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Zee driller	Posted - 2010.01.10 16:19:00 - [1] As a true carebeer I demand that concord have shorter responsetime, or have a couple of ships at every belt so we peaceful miners can have our hulks in peace and quiet. Let people pew in lowsec and 0.0. But keep highsec safe!
Nika Dekaia	Posted - 2010.01.10 16:21:00 - [2] Pretty sad try at trolling. 0/10
Major Kaboom	Posted - 2010.01.10 16:25:00 - [3] Well I lost my expensive hulk while eating dinner yesterday... Cant say I would have been able to escape anyway. The last time they bumped me so I couldnt align and then 6 catas locked me and popped me. It's not fair play!
NyteTyger Gallente NiteSun Enterprises	Posted - 2010.01.10 16:27:00 - [4] Originally by: Nika Dekaia Pretty sad try at trolling. 0/10 __________________________________________ It's a do or die universe, so you better damn well choose between one or the other.
Junko Togawa Caldari	Posted - 2010.01.10 16:58:00 - [5] Confirming that bumping a ship should provoke an immediate and fatal CONCORD response. Also confirming places like Jita would then become Wreckageddon.
Minmatar Citizen 125632 Minmatar Exiles of Bloodfin	Posted - 2010.01.10 17:36:00 - [6] Originally by: Major Kaboom they bumped me consider that foreplay
bernard mckrill Caldari The Python Cartel.	Posted - 2010.01.10 18:00:00 - [7] Originally by: Nika Dekaia Pretty sad try at trolling. 0/10 http://mckrills-tales.blogspot.com/ check out my blog, you'll like it
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.01.10 21:02:00 - [8] If they would just remove the locks on NPC corps fleeting then we can hunt the greifers happily,would be fun to hunt the idiots down with 100 man blobs an keep killing them everything they leave station.... strange seems that's happening to others now.... The irony.
Asuri Kinnes The Bastards The Bastards.	Posted - 2010.01.10 21:36:00 - [9] Edited by: Asuri Kinnes on 10/01/2010 21:36:16 Originally by: Zill If they would just remove the locks on NPC corps fleeting then we can hunt the greifers happily,would be fun to hunt the idiots down with 100 man blobs an keep killing them everything they leave station.... strange seems that's happening to others now.... The irony. ummmmm, hate to break it to you Einstein - you can already hunt -10's. You can even fleet up with people in NPC corps - because -10's can be attacked by anyone... So the majority of people who are engaging in Hulkageddon are huntable Even by you...
Java Hun Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.	Posted - 2010.01.10 21:36:00 - [10] Originally by: Zill If they would just remove the locks on NPC corps fleeting then we can hunt the greifers happily Why not take all the people in npc corps who want to fleet together and hunt the griefers make a corp. Then we don't have to hear you whine.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.01.10 21:39:00 - [11] this troll -9000/10 --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.01.10 21:40:00 - [12] I find it funny how I am complaining yet you lot are jsut "making it real brah" too funny.Nothing I have stated is wrong at all, an every suggestion I made in fixing the system still allows you lot to gank your hearts out, but you an I both know you don't like it because it means YOU would have to loose something as well. That is what bugs you. As to the -10's not all thew gankers are -10 only a minority of them.
Java Hun Rockey Mountain Lumber Co.	Posted - 2010.01.10 21:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Zill I find it funny how I am complaining yet you lot are jsut "making it real brah" too funny.Nothing I have stated is wrong at all, an every suggestion I made in fixing the system still allows you lot to gank your hearts out, but you an I both know you don't like it because it means YOU would have to loose something as well. That is what bugs you. As to the -10's not all thew gankers are -10 only a minority of them. I think your just mad because you think NPC corps should be perfectly safe. Yeah, you can't get war deced. But you can still get ganked, and your just butt hurt about it. Get over it.
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.01.10 21:51:00 - [14] I am not remotely mad, this is nothing but a mindless computer game, there is nothing to get mad about.
Vernn Miller Volition Cult	Posted - 2010.01.10 22:00:00 - [15] Originally by: Zill I am not remotely mad, this is nothing but a mindless computer game, there is nothing to get mad about. But you sure do sound buttsore . ------------------------------When in doubt... drink that last beer and GTFO!
Zill The Scope	Posted - 2010.01.10 22:16:00 - [16] not at all, jsut pointing out the obvious flaws in a system. Nothing more
Borun Tal Minmatar	Posted - 2010.01.11 00:18:00 - [17] Originally by: Zee driller As a true carebeer I demand that concord have shorter responsetime, or have a couple of ships at every belt so we peaceful miners can have our hulks in peace and quiet. Let people pew in lowsec and 0.0. But keep highsec safe! It's probably been noted already (I haven't read the entire thread yet), but CONCORD is not here to protect you. It's here to punish the wrong do'er... Understand that and you might start to understand the game.
Lithalnas Amarr Warsmiths Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.11 00:21:00 - [18] Zill please just stop talking, you have posted in every hulkageddon thread there is. Just make your own thread and leave others alone. And join an alliance so I can shoot you for your insolence. -------------
dpidcoe Gallente Whiskey Hungover	Posted - 2010.01.11 00:48:00 - [19] Originally by: Zill If they would just remove the locks on NPC corps fleeting then we can hunt the greifers happily,would be fun to hunt the idiots down with 100 man blobs an keep killing them everything they leave station.... I'm a griefer and have suicide ganked many many ships. I've also done just about everything "bad" that there is to do in this game. I'm also in a player corp. I've yet to have been wardecced in retaliation or see a 100 man blob (or even a 1 man blob) station camp me and kill me everytime I leave station. If you'd like to get a 100 man blob to come after me, you're welcome to it. I promise I won't jump to an NPC corp like most of the people I've wardeced have done. -----------------------------------------
Zee driller	Posted - 2010.01.11 10:46:00 - [20] Originally by: Lithalnas Zill please just stop talking, you have posted in every hulkageddon thread there is. Just make your own thread and leave others alone. And join an alliance so I can shoot you for your insolence. Zill FTW! We need more like Zill
Bryan Xon NPC Miners League	Posted - 2010.01.11 15:41:00 - [21] Originally by: Zee driller Zill FTW! We need more like Zill As a fellow carebear and part-time griefer/ninja, I have to disagree. There are more than enough spineless whiners crying about their internet pixels on the forums. I really don't think we need more. There is no such thing as overkill. There is only "open fire", and "reload".
Leocadminone	Posted - 2010.01.12 00:30:00 - [22] > CONCORD is not here to protect you. It's here to punish the wrong do'er... And they do a crap job of that. No penalty for stealing from someone's jetcan, for example, is a BLATANT line of bogus BS. I'm not saying suicide ganks should be made impossible - but the current risk vs. reward for them is way out of kilter, as most suicide ships cost you NOTHING to lose with the current insurance setup (insurance does NOT pay off for criminal activities as a general rule In Real Life), and the "sec status" penalties are very easily evaded by criminals (or you'd never see red flagged folks at Jita EVER - that's mighty far into very "high sec" space). There was a dev post over a year ago saying that the situation where insurance is paid out on CONCORD kills would be changed "soon" - make that change would help a little, though it wouldn't noticeably effect suicide DD packs. It WOULD make suicide Battleship/Battlecruisers a lot more rare, and would probably reduce suicide Cruiser attempts some. Make it so that if you have bad security status you get shot at PERIOD. No more immunity for criminals flying around in pods and the like. These two changes would noticeably improve (though not entirely CURE) the current risk vs. reward ratio on suicide ganking. Reducing concord response time further would not have much effect - most suicide gankers plan their ships around getting ONE alpha strike off and little-to-nothing else. Reduced concord response time would just change that to ALL suicide gankers planning their ship around max alpha, and might make it needfull to have 1 or 2 more DDs per gank squad at best.
Zee driller	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:17:00 - [23] Originally by: Leocadminone > CONCORD is not here to protect you. It's here to punish the wrong do'er... And they do a crap job of that. No penalty for stealing from someone's jetcan, for example, is a BLATANT line of bogus BS. I'm not saying suicide ganks should be made impossible - but the current risk vs. reward for them is way out of kilter, as most suicide ships cost you NOTHING to lose with the current insurance setup (insurance does NOT pay off for criminal activities as a general rule In Real Life), and the "sec status" penalties are very easily evaded by criminals (or you'd never see red flagged folks at Jita EVER - that's mighty far into very "high sec" space). There was a dev post over a year ago saying that the situation where insurance is paid out on CONCORD kills would be changed "soon" - make that change would help a little, though it wouldn't noticeably effect suicide DD packs. It WOULD make suicide Battleship/Battlecruisers a lot more rare, and would probably reduce suicide Cruiser attempts some. Make it so that if you have bad security status you get shot at PERIOD. No more immunity for criminals flying around in pods and the like. These two changes would noticeably improve (though not entirely CURE) the current risk vs. reward ratio on suicide ganking. Reducing concord response time further would not have much effect - most suicide gankers plan their ships around getting ONE alpha strike off and little-to-nothing else. Reduced concord response time would just change that to ALL suicide gankers planning their ship around max alpha, and might make it needfull to have 1 or 2 more DDs per gank squad at best. Good thoughts, and hopefully CCP will change the insurance system.
Bryan Xon NPC Miners League	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:34:00 - [24] Originally by: Leocadminone > CONCORD is not here to protect you. It's here to punish the wrong do'er... And they do a crap job of that. No penalty for stealing from someone's jetcan, for example, is a BLATANT line of bogus BS. The penalty is that the "victim" gains aggression rights against the "criminal". Of course, jet can mining is an exploit in and of itself (as CCP stated years ago), but we'll conveniently overlook that little detail. Quote: the "sec status" penalties are very easily evaded by criminals I'm no CCP dev, but I am a thinker. If you see someone suicide ganking and not receiving a sec status penalty, you should probably petition it. Just sayin'. Quote: (insurance does NOT pay off for criminal activities as a general rule In Real Life) EVE Online is an MMORPG. It isn't real life. Quote: Make it so that if you have bad security status you get shot at PERIOD. No more immunity for criminals flying around in pods and the like. Do you realize that the counter balance to this is making NPC pirates shoot player pods as well. Are you sure that's the kind of game mechanic you want implemented? Bottom Line: Most people agree that insurance is broken. CONCORD, however is working as intended. HTFU ----- There is no such thing as overkill. There is only "open fire", and "reload".
Mr JitaFantastic	Posted - 2010.01.12 16:16:00 - [25] Edited by: Mr JitaFantastic on 12/01/2010 16:15:57 funny how 2 thoraxs can gank a hulk in the time it takes them to fire 2 shots. LOL can concord respond that fast? I dont think so.
Ava Starfire Minmatar Nordanverdr Modr	Posted - 2010.01.12 16:40:00 - [26] You are very bad at this. Space is fun!
Jint Hikaru OffWorld Exploration Inc	Posted - 2010.01.12 16:40:00 - [27] Quote: And they do a crap job of that. No penalty for stealing from someone's jetcan, for example, is a BLATANT line of bogus BS. jet-ti-son ûverb (used with object) 1. to cast (goods) overboard in order to lighten a vessel or aircraft or to improve its stability in an emergency. 2. to throw off (something) as an obstacle or burden; discard. 3. Cards. to discard (an unwanted card or cards). So you have discarded something in space, yet you want the space police to protect it for you? ------------------------ Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer "I've got a couple of Strippers on my ship... and they just love to dance!" ------------------------
Major PewPew The Dark Horses	Posted - 2010.01.12 16:42:00 - [28] Originally by: Nika Dekaia Pretty sad try at trolling. 0/10
xXaRaXx Minmatar	Posted - 2010.01.12 19:11:00 - [29] 2/10
Cynosural Sari	Posted - 2010.01.22 13:12:00 - [30] I think we need Concord to be faster. Much faster. Like instant - and then they RR you so your ship doesn't die.
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.01.22 13:17:00 - [31] Originally by: Cynosural Sari I think we need Concord to be faster. Much faster. Like instant - and then they RR you so your ship doesn't die. They should spawn immediately when someone in highsec begins targetting someone else, start unbreakable RR on the target, and preemptively overheat all modules on the offending person's ship. Oh, and can we say 'smartbombing CONCORD'? Let's pod all those dirty griefing gankers.
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.01.22 13:36:00 - [32] Let CONCORD take care of it in their own soveregnity and have faction police intervene instead
Winterjack	Posted - 2010.01.22 14:31:00 - [33] Originally by: Zee driller As a true carebeer I demand that concord have shorter responsetime, or have a couple of ships at every belt so we peaceful miners can have our hulks in peace and quiet. Let people pew in lowsec and 0.0. But keep highsec safe! no.
Kirsi Kirjasto	Posted - 2010.01.22 15:17:00 - [34] Actually, instant arrival and RR would be a great improvement - as the real problem is people losing their ships. Or maybe a combination of all ideas: Take away insurance from gankers. Instant Concord respons + RR against smartbombs. Podding gankers. High-sec turrets target outlaw pods/ships on sight. That means the gankers can still attack people, but they actually have some risk now.
SomebodyKickedMyDog	Posted - 2010.01.22 15:19:00 - [35] Originally by: Zee driller As a true carebeer I demand that concord have shorter responsetime, or have a couple of ships at every belt so we peaceful miners can have our hulks in peace and quiet. Let people pew in lowsec and 0.0. But keep highsec safe! i more or less agree with this. the only thing i disagree about is that i think concord time should be slower.
Trakh Shardan Caldari InNova Tech Inc Blade.	Posted - 2010.01.22 15:23:00 - [36] Originally by: Kirsi Kirjasto Actually, instant arrival and RR would be a great improvement - as the real problem is people losing their ships. Or maybe a combination of all ideas: Take away insurance from gankers. Instant Concord respons + RR against smartbombs. Podding gankers. High-sec turrets target outlaw pods/ships on sight. That means the gankers can still attack people, but they actually have some risk now. if you dont whant to loos your ship you shoud use a scout its how it is and it shoud stay like this stop whining and do somehing about it ya self geetings a hi sec ganker Dont speak russian F1 F2 F3 F4 F5.......
Paknac Queltel Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.01.22 15:24:00 - [37] Originally by: Kirsi Kirjasto Actually, instant arrival and RR would be a great improvement - as the real problem is people losing their ships. Or maybe a combination of all ideas: Take away insurance from gankers. Instant Concord respons + RR against smartbombs. Podding gankers. High-sec turrets target outlaw pods/ships on sight. That means the gankers can still attack people, but they actually have some risk now. As this thread goes on, I'm having more and more doubts of my ability to detect sarcasm. I've not detected any, so I'll reply seriously: No.
Herr Wilkus	Posted - 2010.01.22 16:53:00 - [38] Talk about some bogus 'solutions' to a non-existant problem. Rampant carebear mentality on display for all to see here.

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