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sexybayby	Posted - 2010.01.06 17:05:00 - [31] Originally by: Dupre Indelian Not all people who are botting and hacking accounts come from China. Korean Players are also responsible for a fairly large amount of these incidents and yes, I think it is part of their gaming culture: If you are not botting or using various hacks to get an advantage, then it only shows that you are too stupid to cheat yourself. Bottom line is, don't play on servers with lots of people from these countries and never ever play games from a MMORPG developer from that part of the world. NC Failsoft is certainly among those to avoid. You are stupid as ****ing brick, do you know that ?
Dupre Indelian	Posted - 2010.01.06 17:33:00 - [32] Originally by: sexybayby Originally by: Dupre Indelian Not all people who are botting and hacking accounts come from China. Korean Players are also responsible for a fairly large amount of these incidents and yes, I think it is part of their gaming culture: If you are not botting or using various hacks to get an advantage, then it only shows that you are too stupid to cheat yourself. Bottom line is, don't play on servers with lots of people from these countries and never ever play games from a MMORPG developer from that part of the world. NC Failsoft is certainly among those to avoid. You are stupid as ****ing brick, do you know that ? Did I hurt your feelings?
Sade Onyx	Posted - 2010.01.06 17:58:00 - [33] The burning question then has to be: Do CCP even bother to look for themselves, or are they entirly dependent on the community reports? understand that your busy n that, but Tranqulity IS your product so rather than just sitting pretty behind your dev computer on tests servers and programing applications maybe you should log on to tranquility and TAKE A LOOK FOR YOURSELFS!
DeathRavens	Posted - 2010.01.06 18:22:00 - [34] Edited by: DeathRavens on 06/01/2010 18:24:37 China people have really low income $ / month.Not enough for good living + childrens... this is why they farm additional easy money with a games. Edit: This is all about surviving,not because they like to farm a lot.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2010.01.06 18:28:00 - [35] Originally by: Sade Onyx The burning question then has to be: Do CCP even bother to look for themselves, or are they entirly dependent on the community reports? understand that your busy n that, but Tranqulity IS your product so rather than just sitting pretty behind your dev computer on tests servers and programing applications maybe you should log on to tranquility and TAKE A LOOK FOR YOURSELFS! You might take a moment to discover how many accounts have been banned for bot use before you embarrass yourself further. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
sexybayby	Posted - 2010.01.06 18:31:00 - [36] Originally by: Dupre Indelian Originally by: sexybayby Originally by: Dupre Indelian Not all people who are botting and hacking accounts come from China. Korean Players are also responsible for a fairly large amount of these incidents and yes, I think it is part of their gaming culture: If you are not botting or using various hacks to get an advantage, then it only shows that you are too stupid to cheat yourself. Bottom line is, don't play on servers with lots of people from these countries and never ever play games from a MMORPG developer from that part of the world. NC Failsoft is certainly among those to avoid. Inappropriate comments removed. StevieSG Did I hurt your feelings? Nah.... your idiot and admin's are covering your back.
Armoured C Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.01.06 18:54:00 - [37] i would never let any one use this account, mainly because they might post something good on the forums that can not happen
Morphisea	Posted - 2010.01.06 19:39:00 - [38] Originally by: GM Horse I've sadly misplaced my magic "find farmers in ravens" button. So yes, petitions reporting these people to us are quite vital. There isn't much magic involved. Just go to Sivala (or any other hi lvl 4 hub probably) and you can see hgdhgdhf and his friend ytytweyw and or mr. trtrsdtss farming their hearts out. Follow their isk trail and there you go, isk farmers and buyers busted !
Trinity Faetal Gallente Burn The Witch	Posted - 2010.01.06 19:52:00 - [39] Originally by: Borun Tal "Serenity" is the name of the Chinese server?!?!! How ironic is that!!! :) ohno a Serenity/chinese reference. if you don't see the connection then you're just lol. CCP often uses movie references. Dr. Strangelove, Gen. Buck Turgidson, Bat Guano!. anyway isk farmers, death to them! ----------------------------------- woot, free zephyr, ccp won me back.
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries Revival Of The Talocan Empire	Posted - 2010.01.06 20:06:00 - [40] Originally by: Nawt Ovarpwiced The impression i from playing open beta on the Chinese aion server's was that botting was widely accepted in china. This does not at all mean that everyone over there accepts it/likes it/thinks it is fair. I was meaning that its far far more common, and alot less is done about the bots over there (which again pushes me to believe its more widly accepted as "normal" to do in china) I played Open Beta Aion here in the U.S., everyone whined about Game Guard being too intrusive so they removed it here. They use it in Asia pretty heavily to stop botters/macroers. So to say they condone botting is laughable. I aso played iRO (international Ragnarok Online) another Korean game. They are more strict than we are about that stuff, Gravity didn't approve of dual clients for many years.

Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Research and Manufacturing Corp.	Posted - 2010.01.06 20:25:00 - [41] Originally by: Dupre Indelian and never ever play games from a MMORPG developer from that part of the world. I play NavyField (not an MMORPG, but it is an MMO), which is made by a Korean company. As far as I can tell there is no big problem there with bots or what not. At least not anymore than with any other MMO game out there. Originally by: Akita T this whole game is just me playing with myself
Scout Ops	Posted - 2010.01.06 20:35:00 - [42] Originally by: Sumelar I never talk in local, I ignore convo's from people I don't know, and if anyone ever came into my missions, I'd ignore them there too since most people doing that are only doing it to get a rise out of you. By your logic, I'm an isk farmer. supreme carebear spotted. nah u not a ISK farmer, you just one of those autistic (ingame) pilots that will never socialize. Plenty of them. Is your CSPA set to 1million by any chance? I'd bet if I drop a jetcan full of arkonor in your nose while im on a shuttle and no corpies around, you would warpout like a scared kittie
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries Revival Of The Talocan Empire	Posted - 2010.01.06 20:39:00 - [43] Originally by: Scout Ops Originally by: Sumelar I never talk in local, I ignore convo's from people I don't know, and if anyone ever came into my missions, I'd ignore them there too since most people doing that are only doing it to get a rise out of you. By your logic, I'm an isk farmer. supreme carebear spotted. nah u not a ISK farmer, you just one of those autistic (ingame) pilots that will never socialize. Plenty of them. Is your CSPA set to 1million by any chance? I'd bet if I drop a jetcan full of arkonor in your nose while im on a shuttle and no corpies around, you would warpout like a scared kittie Troll spotted.
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2010.01.06 22:41:00 - [44] Originally by: Mr Epeen I am an ISK farmer. I have spent many a day grinding ISK for 10 hours or more. I was under the impression that acquiring wealth was a valid strategy for advancement in this game. Am I wrong? Mr Epeen ^^^Trollfail^^^ Let me know when you do 23/7 for over a week with no outside help. Maybe then I'll consider you as an ISK farmer. ISK farmers farm ISK for the purpose of selling it in the real world, also known as RMT. Real players can play for maybe three or four days of 23/7 before they collapse. There are well-known "flags" to look for when searching for ISK farmers and macro-miners or macro-mission runners. Many can be implemented in a simple database search that could be run with a click of a button to give a list of the most likely ISK farmers/macroers in the game. It has not been made public by CCP if such a search is used. They would probably be wise not to let that be known. Let's name some systems and some obvious clues: Any ice field, any 'roid belt, any system where a level 4 mission can run. Ingunn, Osmon, Kakakela, Motsu, Oichiya, Tolle, etc... Player keyboard mash names and "serial names" such as asdfg, asdfg1, asdfg2, asdfg (ad nauseum), zxcvg, zxcgv, zxcgh, zxchg; dictionary-pair names such as burn butterfly, lost the; misspelling dictionary names such as sadd teh, teh pwn, etc... Not that someone didn't intentionally misspell a name, but when you see 10 mackinaws with 2 ice mining lasers, one ice mining upgrade and a civilian shield booster, all sporting birthdays just minutes apart, all sitting pointing their noses at the same bookmarked can or 'roid, and running, well, almost 23/7, mining, docking, undocking and mining with the accuracy and repetitiveness of the atomic clock, well then that's a pretty good clue that a macro is in use. Mission runners do the same, blitzing missions for the bounties, running mission after mission. Farmer fleet of choice for missions: two ravens, an abaddon, a dominix and a hurricane are dead giveaways. Why don't you have a corp mate cover the time you're AFK so both of you can observe a suspected farmer. Day after day for a week, a month. Two months. Watch them run mission after mission non-stop, docking only long enough to cash one in and get another, from uptime to downtime. Notice the 23 day old players with 5.01+ sec status from doing missions in 0.8-1.0 hi-sec. Oh, don't forget that they're flying faction-fit ravens and CNRs valued at 1.2 billion or more. Bottom line: I've been playing almost four years. The patterns are easy to spot. IMO CCP drags their collective butt. Maybe it's the canned response that has soured me. I'd think CCP uses a bot to send out the canned response as I never see the GM that sends the response online when it's sent. Once in a blue moon they publish the "6200 players banned" message. Then server usage drops when the farmers disappear with the numbers increasing as they simply create new accounts. The drain on the servers is noticable. Motsu, Jita and other hubs have been overloaded and overrun. Agents moved. Real hardware added at to CCP's servers for real $$$. The farmers, while some say "ooh they make items cheaper in game (ore, faction and complex items from farming"), do a disservice to the gaming community by not contributing interaction in game on which the game is supposed to be based. By adding lag to the level 4 Agent areas, which are usually right near the market hubs. By pushing servers to their client limits. Oichiya and Mostu's limit used to be around 99 players before agents moved and the hubs reinforced at the expense of real $$$. 2006-2007: 10K players. 2007-2008: 15K players. 2008-2009: 40K players. ISK farming becomes popular with ISK spammers making local chat impossible. 2009-2010: 56K players online, 6200 banned, ice mining and mission macroers still going... And a new "Report ISK Spammer" button. w00t! Now if only I could find my medication... {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
Bhattran	Posted - 2010.01.06 23:28:00 - [45] CCP is working on it, it just takes months and months to collect the data so they can make a big show of how good and hard they working on it. But I suspect if any group, be it a players bot gang or whomever isn't selling that isk RMT then they don't care or look the other way. Absolutely they could use tools like usage statistics etc to red flag likely bots and investigate but they don't seem to do this until they feel the time is right, like after they sell the isk, or hack someone's account etc. For me I've given up on reporting this crap, I see the same macro pilots running around 23/7 mining I guess they don't sell their isk so they get to keep it.
Konoch Caldari Azriel's Legion Free Worlds Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.06 23:37:00 - [46] I guess this is a good reason for hulkaggedon. [CENTER][URL=http://www.wizards.com/magic/playmagic/whatcolorareyou.asp][B]Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Qui
Lady Aja Caldari	Posted - 2010.01.07 01:03:00 - [47] Originally by: Konoch I guess this is a good reason for hulkaggedon. they are just not miners.. also how much trouble can one get into if you extort them of isk? IE : pay us isk or we kill you all. 2b isk later profit... do i need to petition incase it was a legit ransom/extort?
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.01.07 01:13:00 - [48] Edited by: Slade Trillgon on 07/01/2010 01:15:29 Originally by: Lady Aja only violation I KNOW they are doing is sharing accounts. NO ONE is online that many hours of the day... all year So how many individual pilots did it take to monitor all these individuals being online 23/7/365 for you to report it as such? Just saying. But yes definitely put in the petitions if all other comms have failed. Originally by: Armoured C i would never let any one use this account, mainly because they might post something good on the forums that can not happen You fail so bad because that post was good. Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Everseeker United Corporate Ventures	Posted - 2010.01.07 15:40:00 - [49] Edited by: Everseeker on 07/01/2010 15:41:44 A small comment, only slightly related... Some of the names you see like HJfgh65jHhjZ are not ACTUALLY random. What they are is your client attempting to render, in english, a Chinese/Japanese/Korean(CJK) glyph... For more information: Wiki link EverSeeker
Aclyn Seriy Gallente Hollow World Mining Corporation	Posted - 2010.01.13 12:20:00 - [50] Originally by: Lady Aja only violation I KNOW they are doing is sharing accounts. NO ONE is online that many hours of the day... all year Actually some people really do play that much. I used to do it when I was unemployed, playing for 18 hours a day 7 days a week and Im sure as he'll not a Chinese isk farmer. Also why is it that people always blame the Chinese, how racist are you all? I used to know a group of 70 or more isk farmers and they were actually all from Albania. Originally by: Slinkus Gallentus They're actually in free fall but they keep missing the earth.

Intense Thinker Minmatar	Posted - 2010.01.13 12:39:00 - [51] Originally by: Borun Tal "Serenity" is the name of the Chinese server?!?!! How ironic is that!!! :) Yeah, should be Tranquirity? Originally by: a51 duke1406 The girls just dont understand that sunday is pvp night, not cuddle on the couch watching tv night.
Katrina Rawnsberg	Posted - 2010.01.13 13:00:00 - [52] Originally by: GM Horse Edited by: GM Horse on 06/01/2010 10:50:56 If you come across a group of people whom you believe are ISK farmers or other villains, please file a petition! We're powerless without your lovely, tasty petitions. Originally by: Hemp Invader We don't even need to petition them. Just look at the 10 man corps that have one month old players with ravens in 0.0 and they cloak when someone enters system and are online for more than 18 hours a day. Now ban them!!! I've sadly misplaced my magic "find farmers in ravens" button. So yes, petitions reporting these people to us are quite vital. You mean to say you don't have a GM sitting in the, how many asteroid belts are in eve? That's just crazy talk! ;) Where's my 15 dollars going!? oh yeah, all the cool content and fixes and stuff ya'll are pushing out, drats. :)
Fi Vantage Minmatar Kha'rific-Mintor Outriders.	Posted - 2010.01.13 13:10:00 - [53] What's the cheapest way to gank an isk farming BS? There has to be one that's good.
Leocadminone	Posted - 2010.01.14 05:50:00 - [54] Quote: Because they were on from DT to DT, had two-month-old characters flying CNRs, and all had names like asdfgkjgiygfliu? Actually, asdfgqwert1 was an alt I created to HUNT bots - camoflage. Sadly, every war dec he's done against obvious bot corps has been skipped out on - and no way he can suicide gank them in LowSec. I and my fiancee have also largely given up on petitioning obvious botters, as in our experience CCP has NEVER removed anyone for botting, we keep seeing the SAME botters running the same bots months after we petitioned them, pretty much 100% of the ones we've petitioned. It got old being blown off.
AnonyTerrorNinja Minmatar Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport	Posted - 2010.01.14 06:57:00 - [55] I have only one gripe with filing petitions on the farmers... It always leaves an empty, sad space in my heart when my favorite group of probing-result-farmers suddenly stop appearing, leaving me having to probe out real players to ninja loot and salvage from, when a petition's investigation finally concludes and they are removed from the game. sniff ---
Kolatha	Posted - 2010.01.14 07:27:00 - [56] Originally by: Joe Skellington everyone whined about Game Guard being too intrusive And rightly so. All too many people need to completely disable all online security measures, firewall, antivirus, UAC pretty much everything that can prevent security exploits. I can't even run the blasted game at all because Game Guard keeps trying to claim Photoshop is a bot and since I use that a lot more than I use any game Aion is the app that got the boot. My housemate's version works fine but required serious tweeking of our modem's firewall settings before it would allow a connection. Originally by: Joe Skellington so they removed it here. They over reacted with the complete removal. All they needed to do was tone it back a bit. Originally by: Joe Skellington They use it in Asia pretty heavily to stop botters/macroers. So to say they condone botting is laughable. It is precisely because hacking and botting are so much the norm, they are so ingrained into the gaming culture, that IRO and AION and other games from that region have to resort to the overly intrusive heavy duty anti cheat software that is Game Guard. The game developers may not condone botting but the community certainly does.
Kuolematon Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2010.01.14 08:55:00 - [57] Originally by: Leocadminone I and my fiancee have also largely given up on petitioning obvious botters, as in our experience CCP has NEVER removed anyone for botting, we keep seeing the SAME botters running the same bots months after we petitioned them, pretty much 100% of the ones we've petitioned. It got old being blown off. This. "The Amarr are the tanking and ganking floating rods of ~~gold~~crap"
Ginger Lynn Caldari Spook Division	Posted - 2010.01.14 10:05:00 - [58] Edited by: Ginger Lynn on 14/01/2010 10:05:26 Confirming that Jovainnon has macro/farm haulers for a little over a month again. Anyone know how ingunn looks? I was a caldari bear, now I fly the curse and still I suck, whats the problem here...
Demetrius Soter	Posted - 2010.01.19 04:45:00 - [59] Good Job on the isk spammer report tool.
amarian arch	Posted - 2010.01.19 08:44:00 - [60] Let us rise up my brothers and sisters and smite them!



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