
This really sucks for IT. I imagine they were pretty stoked about causing PL/Goons to suffer by far the largest defeat in the history of the game. But it must take a lot of the sheen off the victory to have their KMs criticized :(
Ah well, you'll always have JV1V. And marginally better killmail faking skill.
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TheDarkestDestroyer
Minmatar Intergalactic Hunters of ManBearPig
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Posted - 2010.01.06 08:21:00 -
[414]
Again I think the issue is being completely ignored because you guys hate the people it happened to so much. Your points about not jumping into a 600 man fleet (738 when last I checked) is completely irrelevant to this topic as well.
CCP made clear changes in recent patches to cause larger fleet fights but have clearly displayed that they have no intention of making their game playable under their new mechanics. Half the patches have caused the game to cease to function for multiple days...We pay MONEY to play this game and I think if CCP wishes to create even the illusion that they are concerned about costumer satisfaction they should fix these obvious problems.
For example if my ISP goes down for more then 1 day they give me the month for free. Yet when you have any kind of lag etc causing the game to function in a buggy low quality fashion they tend to make excuses such as that the problem is on your end etc etc trus tme I've heard them. If my modem dies my ISP doesn't say "hope you can replace it and recover soon" they say "sorry about that we'll send you out a new one immediately"
To sum it all up. If it's the servers you should probably upgrade fix or change the mechanics. If it's the clients same deal.
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Sworn Absent
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.06 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Frito11 clearly copied the km from the other 2 titans and changed player names and very poorly might i add]
This really sucks for IT. I imagine they were pretty stoked about causing PL/Goons to suffer by far the largest defeat in the history of the game. But it must take a lot of the sheen off the victory to have their KMs criticized :(
Ah well, you'll always have JV1V. And marginally better killmail faking skill.
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Le Cardinal
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.06 09:00:00 -
[416]
Originally by: Frito11
Originally by: Jesabell Junes Edited by: Jesabell Junes on 06/01/2010 03:55:40 Goons talking about not loading grid, black sceens, lag.....when their whole foothold in EVE was based around diliberately crashing nodes, using exploits....
LV suffered to all these tactics - CCP did nothing. So why should teh Goonies whinge now? Why should they get anything?
This what you call a cruel irony, and I cant stop laughing.
I like this IT Alliance.
you mean you like dominion, IT just took advantage of their TZ advantage and the currently known server issues in eve post dominion by having 600+ in a non-reinforced system long before we could get enough together to respond to their sudden taking of a station system because someone failed.
"Whaa whaa whaa, we couldnt muster more than 10 ppl in our timezone and werent able to clog the system"
You had plenty of time to move ppl inside system and log off there. But you cant, cause your members dont log on or prefer to camp lowsec systems instead. Face it. WHen the aoe doomsday was removed your alliance is just average. Pretty hard to accept that even goons are better than you. Its funny to see self proclaimed elite players whine on the forum when things gets tough. When the going gets tough, the tough blaims it on lag and blobs.
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Sworn Absent
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.06 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Le Cardinal WHen the aoe doomsday was removed your alliance is just average. Pretty hard to accept that even goons are better than you. Its funny to see self proclaimed elite players whine on the forum when things gets tough. When the going gets tough, the tough blaims it on lag and blobs.
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Sworn Absent
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.06 09:10:00 -
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hh hah ah rahrhaehae hA haeha HAeh a HAe hAh ha haA
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.06 09:14:00 -
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Originally by: Frito11
you mean you like dominion, IT just took advantage of their TZ advantage and the currently known server issues in eve post dominion by having 600+ in non-reinforced system long before we could get enough together to respond to their sudden taking of a station system because someone failed.
how dare IT log in and play eve during their timezone... filthy sploiters
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.06 10:01:00 -
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Originally by: TheDarkestDestroyer CCP... have clearly displayed that they have no intention of making their game playable under their new mechanics.
I assume you'll be first in the queue for the test server, and that you're not just whining because your side died horribly.
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.06 10:19:00 -
[421]
Since no one's said it on this page yet:
Get out BTLS.
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Leeluvv
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.06 10:55:00 -
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Edited by: Leeluvv on 06/01/2010 10:56:32 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1245862&page=1#16
Nice to see some players can think and don't class trying to crash a node as the only option.
Originally by: Doctor Mabuse A wife is just a T2 GF. They're more expensive and their resists are higher
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Jarnis McPieksu
Gallente Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.06 11:01:00 -
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Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu on 06/01/2010 11:01:16
Originally by: Leeluvv Edited by: Leeluvv on 06/01/2010 10:56:32 http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1245862&page=1#16
Nice to see some players can think and don't class trying to crash a node as the only option.
Of course it was all spelled out already in this very thread ten pages ago...
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1243986&page=6#153
...but I guess it got buried under a ton of Goonposts.
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Aveng3X
Caldari Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.06 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Manterror IT, you seem to miss the bigger picture.
These guys played a lot of eve to skill up to capital ships, and buy capital ships. They lose their capital ships without a fight...without even seeing a fight.
Not being able to play the "end game" of Eve is a major failing by CCP. Its a failure of services that we all pay for, and soon all alliances on both sides of the war will be up in arms.
So stop pretending that you like this **** and strut around smug as if it was a major strategic victory, it will be you crying tears of pain at some point when your grid doesnt load.
This. CCP is pretty much epic fail right now, I wouldn't be surprised to see a fair few subscribers not renewing after the way CCP and GMs have dealt with such matters. __________________________
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Spathi
Gallente Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.06 17:05:00 -
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The irony meter has exploded a few times during this thread.
BTW, You guys did read that wall of text called the EULA when you first started the client, right? Check out Section 12. It is totally relevant to all this.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.06 17:07:00 -
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Originally by: Aveng3X
This. CCP is pretty much epic fail right now, I wouldn't be surprised to see a fair few subscribers not renewing after the way CCP and GMs have dealt with such matters.
Well, who cares? Most people agree they dislike uberblobs anyway. EVE would be a better game with a quarter of the playerbase it has now. ----------
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Lucias Trask
Gallente Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Edited by: Lucias Trask on 06/01/2010 17:11:13 Edited by: Lucias Trask on 06/01/2010 17:09:36
Originally by: Frito11
you mean you like dominion, IT just took advantage of their TZ advantage and the currently known server issues in eve post dominion by having 600+ in a non-reinforced system long before we could get enough together to respond to their sudden taking of a station system because someone failed.
You mean because the system didnt drop sov until after DT and they jumped into it? So thats an exploit?
edit: ****, beaten.
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davet517
Caldari Raata Invicti Undivided
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Posted - 2010.01.06 17:22:00 -
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This is a CCP failure, but it's not a failure to address lag, it's a failure of game design.
They need to design the "end game" so that beyond a certain size, more isn't better. Fleets beyond a certain size should start being too risky and unwise to assemble because they're vulnerable to various kinds of asymetrical warfare.
They have the right idea with bombers. They are pretty useless solo. They're a waste and too expensive to use and ineffective against a small, fast moving gang, but they shine when they're used with skill and effecive coordination against a blob.
We need more of that in the "end game". We'll know we've hit the right balance when major powers no longer send out 500 man zergs to assult one system at one time, but favor sending out 10 50 man fleets to assault 10 systems at a time. The 500 man zerg should simply be too risky to assemble.
They tried to do this with Titans. The problem was that, unlike bombers, they were overpowered in just about all situations. If the doomsday had required a charge that cost a billion, launched with a 10 second "fuse" and was so large that only two could be carried, they would have been onto something.
The problem isn't with CCPs servers. The technologies in use do have and always will have limits and as they push those limits the players will always find them. The problem is that in Eve right now, and for a long time now, Moar is just about always better. It shouldn't be.
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Vitae
Amarr Legion of Lost Souls
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Posted - 2010.01.06 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: davet517 This is a CCP failure, but it's not a failure to address lag, it's a failure of game design.
They need to design the "end game" so that beyond a certain size, more isn't better. Fleets beyond a certain size should start being too risky and unwise to assemble because they're vulnerable to various kinds of asymetrical warfare.
They have the right idea with bombers. They are pretty useless solo. They're a waste and too expensive to use and ineffective against a small, fast moving gang, but they shine when they're used with skill and effecive coordination against a blob.
We need more of that in the "end game". We'll know we've hit the right balance when major powers no longer send out 500 man zergs to assult one system at one time, but favor sending out 10 50 man fleets to assault 10 systems at a time. The 500 man zerg should simply be too risky to assemble.
They tried to do this with Titans. The problem was that, unlike bombers, they were overpowered in just about all situations. If the doomsday had required a charge that cost a billion, launched with a 10 second "fuse" and was so large that only two could be carried, they would have been onto something.
The problem isn't with CCPs servers. The technologies in use do have and always will have limits and as they push those limits the players will always find them. The problem is that in Eve right now, and for a long time now, Moar is just about always better. It shouldn't be.
You could not be more wrong if your name was Wrong Wrongenstein. Titans with weapons that have 10 second fuses and cost a billion to fire..you're bloody mental mate. Stupid idea, needs to never be thought of again! The problem IS the technology...thats the bottleneck. Anyone with a bit of insight will tell you so. That doesn't mean that the game was poorly designed..it just means it needs a bit of work. |
davet517
Caldari Raata Invicti Undivided
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Posted - 2010.01.06 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Vitae
You could not be more wrong if your name was Wrong Wrongenstein. Titans with weapons that have 10 second fuses and cost a billion to fire..you're bloody mental mate. Stupid idea, needs to never be thought of again! The problem IS the technology...thats the bottleneck. Anyone with a bit of insight will tell you so. That doesn't mean that the game was poorly designed..it just means it needs a bit of work.
I have to assume that you're an alt trying to troll me, or you haven't been playing long. The servers have needed "just a bit of work" for years now.
Technology has limits. If they make it so that 500v500 runs smoothly this year, you'll be right back here complaining that the servers are broken because 1000v1000 doesn't work next year. This game is written in Python (not the most performant language in existance, to say the least). There is only so much that technology can do.
Players can't be expected to restrain their "rules of engagement" in a sandbox. What CCP can do, though, is provide strong enough drawbacks and risks to assembling huge zergs that it's no longer the most effective tactic. ---------------- We're recruiting quality players. Check us out. |
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Vitae
Amarr Legion of Lost Souls
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Posted - 2010.01.06 17:56:00 -
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Edited by: Vitae on 06/01/2010 17:56:54
Originally by: davet517
Originally by: Vitae
You could not be more wrong if your name was Wrong Wrongenstein. Titans with weapons that have 10 second fuses and cost a billion to fire..you're bloody mental mate. Stupid idea, needs to never be thought of again! The problem IS the technology...thats the bottleneck. Anyone with a bit of insight will tell you so. That doesn't mean that the game was poorly designed..it just means it needs a bit of work.
I have to assume that you're an alt trying to troll me, or you haven't been playing long. The servers have needed "just a bit of work" for years now.
Technology has limits. If they make it so that 500v500 runs smoothly this year, you'll be right back here complaining that the servers are broken because 1000v1000 doesn't work next year. This game is written in Python (not the most performant language in existance, to say the least). There is only so much that technology can do.
Players can't be expected to restrain their "rules of engagement" in a sandbox. What CCP can do, though, is provide strong enough drawbacks and risks to assembling huge zergs that it's no longer the most effective tactic.
Assume all you want..but that doesn't make your understanding of game design any better, much less your problem solving skills. The work is ongoing and it probably will be for a long time..if not till the end of the game itself.
CCP can do many things, but what they shouldn't do..which they wont, so I'm not worried..is listen to you.
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davet517
Caldari Raata Invicti Undivided
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Posted - 2010.01.06 18:01:00 -
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Edited by: davet517 on 06/01/2010 18:02:08
Originally by: Vitae
Assume all you want..but that doesn't make your understanding of game design any better, much less your problem solving skills. The work is ongoing and it probably will be for a long time..if not till the end of the game itself.
CCP can do many things, but what they shouldn't do..which they wont, so I'm not worried..is listen to you.
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: davet517
Players can't be expected to restrain their "rules of engagement" in a sandbox. What CCP can do, though, is provide strong enough drawbacks and risks to assembling huge zergs that it's no longer the most effective tactic.
Here's a drawback! The grid won't load and you'll get murdered. I'm not even a blob FC and even I know not to drop a fleet onto an existing grid thats already occupied by an enemy blob. You don't do that in a reinforced node, much less one that not.
And EVERYONE was familiar with the new problems Dominion introduced: If you can force the enemy to have to come directly into your grid from another system (either via cyno or jump gate) -- the upper hand is yours.
Sounds like IT forced your hand and then made you eat it. LOL.
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Ammath
Amarr Burning Technologies Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:27:00 -
[434]
Well CCP is hiring an IT Manager.... so maybe that will help solve your problems with IT in game.
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davet517
Caldari Raata Invicti Undivided
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: davet517 on 06/01/2010 20:28:32
Originally by: Trebor Notlimah
And EVERYONE was familiar with the new problems Dominion introduced: If you can force the enemy to have to come directly into your grid from another system (either via cyno or jump gate) -- the upper hand is yours.
Sounds like IT forced your hand and then made you eat it. LOL.
I wasn't involved in this fight, so IT didn't do anything in particular to me, but I've been in similar fights for years.
Are you saying that you're good with Eve's "end game" being all about who has the best time-zone management and Lag-Fu?
It seems to me that if flooding a system, dropping some SBUs, and then just waiting is a more or less assured "I win" because jumping in is always suicide 0.0 sov warfare is going to get very predictable, and very boring, pretty quick.
It won't be long before some genius figures out that rather than jumping into that 500 man blob, you just jump (or bridge) into one of their systems and drop SBUs instead. We trade space forever, and never engage.
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: davet517
Are you saying that you're good with Eve's "end game" being all about who has the best time-zone management and Lag-Fu?
It won't be long before some genius figures out that rather than jumping into that 500 man blob, you just jump (or bridge) into one of their systems and drop SBUs instead. We trade space forever, and never engage.
Time zone management is built into the sandbox, and has been for awhile -- your enemy can now adjust ihub reo timers to come out when you are at your weakest. So yea. Its part of the 'end-game' and it looks like it will always be. Also control tower stront timers. Both are intended to give a well-organized defender the opportunity to maximize their opportunity to defend their assets.
As for the lag it is a known issue in Dominion. You can find an thread somewhere of Wildly Inappropriate & friends whining about Atlas forcing them to jump directly into an unreinforced? grid and taking them to the cleaners. This was a 200 v 200 fight. So KNOWING this and of several other instances of the lag monster raping fleets -- and KNOWING the fleet that initially holds the grid has an insanely massive advantage -- the Pandemic/Goon/whoever FC knowingly ordered his 500+ man fleet +titans in. Pure suicide.
Thats like watching Wildly Inappropiate stick a fork into a standard 120v electrical socket and get fried to a crisp -- then going to the kitchen, wrapping yourself in aluminum foil, getting a larger fork, going to the laundry room, pulling the dryer off the wall, unplugging it, and sticking your fork into the 220v socket and getting fried to a crisp, then going to God and saying "WTF dude!" Now this isn't an attempt to get the blame off CCP -- they suck donkey balls. But the sandbox is broken and we all know it. Adapt Or DieÖ
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Akov Stohs
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:59:00 -
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Should take note, that goons+friends could of attacked in any of the previous 12 hours, so this is hardly a Timezone issue.
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Fenix Zealot
Caldari Aeon Of Strife
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Posted - 2010.01.06 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Fenix Zealot on 06/01/2010 22:04:48 I find it amusing that people continue to argue the point of eliminating blobs and massive fleets.
Has it occurred to anyone that no matter what you do to change the game's design, if you have one of a thing that works, two of that thing works just a little better, three even more, and so on and so forth?
It doesn't matter what CCP does to change ship stats or alter fleet roles, more of a good thing is always a better thing no matter how you spin it.
If one small fleet of 10 bombers is good, then 2 small fleets of 10 bombers is even better. If one gang of 20 BS is good at taking out sov structures, then 2x 20 man bs gang is even better. I'm sure its obvious where this argument is going...
Are blob tactics always fun and enjoyable? perhaps not... I personally prefer smaller covert stuff with fast action hit and run style tactics. Ultimately the small scale tactics are always there to soften, annoy, harass, and cut down a larger force so that your main large force stands a better chance numerically and tactically. Guerrilla strategies are never designed to win wars. The goal of Guerrilla tactics is to attempt to force a larger/stronger opponent into a weaker position capable of being directly assaulted with a more traditional force. Instances of Guerrilla tactics actually resulting in a total victory are mere coincidences... a result of an enemy forfeiting before the conventional assault takes place.
And in addition, guerrilla tactics only work when they are to scale with the opposing force in question. Again the larger the enemy force, and the more powerful it is, the larger your harassing force needs to be to make an impact. In other words, again the numbers game comes to play. All of warfare is like this... in real life, in video games, and much much more.
It might be time to refocus the discussion toward something that actually makes more sense than *****ing about blobs...
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davet517
Caldari Raata Invicti Undivided
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Posted - 2010.01.06 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: davet517 on 06/01/2010 22:55:16
Originally by: Fenix Zealot
I find it amusing that people continue to argue the point of eliminating blobs and massive fleets.
Has it occurred to anyone that no matter what you do to change the game's design, if you have one of a thing that works, two of that thing works just a little better, three even more, and so on and so forth?
It doesn't matter what CCP does to change ship stats or alter fleet roles, more of a good thing is always a better thing no matter how you spin it.
If one small fleet of 10 bombers is good, then 2 small fleets of 10 bombers is even better. If one gang of 20 BS is good at taking out sov structures, then 2x 20 man bs gang is even better. I'm sure its obvious where this argument is going...
The way to make bigger not better is to make bigger riskier and more vulnerable, which was my point. Just introduce forms of asymetrical warfare to the game that get more effective/attractive the bigger the blob gets, so that a 50 man fleet is more or less immune, but a 500 man fleet is just asking for it.
Bombers are a good example of this. Trying to launch a wave of bombs against a 10 man HAC gang is expensive and usually ineffective unless the HAC gang is inept. Against a 100 man RR or sniper BS gang it can be pretty damn effective if it's done well.
My point was that CCP should be looking at introducing more weapons and tactics that make fleets progressively more vulnerable to guerilla warfare the bigger they get. At some point blobbing up will be too risky and ultimately ineffective, so it won't be done.
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TheDarkestDestroyer
Minmatar Intergalactic Hunters of ManBearPig
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: TheDarkestDestroyer CCP... have clearly displayed that they have no intention of making their game playable under their new mechanics.
I assume you'll be first in the queue for the test server, and that you're not just whining because your side died horribly.
try reading the whole post I'm not on a side I'm trying to get on the test server but when you click the pretty red link for the patch to make the current live server client work on the test server and you install the patch you get an error 404 when you click the link for the full installation you also get an error 404 also another prime example of CCP not having their *** together
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davet517
Caldari Raata Invicti Undivided
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Akov Stohs Should take note, that goons+friends could of attacked in any of the previous 12 hours, so this is hardly a Timezone issue.
OK, but, you're 4000+ in your alliance? So, here's how it goes unless things have changed:
1. Goons start logging in.
2. We have them on our buddy lists (especially key people like titan pilots), so we see this.
3. We light up MSN/IRC/Whatever with calls to log in.
4. Goon shows up to find the same 300+ camping.
Beyond a certain size, it hardly matters. If your alliance is reasonably active you can always get at least 10% of your numbers to log on whenever.
The timezone management has little to do with reinforcement timers. It has to do with when you flooded the system in the first place. The aggressor is always going to have the initiative.
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. An agressor won't be able to keep all of the systems pre-loaded after a certain point, so the initiative will lose its edge. I'm sure that after a while people will get a better feel for when to defend and when to just let an attacker spread themselves out first before counter-attacking. ---------------- We're recruiting quality players. Check us out. |
lord khnrageX
Amarr Socialites Of The Crazy Horse Saloon
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Posted - 2010.01.07 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: davet517
Originally by: Akov Stohs Should take note, that goons+friends could of attacked in any of the previous 12 hours, so this is hardly a Timezone issue.
OK, but, you're 4000+ in your alliance? So, here's how it goes unless things have changed:
1. Goons start logging in.
2. We have them on our buddy lists (especially key people like titan pilots), so we see this.
3. We light up MSN/IRC/Whatever with calls to log in.
4. Goon shows up to find the same 300+ camping.
Beyond a certain size, it hardly matters. If your alliance is reasonably active you can always get at least 10% of your numbers to log on whenever.
The timezone management has little to do with reinforcement timers. It has to do with when you flooded the system in the first place. The aggressor is always going to have the initiative.
It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. An agressor won't be able to keep all of the systems pre-loaded after a certain point, so the initiative will lose its edge. I'm sure that after a while people will get a better feel for when to defend and when to just let an attacker spread themselves out first before counter-attacking.
You are stupid arent you. The agressor usually always has the initiative. If you can strike quick and without the enemy knowing at a time the dont suspect then you've pretty much won the battle. Blobs arent the problem the've become the basis of 0.0 warfare. If you come in with 500 you wont take a lot of space. If you have 1000+ you could take a lot of space. The problem is the server. If it cant load the players then its broken. Then server problem seems to have been countered by jumping in at 1k and using seperate cynos.
Your trying to get people to change their ways. Its not going to happen. You sound like some whiner who is complaining about blobs because your in some small alliance and your fleet got poped because your enemy had the advantage of numbers. The counter to a blob is a blob. But an even better counter is a good blob thats better equiped and more experianced.
If ccp cant adapt their game to suit the needs of the players then the game is broken. They need to get the servers up to maximum. ANd to answer you counter rants. The titans where the counter. But they werent properly made so that now there are like 290 in game. If ccp makes some new counter it will be too powerful or be completly broken. |
davet517
Caldari Raata Invicti Undivided
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Posted - 2010.01.07 02:58:00 -
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Edited by: davet517 on 07/01/2010 02:58:56
Originally by: lord khnrageX You are stupid arent you.
Sorry, you lost me right there. If you've already lost your ability to be civil, there's no point. Doesn't take much, does it? ---------------- We're recruiting quality players. Check us out. |
Captain Aries
Minmatar Point of No Return
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Posted - 2010.01.07 20:16:00 -
[444]
ooook?
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OrDeR
Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.07 20:34:00 -
[445]
Originally by: davet517 Edited by: davet517 on 06/01/2010 22:55:16
Originally by: Fenix Zealot
I find it amusing that people continue to argue the point of eliminating blobs and massive fleets.
Has it occurred to anyone that no matter what you do to change the game's design, if you have one of a thing that works, two of that thing works just a little better, three even more, and so on and so forth?
It doesn't matter what CCP does to change ship stats or alter fleet roles, more of a good thing is always a better thing no matter how you spin it.
If one small fleet of 10 bombers is good, then 2 small fleets of 10 bombers is even better. If one gang of 20 BS is good at taking out sov structures, then 2x 20 man bs gang is even better. I'm sure its obvious where this argument is going...
The way to make bigger not better is to make bigger riskier and more vulnerable, which was my point. Just introduce forms of asymetrical warfare to the game that get more effective/attractive the bigger the blob gets, so that a 50 man fleet is more or less immune, but a 500 man fleet is just asking for it.
Bombers are a good example of this. Trying to launch a wave of bombs against a 10 man HAC gang is expensive and usually ineffective unless the HAC gang is inept. Against a 100 man RR or sniper BS gang it can be pretty damn effective if it's done well.
My point was that CCP should be looking at introducing more weapons and tactics that make fleets progressively more vulnerable to guerilla warfare the bigger they get. At some point blobbing up will be too risky and ultimately ineffective, so it won't be done.
Can someone stop davet517 from posting?
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Ardetia
Caldari The Flying Tigers United Front Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.07 20:41:00 -
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Edited by: Ardetia on 07/01/2010 20:41:39 experts agree that if davet stops posting, caod will once again be the upper echelons of the eve forums seriously
also, 300 isnt a blob.. and it will get fixed, just not right now :P pretty sure ccp is working on alot of other things, other than eve.. such as dust514 and yea, its a shame
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.07 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ardetia
experts agree that if davet stops posting, caod will once again be the upper echelons of the eve forums seriously
Less Davet. Moar Derek Chu.
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davet517
Caldari Raata Invicti Undivided
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Posted - 2010.01.08 00:42:00 -
[448]
Originally by: Trebor Notlimah
Originally by: Ardetia
experts agree that if davet stops posting, caod will once again be the upper echelons of the eve forums seriously
Less Davet. Moar Derek Chu.
Derek is awesome, tbfh. I'm just trying to balance him out so that CAOD awesomeness doesn't become so massive that it creates a black hole that sucks up the rest of the forum. ---------------- We're recruiting quality players. Check us out. |
Tzujeih
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.08 04:14:00 -
[449]
Are you guys still gloating about killing desynched ships after 15 pages or has the topic changed.
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Vitae
Amarr Legion of Lost Souls
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Posted - 2010.01.08 06:46:00 -
[450]
Originally by: Tzujeih Are you guys still gloating about killing desynched ships after 15 pages or has the topic changed.
I'm sorry we're not as good at it as Goonswarm..we'll try to reach 30 pages+ some day.
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Trebor Notlimah
Gallente Lone Star EVE Group Veni Vidi Vici
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Posted - 2010.01.08 16:23:00 -
[451]
Originally by: Vitae
Originally by: Tzujeih Are you guys still gloating about killing desynched ships after 15 pages or has the topic changed.
I'm sorry we're not as good at it as Goonswarm..we'll try to reach 30 pages+ some day.
Contributing to a cause.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr GK inc. Panda Team
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Posted - 2010.01.08 17:03:00 -
[452]
Originally by: Tzujeih Are you guys still gloating about killing desynched ships after 15 pages or has the topic changed.
What's even funnier is that you're still butthurt about it. ___
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Tinnian Maso
Gallente B4D W0LF Undivided
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Posted - 2010.01.08 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Pudgy McFudge
Originally by: Metal Dude
Originally by: Pudgy McFudge
Originally by: Metal Dude It was Saturday. You had all day to build up your US TZ forces along with euro TZ forces, just like IT did. You failed.
It was Saturday and I didn't spend all day playing internet spaceships. I failed.
Don't you guys brag about how you camped in BoB in PR- 23/7 for a month? Now you can't be bothered to respond to one of your failures to keep your pets happy, so it's everyone elseÆs fault that your incompetence cost you titans, caps, fleet and the system? How inconvenient for you.
We never camped BoB into PR-, BoB was the best corp in goonsawrm at the time. We camped Kenzoku.
To be honest it was less bragging about what we did and more laughing about what Kenny didn't do.
And now the shoe's on the other foot, the tears flow?
You reap what you sow....ClichTs FTW!!
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Sandwich PvP
Caldari The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.08 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tzujeih Are you guys still gloating about killing desynched ships after 15 pages or has the topic changed.
Due to the ongoing snowstorm in y-2, caused by the incredible amount of goon-splot tears generated by the little incident, we are petitioning to change the topic to : Goon-splot tears, traffic hazard or tasty treat?
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King Dave
Gallente The Viral Coercion Phenomenon
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Posted - 2010.01.09 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Jebb Jones Many dedicated pilots died tonight in Y-2 given that we could never load Y-2.
I encourage all to leave the game if this does not improve!
I'm still laughing.....
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IIVY
Gallente Nitro Corp Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.09 08:53:00 -
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goons pay for their sins now....o.0
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Minmatar H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.09 08:54:00 -
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Originally by: Tzujeih Are you guys still gloating about killing desynched ships after 15 pages or has the topic changed.
How are those reimbursements coming?
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Shaitis
Caldari Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2010.01.09 09:39:00 -
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I was dying due to lag for last 2 years, dying north, dying south, dying in delve, dying in tenal. Thats why I'm always buying twice ships more than I need ;)
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