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Mining FriendlyBear
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:42:00 -
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I have been extremely disturbed by all the posts about griefers and lowlifes set to blow up miners ships and cause financial havoc on the industrial community. Does this violate the EULA? How can this kind of action be tolerated when it causes so much financial and emotional stress on the helpless targets?
I am seriously considering if perhaps a class action lawsuit may be in order to keep gameplay fair and balanced as well as prevent real life consequences such as stress and depression from affecting pilots who may be targetted in this unlawful act.
Now is the time for industrialists to stand up and be heard and not be second class citizens.
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Pantload
Gallente
The Underpants Gnomes
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:44:00 -
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/me Grabs the fire extinguisher. I'm expecting flames.
Oh and...in first 
TUG: The Underpants Gnomes.
Buy corporations here
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Tolarnune
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:46:00 -
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If you feel the need to even ask about lawsuits for stuff in a game you need to consider cancelling your subscription. Life goes beyond a game.
If an adverse affect such as depression or stress come to you because of a war against anyone, let alone miners, i believe you should definately cancel your subscription.
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Boner McGee
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:47:00 -
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Allahu Akbar!
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Bel'shamharoth
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:48:00 -
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2/10 - You would have gotten 6/10, but your name was too obvious.
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Mining FriendlyBear
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Posted - 2010.01.06 20:52:00 -
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I have been mining for awhile now and find your insinuation that i am a 2/10 or whatever that means is offensive and reportable. this is a game yes but when it impacts peoples real lives and causes undue stress and anxiety it is time to look at the people who try to bring that to you.
maybe the best solution is like other successful games and make pvp only server and then server for those who are peace loving and wish to build relationships and fun.
shame on those who want to see others suffer.
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Marcus Gideon
Gallente
Federal Defense Operations
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Mining FriendlyBear
...this is a game yes but when it impacts peoples real lives and causes undue stress and anxiety it is time to look at the people who try to bring that to you...
This is a PVP game.
Spaceships shooting other spaceships, is part of that. In fact, it's the point.
If the game is causing you undue stress and anxiety... press Ctrl Q and back away from the keyboard. |
The Crushah
Gallente
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:02:00 -
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Once again someone doesnt get EVE.
EVE is not Hello Kitty online. It is a cold, dark, world where in an instant someone can deprive you of everything you worked years for. CCP intended it this way and it will remain this way. If this makes you unhappy and depressed, then maybe EVE isnt for you.
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Iimlug
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mining FriendlyBear
maybe the best solution is like other successful games and make pvp only server
You are on the PVP only server
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mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:16:00 -
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Obvious troll 
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Taedrin
Gallente
The Green Cross
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mining FriendlyBear
I have been mining for awhile now and find your insinuation that i am a 2/10 or whatever that means is offensive and reportable.
If you don't know what it means, then how can you be offended by it?
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There is always a choice. The choice might not be easy, nor simple, nor the options be what you desire - but, nevertheless, the choice is there to be made. |
Elite Qin
Caldari
The Graduates
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Iimlug
You are on the PVP only server
Best. Quote. Ever.
Also, @OP: Go away
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FunzzeR
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: FunzzeR on 06/01/2010 21:48:53
Originally by: Mining FriendlyBear
I have been extremely disturbed by all the posts about griefers and lowlifes set to blow up miners ships and cause financial havoc on the industrial community. Does this violate the EULA? How can this kind of action be tolerated when it causes so much financial and emotional stress on the helpless targets?
I am seriously considering if perhaps a class action lawsuit may be in order to keep gameplay fair and balanced as well as prevent real life consequences such as stress and depression from affecting pilots who may be targetted in this unlawful act.
Now is the time for industrialists to stand up and be heard and not be second class citizens.
E-Lawyer FTL... 
Your case would be laughed out of every legal court in the world. Only things you would achieve is enrich your lawyer.
EvE was intended as a PVP game, as such events such as the hulkageddon and ganking at large is ok under CCP's EULA. Avoiding getting ganked is entirely in your hands as there are a number of practical solutions that will make you safer.
Honestly why do people come crying to the forums demanding CCP put a stop to it? Its not like I or other pvpers petition and cry on forums saying that our targets are harassing us by not staying still so we can gank them eh? No we use the game mechanics available to us to achieve our goals. I imagine that is a rather novel idea for miners to grasp.
PRAISE THE SCOTTISH FOLD!!
THEIR WILL SHALL BE DONE!! |
sir gankalot
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:51:00 -
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Yes, my legal fee is 350 million isk per case, no cure no pay, have to pay up front though. Contact me in game.
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Tau Cabalander
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.01.06 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mining FriendlyBear
I have been mining for awhile now and find your insinuation that i am a 2/10 or whatever that means is offensive and reportable.
In the off chance you aren't trolling (otherwise 10/10 for getting me to respond):
*/10 = Judges score, in this case judging the obviousness of the post being a troll. Negative scores are even worse (more obvious). Perfect 10/10 troll posts are not at all obvious.
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Tina Rufemup
Death of Virtue
MeatSausage EXPRESS
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Posted - 2010.01.06 22:03:00 -
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If you want your own carebear server please buy Everquest and enjoy. I don't even think you could even handle WoW. Due to all the PvP in that game. This is a game for strong willed, not the weak minded.
Life is a waste of time
Time is a waste of life
So get wasted all the time
And have the time of your life....
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Mining FriendlyBear
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Posted - 2010.01.06 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Tau Cabalander
Originally by: Mining FriendlyBear
I have been mining for awhile now and find your insinuation that i am a 2/10 or whatever that means is offensive and reportable.
In the off chance you aren't trolling (otherwise 10/10 for getting me to respond):
*/10 = Judges score, in this case judging the obviousness of the post being a troll. Negative scores are even worse (more obvious). Perfect 10/10 troll posts are not at all obvious.
this is pure nonsense about trolls. the real "trolls" are people who enjoy ruining other people lives and causing them to lose all their time and investment in game. what kind of society is this where the goal is to cause people extreme suffering and possible psychiatric problems from their experience??
eve has many fun for the industrialist and builder of social economies but why it has to be ruined in just 10 minutes by obvious sociopaths?
i cannot do anything to stop this but something has to be done and the community needs to join together or the sociopaths and greifers will have ruined us.
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Krans Hopeson
Hypercube Ventures
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Posted - 2010.01.06 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mining FriendlyBear
Originally by: Tau Cabalander
In the off chance you aren't trolling (otherwise 10/10 for getting me to respond):
*/10 = Judges score, in this case judging the obviousness of the post being a troll. Negative scores are even worse (more obvious). Perfect 10/10 troll posts are not at all obvious.
this is pure nonsense about trolls. the real "trolls" are people who enjoy ruining other people lives and causing them to lose all their time and investment in game.
No, that's called 'griefing' and the people who do it are called 'griefers'. Just FYI.
Also, 4/10 from the South-East Yugoslavian judge. 
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Lanais Suleia
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: mechtech
Obvious troll
^^ this. Looks liek enough idiots are biting though.
Seriously people, trolls are like spammers. Don't respond, and eventually they'll go away. you have to ALL stop responding though! |
Kitimortoa
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:14:00 -
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lawl
obvious troll is...
...obvious...
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FireT
Gallente
As Far As The eYe can see
Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Mining FriendlyBear
I have been mining for awhile now and find your insinuation that i am a 2/10 or whatever that means is offensive and reportable. this is a game yes but when it impacts peoples real lives and causes undue stress and anxiety it is time to look at the people who try to bring that to you.
maybe the best solution is like other successful games and make pvp only server and then server for those who are peace loving and wish to build relationships and fun.
shame on those who want to see others suffer.
So is someone in REAL LIFE putting a gun to your head or that of your family? Are they requiring you to mine a certain amount each hour / day / week?
If neither question is no, you are a -1 / 10 in intelligence and humor posting since you could just NOT mine for a while. Enjoy real life and other Eve things.
I myself just finished painting a bit. 
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Kitimortoa
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: FireT
So is someone in REAL LIFE putting a gun to your head or that of your family? Are they requiring you to mine a certain amount each hour / day / week?
If you live in China, yes.
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Kaylee Juuna
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Gideon
This is a PVP game.
I've never heard a more idiotic statement in my life.
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Mad Constructor
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:41:00 -
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I don't think you understand EvE at all. Hulkageddon is a boost to the industrial community. When someone ganks a mining ship with a BS or several smaller ships, and all those ships, and about half the modules need to be replaced. And guess who benefits from replacing them...
If you still can't understand how ship destruction is needed on a scale that only PvP can provide, then you will never come close to understanding the EvE economy at all.
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Zorana Lionheart
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Posted - 2010.01.06 23:44:00 -
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When you quit can I have your stuff? Wait do I have to send you money first then you will 10x it and send it back?
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Hulkageddon Insurance
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2010.01.07 00:06:00 -
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If you are so concerned about losing your mining ship, might I suggest checking out the official Hulkageddon insurance? Buying this insurance will make sure that if you do lose a ship to Hulkageddon, you get reimbursed and are able to replace it quickly, limiting any inconvenience. The link to the only official insurance is provided below in my signature, and reproduced here for your benefit.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1246349
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The only OFFICIAL provider of Hulkageddon insurance.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1246349 |
Yahrr
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.01.07 00:28:00 -
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Edited by: Yahrr on 07/01/2010 00:30:56
Originally by: Mining FriendlyBear
make pvp only server and then server for those who are peace loving and wish to build relationships and fun.
Which leads to:
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You can mine in peace but are unable to sell anything as no one ever dies.
Ammo might still be needed, but everyone is building ammo already, so the margins are near zero.
Isk has no value at all on this server.
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Everyone is killing each other left and right. Concord is disabled as there is no need for it anymore.
Ship and ammo prices are extremely high. 20 mil for a T1 frigate because there are only five people building them.
Industry is the profession with the least competition and producers earn billions each day.
Isk is gold, pure gold.
Result:
The carebears hear about the value of isk on the pvp server and switches back, risking life with no concord at all. More carebears follow and the carebear server slowly dies. EvE goes back to normal.
A year later this thread is reopened thanks to the announcement of Hulkageddon 2012.
If you just switch to a Covetor during Hulkageddon you don't risk that much, even when you're afk mining. In fact, you will see that Hulkageddon gives you an advantage as your competition is wiped out.
/me doesn't care about who's a troll and who isn't.
[Ninja edit: Use that insurance offer! Do it! Now!]
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Riethe
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Posted - 2010.01.07 02:00:00 -
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This is completely ridiculous.
Mining is something that often takes place in high security space, which is meant to safe. If I choose to mine in a safe place, that's exactly what it should be--safe.
CCP has given plenty of room for PVPers to roam in less secure places to get their fix for PVP. I leave these people alone, and they should leave me and my friends alone, too.
If CCP wanted PVP in safe space, there would be no CONCORD. As far as I am concerned, this is harassment, and CCP will put an end to it.
Unbelievable.
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Mara Tessidar
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Posted - 2010.01.07 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Riethe
This is completely ridiculous.
Mining is something that often takes place in high security space, which is meant to safe. If I choose to mine in a safe place, that's exactly what it should be--safe.
CCP has given plenty of room for PVPers to roam in less secure places to get their fix for PVP. I leave these people alone, and they should leave me and my friends alone, too.
If CCP wanted PVP in safe space, there would be no CONCORD. As far as I am concerned, this is harassment, and CCP will put an end to it.
Unbelievable.
الجهاد سربسرب
ALLAH AKBAR!Ö
"Safe", not "Invulnerable". Note the difference.
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Argat Bogotsch
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Posted - 2010.01.07 02:05:00 -
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successful troll is successful
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