Latest blog I found out was this one which tries to proof that even a new char can make 350M in a 10 days or so...I don't know is that true or not if you really running solo and without start money for a gear and skills
http://explorationalmanac.blogspot.com/2010/07/day-11-next-goal-achived-some-isk-made.html

So my question is: Is exploration worth of time to spend for a new char in hi-sec space if you most likely run without helpers (alts or real players)?

I know it is luck based and sometimes you get lucky and sometimes not but after some research on forums and internet it seems it is nowdays either nerfed OR it is so popular that it is hard to find even sites to explore.

And if we talking about ISK/hour I want to give you some perspective.

Thanks everyone! Keep posting for ideas/comments though.

Any suggestions for ships and fits for newbie (Gallente/Caldari) for this career? For scanning I'll use Imicus for now and I'll have Osprey because of my mining career and collected this kind of fitting for exploring and for mining missions allready. Is it enough for lower level sites?


[Osprey, Mission Fighter]

Shield Power Relay II
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System I

Medium Capacitor Battery II
Small Shield Booster I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Small Nosferatu II
Small Remote Armor Repair System I
'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile
'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I

Valkyrie I x1
Warrior I x1
Warrior I x1

Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Medium Shield Booster II
Codebreaker I
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
10MN Afterburner II

'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I
'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I
'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I
'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I
Core Probe Launcher I

Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Medium Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I

Can new toon ( single account ) survive and make enough nowdays?

Should I rewrite the blog now and test it?

It would be nice to know indeed. Start with a fresh toon less than 1M ISK, no corp support, no alts. Also would like to know how many hours spent during test for playing. Test period could be for example five to ten days. You have to gather your equipments and skill books from open market.

It would be great to know what can be done with real life skills and knowledge.

It would be a great asset to the exploration community hearing from a true new player with all of those limitations rather than an older player emulating it (not that that wouldn't be helpful, but having a truly new player do it would provide an extremely different perspective).

You're a new enough player and I'm sure you could fit those parameters.

Why don't you do it? It would be a great asset to the exploration community hearing from a true new player with all of those limitations rather than an older player emulating it (not that that wouldn't be helpful, but having a truly new player do it would provide an extremely different perspective).

NOS is useless.
Remote armor rep? Is that for drones? Useless. You are in high sec, dock and use station rep shop to repair drones.

Hmm..not a bad idea. I'll think about that.

I'll anyway going to give a try for exploring so I could documented that also for awhile. Exploring was one of my initial career plans along with mining when started this game.



Okay. It was just an idea that NOS could help with cap but that idea was not tested yet. Remote armour rep was for drones yes. I thought I could repair those during the fight by calling them back and send back to the fight after repair. It was just a theory and not tested yet.

I think my base setup what I currently own is something like this. Small changes can be done based a sites I'll going to do...if I find something.

Setup with my current skills gives effective hp 17 881 and total dps 53,5 according EFT.

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[Osprey]
Shield Power Relay II
Damage Control II
Ballistic Control System II

Analyzer I
Small Shield Booster I
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Small Remote Armor Repair System I
Salvager I
'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile
'Malkuth' Assault Missile Launcher I, Sabretooth Light Missile

Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I
Medium Core Defence Field Purger I


Valkyrie I x1
Warrior I x1
Warrior I x1

You need a Codebreaker module for Radar sites :)

Managed to grab 15m of loot from 3 of the 5 cans at the radar before a cheetah appeared on grid and grabbed the remaining 2 cans contents...

That is what is known as a **** move. I don't know about the rest of you, but if I find someone in a site already I have the decency to o7 and move on.

I decided to start exploration with my main 2 weeks ago. My skills are not brilliant for scanning but i manage ok for now, managed to scan down multiple combat sites - although they all (upto now) have been really poor sites with only frigs, 1 mag site and a single radar site.

That is what is known as a **** move. I don't know about the rest of you, but if I find someone in a site already I have the decency to o7 and move on.

Edit: Also 5nite please do another project if you have the motivation. I thought about doing a small video for youtube myself on the same subject until i tried it frapsing and realised that even with crap settings my computer can barely andle 2 things at the same time.

Edit: Also 5nite please do another project if you have the motivation. I thought about doing a small video for youtube myself on the same subject until i tried it frapsing and realised that even with crap settings my computer can barely andle 2 things at the same time.

I am not sure if rewriting hi sec exploration blog is my top priority atm.

I am planning my next little project to answer the one of most common question: how much you can make in low sec. I mean, is it worth to go there, risk your ship and pod? Risk/Profit in low sec was the question floating around for awhile.

If you don't have them already, sister core scanner probes.

seriously. +10% on scan strength for nothing but money/LP+money is nothing to sneeze at. And your standing with the SOE should be ok if you ran through the first Epic Arc.

Fit rigs to your new ship (I have an Anathema) and a sisters launcher and probes and the difference in your speed and ability to scan is staggering compared to your old starter exploration ship and gear. It turns it into a fun and fairly profitable endeavor.

I allready started to write a blog about this issue my point of view and my real life skills I have (or lack) for EVE. It will be more of a diary than a guide but maybe someone find something usefull there.

bad fits, i don't know why you keep going with them even though people already told you they're awful

bad fits, i don't know why you keep going with them even though people already told you they're awful

[Cormorant, New Setup 3]
Shield Power Relay II

Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
Medium Shield Extender II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Codebreaker I

75mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge S
75mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge S
75mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge S
75mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge S
75mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge S
75mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge S
75mm Prototype I Gauss Gun, Antimatter Charge S
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Small Core Defence Field Purger I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I
Small Core Defence Field Purger I

[Caracal, New Setup 5]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Y-S8 Hydrocarbon I Afterburners
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Non-Inertial Ballistic Screen Augmentation I
Codebreaker I

SV-2000 Assault Missile Bay, Bloodclaw Light Missile
SV-2000 Assault Missile Bay, Bloodclaw Light Missile
SV-2000 Assault Missile Bay, Bloodclaw Light Missile
SV-2000 Assault Missile Bay, Bloodclaw Light Missile
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Hornet I x2

you already got the caracal fitting posted here, why aren't you using that

a scanning frigate is an overkill with your skills

4 light drones make more dps than 1medium+2 on paper and in game

caracal's not bad, but get some support skills in missiles

What you suggest?

don't mix active and passive tank in pve, also don't mix shield tank with armor tank

but why would you use explosive and em drones at the same time

I missed a memo for this. Why this is bad?

Passive shield tanks have the highest regen rates when shields are already down (40-60%). So, your ship maybe 2/3's in shields but this makes your passive tank even stronger because shield regen is at its optimal comfort zone.

Mixing this with an active tank that boost shield back to 100% would limit the PT efficiency.

Check the Uni wiki for more information about fitting strategies for shields.
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Shield_Tanking#Fitting_Strategy

Active and passive tanking are two different tanking methods that not go well together.
The problem is that active and passive tanking modules are both mid slot equipment but you need a max number of slots to optimize one ot the tank types.
Doing only one very good is better than mixing up both to get a mediocre result.

Active tank uses cap to boost the shield regen and to repair the incoming damage
Here the size of shield is not as important as how quickly you can regen shield damage.
You use shield boosters and cap regen modules.
Mostly done for small ships with small shields: frigates, cruisers

A passive tank uses very large shields in the first place and uses the normal shield regen rate of the ship to replenish it.
Here shield szize matters and you use shield extenders to prop it up even further.
You also use shield hardeners and resist modules to reduce incoming damage as far as possible.
Mostly done with larger ships that have large shields in the first place: BC's and BS's

Passive shield tanks have the highest regen rates when shields are already down (40-60%). So, your ship maybe 2/3's in shields but this makes your passive tank even stronger because shield regen is at its optimal comfort zone.

Mixing this with an active tank that boost shield back to 100% would limit the PT efficiency.

Check the Uni wiki for more information about fitting strategies for shields.
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Shield_Tanking#Fitting_Strategy

I am curious how did you manage to find any specific sites? I have been flying for the past 2 evenings and all I see is anomalies a. When I scan them down, I get all wormholes. I probably went through 35-40 systems in caldari and amar space.

Could it because my sensor strength is only 63 with sister core probes?

So I'm not looking for a billions or even 10M per a run.

it also sounds like you're continuing to use the imicus for the explo sites you're finding. i'd recommend looking back through the posts and rechecking some of the other ships posted. specifically the destroyers.

[quote=Sam Redshift]

holy **** man, are you trolling him or what
... snip ...
that's so much misinformation saying that BS are passive shield tankers, seriously wtf

it sounds like you're having some fun out there, which is great.

it also sounds like you're continuing to use the imicus for the explo sites you're finding. i'd recommend looking back through the posts and rechecking some of the other ships posted. specifically the destroyers.

for a while there while still a low skilled and unknowing pilot i found that a thrasher worked quite well at clearing rats quickly and still allowing for reasonable scanning. including a variety of areas in low sec where a simple thrasher is often times overlooked (but not always ;p ) by many pirates. just remember to clean out the hold every once in a while to avoid having too much in cargo if you are jumped. also, always scan from a 'safe' spot, either a bookmark made between several planets or a customs office from a distance that you then boogie away from at top speed while scanning.

[Thrasher, New Setup 3]
Small Automated I Carapace Restoration
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

Analyzer I
Codebreaker I
Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters

Salvager I
Core Probe Launcher I, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I
250mm Light Gallium I Cannon, Proton S 23 (optimal)+8.8(falloff)
250mm Light Gallium I Cannon, EMP S 7.3+8.8
250mm Light Gallium I Cannon, EMP S
250mm Light Gallium I Cannon, EMP S
250mm Light Gallium I Cannon, EMP S
250mm Light Gallium I Cannon, EMP S

Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
[empty rig slot]

between proton and emp/phased plasma rounds it covers a wide degree of ranges, typically well outside what the rats will be able to hit you from. it's quite cheap, and losing it won't break the bank.

best of luck.

Finally find something.

First contact

Why don't you do it? It would be a great asset to the exploration community hearing from a true new player with all of those limitations rather than an older player emulating it (not that that wouldn't be helpful, but having a truly new player do it would provide an extremely different perspective).

I don't know about other explorers but I would advise you to limit yourself to four probes in a diamond formation (I use 4 and set them up on the same plane having all arrow heads touching on the signature), then scale them using shift+click and move them closer in (or out) using alt+drag.

Long time ago I have written wiki page about high sec exploration:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/High_sec_exploration_(advanced)

it is not for begginers but once you get hang of it it should help you improve earnings. I do exploration since I started playing EVE, well 2 months later cause I had to learn skills (old scan system). I easily earn 2-3 billion in a month depending on luck/time invested which is really good for high sec. You have to take into account that I know all tricks so that is why my earnings are good. I also invest billions into it. I tried to share most of my tricks of trade in that page in order to help people out. Hope it helps you too.

Have fun and be persistent

Well written and helpful for new explorers.

I don't know about other explorers but I would advise you to limit yourself to four probes in a diamond formation (I use 4 and set them up on the same plane having all arrow heads touching on the signature), then scale them using shift+click and move them closer in (or out) using alt+drag.