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RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.23 06:18:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:You're thinking of incursions.
A while back I proposed the idea of corporate missions. They'd be similar to incursions in difficulty and would be designed in such a way that only members of the accepting corporation would get rewards. It would be incursions without the pickup fleets, encouraging long-term relationships to be built and giving PVE-centric corps larger goals. Also, they would serve to develop skills more suitable to PVP. In my idea, these would be THE best highsec income, as they require long-term organization and cooperation.
So you want incursions without competition for sites? This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.23 06:29:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:I believe the word you're looking for is "wormholes". I have never messed with them but from my understanding wormholes might start in highsec but they lead to what amounts to nullsec so no definitely not wormholes.
They are PvE content that absolutely requires good teamwork and strong bonds of trust. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.23 06:52:00 -
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IIshira wrote:RubyPorto wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:You're thinking of incursions.
A while back I proposed the idea of corporate missions. They'd be similar to incursions in difficulty and would be designed in such a way that only members of the accepting corporation would get rewards. It would be incursions without the pickup fleets, encouraging long-term relationships to be built and giving PVE-centric corps larger goals. Also, they would serve to develop skills more suitable to PVP. In my idea, these would be THE best highsec income, as they require long-term organization and cooperation. So you want incursions without competition for sites? No I didn't say I want incursions without competition. I said some forum of highsec multiplayer content that would require 3 to 5 pilots. I even said no logistics so that is nothing like the current incursions. This thread is not about Incursions or the recent nerf. I only mentioned them because it was the ONLY highsec content that required a fleet. Why do so many lowsec / nullsec pilots feel threatened by the concept of additional content for highsec? Do you honestly think your huge alliances will collapse when everyone in Eve says "oh wow new highsec content!"?? Guys if you have reasonable a disagreement please say why but don't the thread derailed by trolling.
Look at the name quoted, now back at yours, now back at the name quoted. Sadly, your name is not his name, but if you use Old Spice, your name could smell like his name.
HS is roughly the Solo play zone. There wasn't any group PvE content there before incursions (in fact, there's never been any compelling mechanical incentive to form close knit groups). Low/Null/WH is roughly the group play zone. There are enormous incentives to form tight knit groups in all of those areas, both for PvE and mutual defense.
l4s make 50-70m Incursions make ~80-100m/toon Maxed out, Anoms make ~100m/toon
There's not much room between 70m and 80m to shoehorn new income sources into HS. (And since you want fewer people in the group, I assume you're not asking for the same pay as incursions). This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.23 21:55:00 -
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IIshira wrote: I'm not asking for a a big money maker like incursions but something a little bit more fun and profitable than solo missions. If they really don't want it they won't do it. Im just asking for the content to be available. The pay won't be so high as to lure people who really don't like it.
Also why do some players act like it's such a bad thing to do PVE to make ISK? Do you honestly think anyone is in a Hulk for entertainment?? Part of Eve is about making ISK. New ships don't grow on trees.
The content is available. You just refuse to go to it. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.23 23:39:00 -
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IIshira wrote:RubyPorto wrote:IIshira wrote: I'm not asking for a a big money maker like incursions but something a little bit more fun and profitable than solo missions. If they really don't want it they won't do it. Im just asking for the content to be available. The pay won't be so high as to lure people who really don't like it.
Also why do some players act like it's such a bad thing to do PVE to make ISK? Do you honestly think anyone is in a Hulk for entertainment?? Part of Eve is about making ISK. New ships don't grow on trees.
The content is available. You just refuse to go to it. In highsec?
Read the second sentence. Just because you refuse to go where there is group content aside from Incursions, doesn't mean that CCP needs to cater to you.
L5s used to be in HS. CCP decided that they preferred group (semi-)instanced content to exist only outside of HS. L5s are now only available in LS. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.24 00:52:00 -
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IIshira wrote: Read the first word in the title of this thread. The whole topic of this post is adding content in highsec. Not about what content already exists in low or nullsec. Please keep it on topic.
And l5s (group missions) were moved out of HS for a reason. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.24 23:25:00 -
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Pi-zwei one wrote:RubyPorto wrote:IIshira wrote: Read the first word in the title of this thread. The whole topic of this post is adding content in highsec. Not about what content already exists in low or nullsec. Please keep it on topic.
And l5s (group missions) were moved out of HS for a reason. And they are almost dead now.. There was no reason at all, just a failed try to force peeps into low.
Either way, CCP said with that move that they didn't want group missions in HS. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.25 01:29:00 -
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IIshira wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Pi-zwei one wrote:RubyPorto wrote:IIshira wrote: Read the first word in the title of this thread. The whole topic of this post is adding content in highsec. Not about what content already exists in low or nullsec. Please keep it on topic.
And l5s (group missions) were moved out of HS for a reason. And they are almost dead now.. There was no reason at all, just a failed try to force peeps into low. Either way, CCP said with that move that they didn't want group missions in HS. And we all know CCP has never done something then realized it was a mistake. Just because CCP does something doesn't mean we can't ask for something different on the forums. If CCP did something to mess with what you like to do in Eve I'm sure you would be the first to post on here!
What you claim to like to do exists in EvE. It's just not in places that are convenient for you (or in the exact instanced form you want; Incursions are group PvE in HS. It's what you asked for). This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.25 02:08:00 -
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IIshira wrote:RubyPorto wrote:
What you claim to like to do exists in EvE. It's just not in places that are convenient for you (or in the exact instanced form you want; Incursions are group PvE in HS. It's what you asked for).
Please reread the original post again before you reply. 3-5 pilots In highsec No logistics Makes more than level 4 missions. This is not Incursions... I understand you don't agree with the idea but at this point you're just posting something to troll without even thinking. It only makes you look silly and derails the intent of the thread. Now back to the thread topic... Does anyone have an intelligent response as to why this is a bad or good idea?
If it can be done without logistics, it can be done solo. L5s proved that. You just want l5s back in HS. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |

RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2012.06.25 23:29:00 -
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IIshira wrote:I just would like to see small fleet content in highsec where a few pilots could do. PVE content in Eve could use some improvement.
I think any time you talk about making highsec better big nullsec alliances feel threatened that their portion of the ISK faucet might be getting smaller. They can control who makes ISK from nullsec but they have no control of ISK made in highsec. Yes some try with suicide ganking but that costs them ISK too.
Incursion Outpost sites (or whatever they're called, the ones lower than VGs).
But no, you also want a lot more profit. Well, sonny, for that you need to either take a risk or put in more effort (Nullsec is only safe for ratters because of the combined efforts of hundreds of people. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody. |
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