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Nemori Sanstari
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Posted - 2010.01.04 17:12:00 -
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A few complex questions.
I know 1/10 and 2/10 plexes are static, and you can find them on the overview and via the in-game map, but what about 3+/10?
How do they work? When do they spawn and despawn? Do they only spawn in certain systems, or can they spawn anywhere in a given "set" of systems? Or perhaps they can spawn anywhere in a given region, so if I'm looking for a particular plex, I should just hang out in a specific region until I get lucky? If this is true, are there any online resources that can tell me where to find certain plexes? (sorry for so many questiosn)
My next question is, if they are dynamic and randomly spawn, what's the point of the eve.grismar.net complex database? How accurate can it be if these plexes are dynamic?
Thanks for the help.
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.04 17:37:00 -
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3/10 and 4/10 (and higher) can only be found by directly scanning them using probes or as an escalation from a Cosmic Anomoly.
The 3/10 and 4/10 can spawn in Empire... I've even had a 0.0 Cosmic Anomoly escalate into the Serpentis Phi 4/10.
They despawn when the trigger is complete (typically when a certain entity has been blown up). The Serpentis DED plexes will typically spawn in space where you get Serpentis belt rats and so on.
Of the plexes that spawn dynamically, the content within the DED plex remains static.
I hope that helps.
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Ophelia Ursus
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Posted - 2010.01.04 18:20:00 -
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A minor addition to the above - 3/10 plexes are found in highsec, 4/10 plexes are found in both high and lowsec, 5/10 plexes are found in lowsec, 6/10 plexes are found in both low and nullsec, and 7/10 and higher plexes are found only in nullsec.
The grismar.net database is outdated and refers to the time before the 3/10 and higher plexes were made non-static and moved into the exploration system. There are no online resources that will help you find a specific plex per se - just find a quiet set of systems inhabited by the pirate faction you want to shoot and go probing. If you find a backwater constellation or two to scan, you'll get a fairly steady supply of DED plexes, escalation sites and radars.
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
Burn The Witch
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Posted - 2010.01.04 18:36:00 -
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i am not sure how high u can get in low sec with the plexes, couple days ago i found a 6/10 crimson hand depot in a 0.4, during static plexes days max u could get in low sec was 5/10.
the plex didn't despawn until i actually went in and cleared the first stage -_- then i kept getting disconnected and it despawned an hour later :( no corpum a-type eanm for me
the way it works these days is they spawn in the whole region only restriction is sec of the system and are related to the npc that spawns in the region. u won't find gurista plex in amamake, or angel plex in nalvula.
1.0 - 0.5 spawns 1-2-3-4/10
0.4 - 0.1 spawns 5-6/10 (the 6/10 i can confirm in 0.4)
0.0 spawns 5-6-7-8-9-10/10 (don't quote me on this)
angel - gist
gurista - pith
sansha - centus
serpentis - corelun
blood - corpi
so yeah basicly if you are looking for a particular plex u should scan in the area where the empire version npc hangs out, i think they show up as unknown sigs once u get a certain scan strength the complex name shows up and u can decide if it is worth your time to scan it out.
eve.grismar is from the old days and hasn't been relevant since ccp removed static plexes.
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Nemori Sanstari
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Posted - 2010.01.04 18:47:00 -
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Thanks for the replies, all. The grismar thing was really throwing me off.
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Krinthe
Gallente
Lords of Awesome
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Posted - 2010.01.04 19:38:00 -
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Hope the OP doesnt mind me asking a question within your thread, I figured why start a new thread when my question is on the same topic as yours...
How do you know if you have found a DED complex? Is it actually labeled DED or something cause I have never found one if they are labeled that way.
I know that in the scanner settings, I can set it so I can see where "some" DED complexes are located, but I assume these are the low low level complexes.
Ive found a great deal many complexes which are named all kinds of different things, such as Serpentis Major/Minor complexes as well as many other types. Are these DED complexes?
And, out of curiousity, What does DED mean anyways?
TIA for any replies 
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
Burn The Witch
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Posted - 2010.01.04 19:50:00 -
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Edited by: Trinity Faetal on 04/01/2010 19:53:37
the DED sites wil show up as unknown, u won't know for sure if it is a ded plex until you warp to it or are familiar with the name of the plex, which will show up at a certain %, grismar has the names and ratings.
DED = Dog Eat Dog, which is a division of concord that occupies itself with 0.0 pirates and attacking pirate complexes and installations, they must be loaded with phat lewt!
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Nemori Sanstari
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Posted - 2010.01.04 20:05:00 -
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I'm pretty sure a DED Plex will have a popup message that contains info about the difficulty, upon warping to it, right?
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Krinthe
Gallente
Lords of Awesome
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Posted - 2010.01.04 20:16:00 -
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Ok, so to make sure im understanding...
The plexes I have found, which after further scanning becomes labeled "Serpentis ____", these are NOT DED plexes, correct?
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
Burn The Witch
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Posted - 2010.01.04 22:37:00 -
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 Originally by: Krinthe
Ok, so to make sure im understanding...
The plexes I have found, which after further scanning becomes labeled "Serpentis ____", these are NOT DED plexes, correct?
depends, if it has a static plex name and shows a DED warning when trying to warp to it, then it is a DED plex.
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Kochiriwa
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.01.05 01:43:00 -
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Just on the back of this discussion, I'm in the process of clearing out my first DED complex. However, where do I find out where to take the Overseer's effects?
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Geldar Wroontik
Gallente
Galactic System Lords Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.05 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kochiriwa
Just on the back of this discussion, I'm in the process of clearing out my first DED complex. However, where do I find out where to take the Overseer's effects?
DED stations buy them. As far as I know most of them are in lowsec, or require a trip through lowsec to get there. They sell for varying amounts - 8th Tier go for, like, 1.2mil, and the 20th Tier go for up in the many many millions.
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Krinthe
Gallente
Lords of Awesome
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Posted - 2010.01.05 03:35:00 -
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Originally by: Trinity Faetal
Originally by: Krinthe
Ok, so to make sure im understanding...
The plexes I have found, which after further scanning becomes labeled "Serpentis ____", these are NOT DED plexes, correct?
depends, if it has a static plex name and shows a DED warning when trying to warp to it, then it is a DED plex.
I see, Ok, thats what I was wondering. If its a DED site, you will know it. Which in turn means that with ALL the long hours of scanning and probing for the past few months, Ive yet to find a single DED plex. I know about the ones which, heh, are obvious, but I never went to them in the thinking it wasnt worth it???
Good topic OP 
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Nemori Sanstari
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Posted - 2010.01.05 16:34:00 -
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Come to think of it, I haven't found a DED plex in a loooong time either. How rare are these suckers exactly?
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Bloodmaid
Shattered Storm
THE F0RSAKEN
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Posted - 2010.01.06 00:49:00 -
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sorry if this sounds obvious but for me personally I have found 4 or 5 DED zones and they have been signatures not anomolies.
I find signatures are a little harder to track down but if you follow that little scan youtube tutor on the main CCP page it has made finding them a hell of alot easier.
I think this was said before but they will be listed as unknown and will give you a warning DED space something or rather
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Noun Verber
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.01.06 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Nemori Sanstari
Come to think of it, I haven't found a DED plex in a loooong time either. How rare are these suckers exactly?
If you're in crowded space, other people did them before you scanned them.
Also, not all DED stations are in lowsec, there are quite a few in highsec
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Kva Plexcha
Gallente
Doing You Right
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Posted - 2010.01.06 10:50:00 -
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Couple of things ...
First, some plexes have popups when you warp to them. They don't have to be DED plexes. But if you find and warp to a DED plex the popup will say at the bottom "DED Threat Assesment Level 6/10 Dangerous"
Second, the best place to sell the Overseers effects are at the NPC CONCORD stations. There is one in Vellanie (not sure of the system spelling, sorry) which is hi sec and 3 jumps from Jita. Most CONCORD stations are in lowsec,, but there are some in hi sec, you just have to look.
In general most explorers will be actively looking for and will run the DED sites as soon as they find them. In hi sec, you have to worry about others coming and stealing your loot, in low sec you have to worry about others coming and killing you.
I have never found a 5/10 in 0.0, afaik the 6/10 spawns in both low and null as astated earlier.
DED sites are signatures not anomalies
DED sites never escalate
Anomalies have a very small chance to escalate to DED sites.
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Tryaha
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Posted - 2010.01.06 14:30:00 -
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Just look at the Grismar complex listing, if it's not there, it is not a DED complex.
Most of the time when looking for signatures you will find escalation sites like: (Serpentis) Base, Hub, Provicial HQ, Fleet Staging point etc. Sometimes you get lucky and find a "classic" DED plex.
Upon completing these, i believe it immediatly respawns anywhere in a region where those NPC's are found.
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