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Raimo
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Posted - 2010.01.07 17:35:00 -
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[Crusader, Raimo's Crusader]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Gistii B-Type 1MN MicroWarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Dual Light Pulse Laser II,Scorch S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II,Scorch S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II,Scorch S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II,Scorch S
Small Energy Collision Accelerator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator II
I have nearly 400 kills with this or a similar Sader fit, a lot of them solo, often outnumbered - and I've said it before :P
That being said, these days I feel it's a bit meh with all the new faction frigs about, minny boost and all... Also, I run mostly in 0.0 ATM, most of said kills were in empire in a HG snake clone which *definitely* helps with the inherent troubles of rolling with a 15km optimal kiter with no tank... Tracking on it is godlike though. Without snakes you could try switching one Nano to OD and/ or dropping the collision rig for an aux thruster (T2 preferably ;) )
If you don't want to pony for T2 locus I highly recommend going 2x T1 Locus even with the 2 TE's, lows then 1x nano+1 OD (or 2 OD's but agility is the lifeblood of this fit TBH).
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Raimo
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Posted - 2010.01.07 17:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Ammy Azimuth
Do you just use keep at range with 15km? Or do you manually fly going that freaking fast? Cause thats serious twitch game play.
The tracking is good enough for hitting frig hulls in a straight 15k orbit (or an orbit that lands me at around 15 most of the time), the flying for me is a combination of said orbit, keep at range at 14,7k and lots of manual corrections but mostly to avoid drifting in to my target's gangmembers scram range if the target is slow and/or to hold on for dear life if it's, say, a Ranis or Claw.
Many people will tell you that a competent Ranis pilot will land a scram on me and while it is indeed very much possible I've found out even without snakes that starting the fight with overloaded MWD and a wider orbit (I usually use the preset 15km orbit for this) lets me land some hits when they try to catch me to soften them a bit, then deoverheat my MWD and go to the normal fighting range risking a scram, I've usually managed to make enough damage to let me finish them before they finish me even if they did land said scram (which is not always btw) :P
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Raimo
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Posted - 2010.01.07 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Ammy Azimuth
Edited by: Ammy Azimuth on 07/01/2010 17:59:49
So the orbit break trick doesn't work as well as advertised by ranis pilots?
Wouldn't keep at range be more useful as it won't be prone to that trick or does the constant acceleration and slow downing make you more succeptible to getting caught?
Btw, whats the need for the deadspace mwd? Only difference is sig radius bloom is less than normal. Does that make that big a difference?
It often works, but the tactic I described makes it a lot harder and can postpone it. 
Keep at range reacts way too slow tbh, and if you're fast you can manually correct your orbit (taking advantage of the speed/ inertia you already have) to counter their move when you spot it anyway.
Gisti MWD is only for Cap reasons and essential at that, without it the Sader caps out way too soon for even attempting a kill of any Cruiser, tanky AF or failfit BC.
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Posted - 2010.01.07 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Raimo on 07/01/2010 18:49:04
Originally by: Ammy Azimuth
Oh and the 15km optimal keeps you out of neut range right? And wow taking out battlecruisers in a crusader? Didn't know you could take stuff out that large.
How's your experience with a crow?
Med neut range yes. A good neut Domi pilot will murder you though. Yeah "buffer" tanked /notanked/ tripletanked/ noobfitted BCs (Even BS I guess) without friends far enough from a gate or station (lol) and small frig gangs are killable :P
Never flown a crow myself, pre speed nerf it was nice AFAIK but lately it has just always been an "easy kill" for me in most frig hulls I fly. (If I can catch 'em that is  )
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Raimo
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Posted - 2010.01.07 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ammy Azimuth
What do you think?
Yep, I've met uncatchable crows though the HG set + surprise overheat has helped nail some that 1st seemed like ones. But a smart nanocrow can indeed flee, otoh it is in my humble opinion quite awful at least solo. (Tho with the "never flew one" disclaimer) Though in packs they can be somewhat effective (read very annoying) against slower targets, I'll grant you that.
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Raimo
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Posted - 2010.01.07 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ammy Azimuth
How often have you died to those uncatchable crow? Or can you escape easily with an overheated mwd?
1v1 I'd say never, ones in gangs with scrams have helped down me I'm sure... But most nanocrows don't have scrams so it's just a case of breaking their point (inverse of what the ranis pilots do, overheated MWD usually is enough tho) and warping off... Tho I usually prefer to kill them with the overheated approach option ;)
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Posted - 2010.01.08 07:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ammy Azimuth
Edited by: Ammy Azimuth on 07/01/2010 23:38:03
Can't that be said about your warp disruptor crusader fit? They could break out of your warp disruptor as well. Or is it just cause crow's damage is so slow and consistent people know when to get out easier compared to your crusader?
And btw, thanks for all this useful info raimo.
NP, I'm somewhat "over" my nanosader craze atm so I don't mind talking about it... 
Oh, the tactic against crows is "approach", with overheated MWD if they seem fast/ good, so I end up on top of them giving me more time to shooty if they're trying to burn off. Switch to Fac MF when sub 5k if needed/ you have the time, the fits like the one posted above this post will usually melt faster that they can react with their MWD overload getaway. Of course they do stand a high chance of GTFO if they're awake and decent though...
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Posted - 2010.01.09 00:30:00 -
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Makes sense Yani, a good writeup. Tho IMO a Ranis and even the Nanosader can also kill most of your target selection while also posing a good threat to most other ceptors. Though both (especially the Ranis) are more vulnerable to small gangs ofc.
That being said these days it's all about the faction frigates ;)
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Posted - 2010.01.09 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ammy Azimuth
Originally by: Raimo
That being said these days it's all about the faction frigates ;)
You talking about the dramiel and slicer? Aren't worried about sig bloom though?
Also Comet and Daredevil, though I'm with the Dramiel fanboy crowd right now... With the Dramiel the sig bloom is mostly irrelevant, not sure about the Slicer as I haven't actually had time to fly it that much (despite it being pretty much my Sader on stereoids, I've mostly opted for the close range boats and fits now)
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Posted - 2010.01.09 11:54:00 -
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My Dramiel, Slicer and Daredevil (at least the faction web fit :p) would easily kill my nano-Sader, not sure about the Comet as it's that close to a Ranis in performance (but better), and all of them would kill my Ranis. And they all (including the Sader and Ranis) kill nearly all other ceptors and T1 Frigs and many T2 frigs (and many cruisers).
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Posted - 2010.01.10 06:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ammy Azimuth
Can you think of any tactics that would be able to beat a faction ship?
There are always counter fits and counter tactics... That being said the new buffed faction frigs are suprinsingly nice, they indeed obsolete ceptors and AFs a bit but IMHO the pricetag compensates it quite well, and for specialized roles like gang tackling the pure ceptors are still better (suitable bonuses and *much* more cost effective in a suicidal role).
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