It's one thing to play in the sandbox.

It's another to let the kids run around and stab each other with scissors.

Someone is going to lose an eye eventually.

Hey tho; nice to know that if you find an exploit and massively get rich off it then ppl expose what you did you wont get in trouble. Really provides us with a reason to put in those bug reports huh?

blowing up your own assets for monetary gain has a precedent of not being an exploit, see self destructing ships for insurance profits a while back. and no, I don't have any direct monetary connection to FW.


they both entered the sand box of their own free will. whatever happens happens! deal with it!

Exploit is still an exploit, it only makes the punishment slightly lighter. Its only lighter because the culprits told devs themselves beforehand. Bans would be flying left and right if they didn't.

It wouldn't be such a massive exploit if people didn't look into loopholes on purpose because of boredom.
CCP didn't think it anyone could pull it off(you need large amount of coordination and isk tbh), but now they know that its possible(at least for goons, the people who play Loophole Online). Not surprising if they will now put "safeguards" in place so such easy "isk printing" can not be possible.

^Probably too busy filing and escalating petitions saying "i wasn't aware of dis!1!!1!" and "unfreeze mah isk plz or i unsub my 10 accounts"

Meh... I've been here long enough to have an idea of what the CSM & CCP are going to do. What I want to know is what Sony is going to do. That's a little more difficult to predict since we don't really know the finals details on how much control can EVE Trillionaires will have over Dust players. Any theories?

Meh... I've been here long enough to have an idea of what the CSM & CCP are going to do. What I want to know is what Sony is going to do. That's a little more difficult to predict since we don't really know the finals details on how much control can EVE Trillionaires will have over Dust players. Any theories?

What are the CSM and CCP trying to do then?

Probably use hollow shells filled with isk instead of dangerous materials for orbital strikes, if things get bad enough(on the oh so cold and harsh "grief") side then we'll have npc bots firin' off orbital strikes when dust guys command them to.

Probably use hollow shells filled with isk instead of dangerous materials for orbital strikes, if things get bad enough(on the oh so cold and harsh "grief") side then we'll have npc bots firin' off orbital strikes when dust guys command them to.

Coming up with a masterplan of not pissing off too many and pleasing as many as they can ofcourse!



probably will fail though.......gosh,why am i so bitter these days.

B-b-bots???

Agreed again. The same ole Generic Marriage Counselor procedure... ignore who is right, ignore who is wrong, declare a theoretical happy medium, ?????, profit.

Coming up with a masterplan of not pissing off too many and pleasing as many as they can ofcourse!



probably will fail though.......gosh,why am i so bitter these days.

Im on the fence with this one, ill just watch and see how it plays out.


On topic.... lol CSM speaking for us

Hm, with a big Mission Accomplished banner?

In a sense, i can almost see CCP writing a "big sorry, we didn't test it enough" letter and then mittens takes the heat off by rambling about something(and maybe even stating that he wanted to test the limit of the sandbox for the our greater good or something) irrelevant in the interview and ccp points to it to get some "this is a big sandbox" publicity to attract new, gullible potential players.

The next trailer will probably be about some large alliance manipulating market or something....."I was there and I profited, eve is real".

they still proceeded to do it knowing it was the lack of testing/listening on ccp's side.

Well it is well known that when you try to make everyone happy you fail. They should just throw their weight behind Goons, deal with the sub losses and go back to HTFU land

It would be hilarious however if they DID THAT and then Goons left.

CCP has every right to ban or reverse these transactions, ban the partcipants etc.. If the purpose was to test the game design, they could have done it on the test server. The purpose was obviously to gain an unfair advantage, to profit disproportionately from the design error.

I reckon, since CCP does so little listening and testing, it's serves them right.

I appreciate what they did, and will be looking for future opportunities to game the system now that I know the upside.

I really don't have any problem with this, but as was said in the OP, CCP stated that no rule was really broken here. If no rule was broken, and they acknowledge that something like this is typical of Eve players, why are the people involved having assets taken away?

All we really want is consistency.

Having GD scream at you, or all your assets being frozen for investigation?

CCP Screwed up on this one. The writing was on the wall about the mechanic becoming a potential exploit and CCP ignored it.

They ask for feedback.

They ask for bug reports.

They ignored us. They did it with the unified inventory as well.

CCP knows best, always. It continually bites them in the ass. However, now that someone has used one of their cockups to an advantage, they're probably going to take it out on the player instead of owning up to being the responsible ones. It's CCP, I don't see them admitting blame for their mistake. The Goon pilots who participated in this will most likely be the ones being punished when the developers who didn't catch this and the community team who didn't communicate this are the real people at fault.