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CCP Guard
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Posted - 2011.09.20 11:17:00 -
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SiSi will have a new font in the next build, most likely tomorrow, September 21st.
Read about it in this dev blog and please use this thread to report any issues you encounter on the test server.
General feedback on the new font can be posted here. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.09.21 10:13:00 -
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when this hits SiSi you should see a better version of the font than displayed in the esc menu screenshot :) CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.09.30 18:47:00 -
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It would be great if you could post your issues here and preferably with a screenshot.
CCP Affinity and I will be monitoring this and try to fix issues as soon as we can
Fly safe everybody! CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.01 20:43:00 -
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Thanks for the feedback, I really appreciate it.
Some of those issues have already been raised (and in some cases fixed) internally, the Q has for example been fixed
I'll be creating defects on some of the other issues. CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.02 16:01:00 -
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Athreya wrote:Brynseldimer wrote:I'm not sure if this has been covered, but periods are nigh invisible with this new font and commas aren't much better. Likewise, colons and semicolons are difficult to see. Font without shadow will look different on different color backgrounds. Need to add shadows first then look again. The question is why dont hire good artist to make new font for the game? The artist who is specializing in vector graphic and pixelwork. I can also work with photoshop, but I would never start new font, because I know there are people who can make this work better then myself. Where is old font designer?
There was a font specialist who made the font. I didn't make it myself CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.02 17:25:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Athreya wrote:Brynseldimer wrote:I'm not sure if this has been covered, but periods are nigh invisible with this new font and commas aren't much better. Likewise, colons and semicolons are difficult to see. Font without shadow will look different on different color backgrounds. Need to add shadows first then look again. The question is why dont hire good artist to make new font for the game? The artist who is specializing in vector graphic and pixelwork. I can also work with photoshop, but I would never start new font, because I know there are people who can make this work better then myself. Where is old font designer? There was a font specialist who made the font. I didn't make it myself Well the real question in the end is what changes are going to be made before font hits tranq... ? Will players get some options? Have the issues with font size being adressed and will there be actions to fix them? I have really bad hunch that this will be dejavu from Incarna launch. People get 3 more quarters and ship spinner back, but they lose totally working font and are unable to select it back from options screen. They get pissed because many of these issues and boom - we have perfectly fine expansion turned to disaster again. I remind that people wanted fix to "I1, O0, 5S, 6G&, 8B"-issue and _option_ to choose font size. Someone made decission to reinvent the wheel (again) and create own font to fix the issues. Now we have expensive new font which fixed some old issues issues but caused many brand new ones. People are still unable to choose font size. Well spent subscription fees again. If you licenced "arial unicode ms"-font it is really difficult to understand why didn't you just use it for everything. It has fixed width numbers, is very readable even with smallest 8 pixel height and scales to what ever size you want. It has nice dot and comma. "n" and "h" look like "n" and "h". Letter "a" has nuff spacing on left side. "La" doesn't look like the "L" would be inside the "a". Now look back to the goals: 1. Fix "I1, O0, 5S, 6G&, 8B"-issue 2. Provide _option_ to choose font size. 3. Do not break anything what wasn't broken with old font. When you wake up in the morning when your font fix is about to go live, can you honestly say that these goals have been reached. Some answers would be kewl. It is perfectly ok to think ahead and fear for the worst. I may sound over dramatic, but really trying to ring fair heads up "warning bell" here. Obviously you people are the ones who make the final decisions and form your own future. Sometimes I may not agree with them but unfortunately as your customer I still have to live with 'em (as long I am paying the sub fees).
Some people actually like the new font and agree with us on that it's more readable. It is very hard to please everyone!
We will of course do our best to address all issues that have been raised here (other than the "OMG THE FONT IS UGLY" and other alike).
There won't be a way to use the old font and there won't be a way to select fontsize. That's because it's hard to maintain that in a UI window, if you make the font larger, it's not going to fit there anymore. UI Scaling would be a better way to sort issues with the fontsize, but that's another project. CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.02 17:47:00 -
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McFly wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:
There won't be a way to use the old font and there won't be a way to select fontsize. That's because it's hard to maintain that in a UI window, if you make the font larger, it's not going to fit there anymore. UI Scaling would be a better way to sort issues with the fontsize, but that's another project.
This makes a sad panda.... Screen Real Estate is everything in eve, and destroying our ability to cram as much information as we can on screen is very dissappointing. It took 6 years for us to get the ability to detach and move windows around decently, and now with this font you will be making it even more difficult. Old Font should remain an option. Making the ui and minimum window spacing larger to accomadate the new font is not a solution, it's a hotfix to a problem the new font has created. I know you want to make eve "shiny" but please stop alienating your existing player base for the possibility of gaining more subscribers.
Hmm.. actually a lot of players complain about the font being too small. So making it bigger is helping them out. It's mostly people who play on high resolution screens.
It makes me a sad panda that you feel like I'm alienating our existing player base when I'm just trying to make them happy
Because this font change is mostly for all the players that have complained about the old font (being too small, the letters looking the same etc.) - not to get new people to the game. CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.02 19:59:00 -
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Cedric deBouilard wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:There won't be a way to use the old font and there won't be a way to select fontsize. That's because it's hard to maintain that in a UI window, if you make the font larger, it's not going to fit there anymore. UI Scaling would be a better way to sort issues with the fontsize, but that's another project. yeah, you cant make everyone happy it seems, unless, of course, you give them the ability to scale UI
I'm pretty sure we can find some people who hate that too
But all I can say is that it's something that we want in. CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.03 07:22:00 -
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David Magnus wrote:Logged into SiSi today and noticed a couple things right off the bat. Not sure if these have been addressed but I took a simple screen shot that shows the problem. Please see: http://i.imgur.com/wdU6Z.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/rjBQh.pngThe first letter of a couple of the items is cut off, also none of the stacking numbers fit in the boxes. This is on Windows 7 Pro 64bit, on an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560Ti in fixed windowed mode at 1920x1080 resolution. Thank you very much! EDIT Another interesting font issue: http://i.imgur.com/w7oy8.png
Thank you
The item name cut off has been fixed and so has the fitting window issue, I'll take a look at the stacking numbers today. CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.03 11:47:00 -
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Athreya wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:The item name cut off has been fixed and so has the fitting window issue, I'll take a look at the stacking numbers today. Still have percentage characters out of the rectangles of resist areas. More problems: 1. Counter to lock tagret frequently does not fit locking rectangle as shown on the image below 2. Shield status in tooltip is difficult to understand, to many decimal digits here 3. Tooltip for modules has empty line http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/errorsfv.jpg/4. Analyzing... has hardly readable 3 dots, looks like blured 5. Counter does not fit rectangle http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/210/survey.jpg/
thank you for this:)
1, 4 and 5 have been fixed, I'll take a look at the other. CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.03 12:52:00 -
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thank you! this stuff is really helpful CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.10.03 14:18:00 -
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Salpun wrote:LP store Offers filtered by: cuts off the Only in "Show Affordable Only"
Thank you :) CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.03 15:39:00 -
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Peter Drakon wrote:Hi again! I have checked the new font on Sisi. CCP Punkturis wrote:Some people actually like the new font and agree with us on that it's more readable. I like it very much, it is more readble and much nicer then the old even on huge resolutions. CCP Punkturis wrote:... there won't be a way to select fontsize. ... UI Scaling would be a better way to sort issues with the fontsize, but that's another project. Since I have asked just for this feature, I'm a bit dissapointed that we can't change the font size. Please start the UI scale project asap. What about the font color change option? That would add a whole new way to customize the UI. Peter
I will only add font color change option with different shades of pink
(and no, we won't add that - sorry ) CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.03 15:40:00 -
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Praerian wrote:Could we have next to targeted items shield, armour and structure percentage remaining.
i.e. when sov grinding or shooting capitals would be nice to see that are indeed at 50% armour not trying to guess where we are actually at.
I don't think we need the SH, AR & ST just the percentages would be good.
You're feature creeping!! it is a good idea though. I'll see what I can do with it (not for the font changes though). CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.10.05 10:27:00 -
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Yung Trim wrote:Text changes on POS modules when you are on-lining a module at 1 minute remaining and lower. Proof
Awesome, thank you :) I will take a look into this today! CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Affinity
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Posted - 2011.10.05 10:27:00 -
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Tetractys wrote:Great work!
NB: New font is perfect under linux with wine 1.3.29 self compiled (any resolution!)
woo! Good to hear :) Thanks! CCP Affinity | Quality Assurance | Team BFF |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.05 11:37:00 -
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captain curry wrote:http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/35/20111004023220.jpg/ Someone forgot to add the rounding code, its a minor issue but as seen here it spills over into other boxes. its also seen on displays on the interface if you have some odd buffer (Trimarks on armour, extenders on shields etc). Having .61068427259 of a hitpoint displaying is needless imo, as seen here: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/20111005104559.jpg/ (Also the text readout is broken, as seen here its actually set to absolute readout. Might not be a font issue exclusively however)
This has been fixed CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.05 13:51:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:I found the official thread \o/
I agree that in some places it is a little too large - overview tables and the selected item panel can use a slight tweak smaller in size - 10% or so. It will save a lot of space overall for UI - I know a lot of pilots already are snug on UI space on smaller screens.
I'm sure some people will want it larger, I think that falls down on CCP working on implementing that into their code for customization. I think the gentleman a few posts above me made a thorough description of where things are clearly issues through images.
I also agree that on some of the tables it is challenging to absorb the information on a quick scan - specifically on larger tables of information. I'm trying to identify why exactly, and I feel it has to do with the negative space. Here's my theory - I think the font's negative space doesn't scale up so well for reading large amounts of table information, when you hit near what I would say is around the 12pt mark, which seems to be used in some important places, like the overview and the selected items. The negative space isn't an issue at smaller sizes, such as in the inventory or in the info panels - but as you get larger, the thinness of the font doesn't work out so well towards providing readability in the flow through the negative space to absorb the information smoothly in areas where a lot of data needs to be processed quickly.
Overview has to be readable in under 1/10th of a second. Seriously.
As a PVP Pilot, I have a lot of information to look at in under 10 seconds - check distance, check hp, check shields, check module cycles, check enemy health, check ally health, give 4 different orders to 10 different people, check local scanner for any incoming reinforcements, check local for population spike for ambush, do manual maneuvering to maintain range, listen to friendly comms about their status.
In the amount of time it takes one rep cycle to go off, I have to do all that - so reading the Overview doesn't mean bigger is better. On the overview I probably have about 10 columns up - Tag, Icon, Name, Type, Distance, Velocity, Radial Velocity, Corp, Alliance, Militia - and I need them to fit in a readable space. I think dropping 1 or 2 points on Overview and Market tables will improve readability even for those who prefer larger fonts. I think this applies to the markets, although the justification for 1/10th second reading time might not apply there. :)
P.S. Can we maybe get a screenshot of the overview and a variety of objects on it with the current font size and maybe a 1 pt smaller font size to compare? Showing at least most of these columns as well? Tag, Icon, Name, Type, Distance, Velocity, Radial Velocity, Corp, Alliance, Militia
you know what we did? we added a "Use small font" option to your overview settings (appearance tab) for you guys who think the overview is now too big
it'll only be added for the overview though
and no I won't give you screenshots because then more people are going to make fun of me for having crappy setup and "OMG YOU DON'T PLAY EVE" (on my local) - you'll just have to wait until it hits SiSi CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.10.05 13:59:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:you know what we did? we added a "Use small font" option to your overview settings (appearance tab) for you guys who think the overview is now too big it'll only be added for the overview though and no I won't give you screenshots because then more people are going to make fun of me for having crappy setup and "OMG YOU DON'T PLAY EVE" (on my local) - you'll just have to wait until it hits SiSi Will you marry me?
haha! the nicest thing said to me on the forums yet CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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CCP Punkturis
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:38:00 -
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Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:Grey Stormshadow wrote:Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:you know what we did? we added a "Use small font" option to your overview settings (appearance tab) for you guys who think the overview is now too big it'll only be added for the overview though and no I won't give you screenshots because then more people are going to make fun of me for having crappy setup and "OMG YOU DON'T PLAY EVE" (on my local) - you'll just have to wait until it hits SiSi Half way there. Add it to ship names in hanger, add it to the chat windows, add it to the drone window, etc etc. You went this far, just go a litle bit further now. Don't be scared, remember you are fearless. Size wise really the most meaningful windows are only "overview, chats, drones, scanner (not survey scanner), fleet and watch list". Size of any other window isn't really an issue what comes to space flight. If people could use choose to use small font in all 6 of these, the "problem" with size would be pretty much sorted and dealt with. What is crazy is that right now, you can pick whatever size font you want in the chat window, and I personally use the smallest, but what we are hearing is that going forward we will only have one size font in the chat window. Insane.
uhm I don't know where you heard that but the fontsize functionality in the chat will just stay as it is.. no need to be spreading rumors here CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:38:00 -
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Aidan Patrick wrote:Tiran'Sol wrote:Thank you for fixing the 0/O issue. Yes, thank you... but now Q/O is a problem with the new font in uppercase. While the new font grows on you slowly... I dislike it because it looks very unrefined. It also looks extremely out of place in areas like the (WARPING) on the velocity bar.
Both these issues have been fixed internally CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.10.06 09:59:00 -
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Sethose Olderon wrote:As a Graphic Designer, and a Type Designer, this font makes my eyes bleed. Please go back and hire a real Type Designer and try again!
I'm pretty sure the graphic designer/type designer who made the font doesn't like some of your work either
Thankfully, not everybody has the same taste in everything, is what I'm trying to say CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.10.06 15:30:00 -
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Kal Vekstras wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:I'm pretty sure the graphic designer/type designer who made the font doesn't like some of your work either Thankfully, not everybody has the same taste in everything, is what I'm trying to say I'm sure that this is true, and of course people's taste's will differ, as the replies on this thread show. Some love the new font, some love the old font. What I'm afraid of is that after having paid a graphic/type designer for this new font, CCP will be reluctant to let that money go to waste, even to the extent of ignoring how many players my oppose the change. Not that opposition should ever be rude, and not that a majority like or dislike it. But if it should come down to as many players disliking the change as liking it, then money will have been spent for no net benefit.
A lot of people hated the old font when that was added too.. and a lot of people liked it.. CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.10.10 13:22:00 -
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Kal Vekstras wrote:Athreya wrote:Rhaegor Stormborn wrote:All of this could be solved, very easily, by making the current font or the new font a choice. Seriously, no one has any reason to complain if both are available I think there are two different versions of GUI (english/deutch, russian) and devs trying to use newer russian for all languages to reduce workload in the future. Otherwise why dont just stay with old font and fix problems in it. Probably not compatible. If this is true, then CCP should point it out. "Using a single font for all language versions would reduce the workload in the future." That may not be a reason everyone likes or accepts, but at least it's a reason. At the moment, the lack of an official reason why we can't have the option to choose between the two fonts is making the entire discussion far more difficult. Lots of people love the old font, and lots of people want the change, so I'll pose the question to CCP again. Why can't we have the option to choose between them? An official answer will go a long way to making this a civil discussion.
I don't know what this person is talking about but it has been stated a few times before (and in the dev blog as well) that the new and old font don't render together so you will not get the option of choosing between the two fonts. sorry, but here is your reason (again:P). CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.10.10 19:36:00 -
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Athena Incursion wrote:Please remove all use of roman numerals in Eve. They just add confusion. Simple numbers will work just fine.
Please don't create a new font. Just license and use a standard font crafted by people who are experts at font development. Eve developer time should be spent on FiS and font pros will do a better job than you
I don't mean any disrespect by these comments, but the prototypes shown so far are weak if not worse than the existing font. A poor rollout of an imperfect font could have a very large negative impact on eve. Does it really make sense do this design in-house? Just use a proven font.
Thank you
I don't know where you got the impression that I, a programmer, designed the font I'm just working on the implementation of it. There was a font designer who made the font.
I've been working on FiS for a long time now (as a part of Team BFF) and yes, a new font is a part of FiS.. CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.10.20 19:47:00 -
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Arin Nailin wrote:I appreciate the fonts getting some love but it still looks like a developer is calling the shots on these fonts. I know you're probably used to the look of these fonts because windows has crap font rendering, but I'm spoiled by mac. Even linux has nicer font rendering. So I have two requests: * Make font size changes global, I like everyone else would like to play eve on a big res. Currently I lower my res before launching even because the fonts are just so small all over the game. * Rock this like I know you can. You have tons of smart people, I know you can do it right, but the current screenshots are not even close to good enough for what I expect from CCP. This does not compare favorably. (fonts as rendered by mac vs fonts on Sisi: http://cl.ly/2y1132021g3Q2v2J3w06) In the meantime, thank you so, so, so much for spending some dollars on this. It's one of those things that makes such a huge difference. We really appreciate it.
This screenshot, isn't it just from the devblog? It was written over a month ago. The font is back on SiSi now so I encourage you to go and try it out there and see what you think. We've come a long way since the devblog was posted
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Posted - 2011.10.24 11:32:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:The font is back on SiSi now so I encourage you to go and try it out there and see what you think. We've come a long way since the devblog was posted Um... you sure because the font on "my" SiSi looks pretty identical with the old font?
when I posted this, my statement was correct CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.10.31 11:24:00 -
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David Xavier wrote:This is getting confusing.. could somebody ( developer or a self proclaimed ninja) make a high resolution screen capture of this elusive new font type with characters of least the English alphabet present ( the more the better ) ?
Would be better to judge that than jumping to conclusions based on unfinished code.
It should be back on SiSi soon CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.10.31 18:44:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:It should be back on SiSi soon Can you confirm UI resize feature? Is it in early development stage or will be delivered in winter expansion?
you'll see soon CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.10.31 23:36:00 -
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Tarra Nobilii wrote:Just wanted to provide my feedback after loading Singularity. The new font seems rather DOS-ish....the old font, as flawed as it may have been, did create a unique game feel. Furthermore, the new font is easier to read..but that could easily be because the font size is clearly larger. On the settings screen, there are some issues as the font remains jumbled amongst the settings and is unreadable.
I strongly support the old font...then again I am Amarr and struggle with change.
there are some new features that are missing labels and therefore are way too long and the text gets jumbled, that should be fixed soon though CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.11.15 20:40:00 -
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Dasani Waters wrote:An issue that might have been brought up already is the fact that hyperlinked text is almost indistinguishable from regular text on SiSi. http://oi43.tinypic.com/mbmonb.jpg
are those links to show an info window on something/someone ? CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.11.16 10:59:00 -
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There was an issue with parsing this post's BBCode CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.11.16 11:30:00 -
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el alasar wrote:Dasani Waters wrote:An issue that might have been brought up already is the fact that hyperlinked text is almost indistinguishable from regular text on SiSi. http://oi43.tinypic.com/mbmonb.jpg indeed. this should be changed!
I forwarded this to the relevant people CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.11.16 14:29:00 -
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Simvastatin Montelukast wrote:Jodis Talvanen wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:90% scaling is more aimed at pilots with low resolution displays and are willing to have less readable text and get instead more space for windows Readability has nothing to do with "more space", a good font will scale correctly and be still readable when very small. I am highly disappointed that instead of at least explaining the technical limits you choosed to blame "more space for windows" just because you are unwilling or unable to tweak the pixels. Also thanks for confirmimg the fact that CCP can never ever produce a good working font. I'm not sure I will be able to play with my laptop with a small-res screen anymore. And the worse thing is that, at the smaller scale, the old font is actually more readable than the new font. At least I can make it into expanded width. But now I cannot. Hint, give her suggestions on how to make things better. (she listens)
We're not really scaling the font when we're scaling - we're scaling the whole UI. You can read more about how it works in my dev blog on UI Scaling. CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.11.16 15:31:00 -
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Salpun wrote:Salpun wrote:new text was
90% scaling is more aimed at pilots with low resolution displays and are willing to have less readable text and get instead more space for windows CCP Punkturis got ganked
If the right click menues where still 100% size 90% would still be readable for all.[/quote]
you can set your context menu font to size 12 (system menu -> general settings), and then scale to 90%:) CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.11.16 21:53:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:Can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have links turned Yellow like they used to be?
It's really hard to identify links when they're just bolded, it's not obvious enough that there is a link there.
There's many reasons that this should be done, but I don't feel I need to emphasize this much more. Ease of use, clarity, visual indications, etc.
There were other people involved in that decision than me, so maybe you can make a special thread about it and I'll forward it to the right people? CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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Posted - 2011.11.17 09:42:00 -
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mkint wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Bloodpetal wrote:Can we PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE have links turned Yellow like they used to be?
It's really hard to identify links when they're just bolded, it's not obvious enough that there is a link there.
There's many reasons that this should be done, but I don't feel I need to emphasize this much more. Ease of use, clarity, visual indications, etc. There were other people involved in that decision than me, so maybe you can make a special thread about it and I'll forward it to the right people? That is a really depressing dev response to that concern. Breaking functionality and blaming it on someone else.
this is the issues thread for the new font, not on the new link styles.. it's more likely to catch attention if it's posted in a relevant thread
(like if you had issues with balancing or something else not related to the font, it wouldn't make sense to raise the issue here) CCP Punkturis | EVE UI Developer |
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